that was from my blog, thanks. you just hate that there are people out there who don't subscribe to your perception of the world.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me. I have a problem with ignorance. I have a problem with people who form thier world view based on farcicle ideals they hold, despite obvious conflict with observable reality.
Marx, Keynes, and your friend L all fit into that catagory.
whatever man. it's called the world. you are one of the few people i know that think like you do. maybe the others that subscribe to your blog do, but it's a limited number compaired to the people i know. now, as a friend, i respect your ideas and thoughts, even though i agree with only about half of them. it makes life fun. you can't take yourself so seriously.
What I love about these remarks is how utterly ignorant the people making them are.
Nate’s choice of occupation should dispel the whole stereotypical prejudice rant.
A feminist trying to think, isn’t that cute.
Nate, I just want to know in all of your posts, where the hell did you put women down?
Astro,
He did that whenever he challenged a feminazi presupposition.
The feminazi are right because they feel they are right, disagreement with any aspect of their feelings is the same as torture.
Although I think its torture to them because rational thought makes their brain hurt so much compared to mindlessly accepting emotion over truth.
I've missed ya Res
“you are one of the few people i know that think like you do… but it's a limited number compaired to the people i know.”
Don’t get out much do you? When you do it must be to hang around other PS brainwashed, inarticulate, mousy, dullards easily confounded by reality.
Accepting your position that you are in fact in the majority, doesn’t disprove Nate’s position, it only adds creditability to his argument.
Compare societies that historically practiced Nate’s values against modern America. I know which social context I’d rather live in.
Nate,
I've been swamped man.
I should be finishing a report now, but I needed a break.
Hey did you see EZP is back at Vox's?
We need to get him over here.
Kind of a Gay Eye for the Red Neck Guy, thing.
women are confounded by machines
"If women ran the world, the world would last until the oil needed changing" - Fred
i would LOVE to live a life where i just sit in the corner with my mouth shut,
That's be tough, I bet. Oh, and I'd love to live in a world where people could hold hands and sing kum-by-yah and everyone knew punctuation and grammer!!
try to look as pretty as i can
HA! *You* try to look pretty? I bet that'd be tougher than keeping yer yap shut!
such stuff perpetuates a world of stereotype, illusion, and false reality.
Yeah, not like the stereotype of the "sensitive man" or "strong women who raises two kids and has a full-time job", or the illusion that women are just as good in combat as men, or the false reality that men need to cry sometimes. Bah, dang 1k limit! I'm just getting warmed up!
glad you can make judgements on someone you don't know. nice people you hang with, Nate.
I don't see judgements on people here, just judgements on positions... And that's not only fair game, it's the point!
"gee...i would LOVE to live a life where i just sit in the corner with my mouth shut, try to look as pretty as i can, and wait for the almighty male figure to tell me what i ought to think and do. i'd hate for him to admit that he is - in fact - human. nope...i'd rather him pretend to be a superhero. i like lies."
I bet most women would LOVE a guy who pretended to be a superhero. Without the cape of course. The Alan Alda types don't get the chicks. The superhero types do. Not that one should be a brute. But a good natured brute has made many a gal's heart go a-flutter.
And Nate (though I don't always agree with him on many issues) does not fit into any stereotype.
An Alpha Male stay at home dad. Now that's a new one.
oh, i'm cool with Nate people. we go back farther than most of you. but i also know L, and she's not a feminist, just strong willed, and of a different mindset. when we are quick to blast on people we don't know because of a quick statment said in the passion of typing, then our human nature really jumps out, doesn't it?
God loves all of us, even the feminists and postmoderns. would be nice if we could discuss without the arrogance. maybe i live in dreamland, though.
Yep, amen, shawn.
Shawn,
What is the purpose of a blog? For me it is to present ideas and then to discuss them. Notice that I used the word "ideas"? I've only seen one, at most two statements here that could be interpreted as a personal attack and not a criticism of an idea. Bill gets the happy distinction of being the guilty party in this. Everything else looks like criticism of a set of ideas. Please, refute the criticism, don't allege premature judgement. Examine the ideas and do it with some intellectual rigor. Come back here in a few weeks after you've read everything most of the posters on this or Vox's blog have read. I'm sure most any of us would be more than happy to supply a reading list. Is that too much to ask? Because if it is too much to ask then I'm not so sure anybody here will listen to what you have to say.
being a strong-willed woman myself, i can say it can easily be a shortcoming. L misunderstood nate, as most do who don't know how to look beyond his arrogance...hehe.
society is not producing real men. this is why i'm still single. which is why i'm animate against wussy men because it angers me to still be single when i know i'm gonna be damn good wife! but...i've learned to smile in the meanwhile.
Bill gets the happy distinction of being the guilty party in this.
Er, Hang on a second there chief, L threw the first punch. If she don't wanna fight, then don't start one.
and, of course, i may be out of place on this blog. Nate's one of my buds, and i like to hear what he has to say. i'm much more about culture and faith, music and movies. not so much about the political thing. and i know where nate is coming from, and i take it with the grain of salt that he personally gave to me.
i personally have no interest to be political and argue. my interest is in the lighter side of life, and where Christ and culture meet. i hear there are some Christ followers who subscribe to this blog, so that interests me. but bashing on people that you don't know or have never talked to just seems a little childish to me.
take it for what it's worth.
shawn, so did you get back in time to catch the Alias finale or not?
