Oh, good lord, not again.
Please keep us informed on this one Steve, thanks.
First thing that popped into my mind was Trenton Duckett.
'sigh'
Um... my baby is always fussing my 8 AM to eat... She didn't find that strange?
Oh, I imagine a lot of us could ask similar questions. All my kids were getting us up at all hours still at 11 months, for various reasons.
I linked the Google search for Trenton Duckett's name for a reason. Something just rings hollow here already.
Holy cow! It does parallel Trenton Duckett's vanishing, *way* too closely! I hope she is found alive and well, but I feel a sick feeling in my gut. Prayers for Harmony's father, his family, and all those who truly loved that baby.
Is this true? Sexual predators are responsible for more in house abductions of infants than women who steal babies to raise as their own?
Ive never heard of a sexual predator abducting a baby from home. Im sure it happens, unfortunately, just dont know of an example- Ive heard many stories of women abducting babies to keep however.
Yes, does sound like Trenton.
If all the childs belongings are also missing at least this may indicate that the child is still alive- has been given away/adopted out. I hope.
ellalittle, you drew a statement out of what you read that I didn't make. I don't know if you were twisting words on purpose or not. I hope you didn't mean to, because that kind of thing is a big pet peeve of mine. It happens with dialogs on the Web so much it's one reason I loathe most message board discussions. If I'd wanted to say more sexual predators abduct children from homes than other types of criminal, I'd have said it. But I didn't. I don't know the statistics on such things. I only have my experience from years of researching crimes of all kind to draw upon. I rejected the idea that the child was abducted by a predator in stating that it was very rare. I rejected the idea that a crazy child-seeking woman did it because yes, the instances I know of where women do such things are rare.
When they do, it seems like they often kill the mother and take an infant either just born or still in utero, like Bobbi Montgomery allegedly did.
A crime like this smacks of personal cause so far. The most benign possibility is that the child was surreptitiously adopted out. Let's hope that's it, and she's ok.
I read this last night Steve and wanted to wait till today to see if there was any news beacuse as soon as you outlined the story it had that ominous feel to it. Just like with the Nailah Franklin case recently where the story immediately had the ending written, well, not the responsible party quite yet, but her fate. Of course, it's not rocket science in these types of cases to have gut feelings after studying crime for so long, unfortunately. As always, I hope we are proved wrong and that there is some crazy, yet loving person who took this child, or her mother made at least a half-hearted attempt to love the child by giving her to someone who wanted her. We can pray anyways.
Trenton's story still haunts me. Maybe it's b/c of moderating that crazy message board, but either way it is one of the cases that has continued to bother me. Hopefully this will not be another case with no answers.
Do you all remember the case of the woman who was convicted of taking her child to a lake and supposedly hitting it with a rock and leaving it for dead, then went home to be found later by her husband asleep taking a nap, and pretended someone had come in and stolen the baby? She later confessed that the baby accidentally drowned in baby tub, but the evidence proved otherwise. (It was a newborn.) Her husband stood by her even in the face of all of the evidence. Harmony's case reminds me more of that case. Especially concerning is the missing bed sheet and the fact that she was not reported missing until 11am. My alarm bells go off my child sleeps 10min extra! If anything kids are consistent with wake-up times at this age.
By "wake-up" times, I'm talking about in the morning btw, not the middle of the night which, as we all know, is craziness.
Her dad was meeting her for the first time. Does it make any sense to anyone that Harmony's mom would not have been making sure that child was up and dressed in her cutest outfit, happy, fed, and ready to play since he had never met her? That would have been a big deal. One that a caring and considerate mom would have wanted to be prepared for, even if she wasn't with the father any longer. At the very least, she should have checked on her before they arrived to see if she was awake yet, and that's me giving a lot of leniency. We need to know exactly where that mother was in the hours preceeding this and who was the last person other than her to see Harmony. The other children in the home hopefully saw or heard something.
No. So far nothing makes sense in this case.
I was struck by Johni having 3 kids already -- all under 5. Those kids were not Creech's. For some reason, this plays into the "hinky" feeling I got when I first read about Harmony's disappearance. And why do we only have a photo from months ago to go on? The child surely looks very different now. She's a bald baby in that Amber Alert photo.
Police are certainly checking the mom out, or she wouldn't have still been under questioning on Friday night.
I'm am on the same page as Steve and Emerson! Even though some of my children sleep-in occasionally, I always check on them when I wake up, and even if I wake in the night. This does not appear to me to be an abduction at all.
Hopefully another poor child has not passed at the hands of a parent. I, too, also thought this so similar to the disappearance of Trenton Duckett 
One article states the dad and his mom returned home. Then another states they went to the home the baby lived in with the mother. If it's the latter one then it doesn't sound like there was an ongoing relationship between the mother and father. Especially if no one cared enough to be up and ready to welcome a returning soldier. And grandma and her son had to wake the mother up at 11am? With 4 kids how do you manage that one? Seriously, I think alot of us moms would like to know her secret!
The timing of the baby going missing is what sticks out for me. How long has the baby really been missing? When was the last time the other kids saw her? It's almost like time ran out because the baby's father came home and gee whiz, someone kidnapped the baby last night.
Someone at Websleuths posted an update on this. *sad*
http://websleuths.com/forums/sho...ead.php?
t=55223
Not a surprise, the story made no sense and after looking in her background, I felt this was going to have a horrific outcome.
Do you all remember the case of the woman who was convicted of taking her child to a lake and supposedly hitting it with a rock and leaving it for dead, then went home to be found later by her husband asleep taking a nap, and pretended someone had come in and stolen the baby? She later confessed that the baby accidentally drowned in baby tub, but the evidence proved otherwise. (It was a newborn.) Her husband stood by her even in the face of all of the evidence. Harmony's case reminds me more of that case.
