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When I try to bring up the xanga blog/profile not only does that browser window spontaneously crash, but the browser window with The True Crime Weblog also crashes. I've tried opening a Yahoo page as a buffer between the two, and still it closed *both* browsers and left the Yahoo page up. Very odd! |
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I had no problem with the Xanga, except his images all showed an Imageshack high bandwidth symbol. What are you using? |
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Win XP IE 6 is all I got. (IE 7 was making problems with some of the sites I visit regularly, I couldn't even load Wikipedia with it, and I should have been able to. Nothing I tried fixed the problems so I un-installed the update for now.) |
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Cool, copying the Xanga link and doing a search for it on Yahoo allowed me to pull up a cached version of the page that didn't crash my browser. That was *WEIRD* though! |
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Here is a link to a forum where locals are discussing the case. Apparently, he left is wallet at home that night. This struck me as odd when I first read about it. Here is a post by one of the people on the forum: |
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I should have read further on the forum before sharing with you guys. Apparently, he took his driver's license (or fake ID??) and some cash. That still seems odd to me, however. Apparently, the situation is odd to some of the responding officers also. From the same link to the forum above: |
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I also think it is a bit odd that your son goes out on Thursday evening, and he isn't reported missing until 1:00 am on 11/5/07 (which is technically Monday morning, right?). Was he in the habit of disappearing like that and not being in touch with his family for 2-3 days? I would totally FREAK if my child came home from college, went out, and I didn't see him for three whole days. Maybe I am odd. |
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My wife and his step-dad are brother and sister. I guess that makes him my nephew. I have been around Justin several times over the past 8 years. He seems like a typical young man. This is a very strange case because he allways notified his parents, and let them know where he was. I dont' know where he may be. He is a great student. The whole problem is: It is not his nature to just disappear. He is very social. He has had no contact with anyone by phone or internet. He has no wallet or money or cell phone charger. Justin had plans to come back home! |
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This situation is a family's worst nightmare! Surely, there has to be a lot of security cameras in the area. Have they been checked? |
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When i got out i rarely take my wallet. I'll usually just carry cash, a debit card and my ID. I don't like walking around with a bulky wallet in my pocket. I know a few people who are the same way. So to me its not very odd. |
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Is this kid gay? From what he's quoted as saying about his interests, maybe not. But then, if he's in the closet, who knows? If it does turn out to be the case, he might have a whole substrata of associates his family and friends know nothing about. |
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Justin's AOL profile: |
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No he's not GAYYY! that's a terrible thing to say. I understand him just taking his (FAKE ID) and some cash, like his "uncle" said. He had plans to go back home.He's not the type to just walk away and not let ANYONE know where he is. I pray everyday for him. I have only met him only a couple times, but when seeing his picture, and all the information about him on the news, my heart SANK! I have been posting announcements on EVERY website I can to try to get people to repost or to respond. I hope he comes home soon! WE MISS HIM VERY MUCH! |
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Tiffany, if you think it's a terrible thing to suggest he's gay, odds are, if he is/was in the closet, you wouldn't know. |
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Tiffany, I don't see why it is a terrible thing to say he might be gay.....am I missing something? Without knowing him, it seems to be a logical question. If he were gay, it could be that he has an entire set of friends and acquaintences that some of his other friends may not be aware of. |
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Tiffany might be the young lady he mentions as his girlfriend, (That he seemed genuinely fond of.) and who appears in some photos with him? It would be terrible to her, because of the deception involved. |
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Thanks, KatK, that makes sense. I sure hope they find this kid, and that he is OK. I just have a bad feeling about this one, however. |
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I lost my best freind in 2003 to s similiar circumstance. i just wathced the interview on FOX news with his parents. i understand how they feel. i am studying cj hope to someday solve my best friends disappearance. this story of how he went missing just doesnt make any sense. |
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I remember seeing Justin, that night. He was either drunk as hell or on some drugs... I was talking to him for a bite, he was all sweating and walking all stubbly. He was on the phone for a good while trying to call people. Last time I seen him was around 1:20am |
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Peter, did he seem capable of walking very far on his own, or did you notice anyone else hanging around him who could have possibly offered him a ride? Since you were there that night, can you share your gut feeling as to where this kid could be? Thanks a bunch. Also.....I suppose you have shared your observations with LE? It is just this kind of information that often leads to other details that eventually become critical to solving this sort of mystery. Thank you for coming forward and sharing. |
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I am really having trouble understanding if he needed a ride and no friends were available, why didnt he call his parents? Im also having trouble understanding why, if he was so "responsible", he wasnt reported missing for 3 days? Something just doesnt seem right with all of this, but I hope it turns out for the good |