Lots of stuff happened in that ep...
So shawn, does L know Nate?
this topic isn't about politics. it's about culture, as you say you like to discuss. i'd dare say it's also about christianity for a christian at least. this topic affects people in our culture. and it should be affecting more people in christianity.
oh wow. That Alias episode was rockin. the rumor is that they won't be starting new episodes until next spring. sad.
L and Nate don't know each other. she goes to church with me and is a really nice person. like Joy said, they probably just don't get each other after quick readings of each other's thoughts. and i'm cool with that.
Yeah, they won't start Alias season 4 until January, then they can show all 22 episodes together, with no hiatus gaps or repeats.
You know what's weird? There were some pictures of Jennifer Garner from when she was in middle school and high school. She looked just like Mrs. Astro did at the same age! Mrs. Astro doesn't look like her now, but then again she's not a movie/TV star. Ms. Garner doesn't have three beautiful kids, either!
i guess there's something to be said about 22 episodes without interruption. i'm wondering if it has something to do with many of the stars doing films and such.
I admit I have become hooked on Alias this season. The finale was pretty cool, and it sucks we have to wait until January for the new season. What's up with that?
Bill - grammAr.
Shawn,
My paraphrase of your position so far: “L” is a good person and she is right because I (Shawn) don’t know many people who share Nate’s values. None of you know “L” so you can’t criticize her ideas. You’re judging her unfairly. Nate is morally inferior because his blog friends judge. I’m a Christian therefore you should conform to my opinion of what Christians should be.
Your dodging the substance of Nate’s and “L’s argument.
You claim an interest in culture yet you are impotent to address even this one issue.
Athor Pel, you need to apologize to Shawn, he has read at least one series of Vox’s writings. “How to argue like a woman” or was that liberal?
There you go Shawn a personal judgmental statement, could even call it an insult, (and I have never met you) unfortunately for you the facts still seam to support it.
If you haven’t wimpered off some place, tell us why we should support L over Nate. Why is her position logically superior?
I just want to know what Sydney found on those black pages about herself, where the Rambaldi thingamajig is, that Marshall is OK, and how Sark manages to escape this time.
Shawn - I don't think anyone here has meant to personally attack L, whom none of us knows. I think her position is a little off, and that she makes the mistake many feminists do of thinking that men and women who are un-feminist are somehow women-haters. In truth, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence to the opposite. Does anyone else think it's funny that all of the Liberal type men that support feminist causes are actually a lot more abusive towards women in their personal lives than most conservatives (See Bill Clinton and the entire Kennedy family for examples).
No one here with the possible example of Anon on an earlier thread advocates the oppression of females, at least from anything I've read in the past several months (here and at Vox's).
Why did they never clear up the whole Sydney did not blow up the building, Lauren did in the Sydney face ala Mission Impossible? Then Sydney sports one later...I thought that was strange.
Shawn,
To give you a fairer hearing I check out your blog.
“The woman is a beautiful and confusing creature. Leslie and i are both very indecisive, especially when it comes to food. So after a few minutes of discussion …pizza… they are now closed on Sundays……. she makes a sad face….. We jump in the car and begin accessing our options:… i keep telling her that i'm not picky, that i'll eat whatever. i really have no preference.
Cont.
But she wants me to pick. Everything i suggest she kind of makes a face at, so i ask her what she wants…… and (I) tell her to make a decision…. i tell her to make the choice. she says "i don't care, you choose." i say "are you sure? i really don't care." This is a song and dance that we've performed many times in the past, so, with time running out, i make a decision: Wendy's…… ask if this is cool. She then says, "i guess this is ok. even though i wanted Captain D's….. She then says, "i mentioned it a few times, you know." But this is the way women are. i can't explain it. They can't explain it. It just is.
Cont.
Shawna,
PLEASE READ WOMAN EPISODE ONE
Most men think women are indecisive, and just plain don't know what they want. The men then become frustrated because, "She doesn't know what she wants, but she expects me too?" Yeah. Because listen up ya pansy, she DOES know what she wants. She wants you to grow a pair of balls and make a decision, and preferably one that she doesn't have to put that much thought into.
ME thinks the lady (Shawna) protests too much
As Kelso on That 70s Show would say..."Burn!"
grammAr
I hang my head in shame...
Well... I meant grammar, I didn't say anything about spelling....
Shawna. that's nice.
i'm indecisive. it's a personal triat and has NOTHING to do with my manhood. i care for my wife, and i want her to be happy. YOU MISSED THE POINT OF THE STORY. i made a choice, and i got blasted for it. i'm the kind of person who loves to suck the marrow out of life. every experience in the short amount of time given here on earth is a valued moment. i also know my wife VERY well after 7 years, and i know that if i choose something that she doesn't like, i'll get burned.
now. if some of you facists out there want to make all the desicions for your wives and they enjoy that sort of thing, more power to you. i have no problem with that.
