But hey, why do in one mouseclick what you can do 45?
Beats the hell outta me. Sometimes it will take a comment....sometimes it just disappears.
"Lord of the Luddites. "
Oh, hell yeah !
Nate: "...you have a comment system that is supposed to allow all sorts of cross referencing so you can easily find comments from commenters and specific subject matter. Great. Except of course...
...that feature is only useful if all the other blogs also convert to the same commenting system.
Or am I misunderstanding the nature of the cross-commenting feature? Is it only applicable to comments on the same blog?
Lord of the Luddites
Long Live Los Luddites!
WB
believe it or not it mines Haloscan as well. When I log into my ComiComment page it shows my haloscan comments here, as well as my comi comments on VD's blog.
It's not mining what I've said on haloscan
Is going through all this crap really worth it?
There are lots more important things that could be done.
So I'm special then? odd...
also, cocomment is a gay name.
So I'm special then? odd...
Of course you are.
Plus cocomment seems to be designed to facilitate hairbraiding.
http://hotforwords.cocomment.com/
Hot for words? Check out coComment on April 10 where Marina from HotForWords will be interviewing the trendy and the technophiles at the Geek Goes Chic event.
Check out the interviews, add your comments, and try to become the teacher's pet as Marina will test your knowledge.
See if you have the beauty and brains to outsmart the party guests and offer the correct answers on the site.
Remember, commenting is sexy...
Perhaps Vox has been compromised. They have replaced him with a government agent. In that case it is your own faults for registering for their program. When they send your brochure for the special summer camps are you going to sign up for that too? I hear Guantanamo is nice this time of year...
Cue the scary music.
I for one welcome our new ComiComment overlords.
Nate: "believe it or not it mines Haloscan as well."
So, there is indeed method to the madness...
WB,
It only mines registered user comments.. and even then it does it half-assed.
Josh reported it wasn't mining his.. and I believe I've commented here a few times that its missed as well.
Its just crap.
I didn't do any of that cocomment stuff. And I ain't gonna register either.
I'm with Josh, Vox should be tired of this by now.
Lots of bitching about it can either get me banned, or that stuff will be canned. Or both, that's not my call.
Nate, did you link up you cocomment account with your blog or technorati accounts or haloscan account?
That might explain it if you did.
I linked nothing Josh.
Hmmm, that's just weird then.
Great, now the stupid system's farting up again.
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Nate: "believe it or not it mines Haloscan as well."
So that means bloggers that have haloscan can have their comments mined ? What in hell is up with that ?
Ya'll please pardon my denseness...but how the heck do you use it if you DON'T register with it?
VD seems to think you can.. but I don't see how. Its to much of a pain in the ass. The comments only show up half the time. Its way more consistant if you register and go to the comicomment site
Clay, I am not registered, either; I just type in my usual handle in the Username text box. The registration is only required if you want to take advantage of the datamining "benefit".
I tried an experiment posting a comment as NateDammit; it showed up, but did not show Nate's icon as a registered user...and I'm quite certain it will not show up in his mined comments, either.
But you can't comment on the comicom site.
Nate: " The comments only show up half the time. Its way more consistant if you register and go to the comicomment site"
As I posted on the other thread, I had a difficult time posting earlier on Vox' site, as it kept coming up with a javascript error every time I clicked Submit. Whatever the cause was, it is gone now and I have seen every comment I posted appear.
I have done it all from Vox' site, without going to the coComment site.
It still sucks as it has been implemented; but as Vox has already clarified, this is not the final format.
Josh: "But you can't comment on the comicom site."
Don't need to.
YOu don't need to comment from the comicom site.. but it would be WAY more convienent that it is now.
Another really annoying thing is clicking individual bars to read individual comments, If you do it too fast it takes it as a double click, which takes you to the commiecomment site, and when you hit the back button, your place is lost.
What are the postives of this comicom system supposed to be?
ummmmm... ummm....
I have no idea.
The biggest one is ostensibly a cross-referenced comment database that includes disparate commenting systems like coComment and HaloScan (and others to come later?), which allows commenters to track their conversations and follow which threads they are commenting on at one location: the coComment site.
This alone is insufficient to get me to register, as I do not partake in so many simultaneous conversations to the extent it makes tracking them overly difficult.
Another benefit is the ability to search the comment database without pulling up disparate threads from mulitple sites, something that I admit would occasionally be handy. Again, though, it still isn't enough to get me to register.
There are a few minor useability features that may not currently be implemented in HaloScan (like blockquotes actually working), but none of these seem to require registration either.
Its My Space for commenting.
Its horrible.
which allows commenters to track their conversations and follow which threads they are commenting on at one location: the coComment site.
That would make sense IF you could comment directly from the commie comment site, which you can't.
