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That's it?
Sure, the guy is a bit "over-the-top" in his dislike of O'Brien, but nothing quoted constitutes a threat. Not even a veiled threat...
Just scan Usenet - you'll find far worse trolling than that on almost every group. What a tempest in a teapot; I'm inclined to believe that this would never have received any attention (or action) if it hadn't involved a celebrity.
Jackie
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11.09.07 - 3:55 pm | #
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I hate to say it, but a celebrity AND a priest. Ever since the sex abuse scandals, that's a vocation that will draw (likely unwanted) attention whenever someone in a collar shows up in the news in a negative way.
And Fr. Ajemian wrote other things, but posts for Radar are not usually as long as something I might publish here.
I agree there is FAR worse trolling on the Usenet -- but you, like me, must know your way around the Internet pretty well, because you'd be surprised how many people don't even know what the Usenet is, anymore.
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11.09.07 - 4:09 pm | #
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Saying here, what I said "there":
I really feel for Conan, having that kind of nutter stalking him! He's (the stalker is) insane, IMO. SCARY!!!
Adding here, because when Priests "go bad" it's spectacular.
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11.09.07 - 10:30 pm | #
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Honi soit qui mal y pense (sp?) is usually associated with freemasonery. I would have posted that comment on the radar page, but it requires me to register before I can do so, - and I won't.....
P.S. it would seem there are two "Jackie"s commenting now, but Steve will know us apart.
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11.10.07 - 12:10 pm | #
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You spelled it right - but it is actually the motto of the Knights of the Garter, embroidered right into the garter itself. While the Knights were established by Edward III, the usual story (involving a lady's slipped garter and the king defending her honour) is widely considered to be apocryphal. The phrase actually appears for the first recorded instance in the works of the unknown "Pearl poet", being the last line of the epic "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight", leading to speculation that the poet was one of the Knights.
From there, the phrase itself became widely known and used in England as a sort of patriotic motto - for example, it was used in the traditional ballad "St George for England" as the chorus (see http://preview.tinyurl.com/3y5ub7). It became so commonly associated with British patriotism that the garter and its motto were incorporated into the British coat-of-arms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Roy..._United_Kingdom
It was co-opted into British Freemasonry and, interestingly, into British Wiccan "traditions" much later. Variously translated as "shame to him who thinks evil of it" or "Evil be to him who evil thinks", it is widely seen as an admonition along the lines of "judge not lest ye be judged".
All this to say that to associate the phrase with any particular institution is a fool's game at best - it's a widely known and widely used adage that has been associated with many groups. I doubt that there's a masonic link here, particularly given Catholicism's view on those practices - see http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/...then/
09771a.htm for the history. For the fainthearted, the relevant line is "Catholics since 1738 are, under penalty of excommunication, incurred ipso facto, and reserved to the pope, strictly forbidden to enter or promote in any way Masonic societies".
The other Jackie 
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Thanks, Jackie!
I think what confused me is that several of the Danish monarchs who have had the honour of being appointed to the Most Nobel Order of The Garter are also rumoured to have been Masons......
I do need to find something to call myself in addition to Jackie, don't I? :P
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