Heidi Anfinson. They found microorganisms from the lake in the child's lungs, proving that he was alive when she put him in the water. Last I heard she was still filing her appeals, claiming post-partum depression.
Since she had 4 children under the age of 5, post-partum depression might turn out to be the defense in this death too.
I'm with you SuzieQ,
This little bubba could have been gone since birth and the Newborn photo is what gets me thinking that way.
I know that I didn't take as many photo's of my second born as my first but I was still snapping away as were friends and extended family.
It's the window screen thing too and the fact that an 11 mth old was not checked on for 12 hrs!!
My youngest was walking at that age and my oldest even earlier (couldn't wait for them to walk and then realised I was crazy!!!!) and therefore were able to climb etc...
I would panic if they didn't wake me in the morning first and would dread the walk to their room to check on them.
Emerson, I still think about Trenton all the time too and even my husband , who thinks I'm a bit of a Ghoul, sometimes asks me if anything has been heard.
He got right under my skin and I am going to keep my distance from this one if I can....
Thanks Velouria! I was racking my brain on that one. That case just ticked me off with her weak a@@ husband standing beside her in the face of ridiculous evidence. They really stated that they were going to try for another child when she was awaiting her second trial. Ugh.
Poor, poor Harmony. It's so infuriating to read stories like this when the victims are the most innocent among us. IF Harmony was found deceased in her bed by her mother, then why on earth would she stage an abduction with window screen, clothing, sheet, and timing? I'd love to believe that this sweet baby just passed away from some unknown reason, peacefully in her sleep, but I think we will learn otherwise. Drowning, shaking, smothering, all come to mind.
When was this woman going to wake the eff up and stop spitting out children? She put her own dumb self in the situation of having the stress of 4 children under 5. These children didn't do this to her, (meaning, creating a stressful life), she made a conscious decision to be foolish and loose. Sorry for the rant, I'm just pissed.
Thanks Velouria! I was racking my brain on that one. That case just ticked me off with her weak a@@ husband standing beside her in the face of ridiculous evidence. They really stated that they were going to try for another child when she was awaiting her second trial. Ugh.
Poor, poor Harmony. It's so infuriating to read stories like this when the victims are the most innocent among us. IF Harmony was found deceased in her bed by her mother, then why on earth would she stage an abduction with window screen, clothing, sheet, and timing? I'd love to believe that this sweet baby just passed away from some unknown reason, peacefully in her sleep, but I think we will learn otherwise. Drowning, shaking, smothering, all come to mind.
When was this woman going to wake the eff up and stop spitting out children? She put her own dumb self in the situation of having the stress of 4 children under 5. These children didn't do this to her, (meaning, creating a stressful life), she made a conscious decision to be foolish and loose. Sorry for the rant, I'm just pissed.
This really makes me sick, especially because I live less than 10 miles away in Fayetteville. I wanted to believe that she had just been kidnapped and was ok. This woman has other children, and I'm sure they all have different fathers. It seems to me that she's just having kids, but there's no real love there for them. The father is a G.I. There are so many cases of child abuse and deaths, I hope that it stops! Something needs to be done, and her other kids should be taken away at the very least.
Saying here what I said at the Websluths topic. You are right in that game character names aren't allowed to be used by more than one person in the game. *BUT* the game might allow people to use a different name for the official site/forums. (Not everyone does though.) The reason is, this way people's accounts are more secure and can't get hacked or stolen as easily, and if someone has met the player "in game" and decided they don't like them, they cannot harass the person on the forums. So, Chellbell might be her on the shops, or it might not. Probably it is though.
Actually, the game has more then one server, and for every server there could be someone with this name. Most every modern MMORPGs works this way. With a little research on their server count, it looks like not even counting the test server, since 90% of people have a main server even if they play on a test server, there could be 32 possible people with that name. Also, unlike most other MMORPGs FFXI's servers are world wide servers, and not separated by region like most games.
Anyways, I really hope she didn't hurt that sweet little baby, but its really hard not to think something is so very messed up here.
Sorry for the double post. I didn't send it through twice, so not sure what happened.
Here's some more info:
"Neighbors said they had been bothered by a foul smell for several weeks and that the smell only subsided recently when overnight temperatures dropped. Several neighbors said they had searched their yards for dead animals because of the smell."
"Rollins said Creech was picked up at Pope Air Force Base on Friday by his mother and driven to his daughter's home near Spring Lake. They awakened the baby's mother and found the baby missing."
http://tinyurl.com/39e93b
So this woman was living in a home with three small children that had the odor of death ruminating for WEEKS! I don't know if it is PPD or not, it seems more likely (reading from her narcissistic MS pg) that she may have neglected the baby or lost her temper. JMO. Maybe her being asleep when the father came was part of the plan.
look people i know her very well is/was a good friend with a tough life what is done is done its sad i know. this no good outcome to this matter. the death of a small baby is very sad and my heart gos out about the lose. but till the truth comes out please dont pass judment
thank you
Hi Jason - I don't mean any disrespect, but, you said "til the truth comes out, please don't pass judgement" and I have to ask...so, what's the "truth" then???
I think that we are all getting a little of tired of mommies and daddies committing these terrible crimes (yes, there was quite obviously a crime committed here whether poor little Harmony died of natural causes or not) and then the loved ones have all these excuses or reasons why they did what they did.
I'll say it. I don't that Johni deserves any sympathy OR your excuses for why she has 4 kids under the age of 5 (okay, 3 kids now under the age of 5) and why one of those kids was rotting in her attic while she was playing fantasy games on-line.
well darby its a sad story yes with no good out come but unless you in her shoes you cant make a call on this can you. i know her shes a good person and even good people make bad calls win there scared. its jest sad so many ppl sit at home and harp one outher peoples mis deeds i guess you a saint the can do no wrong what she did was wrong 100% and we all know this. i dont know why she did what she did and i wish it was not true but we will never know what was in her mind maybee playing ffxi was a way to deal with the gref she most of been feeling i dont know any more then you do i play ffxi as well names razzzak on there and trust me there are many many good people on there so dont judge a game by the actions of one player. like look at football do you damn the team for the actions of one player no you dont same rule works on this matter as well
According to WRAL in Raleigh, the mother has been arrested and will appear in court first thing on Monday morning.