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I'm not sure how the investigation process works, but does it not take 48hrs to pass before a report can be filed on a missing person? |
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To my knowledge that was changed years ago "because the first 48 hours are SO important in investigating a missing person case" and everything I find says you do not have to wait, but I cant find anything specific to GA. |
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I just hope all goes well with finding justin...He is my daughter's cousin and she misses him and wants him to come home safely... |
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I think he could of walk a good ways but not very far like back home. He was very delusional when I was talking to him. Wiping his head with both hands very often, and to my knowledge he was with nobody when I was talking to him for the 5-10 minutes. He was playing with his phone most of the time. I really don't know where he could be, since he wasn't really himself that night. |
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he could have been supplied with ex, ex makes u sweat alot as well as talk. |
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Maybe, but I know ex down here is not pure like it used to be and nobody wants to mess with it. Not as popular now these days like before. |
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It is so baffling; I just hope wherever he is, he is ok, and can be found. It is odd to me that nobody knows anything; it is a busy parking lot. Somebody had to see something. |
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Thanks Peter for your insight. I still haven't seen any answers about the video cameras that were surely in place at Wild Bill's. Do they have footage of him leaving with a time stamp? |
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Reannan on the interview it stated that WB only have cameras showing the back of people when they are leaving, they think they saw him (I believe) at 1:50AM leaving, but with that build, those clothes, it is a typical college profile, the think it is him, but not 100% sure. |
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Thanks Susan - I had not seen that. How does a big, healthy guy like him just vanish? If it was an abduction, why, by whom, and how? |
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Your guess is as good as mine. If you get a facebook page, it takes just a minute to set one up. I did it so I could keep tabs on what is going on, but once you set one up, plug in missing Justin Gaines under groups and there is a page his parents are keeping up on. They only thing I can think of is 100% foulplay. I really hate it. |
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I actually installed cameras right across the street from wild bills at the pool room. I did not know he was missing till Monday night, and that Monday morning I reload the server with videos on there. I don't know if there was anything but, I called the the owner at the pool room and he said detective did come buy Tuesday but he told them it was reloaded Monday. I know the korean spa next to the pool room and across the street from wild bills have a pretty good sophisticated system it covers all the parking lot and back of there building... |
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I know that a while back my sister was at Wild Bills when her and the guy she was with were both drugged with a date rape drug. She was taken in her car and raped and they took the guy friend he was with to a parking lot a while away and beat the hell out of him. I saw him about 2 weeks later and he still had some pretty deep wounds, none of this was reported to the police! |
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I know that a while back my sister was at Wild Bills when her and the guy she was with were both drugged with a date rape drug. She was taken in her car and raped and they took the guy friend he was with to a parking lot a while away and beat the hell out of him. I saw him about 2 weeks later and he still had some pretty deep wounds, none of this was reported to the police! |
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Hi ok so I've read all of everyone's comments, and I've known Justin since about the 7th grade. I graduated with him this past May, and talked to him pretty much everyday when he worked up at QT right near my house. I do know that Justin is not gay, but I could see someone could think that without knowing him. I guess you could call him a metrosexual. He is a very outgoing guy and very confident in himself. He is also a very intelligent young man. Justin went to Wild Bills almost every thursday, even when we were still in highschool. I remember when he got his fake ID because he showed me when I was talking to him one day, but as far as I remember it had his picture on there and his name. Now about all of this being odd... Yes, it might be a little off that it took so long for his parents to report him missing. BUT! He is a good kid whether you believe it or not thats up to you. But my point is that his parents were probably extremely worried but still in denial that their own son would be missing... That is why she was calling friends and local hospitals and things like that. Justin also has a few siblings, so trying to stay calm and be optimistic is very key for his mom to do, and I think she is holding it together very well. She is only doing her best and if you all that don't even know him want to criticize her, maybe you should put forth that effort into helping find him rather than just putting others down to make yourself feel better. Justin has a lot of friends and will be very missed if something has tragically happened to him. The seniors of 2007 have been hit with a lot of deaths and I know personally it is so hard and you never think it will happen to you, but it just seems to keep happening to us. First Andrew Sesonov, a freshman when we were juniors was killed in an accident involving a student in our grade. Then Holt Roberts, my brothers late best friend drowned. He graduated in 05 but still knew some people in my grad year. Recently Daniel Peake, the starting quarter back for our football team died in a single vehicle accident. And now Justin is missing. And the other thing about Justin with his "metrosexuality" he would not have gone anywhere without a change of clothes. If he ran off like some of you are saying, like to be gay or whatever, he would have taken his CAR and his WALLET and clothes, a phone charger... I mean come on... think people! he took his ID and some cash with him to go have a good time... stop reading to far into things... So like I said, instead of criticizing this good hearted young man who is in danger and his mother and step dad, use your energy to do better things like HELP LOOK FOR HIM! or tell people about it, hang up flyers... something... but I hope Justin is ok and comes home safely and soon... |