Maybe Bill was talking about Frasier?
Cont...
i do have a problem with everyone on this bandwagon of supporting your way of life and busting on others. i never really said i agreed with Nate or L, i was merely standing up for my friend.
i fear "feminism" in it's most extreme cases, just like i fear fundimentalism and any other sort of extreme. i value life and ideas, even if i don't agree with them. if i didn't then Nate wouldn't be my friend. we've disagreed on stuff as long as i've known him.
Shawn, it's not about making a decision for her. it's about making a decision for yourself, and then being flexible to her wishes. very different concept.
cont...
but i value Nate and his ideas, and on a personal level, he's urned the respect to blast me, unlike some of you who've made judgements. when Nate posted L's thoughts, it was sort of in fun. and now that many of you have taken extreme case, well, it's sad to me.
i used to be like a lot of you. very conservative and thinking that i was right about everything and if people didn't agree with me they were idiots. now i like to listen to people and have respectful conversations. you have no respect for people, and that's no way to live in community. fun is one thing.
so let's all raise our fists to the man, and bash the liberals and feminists, and do it all in the name of God. that's what our ancestors did, so that makes it right...right?
Shawna,
“now. if some of you facists”
Ah, so you’re not above the judgmental statements and name calling are you?
For the record, I am in no way disparaging your wife or your marital relationship.
Your post just serves to prove Nate’s point. You started out this thread accusing Nate of hating the idea that people don’t share his views, then you proceeded to marginalize those who do.
So far you’ve offered nothing to support the idea that Nate is wrong. The example I quoted from your own blog serves to support Nate on this issue.
None of us agree with Nate 100% on anything. We can however express our opinions and generally make others see our point, even if we respectfully cannot accept theirs.
The key with this is making our point, you still haven’t done that for yourself or for L, nor have you retracted your harsh and false statements.
BTW Nate is referred to as Natalie from time to time. It’s especially funny if the girls do it.
“i used to be like a lot of you. very conservative and thinking that i was right about everything and if people didn't agree with me they were idiots. now i like to listen to people and have respectful conversations. you have no respect for people,”
There he goes again…..
Judging people he hasn’t met.
Dodging issues that he can’t discuss intelligently with ad hominem attacks.
At least now I know I'm not the only one Res Ispa spanks.
Bill,
Me spank???
ok. that is true. i did name call. that wasn't very nice of me. i apologize.
i don't necessarily disagree with Nate. i thought it was funny, and i knew some people would get a kick out of it. he makes great points. Nate's job in this world is to tick people off. sometimes he doesn't even believe what he says. he just says it. i was sort of razzing Nate that L said that on my blog, and he posts about it. fair.
my point isn't in support of either. i think that L and Nate are both people with strong opinions, and i'm cool with that. there's no need for name calling, though, if someone doesn't believe what you believe. or maybe there is and that's why people shoot people.
i'm sorry i got upset. i should use that grain of salt on what you kids say as well. i'll be sure to keep it on my desk when i visit here.
Nate, take note, Shawn knows how to spell 'apologize'... 
“Nate's job in this world is to tick people off. sometimes he doesn't even believe what he says.”
No friggin way!!!
I thought Nate was THE red Neck Rhodes Scholar.
I genuflect in front of my shrine to Nate every morning. I know that we all pray daily for his divine wisdom and guidance.
Shawn,
If you’re going to play here, some rules
1. It’s always fair to take some one literally.
2. It’s ok to be contrary, just back it up.
3. Were friends, ribbing and pot shots are ok
Bill,
Seriously, when did I give you a spanking? Did you come out in favor of gay, priest, boy scoutmaster, and swim team coaches or something?
Well its 7pm EST, so you guys should be at Bible study.
I’ve got to set through 4 hours of correlation and regression analysis. Ye Ha.
Let’s see if I can convince folks that regression analysis isn’t the sole answer to picking stocks, or portfolio management..
Jamie what are your thoughts on statistical modeling/predicting for an equities portfolio?
Back around 12:30 est.
Yeah Res, it was a few weeks ago, I can't recall the topic. I think I was spouting off again and you smacked me. No blood no foul.
Actually, given Nate's riding habits, I'd say he's a Road Scholar.
Copy editor for hire! For all of your proofreading needs. Problems with spelling, grammar, and punctuation? Call me!
*grin and a couple of winks*
I love y'all.
To reiterate what Pink Kitty posted somewhere in the blogosphere in response to someone's query (how specific, Elena...)---I am single, usually Republican but am considering the Libertarian label, and most definitely NOT a feminazi. I do like that I can own property and vote and have equal protection under the law, but I will fanfare the day when hubby-wherever-he-is-out-there takes leadership in the life we'll build. Bug killing, financial ledger keeping, grilling, keeping track of the building of our house, leading me further on the walk with Christ...*sigh* Those'll be the days!
It must have been about 3rd parties or some other ubber important thing.