Jason, you're doing exactly what you're asking others to NOT do, only in your case you're doing it in in Johni's favor. What you're saying here is no more neutral than the statements of people who think that IF she is responsible for the child's death, she should fry, or spend the rest of her natural life in jail.
In a perfect world, neither you nor anyone you're addressing would pass judgment either way, but that's just not human nature.
It's human nature for all the parents posting here in particular to simply read that this baby might have been decomposing, ROTTING in the attic above Johni Heuser's head for weeks and want something bad to happen to the woman. We've all got our failures as parents, but even if Johni had no responsibility for the baby's DEATH, the fact that she could just stow her in the attic like that is appalling to most people. Especially (again), if you're a parent yourself.
I do appreciate you trying to state your case in a civil way, Jason, and I'd really like to encourage anyone who addresses Jason to do likewise. I get accused of not allowing comments through that don't agree with something I think or feel, but that's not true. I just don't allow assholes to post here -- people who believe stating their case involves proactively insulting and ridiculing anyone who doesn't see things their way. That doesn't cover jason, from the sound of things, and I thank him and respect his need to say something in his friend's defense.
thanks for being civil as well 
all that i do hope is that baby finds peace like you i cant get my head around this but knowing her for years jest makes it worse.
Hi Jason and Steve - I sheepishly thank you both for reining in my (at times) "holier than thou" attitude (Steve, for providing details and insight into these horrifying yet intriguing crimes, and Jason for showing me that friends are friends, no matter what.)
At any rate, my only beef was that I truly feel that there is always somebody making excuses or saying that we don't know for sure until the facts come out what the truth is, and sometimes...it just is what it is.
I can't completely gloss over the fact that the victim is who we should focus on, not the "good person" that in fact committed this crime.
I honestly wasn't for or against the fantasy game playing and don't know anything about that particular game, but, my point was that she was wrapped up in that game rather than parenting.
Anyways. I read Steve's posts and articles and when I read about the Amber Alert and then the circumstances, I knew full well what the outcome would be.
well said
Wow, I keep reading this hoping that there is a new update --- Harmony is fine and meeting her daddy for the first time, smiling and babbling while they play. But that isn't going to happen - not ever.
I don't know what happen and yes, Jason, hopefully the truth will come out. But as a mom of little ones myself, I question so many things. The timing of everything, her odd details, the whole thing with her internet life... I barely have enough time to check my email some days even when my husband is home and with the kids! And what about the other kids? Yes they are young but they were old enough to realize that their baby sister wasn't there. I hope and pray that they are kept completely innocent. This is a horror no children need to know. (for clarification purposes - I am not in any way placing blame on the other kids.)
Unfortunately death can occur with babies unexpectadly (SIDS, suffocation by a blanket or stuffed animal -although not common with 11 month olds). But not contacting medical help, police, or any one to help? Then hiding the baby in an attic to rot? And I can't remember the intitial posting with time frames but I know of not one parent that doesn't check on sleeping kids a few times during the night. I know if mine aren't up by 7:30 in morning, instead of embracing the opportunity to sleep late, my maternal fear hits me that something could be wrong and I am wide awake regardless. And my kids are older. And then her attempt to cover it up? She definitely took the time to think a lot of those details out - especially the Daddy's Girl jammies.
Maybe I am placing judgement? Yeah I am. But why is it that you have to have a license to do everything but be a parent? Johni may be a good person, but that does NOT make someone a good parent. (and before anyone starts yelling at me I am I am far from being a perfect parent, some days maybe not even a good one. But my kids are my priority always.)
Johni now has to live with the consequences of her choices and actions. Whether she is guilty of Harmony's death or not, a beautiful baby is dead and treated with more disrespect that I can fathom. And there is a daddy who just returned from serving his country who will never even get to hold her.
my heart gos out to the dad and his famly both famlys that is and i thank him for serving his country for all us
I think we can safely assume if they are charging her with Murder then they have evidence that is indicative of her purposefully causing this child's death. We could assume this may be due to a confession since an autopsy may not have been completed yet. Or, maybe one has been completed. With the child being so decomposed however, it seems likely that a confession was garnered.
Jason- What I can't seem to wrap my head around in re: to your friend is why she continued to have children. It only takes one baby to realize that and yet she continued down the same path X's 4. It's not a wonder she would have snapped with all of the pressure, but that's completely her fault for bringing such pressure upon herself.
This just seems so darn preventable and that's why it is so frickin frustrating.
Julia ~ "Maybe I am placing judgement? Yeah I am. But why is it that you have to have a license to do everything but be a parent? Johni may be a good person, but that does NOT make someone a good parent."
I've said this many times. We don't want to be like China and force abortions and such, but there must be some solution.
It used to be that the marriage license was the license to have kids, but that was a couple of centuries ago. They teach sex education in schools, so why not parenting education?
Maybe they should require every parent to pass a test or be put on probation so that a child's caretaking can be monitored if they can't pass the test. This may sound cruel to Libertarians, but times have changed. Not everybody should be allowed to have kids.
Simply heartbreaking Even the cases where a mother has killed her child/children, and has been shown to be a complete mental case, contacted authorities to report what they had done or summon help.
Putting her baby in the attic is beyond words, and I have no doubt there is something sinister here. For her to live with not only this precious baby's dead body in the residence, but to deal with the odor, and all while her other babies are in the home, etc. ~ this to me is nothing short of EVIL? Oh, yes, and the timing of it all is equally as suspicious. I hope I am wrong, but even if the baby had passed of natural causes, there is NO EXCUSE to do what she has done!!! Sick or not! I am curious if there have been reports to CPS in the past.