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I live near Wild Bill's and have been there a couple of times, and while the parking area is hopping early in the evening, it is deserted and creepy that late (when he is believed to have left). The whole area near the mall has turned into a high crime area in the last few years. The idea that he attempted to walk home is not realistic, the distances involved are considerable. No one in this area, however impaired, would consider that an option, it is at least 20 miles to Snellville from here. He might have tried to walk to a Waffle House or the IHOP to eat something and scare up a ride. Wild Bill's backs up to Gwinnett Place Mall, new and used car lots, and a couple of wooded areas; and a lot of hotels, including several transient hotels, are nearby. Hopefully the searches included those, and any camera systems further away than the WB parking lot. |
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Jenny I have been praying for Justin and most of us have; please do not let a few idiotic comments represent all of us. |
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Jenny, learn to spell Daniel Peek's name if youre going to use it. |
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I am amazed that anyone could be on here posting negative comments about this missing boy. I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea for the police to question some of those people about where he is. This is a hard time for the family. Please have sympathy and do not post your negative hateful comments. We are praying for a safe return. |
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Please, people who know Justin, don't take comments on here so personally. |
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It's very possible that he was drugged and someone waited for him to exit the bar and take him. If he was THAT regular at WB's and went often by himself, maybe someone was waiting for an opportunity after watching him. |
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Does any of Justin's good friends know f he was in to doing drugs? I am a local teen of Duluth and I have known of Ex being around. Also a lot of other various drugs. I could be possible he over dosed on drugs and some kids were partying with him and he got in a really bad condition and had a seizure. I just really wish some one would come forward! and tell there are so many possibilities. I am thinking worse every day that goes by and he is not found... he could be some where witherng away bc of some kids beating him half to death! It reallly scares me and worries me even more because I live litterally not even 5 min walking distance from wild bills!! |
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This story touches me so deep. I am 22 years old, so I'm still into the partying and nightlife scene. I have been to Wild Bill's as well as surrounding Gwinnett hotspots several even millions of times. I think there is a very high possiblity that he was given a drug perhaps in his drink?! This happened to both me, and a friend I was with in the same night at "Woody's" off of Hwy 78 in Snellville. Also, happened to a friend of mine @ the "Blue Moose" in Snellville. I think the gwinnett area has alot of "date rape" floating around. Apparently someone watched us and knew we were together..and knew they had to drug us both for the plan to work. Thank goodness someone we knew came that night and took us home. We have NO remembrance of anything from that night..other than getting there and drinking a couple shots (not enough to not remember) My friend that took us home said I had a complete blank look on my face that night, and acted like I didn't even know who she was. I pray each and every night they find this boy!! Also, Wild Bill's parking lot is a very creepy place to walk in groups..I couldn't imagine being alone. |
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Sarah was this ever reported to any body? Same thing happened to my sister! but she was taken and so was he! |
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I was so glad when I checked in here to see this story, and to see it being discussed. I live in the Metro Atlanta area, and though I've never been to Wild Bill's, my Husband has (back before we met) and he's told me it can be a pretty rough place at times (we'd talked about this before this young man went missing). |
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This afternoon was the FIRST time I heard mention of Jason being missing, on a national news program (Foxnews.) With him being missing so long, an abduction or foul play certainly is a possibility. However, I am reminded of two specific cases recently (in the last 18 months or so) of two other young men. One was found after he had accidentally driven into a lake after leaving friends after a party. The other was found in an electrical room at his college, again, an accident. Neither had a good outcome, but it wasn't foul play. |
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JUSTIN. I'm so sorry, I don't know why I kept writing "Jason." |
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My heart is breaking for Justin's family ... especially his mom. I have a son -- who played both high school and college football ..He looks amazingly like the pictures of Justin ... piercing blue eyes, buzzed hair, muscular build ... He has been to Wild Bills many times .. beginning when he as 18 (he soon will be 22). |
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I live in Texas and am of no good to any search directly where Justin disappeared but I took interest after seeing the report on Fox. I have said a prayer, and like Bonnie, asking that God send extra guardian angels to Justin's parents and to him wherever he is right now. I, too, am hoping that Justin inadvertently ingested a dose of a drug that disoriented him so much that he lost his way and perhaps, maybe, he's simply fallen in an inaccessible or invisible place that keeps getting overlooked. Remember, there have been several stories recently of people who were feet away from highway traffic but couldn't be seen, yet survived for days and days awaiting rescue. |