Your right on road scholar, but hey the guy is smart, he's got a wife that lets him keep a haram. How cool is that?
Back to the superhero bit.
A man obsessed with bygone days of his own seeming, but not actual, heroism. Eww. (Nostalgia, OK. Obsession, bad.)
A man who knows who he is in Christ; who follows God and will not compromise His standards, even for me; who knows his own mind and seeks to have that of Christ's; who strives to fulfill his calling; who invites me to help me fulfill his purpose; who makes decisions, delegates when needed, and finishes tasks. Hero. Superhero, really, when contrasted against others. Whatever flavor he may be.
i am "L." contrary to what shawn said, i am a feminist. although it doesn’t describe all of who i am, i'll claim the title. i am a post-modern. i am a follower of Christ. i’ll claim a lot of titles. you just don’t know what they all are…and that’s okay.
i don't know nate or any of you at all. which is precisely why i posted my comment on shawn's blog. i know shawn, and i also know that topics like these are often best discussed amongst friends.
glad you all are having such fun with what i wrote. 
cont.
at the same time, i find it disturbing that nate has asserted that my world view is "ignorant" based on "farcicle ideals [i] hold, despite obvious conflict with observable reality."
i find it disturbing that res ipsa has asserted that i am "utterly ignorant."
i find it disturbing that bill has asserted that it would be tough for me to keep my mouth shut or to look pretty.
all of this after reading less than 200 words? you know nothing of my life or my history or my story. i was being sarcastic, yes, but i was also saying that extremism is dangerous. none of us knows everything. dialogue and communication are essential in shaping who we are, what we think, and how we live. learning from each other is good, but that doesn't often take place when we attack people we don't know.
You were disturbed? That's it!?
Shoot, I gotta try harder next time.
I find it absolutely hillarious that something like this could garner such a response. The truth is, if the majority would ignore the Femenists, the world would be a better place.
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I am sure some of you will, but I thought the whole point of discussion was to discuss, and no where in that premise does it say we should all agree all of the time. I have disagreed with some of you on certain things in the past, but if I speak my mind and catch some heat, I don't take it as a personal affront. I don't think anyone here meant anything personal against anyone. And like those Mormon girls on Nate's porch, if you can't defend your beliefs, whatever they are, you shouldn't state them in the first place.
Um, as a long-time Limbaugh listener, I must correct the use of the term "femi-nazi". It describes only that handful of women who want every pregnancy to end in abortion. There's not too many of them, thankfully.
Folks drawing fire are 'disturbed' when it comes their way.
Sorta like the kid with purple hair getting miffed 'cuse folks stare at him/her, ain't it?
I just realized from scanning earlier comments from diferent posts - Sarah's on the rag.
L,
“have i stepped back into some kind of alternate bizzarro world”
I’m not sure you ever left.
“i would LOVE to live a life where i just sit in the corner with my mouth shut”
Try it, I’m sure you’ll sound smarter.
“you know nothing of my life or my history or my story”
Why should we give an airborne rodents posterior about it?
“yes, but i was also saying that extremism is dangerous.”
Not in the quote I read on Nate’s or Shawn’s blog, if you were a man I’d call you a liar.
“none of us knows everything.”
Some less than others.
“dialogue and communication are essential in shaping who we are, what we think, and how we live. learning from each other is good,”
If ever a more estrogen raddled sentence was ever posted on this blog, I don’t know what it would be. Apparently logic and scientific observation have a limited role in your little “bizzarro world”.
“such stuff perpetuates a world of stereotype, illusion, and false reality…have we not yet reached a place where we can try to communicate and learn from the differences that do exist?”
Now that I’m sure to have your dander “disturbed”, Nate put forward his opinion/world view on male female relations. What’s yours and why should we accept it as superior?
Greetings from just south of Hotter Than Hell Houston. (DISCLAIMER: I am a wretched speller.. and have no energy for a dictionary. This is not evidence of ignorance, but laziness at this time of night after teaching all day.) I have (with great curiousity...and gritted teeth at times) read responses. This, being my first encounter with the world of "blogging", has been interesting to read the thoughts(umm.. I am still trying to ascertain how much thought truly went into some) of people I don't know. However, I do know ONE of the authors. Lynnette has been my best friend for the past five years of my life. I feel compelled to say a few things...
Yes.. discussion is essential. We hope that when we speak we are not simply releasing CO2, but sparking life to NEW thoughts that may challenge what we know. Please.. let us keep in mind the purpose of journey. We come from different places and have differing perspectives to offer.
Boy did I goof.
My apologies Miss Sarah. I was meant Shawna.
L,
Hint, use logic to prove your point. We don't care about your emotions or your story or your verbal skills, and we will hold you to what you write.
Good luck.
Post-modernism and Christianity are polar opposites.
There is no intellectually honest way of being a Bible-believing Christian and a post-modernist.
cont. Lynn and I do not agree on everything, however we approach issues with grace, opennes, honesty, and love. Thus, we learn from eachother. IF you knew her, you would know a beautiful, intelligent, FUNNY, young woman who earned her masters in Theology and changed. I believe Christ would be pleased with how she sees this world. (Let us keep in mind that feminist.. in the rawest definition is about EQUALITY for all.. men, women, PEOPLE.)