If you register with CoComment, there is a 1,000,000% greater chance that you will get abducted, molested, and raped.
Gosh, I hate agreeing with you, Nate. But I do. This is just hideous. What an abortion.
I suspect Vox wants to cut down on commenting, as so many retards comment there now. Wheat from the chaff, and all that.
I told SB I'm boycotting until it improves. I don't need the aggravation.
And Vox cares about as much as I do.
Its an uncomfortable situation... no question. Earlier the wretch that is PrettyLady was agreeing with me as well...
That fact alone caused me to rethink my entire position on the matter.
Never the less... its like 2+2... its so obviously true that even bitter enemies must agree.
If Vox persists, he might unite the whole world against cocomment. World Peace!
Eh, I think I'll just hang out here till it's time for the VPFL to kick up again, if ya don't mind...
no problem dude... just be advised... if you have a thing for Pinot Noir you best keep it to yourself.
Or just blame it on your mom...
I still don't see what's wrong with Pinot Noir, unless it's something to do with the movie "Sideways." Granted, it's not a complex wine, but I would say that any number of white wines are more wine.
Or just blame it on your mom...
Ok, it's settled.
I'll blame it on your mom.
Seriously though, not a wine guy, though there are decent wines out there.
At least it ain't Glenlivet or Bushmills.
Or, Heaven forbid, Phillips Union.
You don't understand...
I am a wine guy. I love wine. I love red wine... I love white wine... I particularly love boxed wine.
What I hate.. is the trendy nature of Pinot Noir. When someone knows nothing about wine but wants to appear that they do... they invariably say they like Pinot Noir.
Drives me batshit.
And yes... to some extent I blame that stupid movie.
Boxed wine? That destroys the credibility you've never had. Pinot is wonderful (the right year and vintage and winery) and a good Merlot is even better. The only white wine worth drinking is Gevertz de Veimeraner (I'm not going to look up the correct spelling) and then only from the Napa Valley. MAYBE Sundial Chardonnay.
No Reisling???? Cellarmasters Reisling from Oregon... good stuff. And what about the eastern european whites?
As for boxed wine... plain and simple fact.. Boxes area superior method of delivery. No light. No air.
All wine should come in a box.
Perhaps I can regain some credibility... 2002 Charles Krug Cabernet Savignon. Try it. Its a staple.
Sonoma County Gallo is the only white.
I don't get it... what's wrong with Reisling?
In a past life I coded a really nice commenting sort of system for an internal website. I used Oracle as the back-end, the whole thing was written in PL/SQL running on an Oracle Web Application Server. It took me about a week to code it. The default was "sort by thread" (it used threaded comments), you could also sort by user, users could set the system to sort by post date (both forward and reverse sort, and the dates WORKED), and you could also sort by keyword. And you could search by any combination of these fields. I modeled it after the Agent newsgroup reader, the thing looked a whole lot like the old Usenet groups - this was by design. The big problem with my system is that it was limited to 500 characters per comment (by concatenating two fields), but I believe the limit would be 4000 characters today. Commenting systems have been designed time and time again, the formula for success is well-known, I don't know why people ignore it.
IMHO, I think the major problem is that these things are written using these stupid "freeware" "databases" as the back-end, and developed in stupid "freeware" "development" tools. IMHO.
Bane: "Gevertz de Veimeraner (I'm not going to look up the correct spelling)"
I'm guessing you are referring to Gewurtztraminer, but I'm not certain you might mean something else entirely...?
CabSav is like drinking Elven menstrual fluids. Gallo is for winos. And yes, all of the best vintners put their wine in giant condoms. Ever note the low alcohol content? Ever wonder why?
Oregon wines ar girly. Too sweet. I live here, within a few miles of several wineries, and I never bothered. When I lived in St Helena, the wife and I winery-crawled nearly every weekend.
So, when is Vox going to fix his shit, so I don't have to hang amongst rednecks who age their wines on the car seat on the way home?
This is agony.
Quityerbitchin'
I've spent 40 bucks on a bottle of vinegar labeled as wine one to many times dude. Cork failure is a pet peeve.
As for the Cellarmasters.. it is sweet... if that's not your thing I can't argue. I like it. Deal with it.
Fact is... I don't want merlot with blackend chickened alfredo. I want something like that Reisling.
On the other hand... I don't want a sweet wine with my mostly raw hunk of cow... I want a classic red merlot or CabSav.
Bane... you're a just a contrarian old fart lookin' to complain somewhere. Just so you know... this place is as good as any.
Give 'em hell.
Bane,
Chevrolet makes 999 models of shit cars, but they also make a Corvette.
Sonoma County Reserve Chardonnay
I don't get it... what's wrong with Reisling?
I love Riesling.
What I hate.. is the trendy nature of Pinot Noir. When someone knows nothing about wine but wants to appear that they do... they invariably say they like Pinot Noir.