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I'm not sure where I was negative in my previous post, I should probably read over it and try to see where I was being negative. I apologize if I offended anyone, I just want Justin to come home safe. I want to get out there and look for him I am just so so busy with school and trying to plan my wedding I don't ever seem to check my facebook or myspace in time to know when the group searches and vigils n things are happening. I am going to try to check things more often and try my best to get out there. And like Alexa said, all these things are possible. It is good that people are giving their input from outside views and things. If Justin was gay it would not bother me a bit. I have a very close friend who is gay and I have absolutely no problem with that. My point was before that I don't believe he is, and that if he did run off to live another life, he would have taken his wallet at least. So I don't think it should be completely ruled out, but based on knowing Justin, and his family knows him very well, that is not a good possibility. Like I said, I have known Justin since about the 7th grade I believe, and he went to Wild Bills pretty much every thursday that I could tell. I'm not sure if he had a ride that night, if his ride left without him, or what exactly happened but I just hope and pray he is safe somewhere. I know his family is dealing with a lot right now, I can't even imagine the pain and worry they are going through. And I apologize for my mispelling of Daniel's name; it is Peek I believe. I did not know Daniel very well, he had been to my house a time or two with some of our shared friends. I even spoke to him on Thursday or Friday just a day or two before his accident and about 5 days before his death. I don't claim (like a lot of people do) to have known Daniel that well, but I was fairly good friends with a lot of his really close friends. So again I apologize if I offended anyone, I'm just trying to deal with this and try my best to figure out what has happened to Justin. I am totally clueless as to what could have happened, and again I'm sorry. I just hope he comes home safely and soon. |
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O and I also found out that you cannot report someone missing until they have been missing for a minimum of 48 hours or something like that. So I don't think his Mom could have reported him as missing any sooner than she did. If you look carefully she reported him missing at 1:30 in the morning, the same time he made his last phone call. So I'm pretty sure she waited the very minimum amount of time that is necessary to report someone missing. |
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Ok Guys I had just finished a Broadcast that had to go out, and as I noted in the previous post I saw on the news this lad has not shown up. As a Pastoral Counselor the least I could do After I have prayed for Justin, and his family which everyone needs to do earnestly Is to utilize my recourses. I stayed, and made another broadcast to put info out on Justin. It is out now. It will probably hit millions of people from Georgia to the west coast, and all over the country. We can only pray from all the other sites , and this one, and maybe from my syndication someone will come forth. I pray. I truly pray not even Knowing him except through the media that he has done something really stupid, and turns up in perfect health. Here is the feed link I send out through my syndication sites: You can copy paste the first one or just press the second |
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Another sunset ... another sunrise ...and still no answers. I am so hopeful ... and prayerful .. that Justin Gaines will be found in good health. |
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Below is what I sent out on MYSPACE, please do the same. You can copy and paste it. We can all spand $5. |
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I read this story once about a guy that left his wallet at home. He only took some money, his ID, and ended up going missing for over a month. They ended up finding him a few towns over in some hospital. Somehow, some type of drugs caused a temporary memory loss. He didn't remember who he was, and with no ID, well you get the picture. Maybe this happened to Justin? But still, someone would come forward by now. Unless it's like that one Jim Carry movie. Maybe some dude found him and thought it was his long lost son? Maybe they don't have cable? Just trying to find some better sounding alternatives. It is possible. |
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I spoke with Justins mother this morning . Tell her the broadcast has gone out. We hit all our Syndicate, and partners. Millions will hear it. I simulcast it on the net here is the link. |
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This is heartbreaking as we are goign through the same thing with Kyle Fleischmann in Charlotte, NC. I sent out an email to everyone suggesting that we join together. My heart goes out to all of you, family & friends of Justin. |
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I spoke with Mrs. Wilson, Justin's Moher this morning. Let her know that the broadcast has been sent out, |
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I have known Justin's family for about 4 years now. While they are not your typical wealthy Brookwood family, they are a family that has 6 or 7 kids (I could never keep up with that part) and struggle to live in a good school district for their children's sake. Those who judge Erika for not calling the police any sooner than she did are people who do not know all the facts leading up to the time she filed the "official" missing persons report. |
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My daughter just called. She is in a class with one of Justin's brothers. She said he was checked out of school unexpectantly during the middle of class. I hope that means good news. I guess if their is anything to it we'll hear about it on the news. I would call Erika but if it is bad news I don't want to bother her. Lets all pray. |
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Folks who know the area? Is there any kind of water between Wild Bills and Justin's house? Could he have fallen in water trying to walk home? Or even have been hit by a hit and run and be off the road a ways somewhere? |
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This just posted on the scangwinnett.com site: |
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"Clarisse" over at the ScanGwinnett Forums posted this at 6:44 pm this afternoon: |
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For what it is worth, here is another post from over at the Gwinett forum: |
