LOL. We are now the new Reform Party, what with our rather amorphous official stance, we have neocon Republicans, CPers and now a Natural Law/Green all either seeking the LP nomination, or possibly seeking it.
Can we get her on the LNC first?
This is too funny.
I welcome her as much as I welcome Bob Barr, if not more ...
THough Susan (and Tim) have shown little awareness of free market economics, they have been consistent CIVIL libertarians, on both domestic and foreign policy, pretty much all the way (with the possible exception of gun rights, though neither has been an on-record gun grabber that I know of).
In my mind, if Bob Barr can do a 180 on civil liberties, and become a privacy advocate as well ... Why not Susan?
Susan Sarandon...?
Hmm...isn't that something you wrap food in???
Oh! No! That's Saran Wrap!!!!
In the words of the sadly mortal Gilda Radner, never mind.
---The Bikemessenger
Why not just drop all the pretenses and run Streisand? Let's ask Ms. Sarandon where she stands on the 2nd Amendment. How about foreign aid and intervention?
I think paulie's onto something. Stick a fork in the LP if this is what it's coming to.
Sarandon/Barr in 2008!
Well, maybe we can give her a chance and prove her worth. I've read some articles that there are these award winning actors and actresses in other Asian countries turned into good politicians. Maybe Susan might be like them.
How does she stand on initiation of force? I really don't care how someone feels about guns, as long as they don't try to regulate mine.
I will accept tolerance in place of activism in a lot of areas.
I'm sure I won't agree with a lot of her views, but as long as her socialism is voluntary instead of mandatory, I'm willing to listen.
Following the footsteps eh of Mr. Arnold, this I gotta see.
Rumor has the LP is getting attention.
It would be neat if someone of that caliber stepped up, maybe Kurt Russell, and ran. But I'll probably live to see elephants fly first.
MHW
Susan Sarandon???
I'm sorry but I would much rather cut off my own foot then support(voice or vote) her or any Hollywood type. The benefit of being a hollywood type is that your actually paid to fool people into thinking your something your not.
Based on everything I ever heard this woman say regarding politics puts her squarely in the LBJ/GWB wing of the socialist democratic party.
Don't want it don't need it and can't afford it.
I bet there's something to this.
Think about this for a second. Think below the surface. Perhaps this is a good sign for the Libertarian Party.
It says to me that Susan Sarandon realizes that the Greens and other Leftist Third Parties are useless, yet the Libertarian Party holds out some promise and has some credibility.
Don't think she'll ultimately go for it, and certainly the LPers would never accept her. But, IMHO, it does show that the LP is leaps and bounds above other third parties.
That's if this is all true of course, and not just pure speculative rumor.
Eric,
Gotta hand it to you -- I expected that despite your "nominate a celebrity, any celebrity, no matter what they think, and no matter if they're even really a celebrity" rhetoric, you'd blow your stack at the notion of a Sarandon/Robbins or Sarandon/Penn ticket.
Matter of fact, that was the first thing that came to ny mind when I came upon the rumor:
"Dondero is going to melt the hell down when he finds out that his fake celebrity candidate may be upstaged by a real celebrity candidate, especially since Susan Sarandon isn't that much more libertarian than Wayne Root."
I do agree with you on one thing: The LP would be unlikely to nominated Sarandon if she runs. Not as unlikely as a Wayne Root nomination or hell getting a National Hockey League franchise, but unlikely.
Tom Knapp
But Tom, I thought hell already has a team:
http://www.newjerseydevils.com/n...m/njd/
index.php
---The Bikemessenger
Tom isn't there a writer from your neck of the woods named Dooling who has a Libertarian streak in him who is now writing movie scripts in Hollywood? Is this your source of the rumor?
Michael,
Doesn't ring any bells. I'm not going to name my source, but it's nobody named "Dooling" or anything like that. I only have four things to say about my source:
1) She is in Hollywood.
2) She works in the media/entertainment industries.
3) HShe is a libertarian, both small- and large-L.
4) She did not place an especially high reliability/confidence rating on the rumor.
Emphasis on number four. I thought it was worth floating to see if it might draw out some real info.
I'm willing/able to do that because I don't have any reputation or working relationships in Hollywood that I'm worried about preserving. I also don't particularly care whether anyone believes the rumor, or believes me, or not.
My source, on the other hand, might have something to lose by being connected to the rumor, regardless of whether it turns out to be true or false. If it's true, then she is talking out of school about some major celebrities who might not want their intentions publicly known just yet. If it's false, they might be irritated at the suggestion even being made.
Matter of fact, perhaps I shouldn't even have identified the source by gender, but it's too late to correct that now. Or maybe doing so was mis-direction on my part 
Regards,
Tom
Knappster, you are an international man of mystery and intrigue.
I was going to dig up some dirt on her in regard to Clinton's butchery, but it looks as though she opposed the Kosovo war.
Anthony,
I'm pretty sure that Sarandon is anti-war in general, not just against Republican wars.
Of course, while being anti-war may be necessary to the definition of "libertarian," it's not necessarily sufficient to that definition.
(Here's where Eric comes in, rattles off a list of pro-aggression statist hacks, demands that they be recognized as "libertarians," and claims to have proven that it's possible to be a pro-aggression statist and a "libertarian" at the same time. Yawn.)