Yeah, I can dig that.
I like Pinot Noir okay, but it's not something that I'll get jazzed about.
And like I said, it's one of the simpler wines out there, so people who get all worked up about it are bullshitting.
Here you go.
For y'all wannabe faggot wine snoots:
http://www.gallosonoma.com/
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I don't think that most $40 wines are worth it.
There's lots of good wines out there for $15/bottle or less.
I just got back from vox' and clikcked on one of EP's comments. I was transported to some myspace teenage girl lookin' giggling circle. I feel soiled.
I refuse to participate.
Quick JAC, unbraid your hair!
Just for kicks, I checked out vox's with IE.
I clicked expand or contract, and everything disappeared except the left column of stuff.
Oh cool, IE just shut down.
Worthless product...
I like muscadine wine myself. And since my brother makes it, don't cost me nothing.
Reminds me of my favorite kind of beer.
Free beer.
If I pay more than $15 dollars for a bottle of wine, it better come with a damn good blowjob.
Bane,
Barring actually her gnawing on it, I consider any insertion into a females oral cavity "good", i.e. If a chick has your dick in her mouth, you've had worse days.
So,
a if she just licked around the head a bit that would be OK with a $15 bottle wine.
$40 bottle? Deep throat. Play in it. Swallow. Don't clean it up.
"If you register with CoComment, there is a 1,000,000% greater chance that you will get abducted, molested, and raped."
Personal experience?
"its like 2+2"
I doubt Pretty Lady agrees with even that. Damn Buddhists.
Riesling is great. So few white wines are, but the Germans know their white wine. Cabernet Sauvignon is great. Nothing wrong with Merlot. Pinot Noir is good. Going to the gas station and drinking some ethanol is pretty fun too.
Dude... you don't need a 40 dollar bottle of wine for all that. All ya need is a 5 dollar bottle of Beringer White Zinfendel.
Call me a liar.
"Hey baby," holding up bottle of wine, "swallow this." She drinks it in about an hour. "Ok, now swallow this."
I'm trying to find out if anyone has tried accessing Vox's blog with a palm/ Treo. I can access haloscan with it but can't even view comments in cocomment.
One of the few wines I can't stand is White Zin.
Josh... testosterone is known to negatively react to white zif.
Nebo,
I don't have a Treo.. but I have a Cingular 8525 which is slightly superior... and runs windows mobile. The sight is a complete cluster fuck on it.
I have a Treo 750 with Windows Mobile. The original posts look ok, but no access to comments. I'm working in a slow rural ER with web access set to uberblocker. Treo with G3 let me read something more interesting than MSN homepage.
So far, I'm not a fan of VD's new commenting system.
Nebo,
have you tried yahoo's conversion tool? it tries to convert webpages so they are viewable with a handheld.
Never heard of it, will try it though.
By the way, loved Red Letter Day.
Hey, it's not my fault, I hate it at least as much as you all, probably more, plus I've been going round and round with the author of that blog about it.
I have been assured it will get better, I'm dubious. Supposedly when all is said and done there will only be a line that says how many comments there are that you can click on to take you to a new page that has the post and the comments (in expanded form?) - like LL's site perhaps? The comments will be date stamped and all of that fun stuff.
We'll see.
Not a fan of reislings - too sweet. I do love a good Pinot Grigio or for a sparkling white I prefer a prosecco over most champagnes. Reds - barolo, merlot, chianti (not the stuff in the straw-covered bottles, but the good stuff). Of course living in wine country means I pay next to nothing for really good wine most of which never makes it to your shores.....
Of course living in wine country means I pay next to nothing for really good wine most of which never makes it to your shores.....
Yeah, rub it in why don't you...
One of my biggest irritations about this new system(and they are myriad) is that when you comment and hit submit it refresh the entire page and you are left wondering where in the hell you are!
Yeah, I hate that too.
You get bumped down several posts--that's REALLY annoying.
It's MySpace for commenting.
It sucks.
"Supposedly when all is said and done there will only be a line that says how many comments there are that you can click on to take you to a new page that has the post and the comments (in expanded form?"
Wordpress already does this. I am quite happy with it.
Another wine drinker here, but the stuff I drink would most likely put y'all in a diabetic coma. I guess my palate's not developed enough.
Riesling whites and grape juice reds. I'd buy in boxes for the preservation purposes, but I can find nothing sweet enough.
My biggest bitch about cocomment is that I cannot post or even SEE comments here at work.
MM: "...the stuff I drink would most likely put y'all in a diabetic coma."
As with my wife. Her favorite is porto; I can feel my blood sugar spiking if I even sniff the cork.
Since I prefer drier, around our house it's a twenty minute job selecting a wine for dinner.
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