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Ok, so "rumor" has it that Justin got a ride to Wild Bill's with a couple who decided not to stay because of the cover charge. This couple could not come back and pick Justin up because they had "returned the borrowed car". Question: Is this the "friends" who are now, not cooperating with LE? If so, they are incredibly stupid! They need to fess up and tell what they know, because the truth is close to the surface now, and they can't hide it. |
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The little things help, fllod your myspace pages with information. Keep up to date on justinggaines.com. My default pic on Myspace is Justin's flyer b/c I feel the more attention I can bring to him the better. If you can not afford much send $5. Hey if we all send $5 imagine the resources they would have. Most of all do not stop praying, never knowing this kid a day in my life, he has impacted me and my family. |
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My prayers are with all of the friends and family. I'm afraid the sad truth that some will learn is that when you have a loved that has gone missing - you want the public to know about it, you want to scream from the mountain tops for someone to find them - and within a couple of days, the "websleuths" crawl out of the latest missing person's forum and every good thing you knew about that person becomes some sick, twisted game for people who claim you have to look at every angle and every worst case scenario (often times leaving logic and facts from people who actually KNOW them in a heaping pile). So to family and friends - stay strong. Some of those folks mean well, far too many more do not.Our prayers are with you - do not give up hope. |
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A argument almost always happens at Wild Bills if you stare at anyone. |
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Well, there was nothing to Justin's brother being checked out early. I was so hopeful. I am thrilled though at the news of the team from Texas stepping in today to begin to search for Justin in earnest. I'm also thrilled to hear of the person who donated an additional $50,000 for the reward for information leading to Justin's return. I plan to stop by after work to take the volunteers some food. |
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Yes, there ARE bodies of water - while not sizeable, there are a few small 'ponds' off Club Dr. located in front of and within apartment complexes. Club Dr. intersects Pleasant Hill appx. 2-3 miles from Wild Bills. |
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To clarify. There are no bodies of water in the path Justin would most likely have walked and not close enough to the road for him to have fallen into or been knocked into. Of course there are small ponds way off the beaten path in directions it would not have made sense for him to go. Someone would have had to intentionally transported him to those small ponds. Which of course is a possibility. I'm trying to think of the golf courses in the area, there are a few in a totally different direction, unless the little old one that use to be on Clud Drive is still there. It is also not in a direction I would think he would have gone. |
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Is it possible he met someone for sex? I know it's hard to believe but alot of teens are "hooking up" online. Could it also be possible that he was gay or bi-sexual and maybe met a man for sex? As unpleasant as it sounds, people have to think of these things....Like I read in a previous post, two goodlooking young men who were ALONE went missing that close together...Something is really wrong...I hope they find out what's going on...God bless his family. |
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I seriously doubt Justin was meeting anyone for sex and then foul play ensumed. I think we'd all have known if that were the case. Justin is quite the crass braggart and would have been letting everyone know he was going to get lucky. As for him being gay, you'd have to know him but, no, I seriously doubt that. Most females can tell when a young man is gay if they really look, and I can tell you, Justin was very interested in the opposite sex whether he had an audience or not. |
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Just read about this case for the first time.. I found out about it because there is a guy in Charlotte, NC that went missing a few days ago. The circumstances are similar, from what I've read. His name is Kyle Fleischmann. Not trying to change the subject of Justin, I just thought I'd post on here that there are similar cases.. very close in distance and time frame. Just encouraging everyone to keep their eyes and ears open.. for everyone's sake. I've read a few people speculating the cases are related.. I certainly hope not. We shouldn't assume this, but should still be aware it IS a possibility. I'm praying for the safe return of Justin and our own Kyle. |
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I pray every night for justin. I don't know him but I was at wild bills that same night.Me and my friends recall seeing |
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If you saw Justin FOR SURE at 2:00 am yo need to call the tip line and tell them what you saw, even if you think what you saw is not important. EVERY sighting of Justin that night is important. |
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Please pass on to us any factual relevant information so we can keep our data current, and help when we do our broadcasts. We spoke with Justins Mother again today and there is no new news. All remains the same. Someone somewhere out there knows something. We are contacting all of our syndicated, and non syndicated affiliates to join in the dissemination of the news. Please only pass on factual, relevant information. It can be posted at http://www.marksaves.com HOME OF ATLANTA LIVE |
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This is on the boy from Alabama some people were linking Justin with. As you see, his disappearance is not the same: |
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A sighting of Justin is very important, please call. It may or may not help them, but it helps put pieces together and times as well. |
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I am still not satisfied with the findings on the Alabama Youth. That story does not add up either. Suicide to me as a counselor based on what was provided. Is not consistent with my training. |