The issue is how we see differences. Period. WE WANT to wrap our minds around what makes us who we are. I teach high school students, who are the most prejudicial individuals I have encountered. It is my hope that through discussion we can end dog chasing tail conversations and LEARN. First, let's listen.
Post-modernism... can most definately be a part of a BIBLE believing journey of faith.
You don't know my friend. Don't attack her.
Jo
KLRman....d'oh!
Easy on Sarah there KLRboy. We're pretty fond o' her around here and I don't take kindly to my harem girls being embarrassed, either diliberately, or un.
That said... Ribbin' is all good. No blood, No Foul.
D'oh and double D'oh.
Bad on me.
I still say SpaceBunny is a dude.
Elena and Joy,
Keep your hopes up, such men exist.
I didn’t believe in the mythical “Christian woman” after college when I was single, yet I found one with ALL the charter qualities I required.
Make a detailed list of the qualities you believe important in a husband, pray for it, and don’t compromise.
Elena, send a pic to Nate he’ll post it, I’ve already decided that if anything happens to Mrs. Loquitur, I’m giving Joy a call. It wasn’t the pic (not that it hurt) but after the biscuits and gravy brag and the booby story, well what can I say? Red pay attention here other guys would be all over this. Kristy, were still waiting to hear bout you in more detail. Anyway Elena, don’t give up and we do have a number of single guys who stop by that were attracted to the blog for the same reasons you were.
I got dibs on Joy!
Res, who is Mrs. Loquitur, and what do i need to do to get her out of the picture?? hehe
Jeanne,
"There is no intellectually honest way of being a Bible-believing Christian and a post-modernist."
Well said.
KLRman, anytime you wanna get a fire goin' in your fireplace and smoke a pipe for me...i'm all yours!
Joy,
You flirt.
If you promise to move out west I’ll tell you.
I spent some time in Honduras in the early 90’s so I’m more than ok with your desire to see Columbia.
She's taken, Res.
You can have her after she tires of me.
“KLRman, anytime you wanna get a fire goin' in your fireplace and smoke a pipe for me...i'm all yours!”
Hey Joy, whats a guy got to do? Club you in the head and drag you back to the cave?
I was wish’n those Mormon boys would stick around and make a good point or two. I was will’n to convert for the fringe benefits.
“You can have her after she tires of me.”
That should be right around the time you get around to asking her for the first date.
hey Res...i'm flying out west on sunday...does that work for you? hehe
Where? Will you be around on Monday?
Spokane, and yes
Do you have a long layover some place? Your almost as far from me in Spokane as you are in TN, believe it or not.
um, about an hour in phoenix in either direction, 2 weeks apart
On second thought, Joy. Give Res a shot.
I do my best work as a backdoor man ....
Phoenix also a long way off. I live in the free and independent state of Wyoming. We'll have to get together some other time.
Seriously the next time my wife wants to visit Nashville I’m going to call ahead so we can all hang out. I just don’t think I’m getting away anytime before Dec the way things are looking now.
You realize my goal of this little flirtation really is the biscuits and gravy.
Not that I’m opposed to the traditional southern “roll in the sack with honey” breakfast. The Mrs. is a RD CDE so the biscuits and gravy are a rarity for me.
well, if i'm in the States when you come down south, i'll make ya some biscuits and gravy, maybe even some chicken casserole for lunch, too!
i'm leaving late august and returning early july from colombia.
KLRman, i don't at all doubt that you prefer the backdoor
Ok by me Joy, true love can wait.
Of course I have been known to travel across continents and oceans when the right woman was waiting on the other side of the globe.
Best O luck to y'all.
Joy, just leave a forwarding address.... and the key....
Res,
We talked about that cuckolding instinct, didn't we?
KLRman,
“i don't at all doubt that you prefer the backdoor”
I figured she was talking about your hanker’n for boys.
Nothin' wrong with a young bot now and then.
at least not for me...
despite appearances...i am an extreme innocent. my flirtation can be misleading.
Lets hope not!
I like my B&G spicy.
Res,
In reference to your responses to L:
I love you, man!
you ever heard of a good girl just waiting for a man to corrupt her?...that would describe me. nate has gotten a good start, but there is still much work to be done.
Joy,
OK darling I give, just make it look like an accident and make it quick and painless she’s been a good wife.
KLRman, check your email, i sent ya the pics of me that nate won't use
David,
Thanks, just doing what I do best.
At least when I'm not available in person, understand Joy?
Hey what about me?
res, ya know...wyoming is a beautiful state, and i wouldn't miss my hiking spots too much with the ample opportunities there!
res, i don't have an email address for you!
You’re a big tease Joy.
It’s 11:30 the best greasy spoon doesn’t open for another 6 hours so I can’t get any biscuits. Then you got to bring up hiking too. Has anybody explained the effects of high altitude physical exertion to you and what happens in your brain when you’re short on 02?
no, but maybe you should 'cause the altitude in colombia is quite high 'cause of the Andes
You used to email me.