I feel so terrible for her other children, the father and his family, as well as the family of this sick sick sorry excuse for a mother. May baby Harmony rest in peace, and feel all of the love and warmth any child deserves!
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I just read in the updates that she has now been charged ~ I am beyond words. Emerson, you nailed it ~ there had to have been a confession for a charge this early in the case, unless there was clear and convincing evidence of murder. Just beyond disturbing!!! I am convinced this was completely out of the need for control, self-centeredness, and not wanting to share this poor baby with her father and father's family.
She deserves the worst the U.S. has to offer! Yes, from one mother to another.
don't trust the supposed "facts" in this article... the only news service that is reporting the truth is www.wral.com
this one is full of assumptions and flat out lies and misrepresentations. I'm a friend and I know what has and hasn't happened with the investigation
and no, I will not post any updates or information related to this. The only information I will give out is what you can find on the previously mentioned website. I typically dislike the media and want nothing to do with them, but they have been the most accurate (about 95%) as far as facts are concerned
whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
I've avoided commenting on the latest updates because, well, I'm very disgusted. I don't care how the story is spun or who is reporting accurately. At best this so called "good person" put her baby in the attic to rot. At worst she killed her baby. The last time I checked, good people do not do either one.
Not important - She'll have her day in court and that's where the presumption of innocence applies. Outside of the courtroom, it's fair game to discuss and opine on the case. Nothing reported thus far, including by WRAL, offers a credible explanation as to why a baby was left to rot by her own mother. And that's assuming her story of finding the baby dead is even true.
I had forgotten that some games let people have a duplicate name on another server. Anyone know what server she played on? Does the buying account name mention a server? Does each server have it's own marketplace out-of-game, or do all the merchants gather in one place and just mention their server? Surely there would be an indication as to server on the marketplace somewhere? It does no good to purchase the item you want for your character on the wrong server. (Since in games like that the character is locked to a certain server.)
Hi SuziQ, I see we're on the same page on this one. This story disgusted me too, and for people to make excuses adds insult to injury. I understand that it's difficult to believe that a friend or family member is capable of something so horrible, but let's use some critical thinking skills! Does her story make any sense? What about this poor baby? Is it possible that she found the baby dead because she had neglected her in some way and then panicked?
The reason I ask about servers and the like is, I wasn't able to play online MMORPGs after my mother's death, and for quite some time. (I did play a few mindless flash games that were along the lines of Solataire though.) I think if she was able to play FFXI it may point at the least to an addictive personality, escapism.
Ok, the Auction House is for the Siren server, so I ask again, any indication of what server she played on?
Ok, that Chellbell is probably Johni. How do I infer this? Because on her MySpace profile she has an image of her character with a character named Cronsmoke. Well, I went to Faces of FFXI, and looked up the Siren server. There is a Cronsmoke there.
http://snipurl.com/1sh9o
I didn't find any of her other friends there, nor did I find her, but I did find one of her friend's friends on there.
RPGFaces.com: http://www.rpgfaces.com/
Also, a search through the AuctionHouse site for player names found in her FFXI screenshots shows that only one server has each of those names: Siren. That's her.
Clarifying. Some of the names of the characters found in Johni's FFXI album appear on other servers, but *ONLY ONE* server has a Chellbell, and *ONLY ONE* server has all those names: Siren.
missmerlyn - all we want as friends and family is an explanation. None of us are looking for excuses - there is no excuse for the tragedy and the lies and deception. I do understand that everyone wants a "credible explanation" ... my whole reason for even posting to this board was because the truth is already so clouded and horrific that I do not want to support a site that makes bold assuptions and states them as fact. This does nothing to find the "credible explanation."
I simply wanted to make sure that those who actually want to know what's going on and who want to follow the true story should check other sources like wral.com
Take it as you will, it doesn't matter to me as I understand that the internet is a place for opinion and discussion. I just like for the discussion to be based off of known honest facts as it tends to lead toward more productive discussion.
I suppose I'm just tired of hearing everyone condemning her to death when its a distinctive difference between a murderer and someone who is grossly irresponsible and negligent. This is a matter for the courts to decide and to sift through the information and figure out what truly happened
Like I said before, all that any one of us wants is to know exactly what happened. Until that is figured out, I will not share my opinion or belief on the matter
From your preferred website for info WRAL:
"Family members of the Harnett County mother charged with murder in her baby’s death said they continue to support her, but they don’t understand what happened.
“My daughter obviously was not in the right state of mind,” said Hannibal Irrizary, father of Michelle Heuser, 25. “This is not in her character, you know, the stuff that has gone on.”
"Heuser was charged with first-degree murder Saturday after investigators found her 11-month-old daughter, Harmony Jade Creech, dead in the family’s attic."
“If it had not been for them keeping my son for three tours of duty, my son would have been home, possibly keeping this from happening,” the elder Ronald Creech said.
Although he’s angry, he said he would support Heuser. The one thing that comforts him is knowing his son got to meet Harmony once, briefly, before she died."
“He got to hold her. That’s something I’ll never get to do,” Ronald Creech I said."
So Ronald is going to support her?? We're talking about 1st degree murder here, not accidental death. Of course, people who know her will claim that she was out of her mind, because it's too hard for them to wrap their mind around an out n' out evil action. BUT, we're talking about a woman who purposefully (according to the charges, most likley based upon confession) killed an 11 month old girl and hid her body in an attic for at least two weeks, living with the stench of death for all that time while still caring for three other children. So did she remain "out of her mind" for weeks? Typically when someone is nuts they don't go about an elaborate cover-up, (removed screen, clothes, bed sheet, bibs, "Daddy's girl" jammies), included.
