Gravatar You have tried to warn the LP. Sadly 50% + 1 delegate may truly fall for this mistake. He waits until less than two weeks before the nat.convention. Why? If you aren't an ass you should know why. He's hiding something from the LP people...


Gravatar This announcement by Barr Barr was my in the sand. Fuck it all, and fuck the LP if it nominates this clown. I'm signing on board with Kubby.


Gravatar So this is why he gets all huffy when anyone asks anything about his views (not exactly a good thing when one is a presidential candidate). Barr is truly despicable and should crawl back to the Republican Party where he belongs--thesame goes for WARmonger.

After all, "only a fool" believes libertarian solutions can work.


Gravatar How exactly do you achieve victory in Iraq, anyways? By conventional military standards, we had won the war in Iraq when Bush claimed as much - the controlling government was toppled, and the country was managed by a new government put into place by international interests, along with the desired national banking system, etc.

Some people seem to think that victory means an end to hostilities, but that's just not going to happen any more than we're going to 100% end crime here at home. It's a police matter, one of the enforcement of laws. Some people won't follow the law. They don't here in the US, and they don't in Iraq. Granted, violence is more widespread and extreme in Iraq than it is in the US. This is largely because the nature of life in Iraq today is that of a police state. A military police state in the US with troops on street corners and patrols including tanks may garner a similar reaction here at home - and it's almost certain it would if that military presence were foreign.


Gravatar Barr is truly despicable and should crawl back to the Republican Party where he belongs

Easy now. Barr has come around on a lot of issues. I definitely wouldn't support him for the nomination (and would be unhappy if he won it) and I agree that his Iraq position makes no sense, but I think he still fits within the bounds of the LP.


Gravatar ...Mr. Barr said he still opposes abortion and the legalization or decriminalization of drugs, just as he did as a federal prosecutor during the Reagan administration and as a Republican in the U.S. House.

Some Libertarians hold the opposite view...

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Article published May 13, 2008
Barr to woo Libertarian base for funds


Gravatar bbartlog,

What issues has Barr "come around" on? He's a hard-core drug warrior, a warmonger (sanctions against Iran, stay in Iraq, fight "narco-terrorists" abroad, etc), a frequent donor to neocon candidates in the GOP, and a coward who refuses to disown his extremely anti-libertarian past. The LP did the right thing by working to get this right-wing maniac out of office. That was back before they chose to dumb down the platform, of course.


Gravatar Well, there goes the final nail in the coffin that holds what little chance Barr had of getting my support.


Gravatar The LP is done now. If it is to be restored, it will obviously have to be Ron Paul supporters who do it.

Libertarian refuges are being destroyed and compromised one by one. Cato, Reason, the LP, the list goes on.

Worse, we tend to eat our young. We're always bitching about each other and I do it too.

The anarchists at Strike -the -Root don't want to hear about the constitution because they think it's irrelevant. So, they don't want to know about the pioneering work done on the tax code by Peter Eric Hendrickson. Neither do the Austrians, who have some Ostrowski fellow sniping at Hendrickson.

Hendrickson is on to something very very big, something that could strike a huge blow for freedom if more of us libertarians would dig in and investigate the matter.

Also, in a similar vein, Nelson Hultberg and Antal Fekete can't get the Rockwell contingent to listen to them on economics and monetary policy either, and it's that damn NOT INVENTED HERE syndrome again.

If Von Mises and Rothbard didn't come up with it, or didn't like it - then it is bad and must be shunned. I think that we need to really open and intensify the debate on economics and monetary policy so that we will be ready if/when the current statist system collapses.

If a 100% gold dollar that Rothbard advocated has flaws, we need to dope them out now, not later, when we may be looked to for solutions by a reeling public.

And then there's the whole abortion debate...

I dunno, I'm not religious at all, but I'm starting to think that statism itself is almost like a living evil entity that constantly seeks to divide its enemies and sow discord among them.

As I say, I'm just starting to think it.




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