Joy,
I'll show you right after the wedding.
man, why is it that i can only get claimed men to like me?? and the only single men that like me are out of state/country....frustrating
That’s the way it went when I was 25 and single too. Bummer I know. Just don’t compromise on anything Joy, it will pay off later. I married my wife before she turned 30, she faced the same struggles and wasted time on some real losers, I went to school with 2 of them.
you could only get claimed men, too? i didn't know you liked the back door as well! maybe i'm barking up the wrong trees in here...hehe
OK, no more MR. nice guy trying to lend a tender e shoulder to distressed damsel.
Just send me those naughty pics that Nate wouldn’t show.
did ya get the pics?
I ment the naughty pics, not the pissed off pic.
i don't do naughty...yet...remember, i'm still in need of corruption
it's interesting how people always have a different take on that first pic and what they think i'm thinking...
Joy,
Hold firm. The Lord will provide.
And since Res has taken back his shoulder, mine's available.
....no, wait, I'm claimed too! Oops.
Seriously,
You’re not going to get out of Columbia with out some Latin guy marrying you. Just remember that culture has a very strong male perspective on relationships. Also you’re a great find in SA, because you are, but also because Americans are ALL rich. Don’t tell anyone about your family or your sister’s profession etc. If your not kidnapped you will still be a target for a Visa seeking male.
Wow, you don't read a blog for a few hours and look out!!! First things first, L, if you are going to make such statements, please back up why you believe these things or stop saying them, not that we don't care how you "feel" about a subject, but you are putting your feelings out there as facts, which only weakens your argument. I believe that women are as good and worthy as men, I believe we are equal in God's eyes, but after that the equalities end. Vox and I had very traditional wedding vows except that I refused to say "obey" because I was not going to vow before God to obey everything he said. What if told me to jump off a cliff (I realize that Nate and Dr.Who may do this anyway!)
Cont'
How did I merit the comment on my gender? What did I ever do to you? My OB/GYN is convinced I'm not a guy, what more do you want? And finally, go Joy!!
All this datin' going around and nobody's plotting to abduct the North Carolinian, the one fella who is actually in a neighboring state?
:p
I scoff at thee.
LOL
"What if told me to jump off a cliff (I realize that Nate and Dr.Who may do this anyway!)"
You know FA... for some reason I think everyone believes you're spoken for..
SB,
KLRman's a good guy.. apparently he and I have a great deal in common. He's just thinking the same thing I would have thought if I had seen your picture before I got to know you. Chicks as hot as you are ain't common on the net. 99 times out of 100 if you see a picture like that, it's a guy pretending to be a chick.
Don't mind him... he must've been raised ruff.
Hamster, you must be joking, there a plenty of hot girls on the web, I'm a member of your harem and I've see the other women. I know he was just joking, I just couldn't resist. You know me.
Joy-
When you're done giving these guys a hard time, come back and see me.
and while I'm at it, to all you married guys trying to corrupt her.... SHADDUP!!!!.... let the single guy have SOME fun.
Red,
Don’t forget who had to personally get a hold of you to tell you a bout her.
I just want her for her biscuits.
It took me less than 6 weeks to propose to my wife, what are you waiting for?
Red, you gettin' jealous? hrmm...insecurity?
Res -
I'm just pissed at myself for thinking I wanted sleep instead of staying up just a little while longer and seeing this thread. I''d have had a lot of fun with it. No problem on the biscuits and gravy... I understand where your priorities lay. And, I do still owe you one for the headsup.
Joy
I was just asking in you were done having fun teasing these boys. They're just trying to have the fun I'd rather have. So jealous, no, territorial, yes.
so now i'm your territory??? interesting...hehe
Has anyone else staked a claim??? Claimjumpin' IS a shootin' offense. I can still use Nate's "He just needed killin' defense" on that one.
Joy,
I have a confession to make, I’ve been unfaithful.
I just got back form the café and I had Biscuits and Gravy and some scrambled eggs.
Although the waitress is friendly and calls me by name, she isn’t as beautiful as you. Not only did I pay her for fulfilling my carnal desires, I left a tip too.
I hope you can forgive me and take me back. I hope you understand that its not totally my fault, a man can only go for so long before the flesh caves in to physical needs.
Res, you crack me up, i'll forgive ya this time, just don't let it happen again. but if it does...don't tell me, what i don't know won't hurt me!, at least in reference to this
red, are you gettin' worried?
Joy-
For good biscuits and gravy a man will be a complete pig. I know. I'm one of those pigs. I'm just smart enough to know when to keep my mouth shut.
Something about love me, feed me, smile at me makes a lot of sense... and darlin', I ain't seen no biscuits and gravy coming my way, much less the chicken caserole that you make right in front of my eyes. Hmmmm??? Care to comment??
Red,
Read her last post. She doesn’t care if you cheat!
Why haven’t you proposed already?
Let’s review the facts.
