Bladerunner come to life. Been waiting a while on this.
But...what is the appeal to a fake woman?
Programmable responses. The only thing mine will say is "Yes master. You are right, oh glorious one".
"But...what is the appeal to a fake woman?"
Sweetheart... if "fake" mattered to men prostitution wouldn't pay so well.
" But...what is the appeal to a fake woman?"
The mute button. Heh heh...
lol@BillyD
....but even in prostitution, the woman is real!
Neh..men like fake boobs, too...okay, fine then. Point taken.
Crystal.. if it looks good... and it feels real...
That's all good enough for us darlin'.
Well, they way I see it, women have had robotic men for ages. Just the only part that they wanted, anyway.
[quote changed slightly]
what is the appeal of a fake woman?
Alimony and child support.
I know, I know. I got it. What chicks want from a man is different from what guys want in a chick. When I asked the question, I was thinking in chick mode. That's all.
Although Nate's comment begs the question, does this mean you guys would go after a convincingly feminine transsexual? hehehe (kidding)
Ummm... No. No no no.
"It can respond to people touching it. It's very satisfying, although we obviously have a long way to go yet."
Will it ever get to the point where we will have to address whether robots have rights? What about androids?
What ratio of flesh-and-bond to metal is required to be "human", with corresponding human rights?
CL: "...does this mean you guys would go after a [description deleted for decency's sake]?"
Crystal, that was just wrong. Even in jest.
Ummm...'flesh-and-bone', drat it!
does this mean you guys would go after a convincingly feminine transsexual?
Go after with a bat, maybe. "Go after" the way I think you meant it, NO. Although, there's really no need to speculate, there's been many a news story about "hate crimes" committed when some cowboy found out his date had hydraulic equipment as part of the standard OEM package.
Crystal,
We are, after all, simple creatures.
This should have perhaps gone into the BJW thread, but given where this thread has been going perhaps it fits here better:
There was this couple that had been married for 20 years. Every time
they made love the husband always insisted on shutting off the light.
Well, after 20 years the wife felt this was ridiculous. She figured she
would break him out of this crazy habit. So one night, while they were
in the middle of a wild, screaming, romantic session, she turned on the
lights. She looked down. and saw her husband was holding a
battery-operated leisure device... a vibrator! Soft, wonderful and
larger than a real one. She went completely ballistic. "You impotent
bastard," She screamed at him, "how could you be lying to me all of
these years? You better explain yourself!"
The husband looks her straight in the eyes and says calmly:
"I'll explain the toy . . . you explain the kids."
Spacebunny, you naughty girl 
No no.. That's not a bad joke! That's a good joke...
hahaha...I just wanted to see your reactions for my own personal amusement. Was that so wrong?
*gasps*@SB..now, that is just nasty! Good joke!
I just wanted to see your reactions for my own personal amusement. Was that so wrong?
Nope, I do it all the time too!
Rastus goes to a friends house, his friend say Rastus you looks bad. Rastus says But I feels good. On his way home he meets a friend, and he says Rastus you looks bad, Rastus says I feels good. So Rastus goes to the doctor, and the doctor says Rastus you looks bad, Rastus says, that's what everybody say, but I feels good. So the Doctor says Let me see and he picks up his doctor book.
Flipping throught the papges he says
Hmmm, feels bad looks good, no thats not it.
Hmmm looks good feels good, no that's not it
let's see looks bad, feels bad, no that's not it.
Ah here it is looks bad feels good... long pause....
Rastus you is a vagina.
I'd like the female take on this.
Say they could make an android that looked, felt and preformed like a real women in every aspect. Said robot could be purchased with super housewife programming that allowed her to keep house, cook and perform every household chore that you could imagine, and do it as good if not better than you would.
She is expensive. You must have her.
Husband discovers that the robot has optional “hot pants” programming package that will provide endless amounts of headache/PMS free entertainment. She can do that as good if not better than you would too.
Husband promises only to interface his hardware with her programming when you’re not in the mood.
Do you still buy the android? Do you consider it cheating if the husband uses her hot pants programming? WHY?
Guys what do you think?
I think I’ll write a book, “Ethical Dilemmas for the 22nd Century.
I'll take a Paris Hilton model.
I knew this would happen.
I can forsee some serious jealousy issues.
Not at my house mind you... but definately there would be a spike in the divorce rate.. both from men who simply had no use for the nagging wife, and the wives who couldn't take the fact that their husbands were happy.
No, wait, isn't Paris already a robot?
She kinda has that synthetic look.
It'd be great. Say your wife/gal divorces you, breaks up with you, or dies.
Just take a photo and voice sample (if you have one like say from a home video or something) to the robot maker and have them build you a replica.