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I assure you in all the information our office, and the online posts have stated we certainly will take all action, and utilize all resources to insure that Wild Bills ceases it practices. We will spare not one single resource in insuring that issue is addressed fully, and completely. |
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According to this article, Justin's friends are not cooperating. Can any one close to the case confirm if that is a true report? |
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PLEASE EVERYONE....i beg you to come out and help search.... |
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THE SEARCH FOR JUSTIN CONTINUES ON FRIDAY 11-16 AT 8:30AM. |
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I'm not sure what Justin's friends could possibly be withholding from the police that would have any impact in their search for him. I am sure that is what his friends are thinking. They are selfishly protecting themselves or others by telling themselves what ever it is they know would not make a differance. If any of you are reading this, a person's life is at stake here, I implore you to please tell the police what ever you know and let them decide if it is pertinent or not. You may not realize it right now, but by selfishly withholding information for your own protection you are setting yourself up for a life time of guilt that will just eat at you for the rest of your life. Guilt will take whatever chance you have of a happy and fulfilling life away from you. What could possibly have happened that is so bad? Believe me, the police will not hold anything against you that you divulge. In fact they will be impressed by your courage in stepping forward. They just need help in finding Justin. |
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For any of those fearing talking with the police...I spoke with them recently and was a little nervous about doing so. I really didn't know if what I had to say was important. However when I heard the friends were not cooperating I felt I had to tell what I had heard wether it was relavent or not. My theory is let the police decide what is relevent. I told them I wished to remain annonymous and they were very respectful. They listened and they seemed interested in what I had to say. They gave me follow up numbers and I feel really good about speaking with them. I am saying this for anyone who may feel like they have something to say but maybe they are nervous or scared. Come forward no matter how little it seems. The police are here to help. Tell them what you know and help them find Justin. |
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Wild Bills needs to take measures to insure that underage kids are not being allowed in the club period. The club needs to cease it's 18 and over party nights. They also need to take measures to insure that fake id's are not getting past security. Fake ID's are not a new thing anywhere in America, but there has to be a way to stop the entrance of people that are underage. You parents out there would be disgusted to learn the things that have gone on in that club especially on 18 and over nights when a younger crowd is present. Sex, drugs, drinking you name it, goes on in that club and the people involved are not always 21 and over. The police need to be questioning the bouncers that work in that bar as they are the ones that see it all and know first hand the goings on in that club. The goings on in the club may have nothing to do with Justin being missing, but this has brought attention to a situation at Wild Bills that needs to be seriously addressed. The surprising thing is, the times that I have been to Wild Bills there is a huge police presence inside and out always and I have never felt un-safe when leaving the club. My prayers go out to the family and friends of Justin. |
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I don't know anything about the friends that are not cooperating but..is it possible they were so intoxicated that they do not remember what happened? If so maybe they should start searching there routes home. I was thinking about the guy who was driving home a couple of years ago and didn't realize his friend been decapitated in the seat next to him. And I know...anything is possible I am just racking my brain for ideas not yet explored. |
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Kyle was last seen leaving a bar in Charlotte......alone. This is getting really scary!!!! What is happening??? Do you think it's possible that there is a link?? |
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SORRY THAT WAS ON KYLE THIS ONE IS ON JUSTIN: |
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I do know justin, and I know how bad his family and friends are hurting. the reward went from $2000 to $50,000 in one week. that just goes to show how important it is to get him home. A few of his so-called friends know information, and are not being cooperative. We need to do all we can to bring JG back home. |
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I wish anonymous would contact me at the studio. If this starts to fade out like in so many situations we are not goingto let it. If we have to finance it. We need something to make sure the P.I. thats on the case gets it. Somebody email me something to ATL.LIVE@gmail.com give us something to give the Private Investigator. |
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According to Wild Bill's web site (as per another site), Justin was last seen walking towards a car with two men standing by it who were his ride. He and the men were later seen in the parking lot of another bar called Barnacles. |
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Do they have a description of the car? And is there a search for tommorrow? |
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It didn't say anything about the car, just two sentences about the other guys and the other bar. |
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I have not seen or heard anybody but WB state this. Are they just trying to get the heat off themselves or is it true? |
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I'm pretty sure this whole thing is a result of drugs somehow. Possibly a drug deal. Not saying Justine was buying drugs. I'm just saying it's a possibility. If Justine was on drugs his friends would likely not want to incriminate him or possibly themselves. I know for a fact there's drugs at WB if you know the right people. I don't think Justine went off walking. This story just doesn't add up. |