I've cited the sources I used to write this. They include WRAL. It's all right there. The only things in this post not drawn from a mainstream media source of info are the MySpace info and the MMORPG info.
Readers are handling "not important" with great civility, but always remember that family members of someone accused of a crime are generally the least likely people to "listen" to anything you say. And my experience has been that they are the most likely to end up angrily "trolling" comments -- often even after a loved one has been convicted of a crime.
That said, Ms. Heuser hasn't been convicted of anything, and we should remember that. But part of this "being America" is that we're free to discuss the story from the moment it's published anywhere.
And if I had a dime for every time someone has trotted out that "innocent until proven guilty" canard in blog comments. "Innocent until proven guilty" has the force of law inside a courtroom, and once a trial is under way, it deserves great respect. Outside the courtroom, people may attempt out of fairness to maintain that posture, but it's human nature to ask questions, and ask them sometimes from a skeptical point of view. That Harmony was reportedly (by ALL SOURCES, including WRAL) found in the attic of the home and may have been there for at least a couple of weeks. Few people can make sense of that, including me.
I do have to ask my final question -- why the hell do people read and post to blog comments at a time like this, when a loved one is in deep, serious trouble? I'll never be able to make sense of that -- for a person close to someone like Ms. Heuser or even Mr. Creech, it makes no sense that you'd bother (though I'll keep letting your comments publish, unless they become abusive or insulting towards anyone else here).
My late brother had a long criminal record and was always an inch away from some sort of disastrous trouble with law enforcement. Had something happened to him, had he been accused of something terrible, I can imagine writing about it at some point, but not anytime soon after it happened, and I can't imagine at all barging into message board or weblog discussions. Those things would seem utterly unimportant by comparison.
The people posting here are coming from all over the U.S. and other parts of the world, too -- just look at the "feedjit" thing on the right/bottom sidebar. They aren't necessarily your next-door neighbors. So they can be forgiven if they're a little too skeptical or at the least neutral for your taste.
Also -- don't make the mistake of thinking any journalist from any outlet, especially a regional TV station, is "on your side." They are not. The best ones are on the side of truth, and finding out the truth about anything they report. Many others, though, are on the side of getting the story that brings in the best ratings, and they could care less about you or your family, no matter what they say. I'm just saying this in a general way, not pointing out any one particular reporter. It's based on having been a paid journalist and on my experience with them as the subject or source for a piece of reporting.
the siren but what the hells it matter not a damn thing im in that same server Cronsmoke is there too please ppl get a life and leave a game alone i got more game pics on my myspace page then pics or real life so sue me THIS MATTER IS ABOUT A POOR BABY NOT A MMORP OR THE PPL SHE MIGHT OF KNOW IN IT thank you
per server there can only be one char named anyone thing im on the same server she was with about 30k outer people at any one time my name is Razzzak on there like real life in game i know her i know Cronsmoke as well but i must ask you this why did you toss Cronsmokes name into this sad mess. is not bad nuff that so many lifes are being taken down by this sad mattar why are you people draging anyone into it that you can find a pic of or the smallist bit of useless info think that one over will you and after your done doing that go look inn a mirror and if your looking for someone to judge then there you go its up to the courts now not a hand full of web blogers
Steve i thank you agen for being civil with me on this matter but some people on this site need to stop pointing fingers at things they know zero about. this is a sad matter for so many ppl and im one of em theim kids mean the world to me ive seen there smiles. i dont know why she did what she did and we might never know the truth but all i do know is some of you people make me sick end of story
I agree with you Jason, MMORP has nothing to do with this tragedy except for MAYBE (and no one knows yet) she was so obsessed with her online life that she neglected her baby. It's happened before. That being said, it wouldn't have mattered whether it was online gaming, or drugs, or alcohol or TV, if she was trying to escape reality she would have found a way to do it.
Jason:
Your statement, ". . .some of you people make me sick", is almost as mind boggling as the horrific actions of this selfish mother!
As for her gaming activities, I could care less, and if you read the entire content of the comments, not many have even made mention of it. Actually, you are shining the spotlight, which just might peak some viewer's interests.
I am sorry that you are personally connected to this in the first place. However, I am deeply puzzled by your comments, and especially in light of the fact that you claim "theim kids mean the world to me I've seen there smiles", yet you continue to defend this woman by maintaining she is a good person. Yet, I always appreciate another's point of view, opinions, conclusions, speculations, reactions, etc.
Having said that, I am in no way trying to be disrespectful, but am still baffled how any of our comments could possibly make you sick. What about poor baby Harmony, her father, her siblings, and her extended family? Are they also going to be judged unfairly by you for possibly being angry, confused, etc., at the actions of this so called mother?
sorry i was a bit rude there
steve - "why the hell do people read and post to blog comments at a time like this, when a loved one is in deep, serious trouble? I'll never be able to make sense of that -- for a person close to someone like Ms. Heuser or even Mr. Creech, it makes no sense that you'd bother"
-- I'm on the outside looking in. There's nothing I can do from where I stand except to be there for friends and family. All my comments have been in the middle of the night when I can't sleep because I'm so disturbed about what's going on. From where I stand this is completely surreal and unbelieveable.
"From where I stand this is completely surreal and unbelieveable."
That makes a lot of sense. I can't understand what you yourself are going through since such an experience is truly unique, but I can certainly believe it's truly surreal, disturbing, unbelievable, you name it.
From the update on this morning's hearing:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/s.../story/1954649/
"In addition to the diaper box where Harmony's body was found, investigators seized trash bags filled with baby clothes and shoes, written directions to a nearby trash dump, a computer, a cell phone, a pipe and financial records from Heuser's home, according to court documents."
My God, I suppose it's at least a good thing she didn't leave that poor child at the dump, or she might have never been recovered...And the part about the trash bags filled with baby clothes, well - one more chilling parallel to the Duckett case.