Viola! Mm-mmm! I love technology!
women... certainly not all.. DrWho isn't the slightest bit this way... but women in general... are very very jealous, and very very insecure.
They reliably react to their men lookin' at porn, or commenting on some cute chick at the mall.
If they can't handle that... how do think they'll handle a robot concubine?
Not to well.
concubine
I haven't hear that word in years. Too funny.
Hey.. they had swingers in the Bible too ya know... if Genesis 30 doesn't describe swingin'... I don't know what does!
I'm glad cos it means in ten years or so when they perfect a girl robot that is just like a human female (or close enough) I'll finally be able to get a girlfriend!
Yes sir, no more worrying about dyin' a virgin for me anymore!
Anon... why are you postin' without a name?
I mean after all... there are plenty of good chicks that hang out here.
yeah, like me! Give a girl a chance, would ya!
Okay, howze this for a name?
Hmmm. Bad choice, maybe? Maybe "Big Daddy" would be better?
Yeah, I like this name better. Heh-heh.
wow... you better stick with Big Daddy. damn.
how old are ya BD?
'Do you still buy the android?'
No, the husband shouldn't buy the android.
Do you consider it cheating if the husband uses her hot pants programming?
Yes and no. In some ways, it's like masturbation, but in other ways, I would be thinking, 'but you're only allowed to do that with me!!!'
Really, it takes away from the whole intimacy thing when the husband is out there screwing a freakin' android.
Nate Dating, Mating Service.
“Really, it takes away from the whole intimacy thing when the husband is out there screwing a freakin' android.”
The idea is a wife would gladly let a robot do chores that she don’t want to do, why not take care of this one too? If the wife has him wore out on her own he wouldn’t need the android.
I'd be all for the android if it did all the other wifely duties. In fact, I'd push for it...
'and the wives who couldn't take the fact that their husbands were happy.'
If the hubby isn't happy, then it's *the wife's* duty to make him happy somehow even if she isn't 'in the mood'.
'They reliably react to their men...commenting on some cute chick at the mall.'
psssh..
if the android is doing all the other wifely duties, then shouldn't the help of the android allow her the free time to satisfy her husband?
CL is perfect evidence of what I predicted.
Chicks just can't take this stuff.
DrWho.. Joy.. Kristy.. and Spacebunny being the obvious exceptions.
'The idea is a wife would gladly let a robot do chores that she don’t want to do, why not take care of this one too?'
...sex as a chore?...Maybe I wouldn't know any better but that just sounds weird to me. Gosh, there must be something wrong with the chick if she considers it a chore!
'If the wife has him wore out on her own he wouldn’t need the android.'
I will not say it. I will not say it. I will not say it. I will not say it.
Joy, Where were you 10 years ago? You could have been such a great find.
CL,
Go ahead and say it.
The question is just for fun. If they ever made such a robot I think it would be an issue.
CL
Listen sweety.. I'm going to give you some honest advice...
This idea that your man will only ever be attracted to you... and only think you are hot... and won't think of other women..
Yeah...
That's a big lie. Divest yourself of it.
Prediction: the NOW NAGS would go ballistic and demand that all anatomically correct female dolls be outlawed, confiscated and destroyed posthaste. There would then be a thriving black market in "accessory" body modification and reprogramming modules. This would then be triumphantly produced as further evidence that all men are subhuman pigs and unworthy of a female's greatness.
Of course male androids would be "striking back at the male patriarchy" and "reclaming control of female sexuality" and loudly praised, while feminists will get more and more embittered and alone.
Not saying of course that he'd ever act on it. Lots of men stay faithful, and never let the thought life get out of control.
'CL is perfect evidence of what I predicted.'
While I'd love to join your 'cool chick club' (and I really would - no sarcasm intended), I just think there are some things that should remain with a husband and a wife, even if the other alternative is an android. It's not a matter of jealousy. I mean, it's ridiculous to be jealous over a machine. It's the principle of the matter. I really do think of sex as something special between the husband and the wife, but maybe that's because I have never been..uhhh..spoiled. It isn't a matter of being insecure, although I can be accused of that at times.
Please don't take anything I have said as an insult.
'if the android is doing all the other wifely duties, then shouldn't the help of the android allow her the free time to satisfy her husband?'
hehehe...exactly what I was thinking.
Lots Res?
Some... a few... maybe... like 12 of us.
12 is alot, sometimes.
"It's the principle of the matter. I really do think of sex as something special between the husband and the wife, but maybe that's because I have never been..uhhh..spoiled. "
So I am to conclude from this that you will expect that your husband will not masturbate?
Nate,
Buddy this is our pure as the Canadian snow CL your talking to. Let her enjoy the naivety of those first awkward and exciting moments with her man without putting those thoughts in her head.
you're right Res... my bad.
