I assume it will be well stocked with booze and smoke...having a well is great, but if you got it, they know about it (permits..it's how big brother keeps track of anything you build)and if they know about it, they can poison it. Don't rely on it alone and bottle plenty of water to keep in storage...Man cannot live on beer alone.
Yeah, but have you given it a name?
Maybe "Nate's Fortess of Solitude" or "The Nate and Julie Gang's Hideout".
Shane:
Sacrilege!! Who says man cannot live on beer alone?
Man can absolutely live on beer alone... sadly, DrWho cannot.
And he better not let Pres. Frog hear that or there will definitely be trouble.....
What tune does the door bell play? Edvard Grieg's 'In the Hall of the Mountain King'?
you need a moat and a tower you can dump boiling oil on folks...just for fun
So what are you up to that the government is going to care so much about?
Come to think about it, what were the wackos in Waco, the family at Ruby Ridge, and the folks at Klamath Falls up to?
Yes, I know what they were up to, it was a rhetorical question.
Good for you Nate, but I might add that Jeb also, cannot live by beer alone! I have to admit that I'm a bit jealous even though I don't want to be.
Good luck to ya Nate. May you find and fortify your Gondolin, o man who would be Turgon. Just make sure that Jeb turns out to be a Tuor and not a Maeglin, lest thy hidden halls be betrayed.
(For those without a Tolkien education, the names thrown about are from the Silmarillion)
I say name it by one of those chemical compounds that anesthetists use. That way you can use it as a code word to "get outta Dodge!" (Anyone in on it will be at the fortress ASAP.)
I'll have to settle for the poor man's version of a fortress - the ability to disappear, having several locations to stay where no one would think to look.
On top of everything else... now I find that spacebunny appreciates the Mountain Fortress...
Is it considered a tryst if it's with one of your own harem girls?
Oh.. and as for the Name...
I refer to it as...
Angband
Do you prefer being referred to as Melkor the Magnificent then Nate? Sounds better than Morgoth....
Right now there's some government agent thinking "Note to self: Nate's fortress has a hidden exit, most likely near a river or lake."
Secret mountain fortresses are overrated. I'm not jealous or anything.
"There should also be a means of escape. Now this is tricky... because any way you can get out, they can get in."
Chris wants us to live in a labyrinth - maybe that would work for your Mountain Fortress, too. Because, let's face it, most government workers are not that smart. They'd probably all get lost in it and starve.
(As for me, I'm not sure how "pretty" a labyrinth we'll be, so we're still in the talking stages.)
Hey Nate, don't put your mountain fortress near that big facility under that mountain in West Virginia that has endless rows of filing cabinets, containing a file on each and every U.S. citizen, including tissue samples. I saw it on X-Files...Scully found her file and everything, right before she was surrounded by greys...
oh, never mind...
But it's probably called the "Robert C. Byrd Big Evil Underground Storage Facility"
Nate,
My memory's a bit fuzzy, but is Angband a reference to Lord of the Rings?
Does anyone remember "Snug Harbour"?
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Angband, if I recall correctly, is Morgoth's stronghold on Middle Earth in the Silmarillion..he is the one Valar who rebelled - became a 'Satan' figure. Sauron was one of the Maiar (I might not recall correctly here) and became evil and twisted through Morgoth..
the Silmarillion is an awesome read - good to read it many times over. It has many subplots under the main plot revolving around the Silmarils.
It is not really a LOTR reference, the Silmarillion is set in the same world, I think about an age or two before the LOTR trilogy occurred. It starts with the creation of the Universe and ends with the tale of the Numenoreans (Aragorn is a direct descendent of them and actually would be the legal heir of some of the elven realms too including Doriath - not just Gondor..but then, Doriath didn't exist anymore in LOTR)..
It still revolves around the gems though. The part with the Numenoreans is more like an epilogue. Numenor was destroyed by 'God' (Eru, Illuvatar - 'All-Father') because they became allied with the Dark Lord through the corrupting influence of Sauron. They stopped worshipping the true God and turned to even sacrificing people to the 'Dark Lord'..so Eru destroyed the entire civilization - wiped them out except for those who remained Faithful of which Aragorn is a direct descendant. Aragorn would also be the heir of Doriath if it still existed in LOTR.