Somehow I can't get over the fact that this girl told the Harmony's father that she was wearing "Daddy's Girl" pajamas when she went missing. Even if Ms. Heuser was telling the truth about the circumstances surrounding the baby's death, that's just plain evil.
I spoke with someone who has dealt with cases similar to this one, but who is not involved with this one.
They believe that by concealing the death and keeping the remains that the mother was not able to let her daughter go. If she was a murderer or did not want the child, chances are that she would have put the remains in the garbage rather than to keep them. Quote- "she might feel it would be better to tell her husband the child vanished than hit him with the fact the child died" and also "maybe it was fear of his sadness and wishing to spare him that motivated her"
Keep in mind that the above is one theory, it's not proven right or wrong but knowing her personally I believe it is on the right track.
At any rate... as much as I hate assumptions, I think it is safe to assume that she is definitely a disturbed person who was not thinking clearly or at all.
Velouria - as far as the information siezed by police officers "written directions to a nearby trash dump" That could've been for anyone. It is a very rural, country-type setting and there is no local trash pickup. Residents generally have a permit for residential use of the local dump. For all we know, a cousin or friend may have taken trash to the dump for her and needed directions to get there.
Steve - thanks for at least editing harmony's middle name. And you are correct, many sources stated the wrong name from the beginning and I do not fault you for that. At the same time, I do appreciate you changing it on as friends and family called the baby girl by her middle name.
Steve - "If you want something corrected, I need more than an allusion to what might be wrong. Also, you may want to employ a bit of middle-school reading comprehension skill and check and see where I may have gotten information before you go blaming this blog for anything."
I realize that this is directed towards me, and I will not give any more information that is not already available on wral. Just let me say that if you have 2 conflicting reports then wral is the correct one. Take it as you will. Also understand that I am very familiar with your sources which is why I want to point you in the right direction. I will not give specific information because as of yet the media doesn't know anything about me and I would like it to stay this way.
I do not blame your blog for anything, as you are reporting things the way you perceive it to be. I read through some of my last posts and I realize that I was not exactly the kindest with words towards your site and I do apologize. As I'm sure you and everyone else can understand, it's been a very stressful and emotional time for everyone involved and at times tempers become short. I do apologize
stress trying know first hand the people in the story you talking about as well as i do thats real stress
Well, I do think that it is important to point out that per one of the articles from WRAL, Johni said that she did not report little baby Harmony Jade's death because of "fear."
Now, that to me speaks of fear of something other than the fear of Harmony Jade's daddy finding out that the baby was dead, and not just deceased, but, up in the attic where even the neighbors could smell her.
The fear I envision is the "Oh shit, what have I done, I've got to hide this" rather than the pure, raw grief that other mommies might have had, had they truly came upon their little baby not breathing in the crib.
I mean, who makes that leap from "Oh my god, she's dead" to "I have a plan and it includes the attic."
The fact that Johnie immediately took the route that included putting this beautiful, 11 month old little girl into a diaper box along with her clothes, etc., shows a cover-up which should not have entered a non-murderers mind. If you came upon your little one not breathing in your crib, you would call 911 or your mom or somebody to come and help. Not hide the baby and then, out of necessity, come up with an abduction plan.
I'm just saying. It is what it is. Maybe the baby was crying one night, Johni was tired or wanting to get back to her fantasy game, her 3 other little ones were giving her a hard time as little ones will, and she had a moment where she did something serious. And then she had to cover up that "something serious."
I am sorry to assume. But, we do have facts in this situation, per WRAL, and it's getting harder and harder to stomach these crazy mothers.
Please, Jason and Not Interested, don't attack me too hard.
I also saw the video on WRAL that showed her showing no emotion and I am going by that as well.
I do wish you peace as you go forward in this with her and my prayers are of course with the father and little baby Harmony Jade.
I also do have to say that after hours of being interview by law enforcement, the charge is First Degree Murder.
Not 2nd degree...or manslaughter...or child neglect...or even desecration of a human corpse.
Her own confession must have led LE to believe that this warranted 1st degree murder, which is the most serious.
"...a pipe and financial records from Heuser's home, according to court documents."
A pipe? Lead pipe or something used for smoking?
So her family are standing by her , that's fantastic . How did this loving family not notice that Harmony was missing ? Neighbours noticed a rotten smell from the place , I'm curious to know if anyone asked her about it .
.... i see now your minds are made up and set a pipe stop the presses omg a pipe i give up
I find it very interesting that she was screaming and crying when her mother called 911. she was putting on a big act and it raises a lot of questions about her motivation and being manipulative.
this is a very sad story.
Julie,
I wondered that too, why didn't any of her friends or family notice that the baby was missing? She didn't have ANY visitors for two weeks? Seems odd.
There are a few details in this article that I have yet to read elsewhere:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....on/
5232641.html
"Oct. 21, 2007, 2:46PM
Mother charged in baby's death
By MANDY LOCKE AND SAMIHA KHANNA
McClatchy-Tribune
RALEIGH, N.C. — Authorities on Saturday found the body of a missing 11-month-old girl hidden in the attic of her Spring Lake home and later charged the child's mother in connection with the death.
The Harnett County Sheriff's Office charged Johni Michelle Heuser, 25, with first-degree murder. She was being held without bail.
Harmony Creech had been dead for three or four weeks, Harnett County Sheriff Larry Rollins announced late Saturday night.
Rollins said Heuser's three other children were placed in foster care.
Police had issued a statewide Amber Alert on Friday after Harmony's family reported her missing. The FBI helped the Harnett County Sheriff's Department, although authorities never labeled the case an abduction.
On Saturday, the mother told investigators she had found the baby dead in its crib and concealed the body in the attic of her home.
"Her reasoning for such was that she was fearful," Rollins said of the 25-year-old mother of four.
