strange, as soon as she said that she was going to 'name names' I had a feeling Palfrey was going to end up "killing herself".

The question is:

Was she smart enough to take precautions in such as event as this?
tamar | 05.02.08 - 1:11 am | #

Truthfully, when I heard that she had been convicted and faced up to 50 years in prison, I felt that she may opt out. That is basically a life sentence for a 56 year old woman.
While we are talking conspiracies...Steve, what do you make of the Sonny Bono/murder story?
D.P. | 05.02.08 - 1:43 am | #

What about Brandy Britton who reportedly worked for her and committed... suicide by hanging!

http://www.examiner.com/a- 714063...ed_for_her.html

What a coincidence. I'm not drawing any conclusions, just asking questions and noting coincidences. Wonder if there was any signs of a struggle or DNA up under and of those twenty deftly-manicured fingernails.
KingCast | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 7:17 am | #

Occam's Razor.
Trench Reynolds | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 8:01 am | #

Yup. Y'all get to shavin'.
Steve Huff | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 8:05 am | #

A 55 year old woman, facing 50 years in prison, having said that she'd never go back to prison, depressed, broke, no home, staying with her mother in a trailer???? Yep, no conspiracy, she committed suicide.
Soobs | 05.02.08 - 8:45 am | #

And she may well have. But you gotta say it sure is a coincidence what with Brandy too because hanging is not exactly a typical death of choice for women...... it's like 10-15%

http://www.nisu.flinders.edu.au/...lletin23- 3.html

Food for thought.
KingCast | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 9:06 am | #

I dunno. I first saw that story yesterday, and my reaction was, "SURE she suicided, SURE she did."

Of course, that was right after I read the Sonny Bono story, too. Palfrey's being a hit is far more likely than Bono's was.

Wasn't she the one who threatened to expose her "black book" clients if they didn't help her? Or am I misremembering?
Chris | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 11:22 am | #

oh, and the Sonny Bono story is here:
http:// investigation.discovery.c...sonny_bono.html

In Cold Blog had an entry on it this past week, too.
Chris | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 11:30 am | #

Chris, as you know I know I too believe in taking a second look at things. And just as it seems to be one hella-coincidence that these two women would commit suicide by hanging, it sure seems one that both Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono would expire of the same causes in the same week at Tahoe.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=c...clnk&cd=7& gl=us

Now Kennedy I can believe he was out there playing around and effed-up and I believe there were witnesses who were friends. Bono allegedly did this alone? I hit a tree once while snowboarding at a low rate of speed and it left tree abrasions on my jeans and a busted mcl

http://i32.photobucket.com/album.../ Picture165.jpg

....yet there were no such tree abrasions on Sonny Bono at a much higher rate of speed? Spare me. You've always got to look at the forensic evidence in ANY CASE before you draw a conclusion, no matter how much research to must conduct or how hard you have to fight the government to get it:

http://christopher-king.blogspot...lly- ayotte.html

My $.02
KingCast | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 12:39 pm | #

Anybody care for some Reynolds Wrap? I hear it makes a nice hat.
Trench Reynolds | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 1:12 pm | #

People who think Sonny Bono couldn't have suffered those injuries on a ski slope clearly don't ski. Every season in Montana at least one skier ends up dead the very same way. (They are often the rising stars in the skiing milieux.)

What's more improbable to me is that Sonny Bono was skiing at all.

As for Palfrey... while hanging is not among the most popular methods of suicide, wouldn't you think it would be even less popular for a form of murder. (There must be stats on this.)

I can understand why she wouldn't choose to go on given her circumstances, even if that wouldn't be my choice of methods.

I don't remember, was there a note?
Larkin | 05.02.08 - 1:16 pm | #

Larkin - supposedly, there were two notes. I wonder if there is anything more known about contents and location of notes.
Monika | 05.02.08 - 1:44 pm | #

Larkin,

Lynchings were murder, and they used hanging. It was a popular form of execution, remember. So it's not too outlandish as a form of murder.

King, forensic evidence -- especially evidence being quoted by said conspiracy hypothesist writing on an entertainment TV channel's website -- can be twisted around to mean any thing the conspiracy hypothesist wants it to mean, especially if it means higher ratings & publicity. *Especially* when the hypothesist isn't talking to the people or reviewing the evidence himself, but relying on other folks' interpretations of it. Please note that the "Globe" that is quoted in the article is the tabloid paper, hardly a reliable source of information (claiming that "US news sources are covering it up" is a favorite dodge of conspiracy hypothesists). And all his "news sources" are Australian...over a US Crime? Shyah.

Look at the Bono article. The people writing this article & proposing this hypothesis aren't also dead-by-hit... why? Specifically Bob Fletcher, who supposedly sent Bono the incriminating information. If he truly believes Bono was a hit because of the evidence that Mr. Fletcher *had*, I hope he's gone deep into hiding, instead of volunteering for public interviews.

The kicker was the final comment about the US Government retaliating due to Bono's disapproval of Reno over the Waco debacle. Yeah. If the government was really fashed about disapproval of Reno, they'd've gone after every NPR editorialist in the country, too.
Chris | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 1:53 pm | #

Palfrey was an interesting person and she definitely had an interesting (read "unique" take on life. When her story first broke, I looked at what appeared to be a web page listing for the DC agency. There was an email address and I emailed her, something mildly sympathetic along the lines of much ado about nothing. She responded, something about being a person of taste and sensitivity or being a person that handled things with taste and sensitivity...I don't remember exactly, but I do remember thinking "that's a real "F*&# YOU" for whoever's monitoring her email. I’ll have to look back in my archives…I may still have it somewhere.