Nate, can you email me about a firearm question.
Specifically, how can you tell if a gun is rated for +p ammunition. It's a Taurus .38 spl my father-in-law gave my wife.
Thanks, sorry to bust up the android party.
Res Ipsa,
Nah...I have a dirty mind.
Nate, thanks for the advice. I appreciate it, but it was unnecessary. I wrote 'psssh' because I've been there, done that - and I couldn't care less whether he thinks any other chick is hot. He's said it before. It ain't no biggie. I'd rather he say it than purposely hide it from me. There are some beautiful women out there. I'm not going to expect him to dig out his eyeballs just so that he'll never see them again!
'the NOW NAGS would go ballistic'
Hey, that almost convinced me to change my mind!
'So I am to conclude from this that you will expect that your husband will not masturbate?'
Please..it's not the same thing!
"Please..it's not the same thing!"
It is to a guy.
Nate,
I know she’s over 25 and all but she looks like a kid in her pic. Which, by the way the harem link is still broken. I was probably out of line with the question anyway.
CL,
Guys think about sex more than they can actually do it. This is probably a good thing, because if we did it as much as we think about it, the earth’s population would have reached 100 Billion about 1,500 years before Christ. Get married, learn how to please your man and he won’t have any reason to look or think about getting it else where.
"Nah...I have a dirty mind."
Welcome to the locker room.
'...he won’t have any reason to look or think about getting it else where.'
lol...
Nate, I don't know how to respond to your last comment.
You're a rookie darlin'. You ain't supposed to know yet.
CL
on't back down this is sick, as if a women is just a life support system for a vagina. You are right they are wrong.
In my early 30's.
Don't you hate when the Catholics show up Nate?
Nah... I like 'em Gregg.. It's always entertaining to see people extrapolate insanely complex rules and institutions from totally unrelated text.
"In my early 30's."
Are you a pervert?
Are you a serial killer?
Just wondering.
Nate
Uhmm Thanks, I think.
Res, 10 years ago I was getting my driver's permit!
No problem Gregg. Hey.. ya know I ain't no Catholic... lots of things with the faith that I just can't roll with. I mean.. I'm sorry buddy.. but indulgences? Are ya kiddin' me? Buyin' your way into Heaven?
That alone is enough for me to walk.
But I still have a great deal of respect for the Catholic Church.. it's members and its historical place.
The NOW NAGS would NOT be pissed. They would buy them for themselves.
ARRGH!
Buy your way into heaven huh? Interesting ignorance. But I will go with that, if that's all you got. I don't want to argue faith's, I will just take notice.
I am more interested in doctors that come by. My doctor prescibed a narcotic for sleep, which is very addictive, matter fact the insurance will only pay for 30 days out of the year because of this. So I told him no after his warnings, and I am taking Benadryl. I just too 6 tablets, 150 mg, and if I don't go to sleep in an hour I will take 50 more. Is there any health risk to this? From what I have seen on the internet, the answer is no. Apreciate any advice.
Gregg
I'll see that DrWho gets the message.
As for indulgences Gregg.. are you denying that it was practiced, and is still practiced today?
Gregg, my (doctor) wife said that too much Benadryl can cause heart arrythmias, but she's too tired right now to look up what the danger dose is.
She also said there is a new sleep drug, nonaddictive, which has been FDA approved for longterm use called Lunestra. She also says that an antidepressant called Trazidone in low doses is very good, also nonaddictive.
She said and then repeated, "Tell him to talk to his doctor about what he's doing." She's serious about that. Especially if you have liver damage the drug might not metabolise normally.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/...then/
07783a.htm
Gregg.. I suggest you follow that link. Its to a pro-catholic website. it is attempting to defend the practice of indulgences. After studying it, I found it to be a most condemning arguement against the practice.
No sir.. blame it on something.. but not ignorance.
It is to a guy.
No it isn't. Just ask any guy who isn't getting any if mastubation is the same as having sex.
And for the record. I do not approve of Vox looking at porn, nor would I approve of an android that does everything around the house including my husband. What then, is my job? And I'm not just talking about sex. That being said. I'm usually the first one to point out the hot girls to Vox when we are out or watching a movie. We mostly agree, but not always as we have slightly different tastes in women 
"Res, 10 years ago I was getting my driver's permit!"
Heck darling in AR you'd been an old maid, course we ain't cousins or brother and sister so it wouldn’t have been a legal marriage.
"What then, is my job?"
Sex with an android would simply be elaborate masturbation. No different than a chick with a sybian.
As for your job... it would be the same as it ever was. you'd just have help.
Much like women of the OT.
HMMM...
If an android could do complex tasks like housework and sex, they could also do farming, marketing, lawyering, day caring, teaching, truck driving or all manner of assembly line work.