Though the girl's body was found around lunchtime Saturday, authorities made the announcement at 9 p.m. local time because they didn't want news of the recovery to interfere with interviews with key people, specifically Heuser, Rollins said.
"She has been telling us a lot of lies for a long time. It finally, through some good interview techniques, brought the truth out," the sheriff said.
Harmony's reported disappearance shook the rural southeastern pocket of Harnett County outside Spring Lake, near Fort Bragg in Cumberland County. The girl's father, Robert Earl Creech II, had returned from a 15-month tour of Iraq on Friday to see his infant girl, whom he met only once while on leave in January.
But Harmony was reported to have vanished during the night, sometime after her mother put her down to sleep and before late Friday morning. Also reported missing were a pink sheet, a handful of bibs and nearly all of Harmony's clothes.
Rollins said investigators were suspicious about the circumstances of the missing baby, but kept open minds and kept seeking facts in hope the child would be discovered alive.
"In missing-person cases, you're looking at the clock," he said.
In her statement, Heuser didn't mention any medical problems or other signs of trouble leading up to the discovery of her dead child, Rollins said. He also mentioned that social workers were called to the house in August to check on a complaint, but no action was taken after an inspection of the home.
Rollins wouldn't specify the reason for the complaint. He said the social worker's report gave detailed information about Heuser's 3-year-old twin boys and a 5-year-old girl, who have a different father than Harmony. There was no mention
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com...ory/
225705.html
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"Irizarry helped her daughter care for her four children, and investigators are trying to figure out when Irizarry last saw the baby. The time line was still fuzzy as of Sunday afternoon, McNeill said.
Neighbor Bonnie West said Heuser had made excuses in recent weeks when Harmony's grandparents wanted to see her, saying she was asleep. And, she said, Heuser had been more reclusive in recent weeks. Previously, neighbors had complained of the noise from late-night music and parties.
"All of a sudden you couldn't get [Heuser] to open the door," West said. "You could knock and knock and beat and beat."
When she finally did come to the door, West said she would hurry up and close it behind the visitor.
Even last week when a water line broke, she was reluctant to let someone in the house to help her fix it, West said."
Im not sure I can see exactly what the motive here is. Is it possible that this baby died of SIDS and she just lost her mind?
I'm not saying that an 11 month old cannot die from SIDS but I cannot remember any babies that old, who were healthy previously, having died of SIDS. And I have medical ties and even researched this just to be sure that I wouldn't be talking out of turn.
Hopefully Johnie will just come clean, say what happened, for real, though I am betting that based on her comments during interrogation, she has already said some things that led law enforcement to charge her with 1st degree murder.
Young mom, 4 kids, one of whom is a baby, with neighbors complaining of "noise and loud partying" might just have snapped one night and there you go. Otherwise, again, like many have said previously, there would have been no reason to be fearful and not going the route of getting some help.
To hide the baby speaks volumes. I also believe, based on the directions to the garbage dump, that she planned on throwing her away and was scared to based on the procedures at the dump.
11 months old is not too old for SIDS, and if she was a partier then more than likely the baby has been exposed to smoke. Also, she was obviously a teen mom, and subsequent children of teen mothers are more at risk for SIDS than those of babies born of older women, even women in their 40ies.
She was 19-20 when her first child was born. The other two (living) are twins. I believe they are 3 years old. She married in 2000.
BTW, her ex-husband (or husband)is no upstanding citizen. He's served time in NC DOC and multiple arrest records. Latest arrest this year.
Hannah's father on the other hand, appears to be the exact opposite. A soldier and for sometime, like since HS is my reading of him. How she hooked up with him? Location, location, location?
Although my experience working in criminal law is minimal, I have never heard of a parent being charged with MURDER when a child has died because of an illness, SIDS, unforseen accident, etc.
Not only did she take the actions she did with baby Harmony's body, she then constructed some evil story to mislead all others. So reminiscent of Susan Smith, and what she drug her husband and family through. DISGUSTING, and it does not get much worse in my opinion!!!
From Abrams on MSNBC.
Hannah's remains were skeletal. They knew Johni was with holding the truth from the beginning.
Darby, that is a true about dump procedures. I lived in a rural area for a short time and when I hauled the garbage to the drop off, there was always an attendant on duty.
He/She would direct me to the appropriate area (metal, glass, garbage etc) and watched while I got rid of my garbage.
well only god can pass blame
Jason, so can the State of NC, if a jury finds someone guilty.
I feel for you, like the other 100s of other friends or family of an accused murderer or rapist I've seen post on the Internet.
Sadly, the person that makes the decision to take another's life or rape another, doesn't care or think about the impact it will have on others.
Their family and friends are left in the dark and bewildered. Usually the perp is a liar and allies believe the tale even when confronted with hard facts. I don't think a video tape of the crime would make a difference to some people.
They need to believe in their loved one's innocence.
Diane,
Her name is Harmony, NOT Hannah I just fel the need to point that out, since you keep refering to her as Hannah.
Figuring out if that Chellbell at the auction house really *was* her does matter jason. This is why. When I lost my mother suddenly in March, I wasn't able to play my game of choice (Guild Wars). I wasn't able to participate in the guild site, nor even contemplate going to the marketplace to bid on or sell items. I *still* haven't really gotten back in game, and it has been months. The fact that she was able to do so, in my mind says she wasn't as saddened/depressed/overwhelmed/confused by grief as she wants us to believe. And I didn't "drag" his name into it in the way you are saying. People are not stupid. They know he is just some guy she hung out with in game. He's got nothing to do with Harmony's death, and we know that. But, the images and the like prove that it is her. That proof further goes to contradict her supposed state of mind. That's the how and why of it. Think about it. If your child or family member died suddenly, would you want to go to the AuctionHouse? I'll grant some might hang out in game to chat with friends, I have seen that. But to actually play?