Of course there’s no guarantee it was her that responded, but I still found it interesting.
alyn | 05.02.08 - 2:04 pm | #

Chris

Yah, I had hit send before I commented on the notion that it seems odd that the guy who allegedly got Bono killed is walking around like a bad ass now..... what a mess. And you can't even trust the government's coroners reports either because in the Franconia case the coroner said Liko had a "faint orange residue" from OC Spray but the first cop on the scene, who I have personally met, wrote that his face was ALL ORANGE ALL OVER and he confirmed that in person. It is a dangerous nasty World that much is certain if nothing else.
KingCast | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 3:20 pm | #

No,hangings aren't the usually M.O. for a female suicide....but she probably didn't have any pills that would do the trick. And overdoses aren't perfect, you can be "saved" quickly, even if you have lasting effects. Recently, a former television reporter in our state (she worked several stations) was found hanged, suicide, presumably because of financial and criminal problems she was going through. It isn't unheard of.

http://tinyurl.com/4tz85g

There were three police agencies that responded when they figured out who she was....do you honestly think that THREE LE agencies could keep their mouths shut? There were at least two notes left, and some papers in a book, and she waited until her mother napped. She was facing a LOT of time (life for her) in federal prison, where there is no parole, and was flat-out bankrupt. We'll soon know if she mailed her little black book to anyone, but it could just be that this was more than she could handle.

I do feel horrible for her mother, having to find her.
Soobs | 05.02.08 - 3:39 pm | #

That really sucks on Suzanne. But I've heard tell of folks go through bogus embezzlement charges and losing directorship of a good nonprofit for children.

In fact I've heard tell of such persons doing this with virtually no money, losing their apartment and moving in with their sister, then losing their old motorcycle and car, waiting tables, and doing it all without a beautiful family or house, of their own, yet keeping that chin up.

Just sayin'.
KingCast | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 7:50 pm | #

The embezzlement charges were the last or latest in a long line of decline for her, obviously. And she was working until the day the charges were filed.
Soobs | 05.02.08 - 9:27 pm | #

Hi Soobs, two things: One, she apparently unfortunately succumbed to pressures she brought upon herself, of her own free will and apparently the extortion charges had some merit. As such it's like Baretta (who I guess must not have done the crime, yah) don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Two, contrast that plight with someone who is truly innocent. I think consensus has it that it's more understandable to go nuts in the second example than the first =^.)

Doesn't make me The Man, merely reinforces the notion that communities of people like this, who banded together to help me prove the Truth can still have an impact and that's why we're here. As I say ain't none of us should show up here to merely fight for victim space. Stole that one from an interview with Jonathan Kaufman in a 1990 or so interview when he wrote Troubled Alliance: Turbulent Times Between Black and Jews in America (he told me originally it was "Civil War Between.....) Anywhoozer, its a Great Read.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p- ...91_Grubach.html
KingCast | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 9:57 pm | #

As far as her being scared of SDPD and SDCSO when she was arrested in San Diego, look up Donna Gentile's murder and the 45 or more murders that happened in the mid to late 80's. At that time and still it was VERY believable that deputies and or police officers were involved.
greenbean | 05.02.08 - 11:09 pm | #

From post: "Did one of those powerful people seek to shut her down once and for all?

Or is that exactly what she might want us to think?"

That's what I think. I think in some way her choice of suicide was chosen as a way to make people at least wonder. I could be wrong of course. I think this is pretty darn cut and dry. If she had been found somewhere away from the home, I'd be able to bite the murder scenario just a bit, but she had good reason to be suicidal. I think she also chose hanging because it was quick enough to kill her while mom napped, since pills would have taken longer and she may have been saved. I think she also thought a gun was noisy and she may not have had access to one, besides the fact that women typically die with vanity intact and don't want their faces messed up.

It's incredibly selfish to do this to her mother. Desperately selfish. People who are hanged are disfigured in disturbing ways, (referring to the abnormal extension of the neck), and it is horrible to see. I feel terrible for her mom.

Also, I think the people who think this could be a murder are thinking she was strangled and the hanging was staged, not that she was killed by hanging. Murder by hanging would be very difficult to do w/o some DNA being somewhere from the fighting victim.
Emerson | 05.03.08 - 12:04 am | #

Chris, in re: lynching as murder. Well, of course.

But lynchings were generally undertaken by a group of people in a remote locale, often under cover of darkness. This happened in a shed in a trailer park. If it was a lynching, surely someone would have noticed.

For one (or possibly two) people to murder another through hanging and not leave a whole host of evidence behind seems unlikely.
Larkin | 05.03.08 - 10:39 am | #

"Anybody care for some Reynolds Wrap? I hear it makes a nice hat."

I think the funniest scene in "Signs" is when all three are sitting on the couch, with their tinfoil hats on!
Soobs | 05.03.08 - 11:56 am | #

"It's incredibly selfish to do this to her mother. Desperately selfish. People who are hanged are disfigured in disturbing ways, (referring to the abnormal extension of the neck), and it is horrible to see. I feel terrible for her mom.

Also, I think the people who think this could be a murder are thinking she was strangled and the hanging was staged, not that she was killed by hanging. Murder by hanging would be very difficult to do w/o some DNA being somewhere from the fighting victim."

Amen, my friend.
Soobs | 05.03.08 - 11:58 am | #