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I agree with you on the walking. And I do not know Justin at all but I agree on the drugs. Things like GHB are really dangerous when mixed with alcohol. Not to mention it is made of cleaning products in most cases. And girls can slip it in a guys drink to. Believe it or not some woman are like that.As far as asking about the car they were in...I call everything that fizzes a coke too. So when I say car I mean whatever it was. But 3 big boys I doubt were riding in a truck. |
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I do not agree, but we are all just speculating. Justins room mates and friends were very honest with his parent hence they know about the fake ID. They did not know all this stuff prior his friends came clean to give them whatever info they needed to find him. I believe I remember reading that his roommates were confident that he did not do drugs, but we thought by his behavior the way Peter describe him that maybe something was put in his drink. No matter what he did if he made a poor choice or not, I made several when I was his age and I just want him home. I know you guys are not trying to but be careful, I am sure it has crossed peoples mind, but romors of drugs can start more rumors and his family will be the ones hurt by them all. |
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He didn't have to do drugs to be drugged. Someone may have put something in someone else's drink and he may have picked it up. There is a 1001 ways that it can happen. It doesn't mean that he went out to pursue drugs. They could of pursued him. Put yes this is all speculation and people grasping at straws to find where Justin could be. |
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Despite Rumors there are no leads, I have spoke to a person close to the family, there are no leads. Nothing!!!!!! |
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The friends' refusal to cooperate is a lead IMO. |
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That statement is not in anyway supported by the family. |
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What scares me most is that so many poeple are in denial about what really could happen...does anyone remember John Wayne Gacy and his "affections" for young men? I was supposed to go to Wild Bill's with some friends the Saturday following Justin's disappearance but changed my plans at the last minute. I frequent the club a lot and I always feel safe inside and outside. I have to back the club up a little here because, although Justin is known to be a great guy, he DID have a fake ID and Wild Bill's staff may not be able to catch "every one". Undoubtedly, some slip through. There have always been several police officers in that area every single time I have gone there and they watch diligently. I have seen fights broken up and potential drunk drivers arrested on the spot so they ARE doing a great job. People are scared and worried and looking for answers and somewhere to lay blame...hence Wild Bill's and the "friends". Until Justin is found, and I still pray safely, we need to stop jumping to mindless conclusions and trying to lay blame until we have proof. |
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I think as more time is passing people are getting agitated with one another. Everyone keep in mind that everyone is looking for the same outcome. And thats to find Justin. If I were the friends and these rumors were coming out about me I would be trying to clear them up. If They have nothing to hide hold a press conferance and be an open book. That way everyone can know what the police know and search accordingly. Thats just a suggestion, it doesn't have to be that drastic. But that would clear the air by all means. |
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It is only natural to start laying blame when you have no real answers. Wild Bills was the last place he was seen so its only natural for people to want to blame Wild Bills-it's a sad sad thing that Justin is missing. There could be a hundred different scenarios of what may have happened to him and until there is some real concrete proof, people should not point fingers. Something does not sit right though, I think someone out there knows more than they are letting on and it's not helping Justin or his family. If anyone knows anything or has information they have not shared, they need to talk to the authorities. |
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There is nothing to air..... Nobody (including the family) knows who is not coroperating, Justin's friends have told everything they knew which was nothing! I was personally told by the investagator, "it is like he vanished in thin air." That was not a spokes prson that was the investagator!!! |
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we are having searches everyday except thanksgiving and never on sunday (although a few go out on thier own on sundays, they arent organized by us), EVERYDAY AT 8AM AT BERKMAR UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, 675 PLEASANT HILL RD, LILBURN. IF PEOPLE HAVE ATV'S TO BRING THEM, AND IF PEOPLE CAN BRING THE SEARCHERS LUNCH, SNACKS, DRINKS..... |
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At the age of 18 we all did some stupid things. Has anyone thought he might have tried to get to his father who I have read lives out of state? |
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Justin was not a thin boy, he was quite thick and able to fight. i know this from seeing him before. so i do not think that he would puss out of any kind of confrontation unless he was druged. i have a friend who is a male and about justins size or bigger who was once druged at wild-bills. lucky, his freind noticed his behavior and took him home. i really feel bad for justins family and my prayers are with you guys to help find justin safely. |
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I was drugged once, I was at a bar with a friend and think God he looked at me eyes and noticed something weird. I remember him asking me what was wrong, then I remember being in the car and the lines looked weird and I felt sick, I remember nothing until the next day when I walked the ground was breathing..... No telling what would have happened if I would not have had a friend there and I was not 18 I was 31. No matter the age it can happen to any of us. I have never went back to that place and if I go anywhere I never let anybody buy me a drink nor put my drink dow. |
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To make a forum that you do not have to get an email addy to post to and to promise to not release their computer id's on...but let people who were there and just saw anything post what they saw... |