1. Hot chick
2. Cooks
3. Likes outdoor stuff
4. Practically begs to be deflowered
5. Wants to get married, stay home and pamper her man.
Red you live in Dearborn drive up Telegraph to Pontiac to work. I guess you work in the auto industry. It’s not like your giving up paradise. Sure maybe Abdul at the 7-11 will miss you but so. She lives in TN, is 25, hot, likes to cook and wants to please her man.
Look man all the auto jobs are going south or overseas. GM has plants in TN, if that’s who you work for. What’s so great about your job that you haven’t at least tried for this girl?
Red, the length of I-75 kinda poses as an obstacle
Damn Res - you don't pull any punches. Problem is, you're making too much sense. Maybe I need to start checking the classifieds in Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, and points south again. And actually, I'm in transportation Res, I just have specialized in the auto industry.
You two only live 8 ½ hrs apart. Red think of it as two trips up north. For $99 bucks you can get a roundtrip flight to Nashville have Joy pick you up at the airport.
Dag Red
You keep waiting and I am gonna propose to her!
And its only some 1200 miles to go visit
Of course I’m making sense.
You’re trading Dearborn for Nashville.
No chick for hot chick.
Bachelorhood for pampered living, sexual pleasure and wild fulfillment of your every fantasy.
Ok not really on that last part, its called marriage, eventually it will turn into “help me with the house work” and “twice a year” like the rest of us. But you do get the honeymoon and trying to have babies. Did I mention she likes to cook and she’s still young enough to be semi trainable?
Misery loves company that’s why I pushing so hard on this.
Who do you work for and what do you do?
Res, twice a year? Maybe you need to help out more often with the housework...you know, tit for tat.
Red - if you work for a big corporation, maybe you could try for an overseas assignment...like, say, in South America. Also, in the job hunt, Chattanooga is not too far from Atlanta.
Jeez Res, now we know who's bringing the average down. " The average married couple has sex three times a month".
These people must be very unhappy. I think it's sad. And people wonder why the divorce rate is so high.
Res... you arent seriously saying that your wife uses sex to try to get you to get you to do things are ya?
That is one of the few things that I simply will not tolerate.
Res -
Man, you're worse than a jewish mother on this. "Why aren't you married??" "Why don't you give me grandbabies??" Good Lord!! If I didn't know that you were only looking out for me and Joy, I could easily get pissed off at ya and damn, that could get be an ugly fight.
Now, also, if I caved into y'all and did things on your time table, now, how would that prove I'm my own man?? Now, do you think Joy would look at me the same way after that?? You've done fought the fight to get your lady-wife. Me, I'm still in that... well, if I said fight or war, that makes it look like there's a winner and a loser... don't like thinking that anyone loses when they find that woman they love and head on down that path to "happily ever after" land. Just keep Joy and me in your prayers, and whatever happens will be either very good or very, VERY GOOD!! Let us deal with things in our own way.
Red, if we can't give you hard time, what are we going to do for fun?
'I just realized from scanning earlier comments from diferent posts - Sarah's on the rag.'
ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHA..KLR, do not worry about offending me. I have a sick sense of humour - I laughed although I was wondering where I gave that impression!!!
Alright, there is no way I'm reading all these posts..I read a few.
Natalie, I chomp on the bit when I think that somebody isn't being dealt with sufficiently..it has been dealt with. So - sorry if I disappointed you.
oh and thanks for defending me but I wasn't embarrassed..
-cont.-
In the mean time.... daaammmmnnn. Never, and I mean never, had this many people diggin' into my love life. Makes me feel like I'm a celebrity or something.... downright scary. And if I see any of you rummaging around in my garbage like some papparatzi, I'll get the shotgun out and elimnate that problem once and for all.
SB -
You have special dispensation... please, by all means, give me a hard time. Might make Joy jealous..... naaaahhhh. She ain't gonna fall for that one. Dagnabbit.... need to think on new plan.......
Just be careful Red, any number of this crew will probably shoot back.
just to cut Red some slack, timing is a little off due to the fact that i'm leaving the country for a year starting in august. this is a major reason why things are going slowly. however it is still fun to give him a hard time because i know he can take it.
Joy -
Why would you start cutting me slack now??? Feeling sorry for me or something?? I'm a big boy... I can take it. :P
And Spacebunny... That's why I hang out here.... get to see who's the better shot. Course, never said I wouldn't cheat, either.
Flannel Avenger, i'll be passing through the southwest corner of NC a couple times this summer. i like to hang out in NE GA a lot. Maybe you're up the challenge that Red is slackin' on...hehe
SB, RJK, Nate, etl..
Just kidding!
Do I need to start putting back in the posts?
You don’t think I’m for real do you, besides our anniversary is this weekend and I wouldn’t screw that up. It’s 50% after all.
Red,
“now, how would that prove I'm my own man??”
You give that up as soon as you say I do.
C'mon Res, you give everyone else so much crap, we dont' get many opportunities to give it back. Congratulations on the anniversary.
Flannel Avenger, i just saw on your resume that you speak some spanish...so score one, live in neighboring state, score two, speak some spanish...you're doing pretty good there, man.
