"She was desperate to prove that women were logical and clear thinking..."
Hahahahaha... Oh, man, that was funny right there.
Listen, I have a question. Can a Jew give up being Jewish? I mean, you can leave Christianity, or whatever, but since one is born a Jew, isn't that a little like trying to give up being black, or Italian or something?
See, what I don't understand is, when you choose to live by behavior that is totally against the moral code you also vow to live by withing your chosen religion, why is it that the religion isn't given up by these folks? I mean, if you can't "give up" being a Jew I understand, but what about those who claim to be gay Christians and the like. It makes no sense.
It makes a little more sense with Christianity. I can't imagine Jesus being intolerant of gays because he had a peculiar habit of hanging with sinners. The only ones who drove him to anger were the "thieves" in Temple.
Judaism is another story since leaders are commanded to stone gays to death. I wonder how that is reconciled in modern times. You don't hear about many stonings anymore.
There weren't just commanded to kill the homos dude. If you encountered a homo, and you did not kill him, you yourself were to be killed.
Pretty drastic I would say.
Perhaps claiming to be Jewish, or any religion besides Christian, offers these people double retorical protection. At the moment they are challenged they feel able to fall back on your 'hatred' of them because of their religion and their chosen lifestyle.
Funny, claiming to be a gun-toting, whiskey drinking, red-blooded American male doesn't offer me triple or even double retorical protection. Hmmm.
The best answer I've found on what a Jew is, after lots of research: It ain't blood: "Matthew 3:9 - And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." and the Bible lays out rules for how a foreigner can become a Jew. The official definition is "A follower of the God of Abraham."
John 5:23 - That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Therefore, in order to be a follower of the God of Abraham, you must accept His Son. Only Christians are Jews. And don't think I'm talkin about replacement theology. Many descendants of Abraham are Christian, and many more will accept the Messiah. We non-Semites are the adopted children, not the original heirs.
If the two lesbians offered the rabbi a threesome after he married them, well, tough choice I say.
However, he still has no authority to marry them and perhaps the lesbian on Vox's blog was making it up--there is no way a real rabbi would do this in the name of Judaism. Perhaps he did because he has secular authority (JoP, notary, etc)
Reformed Judaism is the name ofr Judaism that rejects all Jewish (God's) law. It's Judaism for non-believing Jews. ANything goes. She specifically said it was a reformed rabbi - no surprise at all.
If the two lesbians offered the rabbi a threesome after he married them, well, tough choice I say.
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Jim | 09.21.05 - 11:57 am | #
Whoa now! Have you considered what this chick must look like?
I shudder to even contemplate it. For some reason most of us hear "lesbian" and have flashbacks to the old porno days (I no longer have those days, but I remember them). But folks, that ain't reality. While I know there are many good looking lesbians out there, the vast majority that I have met are not.
So it might not be so difficult for the good rabbi to turn down the 2 on 1.
I can't recall who said the below rough paraphrase, I believe it was Michael Medved;
The problem with modern Jews is that they think their identity is in rejecting Jesus as the messiah, the same as the atheists do. What they should realize is that what makes them Jewish is not rejecting Jesus as the messiah, but rather their embrace of the Torah.
Clint--perhaps, but my last wintess to a lesbian act was fascinating--this is 100% true:
A few weeks ago, I was sitting in a McDonalds parking lot, eating my Number 2 Value meal (Quarter pounder with cheese, fries, and a soda) and it was raining really hard--major downpour, you could barely see out the windows.
Anyway, a little Suzuki jeep pulls into a spot next to me. A few minutes later, I look over and I see a couple making out, they then recline their seats down so they are almost flat.
I can barley see one of the occupants getting on top of the other--then a shirt comes off. For about the next 15 minutes, all I can see is the little jeep shaking and occasional head bobbing, legs flying up in the air, etc. Like i said, it was a downpour, and the windows were getting all foggy on the jeep.
It finally stops raining, and the two occupants get out of the jeep and start walking into the McDonalds and they were two of the hottest chicks you have ever seen, probably about 20 years old--I had no idea they were both chicks until they got out of the car.
Even most people raised as Catholics will still identify themselves as such, even though they don't believe. I worked for many years for a Jewish family and while they went through all the motions I didn't get the feeling they were believers, but more Jews by habit, celebrating the High Holy days and other holidays much in the same way the many atheists still celebrate Christmas and many "Christians" go to church twice a year.
That being said, to torment the husband, I would read the personal ads to him when they got home from their date night. Of course, I would only read the SJM seeking same ads! His wife and I thought his reaction was very amusing!
You have a mild sadistic streak haven't you Miss Bunny.
Nate, are you sure this wasn't just a bad joke??
"Jewish Lesbians..."
I actually knew one...and an attractive one at that. I'm not sure she was 'full-time'...maybe just a dabbler. She seemed to have a lot of trouble making up her mind.
The point: There is no point. I just felt the need to chip in...I can't begin to compete with Jim.
Welldigger, few have described it as mild. Now, I generally hide it very well, but Vox finds it very amusing at times.
Ask me again why I refuse to live in a city.
Because you might get attacked by a gang of Jewish lesbians?
All last night I was wondering if this jewish lesbo chick was black, a multiple amputee, dwarf, with a speech impediment, and a shaved head.
Jim,
No doubt there are some attractive ones out there. I just read this last week that the numbers of females who at least dabble with lesbianism is growing quickly. So surely some are good looking.
But most I have seen don't fit the bill. There is one here in Estonia that I studied the bible with and she would curl your toenails. It wasn't hard to figure out why she couldn't get a man...
Billy D asks, "Can a Jew give up being Jewish?
Yes: by becoming a Christian. Ask any Jew.
Back in college, my only exposure to Judaism being the O.T., I asked a Judaism professor - after class - if Israel has a death penalty for homosexuality. I dont know if he was surprised more by my question or the PleaseSayYesPleaseSayYes look on my face, but his answer ruined my day.
"Because you might get attacked by a gang of Jewish lesbians?"
Oh, Nate would love that.
"All last night I was wondering if this jewish lesbo chick was black, a multiple amputee, dwarf, with a speech impediment, and a shaved head."
Again, I almost blew Coke out my nose.
Speaking of dwarfs... I was in Starbucks today and there was a midget Starbucks worker. Just like a real Starbucks worker, only smaller, ya know.
She was re-stocking some stuff in the fridge section.
I turned after paying for my Extra Caramel Caramel Macchiato and sort of turned into her cause I didn't notice her, oddly enough, and I said, "Oh Hi, whats up?"
She just stared at me and said, "You are lucky I don't bite one of your balls."
She just stared at me and said, "You are lucky I don't bite one of your balls."
MR | 09.22.05 - 2:45 am | #
You should have said, "you are lucky I don't squish you like a bug."
or maybe, "you are lucky I don't kick you into next week."
I mean its not like you asked her to become a speed bump...
Midgets should wear bells, like a cat, lest one of us twist an ankle.
homosexuality is still a capital offence in Jamaica...
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