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Wow...it's come to this...in order to fight back, I'm going to have to burn my driver's license.
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05.19.05 - 5:31 pm | #
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I.M.,
WTF does a dead guy need with a driver's license anyway?
Tom
Thomas L. Knapp |
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05.19.05 - 8:19 pm | #
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Hey, don't start that rhetoric now! "What does anyone really need an assault rifle for?" 
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05.19.05 - 10:06 pm | #
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Nobody needs that many drivers licenses that can identify you that fast (as any of several assorted identities)!
Look at them, with their all-plastic and silicon chip construction, for slipping through metal detectors with one of them concealed!
Look at their menacingly streamlined design, perfect for jimmying locks!
Figures from the National Transportation Safety Board indicate motorists armed with drivers licenses as the leading culprits in highway fatalities! It's a public health crisis -- a veritable epidemic I tell you!
Clearly, federal action is required.
I hope you all join me in calling for drivers-license-licensing.
Do it for the children.
Brad Spangler |
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For those who don't advocate violating the law (although Jefferson's quote about the law and the tyrant's will comes to mind), there is a legal means of resistance to the police state:
Get serious about a free state project (NH has a head start, but WY or MT might work better for this) and start work immediately toward abolishing that state's DMV. Licensed drivers are no safer than unlicensed ones, and the DMV is high on the list of despised agencies. Then start working on a gold-backed state or private currency, so you won't end up using traceable credit cards, Internet commodity accounts, or future Federal Reserve Notes with RFID tags.
Even if the free state effort doesn't fully succeed, just getting several thousand like minded people in the same geographic area would facilitate a lot of things.
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Tom, I appreciate your plug for the Real ID Rebellion. We intend to get more focused on active rebellion, while continuing the agit-prop. It's been slower getting started than I'd like.
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Sunni,
Actually, on re-reading the piece, the plug for Real ID Rebellion almost looks like an unintentional slap. I didn't mean it that way. Y'all are doing an important job, and doing it well. I look forward to the "activist" phase, and please let me know how I can help!
Regards,
Tom
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Hey, Tom, I've linked to your post from the Real ID Rebellion blog.
Can you comment more on the pre-loaded debit cards? I'm completely unfamiliar with how/where I would go about getting one.
Thank you.
Kirsten |
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05.20.05 - 9:31 pm | #
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Kristen,
I don't know much about the cards -- never had one myself before. Here's what I do know:
1) If you want an anonymous card, you're going to have to get it offshore -- the US has outlawed the issuance of anonymous cards apparently. There are usually some pretty high fees associated with offshore anonymous cards.
2) You can buy prepaid, reloadable debit cards from a number of companies. Most of them are Mastercard or Visa logoed and compatible with the major ATM systems. You just use them like an ATM/debit card up to the amount of money you've pre-loaded. You can reload them in various ways (I've seen Western Union options, wire transfer, mail a check, over the Internet from a credit card or PayPal account, etc.).
Search for "anonymous debit card," "prepaid debit card" and "reloadable debit card" on Google and you should find all the info you want.
Regards,
Tom
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05.20.05 - 11:59 pm | #
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http://www.myicis.com/
They offer pre-loaded debit cards and digital money orders that you can print from your computer or e-mail to others. These will clear in a regular bank, but are not generated by a bank.
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One of my favorite quotes comes from a libertarian blog, but I forgot who said it, unfortunately:
"If you try to look everywhere, you can see nothing."
It was said in reference to the TIA project, but it applies equally well to "Real ID".
The attempt to actually do anything with Real ID will create a miasma of data overload for our dark masters. And of course, there will be an increase in interest in cryptography, forgery, identity reconstruction, etc.
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You might consider civil disobedience as a method for fighting Real ID. We've set up an initial encounter. My husband will be getting arrested for refusing to show ID at the airport while insisting on boarding his plane. The idea is that it forces the government to show themselves for what they truly are: a unit of force and brutality only. I suggest seeing the movie Gandhi for inspiration. Check out what we're doing on http://nhfree.com.
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Anonymous internet banking, including money orders and debit cards: http://www.alfii.com/
Also takes Liberty Dollars
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Here's a site that I just came across a few days ago that might help people who want to rid themselves of drivers licenses, etc: http://www.livetaxfree.com/howto2.htm
I have no idea how effective the procedures are.
Personally, I haven't used a driver's license in about 8 years now and there is no way that I acquire anything that resembles one. Guess I'm lucky I haven't gotten stopped. My defense/reasoning is that: 1.There exists no physical proof that one human has authority over another. 2.There is no proof that a human or group of humans owns or claims to own the roads so they're not private property and there is no trespass. 3.Insurance is a personal choice because I know that activities of life are a risk and that no human besides me is liable for any damages that I might incur.
As for financial stuff, I use a lot of postal m.o.s and if I need to use a bank (not very often)I pay someone I trust to take care of it through their account.
It may not be as covenient but it can be done and the feeling of freedom seems to be worth it.
I think that if enough people were to put up with the short term inconveniences of ridding the statists from their life it might be worth it in the long term.
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