None of us would be needed.
What if the android had interchangeable "parts" and had "stud" mode as well as "hot pant" programming? Would women think it was more acceptable then?
"What if the android had interchangeable "parts" and had "stud" mode as well as "hot pant" programming? Would women think it was more acceptable then?"
Women have had them for decades. The idea that men could have them is just hitting an insecure spot.
Women have a monopoly on sex, and its the source of the enormous power they wield.
Losing it is righty terrifying to them.
Yes we still have indulgences, but we don't pay people to pray, if that's what you mean. I have to accept purgatory as part of the faith, I try not to get into arguments defending it, because it just too inflamitory. I saw the artcile you read,, it was a very poor explanation of basis, I'll give you a better link if I can find it again.
Here
http://www.catholic.com/library/...y/
purgatory.asp
And Here
http://www.jimmyakin.org/2005/
03...uy_who_did.html
"Women have had them for decades. The idea that men could have them is just hitting an insecure spot.
Women have a monopoly on sex, and its the source of the enormous power they wield.
Losing it is righty terrifying to them."
Very true. I figure women would appreciate this sort of invention. Women are always complaining about how men hit on them all the time in public places.
If every man could get all the sex he wants with a vast variety of androids. Hell, the poor guys would be worn out after havin' ten girl orgies every night of the week!
They wouldn't even be botherin' with real women. I imagine a scenario where men stop needing sex from real women, too much trouble, too much rejection from women. And the singles bars are empty with no men, men stop opening doors for women, etc.
Virtural reality sex making women as sexually beings virtually irrelevant?
I wonder...
Still is good news for the geeks out there havin' trouble gettin' a good lookin' woman.
Gregg,
Indulgences are not about paying people to pray...
They are about people giving the church money in return for special favors... for example...
If you go to Rome, you give the church some money... then you say a prayer on each of several steps... then the church tells you that so-and-so relative of yours in now released from purgatory.
Frankly... it's sickening. its selling salvation.
Ya'll should take a look at the following website(s), if you are interested in robotics and their potential.
I have been reading some of this guys stuff for the past couple of years, Marshall Brain. He started off writing those "How stuff works..." books. Some of his information/theories I think he is right on, but not everything.
I have seen some of the stuff he has predicted happening, some of it not (yet at least).
But over time I can see something like this coming about or at least happening enough to effect the economy, etc.
(The Day household, now using a Roomba is a very simple example)
If you are interested read the following to get more of a background about what his premise is all about.
Robotic Nation FAQ
Robotic
Nation
The next two links are in the next comment, had to break them up as Haloscan only allows so many links in a comment.
Give his online short story Mana a read too, nice and fun.
You can find his blog as a link off one of the above pages.
Robots in 2015
Robotic Freedom
Gregg, I'm not backing down. There are just some things that I cannot comment on. I still wouldn't like the idea of *my* guy doing an android.
While the argument can be made that it is just an elaborate form of masterbation, at the same time it is an imitation of a real woman. It is very much different from masterbation in that sense. I think of this android the same way as I think of porn, come to think of it.
Well, I agree with Nate on one thing at least. Indulgences suck.
"Frankly... it's sickening. its selling salvation."
There! There! There lies the disconnect. Release from purgatory is not selling salvation, a person who has made it into purgatory is by definition already saved. The grace gained by indulgence is but a remission of the suffering otherwise in store for them during their purgation. A work of mercy.
"A work of mercy."
Isn't that what Christ did for us when He died on the cross?
Cause I mean, if what he did on the cross didn't take care of all of us totally I guess I had better start dropping in some coins to the penance box.
"If you go to Rome, you give the church some money... then you say a prayer on each of several steps... then the church tells you that so-and-so relative of yours in now released from purgatory."
Where did you hear that lie. Indulgences have rules, none of them involve money. For instance. Go to confession, got to mass, say certain prayers, that's it.
"While the argument can be made that it is just an elaborate form of masterbation, at the same time it is an imitation of a real woman."
IMO, this would come down to an argument of... is masturbation a sin or not.
I think what could become wrong with "having sex with an android" would be that some/many people would forsake real relationships for an android. I mean, what real person can compete with a robot that is perfectly shaped, does exactly what you tell it and tells you exactly what you want to hear?
Give it 20-30 years and we'll probably have something like this not only taking the place of the blow up doll but of the real girlfriend as well.
Off topic
Nate you wanna laugh your ass off. I did this once to a cop, but he just got stuck, nothing like this.
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/845/
Anybody else notice how the phrase “elaborate form of masturbation” and archaic practices of Roman Catholicism just seem to come together in this thread?
Sorry Gregg. It was a cheep shot, but it was to easy not to pass up.
I would expect no less from you RES.
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