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Anonymous tips can be posted at www.marksaves.com or sent to ATL.LIVE@GMAIL.COM GURANTEED |
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I think there are alot of conclusions being dropped to. Further investigation go es to show that the "friends" are telling all they know. I dont know of one person who calls justin a "friend" who wouldn't tell anyone what they thought, or if they had any leads, wouldn't let them know. I think that EVERYONE is looking and going for the same goal; TO GET JUSTIN HOME HEALTHY AND SAFE. We tend to forget that it's the main point... People seemed to get lost, confused and tangled up in trying to figure it out, anc jumping to conclusions. Let the Authorities take care of it. The family hired a PI for a REASON! so let them do their job. Jumping to conclusions does not do anything, but get rumors started, and make people who read these think what we are putting down is factual. You wouldn't believe the rumors floating around. there was a body found in L'ville. ( NOT JUSTINS) and there was an abandoned car supposedly justins. but we all know that he left his car at his parents house and went with "friends" This goes to show that anything can get out there. and we don't want people speculating that they "THINK" they know anything. If you have any FACTUAL information it needs to go to the authorities there is an anonymous hotline where you can call and give the information you know... if any. We just want him home and safe. PLEASE KEEP HIM IN YOUR PRAYERS! We miss Justin! |
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I hate to be the one to break it to you but let me state a few things. This came straight from the Parents lips; |
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I have been interested in this case because, I work with a close family member of Justins in Ohio and live close by his father.I'm rather shocked by this case,first its not to often that a young healthy boy vanishes from a bar, but then to have another young,healthy boy vanish close by, It reminds me of two cases we had here in Athens Ohio , where two young men had vanished late at night in to seperate instances close by and have never been heard from never, Texas Equisearch has been here and searched,nothing..Greta and Nancy both covered the story.All four cases are erie similar. I hope that authorities are really looking into the Justin and Kyle similarities....It sounds like it could maybe be a kind of case that we heard about along time ago when someone was abducting young men I wont even say his name...I dont mean to think that way, but the two dissapearances so close together , I dont know it really seems that they are related. |
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"OHIO", I'm about Justin's age; I have heard about the story that you are talking about? I know that no one wants to think "bad thoughts" about this situation but what was the persons name abducting young men? Was he/she a serial killer? I have frequented Wild Bills before and even went there for concerts, I just cannot believe this has happened. It has really hit close to home for me. I'm sure other people agree with me when I say that "Yes, I'm young and frequent clubs but you can't help but somewhat punish Wild Bills. What I mean is that I will be less likely to go back there b/c of not ONLY Justin's disappearance but some of the other people who have posted blogs about being drugged there. I guess you could say my "club days" are pretty much over! I hope that Justin is found (Kyle as well). I will be praying for their returns. |
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It had occurreed to me very like thoughts. However sad to say that it was almost 9 days before the police got really activily involved in Kyles case, and have had limited involvement in Justins. They have not help search at all. They just telephoned Erika yesterday and said they may could provide resources, but are yet to be forthcoming. To catch up on all of it listen to all my broadcasts. I have one live interview of Kyles best friend. Those broadcasts will explain, and reveal the lack of Law Enforcement involvment in both cases, and get you up to speed on everything else. |
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Mark I agree this family is doing it by on their own and with help from the community. LE needs to be out there.... Is it because his grandpa is not a Senator? Is it because they do not have pull with the Government? Why is it? They are normal people like the rest of us that are going through our worse nightmare and LE stands there and "investigates" How much can they investigate 0 leads... They state there is no evidence of foul play, but can somebody prove it was not? This is somebody's child we are talking about. What can we do to get the LE involved? |
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If anybody can get together names of the churches in that area (large ones) please email them to me saleg21@yahoo.com. I am going to call them and ask for their support. I do not live anywhere near there, so I do not have access to it, |
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It is a shame that only 10 people are out there searching today when there is no school. Come on people, do not do it for me, do it for Justin..... |
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I am begging you guys to send two emails |
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The mayor is Jerry Olberholtzer. The councilman is Mike Beaudeu 770-822-7010 and the head guy there is Charles Bannister 770-833-7010 |
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Governors number 404-656-1776 |
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ATLANTA LIVE MEDIA ONLINE |
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First, my thoughts and prayers are being lifted up for the safe return of Justin. |
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Justin's friends and family can't possibly be having a good Thanksgiving. I want to let all the family of Justin Gaines know that we are praying for them and the return of their son Justin. I hope there are leads soon. and I PRAY that if anyone knows anything, they go to the authorities about it. We miss our JG! |
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Special Thanksgiving Message In Honor of Justin Gaines, Kyle Fleichmann and their families. Our heart felt prayers |
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URGENT INFO TO GET TO ALL PUBLIC BOARDS AND TO SEND TO EVERY EMAIL ADDRESS YOU HAVE. THIS MIGHT WORK FOR KYLE AND JUSTIN. |
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