Damn - I am gonna have to shoot somebody. Now, do I wing him, or do I make him a land owner.... 'bout 6 feet of it. hmmmmm. Ok Red, keep repeating to yourself.... "Your Honor, he just needed killin'. Your Honor, he just needed killin'."
Hey Nate, you got a law degree??? I might need a good defense attorney at this rate.
SB
Maybe I do. All in good fun.
Joy I didn’t know Spanish was on the list, I’ve got a buddy to the east of you. He likes to vacation at his sisters place in Mexico, they own a resort/hotel there.
See Red I don’t have to help you to still have fun.
oh, man, spanish is HUGE on the list! i'm bilingual and majored in spanish in college. i teach english to hispanic kids at work, actually today was my last day at work 'cause i'll be gone next year. i'm about to head off to the year-end soccer party for some of our girls. don't get me started on how important spanish is to me, i might not stop.
Res - happy anniversary. have fun
I read that bi lilingal part twice.
Good thing I almost bought a plan ticket to TN.
Thanks, RJK
plane
Joy,
Shout out to another Nashvillian!!!
So what's taking you to Colombia? Is this missions work?
Sí, estoy de acuerdo contigo. El hombre quien será tu esposo futuro necesite a tener la habilidad de hablar español.
Feel free to correct my Spanish grammar and spelling!
And for the crowd...much love to my Southern sibs in Christ. (Yes, we love you Yankees too.)
Just trying this out its been a long time since I was in Spain or CA.
Your future Hubby needs to speak Spanish too, right?
Porque
Men and women have a hard enough time understanding each other in English.
Y'all think I'm spoken for? I give off that vibe?? That explains an AWFUL lot! Anyway, I'm pretty sure that now isn't the time, considerin' I'm pretty sure that we're about to go into total war one way or the other.
Si. Yo hablo español. I'm actually a bit rusty at it, but I had enough that I consider my skill "intermediate". With a little practice, I could be pretty good.
As for being in Southwest North Carolina, it depends on a myraid of variables.
i would easily love to return the comments in spanish, but i know nate all too well. anytime i say something in spanish in front of him he says, "quit your cussin'" i don't want to make nate mad at me for screwin' with his blog. but yes, the future hubby does need to know spanish, simply because i want my kids to be bilingual and it wouldn't be fair to him for me to be able to converse with our kids when he can't participate. even though i live in the US, a good part of my life, even thoughts, are in spanish. and to have a man that i can't share that with would almost be torture. also, when a guy speaks to me in spanish...i tend to melt.
take note single men...take a spanish lesson or two and it'll go a long way with me.
elena, i love nashville, however i'm a chattanoogan currently, at least until the end of july, then i'm without city. we should get together sometime...i think we could have great fun.
Flannel Avenger,
i pass through on HWY 64 on my way to Clayton, GA. i usually take a pitstop in Murray, NC.
Been there. As I recall, that section of 64 is a teensy bit curvy, as all good mountain roads should be.
It's about 8 hours from me. (I'm in Raleigh).
that's a do-able trip...hehe
Res,
Happy Anniversary! Which one is it?
Ok, no offense to Red or FA, but who wants to bet that Joy falls head over heels in love with a tall, dark, and handsome South American within a month of her arrival down there...if she melts when he speaks Spanish, how much more so will melt when it's with an accent...note to the men...accents turn us on, we can't help it. And no, Nate, Southern accents don't count usually (sometimes one from bayou country works okay).
FA- I thought when someone said SW NC you must have been near Asheville. Are you at school in Raleigh or work out there? (My brother works in RTP.)
David,
7 Years. She wanted to plan something special for us this year. I think were going to Kevin Cosners for dinner but she wont say. All she wanted from me was her oil changed and the garden tilled (which I do anyway). I’m planning to take her to Jackson in a 2 or 3 weeks for a long weekend.
RJK, this has been of great concern to my family for years now. they're afraid of my coming home hitched to a south american and moving down there for good. it's a running joke in my family that i'm gonna go to Colombia, find myself a filthy rich drug lord, get him saved, then live off the money for the rest of our days doing 'good' for the world...hehe...could be fun.
but seriously, i've had one too many friends and acquaintances that have had foreign men convince them that they are in love and get married just to have the marriage from hell, and it turns out his main goal as US residency...i will be very wary of marrying someone who can't get a residency on his own, or at least won't do the best he can to get one.
Smart girl. Lets see if thats what you do.
I have lived in Raleigh for the past 16 years, having moved from Greensboro when I was 5. I graduated from North Carolina State University this past August and I am currently working in a job that doesn't pay especially well and isn't very enjoyable for me. But that's another story. So, yeah, I live in Raleigh, and I was actually out in RTP today, yesterday, and the day before.
As for the accent, I have no use for a woman who thinks a South American accent is sexier than a Southern Accent. That's an impossibility, like a Square Circle, or a Manly Frenchman.
If one was a single missionary to a Spanish-speaking country and wanted to continue that work alongside the spouse, the spouse would either need to know Spanish or be willing to learn it. Was thinking of such a scenario. Not sure if Joy is interested in doing mission work; just thought it might be a possibility for her one day.
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