Regards,
Tom Knapp
You mean statist hacks like Thomas Jefferson? (shores of Tripoli...)
Come to think of it, Murray Rothbard had some nice things to say about that crusty warmonger Andrew Jackson.
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Just goes too show you, Jefferson and Rothbard had their weak points. No one is perfect.
On Sarandon:
I'm an ex-Rocky Horror Picture Show junkie. It was shown in my college town of Newark, Delaware every Saturday night when I was a teenager. Plus, her appearances on Bull Durham, and as the Lesbian Vamp with Bowie were spectacular.
On Sexual issues, I'm with her 110%. Sarandon is a hardcore Pro-Choicer.
But on foreign policy and economics, she's atrocious.
Her Acting makes up for some of that atrociousness, so on the whole, I'd give her a C-.
Certainly she'd be better than Phillies or Kubby. Neither of whom are celebrities. And neither of them are really libertarians either. Both admittedly support Islamo-Fascism. Neither ever talks about economic liberties and free entperise, so I'm suspicious on their views on economic liberties, as well.
Saradon: Celebrity. Great on Sexual Freedom, sucks on economics, atrocious on foreign policy.
Phillies & Kubby: Non-Celebrities. Unknown on economic liberties, halfway decent on civil liberties, atrocious on foreign policy.
Given all that, I'd almost support Sarandon over Kubby and Phillies.
Tom I need to write to you and probably Paul regarding Kubby's upcoming visit to Bend, OR.
Could you email me at michael.h.wilsonATatt.net?
And I'll get back to you ASAP.
Thanks,
MHW
Phillies on Economic Issues
http://phillies2008.com/condemn_kelo
http://phillies2008.com/
phillies...and_the_deficit
http://phillies2008.com/
phillies...s_on_free_trade
http://phillies2008.com/
phillies..._on_high_prices
http://phillies2008.com/
phillies...property_rights
Kubby on Economic Issues
http://www.kubby2008.com/node/20
My search also failed to reveal either
candidate supporting Islamo-Fascism.
I would think an Islamic fascist would not hold their positions on civil liberties issues either.
Also, wouldn't an Islamic Fascist
government support an aggressive
foreign policy and high military spending so they could spread Islamic
Fascism to even more countries?
Maybe Eric Dondero has stumbled
across some information I failed to find that Phillies and Kubby are secretly followers of Usama Bin Laden?
Their publically published platforms
don't seem to support that statement.
Kubby does kind of look like Chemical
Ali without the moustache, I have to admit. Very clever, but he's not fooling me!
Phillies and Kubby both participated in a debate last night which you can listen
to and hear their views on a wide variety of issues, along with Gene Chapman and Dave Hollist.
http://kubby2008.com/node/27
Question: How does anyone know her economic viewpoints?
Don't flatter yourself... The Libertarian Party may be the largest and most well-organized national third party, but the Greens are certainly in the same league. There has to be a reason she is considering LP over GP, if the rumor is true, and the only reason would have to be the overtly Marxist tendencies of those eco-thugs at the GP.
Does anyone have her on record on economic issues, or is it all assumption? Also, people can change their minds and "see the light." What else could be the reason for choosing LP over GP?
"Phillies or Kubby...Both admittedly support Islamo-Fascism..."
Ah, Eric, are you really so dependent on that silly term?
"Islamo-Fascism" has no place in any serious discussion.
Not that I take this all that seriously, as you may have noticed from my earlier facetiousness.
But it's a gallows humor I bring; gentlemen, your discussion is moot. There will not be a presidential election in '08.
Rather, we will have martial law, formal "emergency" suspension of the Constitution (heck, it's "just a piece of paper")[we already have it's suspension in practice, as we all well know]. And we will "live" in Chertoff's "Homes for the Mentally Independent" where we will be detained until the "end" of the "war" on terror. Which conveniently, cannot possibly "end" while the likes of we "enemy combatants" breaths.
For those who miss the subtlety, we do not here excercise our "unalienable" right of free expression, by way of Knappster's hospitality, but rather, we excercise license by default,(i.e., our masters in Washington just haven't gotten around to shutting us up).
Eric, can you name a SINGLE person (I don't count) who fits your definition of an "Islamo-Pork Sausage"? I didn't think so.
Yet you still expect to scare us into submission with the term.
Can you explain to us precisely how your "Islamo-whatever" manages to meld, to integrate, any form of Islamic theology with the political/economic tenets of Bismark or Mussolini?
No, of course not; that's outside the pathetic, simplistic paradigm in which you dwell, and into which you would draw us.
---The Bikemessenger
The Blogs are now reporting that the Utah shooter was a Muslim.
Who would have ever guessed?
It is now confirmed. The Utah shooter was indeed a Muslim. Various news outlets are reporting this fact, though notably buried paragraphs down in their story.
Anyone remember Columbine? For how many weeks were we all subjected to news stories on that massacre on CNN, Fox News, the major Networks?
Now compare that to this latest shotting.
A half a day story at most.
*sigh* Need we rehearse her biggest anti-libertarian-leaning "credential", and why?
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