I understand and agree but the visual the title conjurs up is a lunch loser.
pig/dog | 04.10.08 - 11:17 am | #

Kermit, calm down lest you make a tinkle in yer little lace panties.
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 11:26 am | #

He's right though. Ed. Who the hell is Elton to be sticking his nose in our business. We're mysogenists? When that chunky little limey starts calling out islam on it's mysogeny that results in mutilation and murder, he may gain some credibility and earn an ear. Otherwise he can kiss Kermits ass!
pig/dog | 04.10.08 - 11:53 am | #

actually, while Elton is NOT an American Citizen, he does own a home in the Atlanta area.

But much like the times where Bono feels the need to chime in on American politics, my selective hearing kicked in when Elton went on a rant...in general, it is a good idea...
Jim W | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 11:59 am | #

Maxx, as a personal matter, I am equally disinterested in Elton John's politics and his music.

Free speech runs like a river in America, and we all swim through it, retaining some and letting the rest go
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 12:06 pm | #

That doesn't mean his bullshit cannot and should not be pointed out.
He called us a mysogenistic society. Perhaps he should go to Iran or Paki and see what mysogeny is all about.
Of course they'd hang him for being gay but that's a whole nother post.
He's entitled to his opinion I suppose but we're entitled to point out the flaw in his thinking.
pig/dog | 04.10.08 - 12:16 pm | #

"He called us a mysogenistic society. Perhaps he should go to Iran or Paki and see what mysogeny is all about."

So as long as Paki or Iran or somebody is worse than us, we should get a pass?

I don't think so.
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 12:23 pm | #

The point is this sleaze both hates America and supports Hillary! Clinton.
Kermit | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 12:25 pm | #

Agreed, Kermit. Which is funny, since he OWNS PROPERTY here. and frequently accepts money for playing here. Funny how his hatred goes only so far....
Jim W | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 12:26 pm | #

And his music sucks. I cannot name ONE song of his that I like.
Jim W | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 12:27 pm | #

"The point is this sleaze both hates America and supports Hillary! Clinton."

Kermit, I think you're hysterical.

Other posters also have the bad habit of taking a small specific criticism and generalizing it into overall disapproval.
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 12:28 pm | #

So as long as Paki or Iran or somebody is worse than us, we should get a pass?

I don't think so.


conversely, Ed, some posters have the bad habit of taking a small specific criticism of America and generalizing it into fact...
Jim W | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 12:33 pm | #

Read the update, Ed. Elton John is pond scum.
Kermit | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 12:36 pm | #

Jim, Mr John said he's, "...amazed by the misogynistic attitudes of some people in this country,"

Kermit transformed that into Elton John hates America. That's not justified.

You wrote, "...some posters have the bad habit of taking a small specific criticism of America and generalizing it into fact..."

You talkin' about me?
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 12:36 pm | #

Ed
Women are downtrodden beasts of labor here?
Goddam America!
pig/dog | 04.10.08 - 12:46 pm | #

"Women are downtrodden beasts of labor here?"

Maxx, who said they are?
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 12:48 pm | #

Elton certainly intimates so.
John, a knighted British subject, said that gender discrimination is behind Clinton's problems in the polls as he addressed 5,000 Clinton supporters
pig/dog | 04.10.08 - 1:05 pm | #

Yes, Ed, I am. Your comment suggesting that we shouldn't "get a pass" says all I need to know. You appear to find fact in what Sir Reginald Dwight said about this great country... It is this kind of hero worship that enables Sir REggie and Bono and others to keep spouting off. Just because Sir Reggie says it doesn't necessarily make it fucking so.

it is the same line of thinking that suggests that we're all racists and owe apologies to Indians, blacks, etc because ancestors dating back hundreds of years committed terrible acts. HOGWASH.
Jim W | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 1:13 pm | #

Jim wrote, "You appear to find fact in what Sir Reginald Dwight said about this great country.."

John's comment was, "I never cease to be amazed by the misogynistic attitudes of some people in this country,"

Jim, you're right, except he didn't say it about the country. He said it about "some people."

There's millions of us. Some Americans hate women. If EJ wants to be amazed, so what? His comment doesn't say that much. I don't think it's a big deal at all. That's what I told Kermit to start with.
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 2:08 pm | #

Context is pretty important, isn't it Ed? If I went up on Mrs. Clinton's stage ande said "Some black folk are really stupid because they support an unqualified junior senator for President because he's a Negro" how would that sound?
Kermit | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 2:35 pm | #

Kermit, that would sound equally bad just about everywhere.
Ed Salden | 04.10.08 - 2:42 pm | #

Personally, I find it hilarious that Elton John is accusing the rest of us of not liking women. :^)

(cheap shot; does this explain why he likes Sen. Clinton?)
Bike Bubba | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 2:43 pm | #

Completely off topic, yet still hilarious..

Harley Davidson decides to have a celebration of it's 100th year of operation.

They get the entire city of Milwaukee on board, streets closed, cops restrained, the works.

They advertise a secret performer as the headliner of the big days concert festivities. Rumors fly..."it the stones"..."the Boss"...."what's left of the beatles".

Scalpers are asking for, and getting $500 for tickets that the dealerships were handing out free months before.

100,000 bikers assemble in front of an elaborate stage where "kid rock" gets things warmed up.

The lights go up.

and out walks prances............

Elton fucking John in a sailor suit.

Theories in fluid dynamics are put to the test as 99,000 bikers (theres one in every bunch)try to fit through one gate at one time.

The next day, the Milwaukee newspaper has, as it's headline "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??"

Heh, welcome to America Elton. Fuck you and how are the kids?
Swiftee | 04.10.08 - 2:50 pm | #

Kids? I don't think he reproduced (thank God).
Kermit | Homepage | 04.10.08 - 3:19 pm | #

Elton John's a prick who wrote a couple of good tunes.

He, like a number of Anglo Left-Leaners, say the most virulent things about Thatcher and other conservatives but should you say something a little critical about their mob... then they will say you are hatefilled and irrational.

He's a fuming, foot-stomping, tantrum-throwing, spoiled effing brat who cries wolf... not to mention that he cries "hate", too.
Badda | Homepage | 04.11.08 - 4:03 pm | #