I don't know whether this is true but I *read* somewhere that Tolkien meant for Sauron to have in possession a ring of power when he corrupted the Numenoreans...
it's been a while since I read these details, so if I got a few little parts wrong, forgive me.
..sorry, 'true God' should have been in quotes..I loved the story of the Numenoreans.
Beren and Luthien is also a favourite and so is the story about Turin Turambar.
I only read the Silmarillion once and it was a bit much to take in. I suppose I'll have to read it again to compete with y'all.
Nerds :p
lol@FA
...once you get used to the 'language' that Tolkien is speaking in, in the Silmarrillion..it is smooth sailing. He has a way of 'telling' this story which I think is beautiful, myself.
He originally wrote some of it in poetic verse and incorporated it into the Silmarillion. Damn, I researched this guy (and CS Lewis)..
I *think* that is true..my memory is getting fuzzy!!!
Sounds about right, Sarah... I did a research paper on the Silmarillion in high school, but I only read it through once and enough to do the paper. I liked it. I tried to read some of the other stuff that Tolkien wrote, and his son Christopher assembled and edited after his death, but there was just so much of it that I couldn't get into it.
Nerds...say it loud, say it proud!
Nate, if you've got a fair sized chunk of cash to drop on your fortress, why not go with a pre-existing facility built to withstand the worst that Uncle Joe could throw at us. Check out www.misslebases.com, there are a number of decommissioned Atlas IIC,D,and F sites available for sale around the country, and if you've got a whole lot of money to spend I think there may even be a couple of Titan II sites on the market. Those bases are unbelievable, we're talking 400,000 square feet of Dr. Evil underground layer fully furnished with 40,000HP diesel power generators, hardened against a near miss from a 20-megaton nuclear device, and outfitted with attractive crome doomsday control dome.
"Burning is the favorite option of the government."
As long as your government doesn't turn completely Hillary Clinton type evil, you should be okay, cause I know that if they wanted to, they could wipe any mutha off the face of the earth - they've been developing mini-nuke bunker busters (for Kim Jong-Il), and if they persisted they could mess up any fortress real bad.
@NightDog
You made me laugh aloud with that comment. I hope I didn't wake up my parnets...
@Nate
I always thought that a hermit was better off than someone in a bomb shelter. The way I see it, if the government knows where you are, you're already dead. But then again, you have women and children to look after.
This stuff is freaking sweet. I would pay money to help someone build a fort like this. This is one of my goals in life, to a build a fort like this.
Government satellite technology now is amazing. They could track you if they really wanted to. All they have to do is identify your fortress and they can jump to it whenever. If they label you a threat, hope you have some wooded mountains areas to hide in.
Matt...
Its about economics. It's about making it cost to much in time, lives, and money to come get you. The government has it's hands tied. They cant attack you with tanks and missiles. If they do they lose the PR war.
They're biggest guns are nullified. I'm 99.999998 percent sure I'll never have to use any of the plans I have... but rest assured... if I did.. you'd ALL know about it, and by the time I was done, there would be pictures of ATF agents in pink teddies all over the internet.
Hey Nate, do you think that someday your 'fortress' might be one of those underground hideaways..I mean, imagine, you could have the fortress itself, and then networks of tunnels, not only that, but if you had a good forest covering that surrounds you for many, many miles - and an alternate place to go (perhaps you already described it and I forgot - I'm a lazy arse, sue me)...it would make it that much more difficult. Contingency plans..and would you accept stragglers who are likewise trying to escape from whatever malevolent force out there?
You could also have a hydroponics lab in your fortress..although it is expensive to start off with if my info is correct.
Sarah,
The purpose of the Mountain Fortress, or Angband, specifically, is to provide security. It will be left to our children and our grandchildren... and one day.. when TSHTF, it will serve many.
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