And adding, before others try to throw it in my face. Yes, I have blogged. Yes, I have played *flashgames* they do not take nearly the focus of playing a Guild Wars Monk. (Healer.) I played to try to pull out of the sadness a little. And you will notice a *BIG* gap in my entries, nothing from April 11th (When I thawed out from the shock and absorped the fact that my mother wasn't just in the hospital)to September 2nd. I was somewhat numb when I made the posts after March 7th, sort of waiting for the other shoe to fall. About the time of Easter and Spring really coming is when it hit me. Mom loved Easter.
No offense Kat, but how you mourn has nothing to do with how another does.
It certainly looks like something happened here. But I am waiting for the evidence in this case.
Jason:
As I stated previously, I feel a tremendous amount of sorrow for anyone close to this horrific tragedy. However, I wonder if you are a parent, or a father of a child? I would find it extremely difficult to imagine that you would feel supportive of a mother that simply discarded your child (not including what transpired before the baby's death). This evil woman put her baby's body in a diaper box, and left her in the attic to rot? Then only to find yourself in a circus of police/FBI/reporters/volunteers frantically trying to find an "abducted" baby.
Heinous is an understatement, and as I also stated previously, I honestly do not believe much is worse than what she has done, and with my limited knowledge of all of the facts.
Please do try and understand why people are outraged. She is completely responsible for her actions, and further showed no respect, compassion, or loyalty to her baby, her baby's father/family, other children, etc. This is not acceptable under any circumstances, and no allowances should be given.
TY, Heather. I have no idea why I screwed up her name, especially since I realized her middle name was Jade early on from news accounts.
Melissa, of course we all mourn differently. But, she's trying to say she's not in her right mind. Well, I certainly wasn't myself from the time my Mother died till about September, and I still am not quite myself. I wasn't able to focus at will on a game like Guild Wars, to plan and bargain search for supplies to advance my character. A common characteristic to mourning is the person doesn't want/isn't able to do the things they had previously done for fun. The "fun" has gone out of it, you are tired, confused, and just not able/wanting to focus on it. I did play more mindless games on the computer, because there is nothing else to do in this podunk town, it's a small Kansas town, and I don't drink, don't have a lot of money. Anything I'd do to try to distract myself had to be on the net, just nothing very complex. Liken it to playing Solataire to keep from going round and round in your head with sad thoughts.
I am not certain as to Postpartum Depression, and if that would change things as far as being able to play an online game while the body of your child festers and stinks above you. Somehow though, I'd say not.
Also Melissa, please call me KatK, since there is also a Kat here. *wink* S'no biggie 'cept I want to keep things clear of confusion.
jason - I do know Michelle and Ron both personally, just so you know. I would get into specifics but I would rather people NOT know who I am because I don't want to be hassled by the media and random people seeking gossip like some of my friends are experiencing. Investigators have already spoken to me ... in fact, thats how I found out about the entire incident. I have kept my posts purposely vague for this reason. I remember michelle talking about you and I don't know if she ever mentioned me to you or not but if you want/need someone to talk to, leave some contact information somehow and I will be there for you. I don't know any other way to get in contact, as I was not friends with most of michelle's other friends.
Okay,... it took me an hour to read all of the comments that came in after my last comment.
Katk,... you really made one of the best points about playing the online games. Whether or not you get into games, and what you do with them, and how deep you get into them, all depends on where you are, who you are, and what you do for your daily occupation. There's nothing wrong with playing games, as long as your other obligations are met. I like watching football, baseball, auto racing, and basketball, but I make sure my work is done first before I watch sports.
Maybe if you are in the middle of Bum*uck Kansas with nothing to do all day, you have time to get into some video or computer games.
I'm just throwing in my two cents here,... after taxes,... but I remember when they first invented DSL, and I remember what they said the purpose of DSL was.
And I remember going over to my friend's house from 1991 to 2003 and watching him and all of his kids (20 something adults), while all they did was sit in front of their computers all day playing some stupid game with people around the world, where you dress up your character with the points you gained from the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome you get from spinning that stupid mouse ball around with your thumb while you throw witty chat-speak blurbs at other users while you shoot your imaginary weapons at them with the high dollar joy stick you just bought and you know that no0b0dy else in teh neighborhood has one because it costs so much.
in the qwest to kill electrons u evntly rlize thta splling, grmmrr, n punctacean dn't matter eny moor if u ken stll get ur point>>>> acroos/
Keep talking jason and not important. We're listening.
Do you think your good friend's lifestyle hasn't been around for like, ... forever? We are just people commenting on the various crimes reported in the news each day. Your friend placed the corpse of her dead child in the attic to rot while doing things that nobody can really understand because the child wasn't missed until the father, just home from the war was walking into the bedroom to meet his daughter.
Yes, I'm a total stranger judging the person reported by the main stream media to be the perpetrater of a crime involving the decomposing corpse of an 11 month old child.
Neighbors are standing next to their fences talking to each other. Now, in the 21st Century, thanks to the World Wide Web, people all over the world are talking about this criminal event.
I'm sorry about your luck, jason and not important. It's not as bad as you think. Only one person is getting locked up, and nobody else is likely to die.
diane
or family of an accused murderer or rapist
was there a need to say rapist???
add more gas to a fire will you!
win info comes out of what lead to the babys death they feel free to say what you will
many good ppl have made real bad calls shes not the 1st what she did is a very very bad crime and yes she will pay for it for the rest of her days so will the outher 3 kids and Ron as well as we that know people in this sad sad story
Yes, there is a need to tell it like it is. It is called speaking the truth plainly. This is a good thing. When we as a society mamby pamby around and use softer words for such horrendous things, they lose some of their impact, and the meaning blurs. That is a bad thing. Murder is murder, and ghoulish behavior should be given its full weight, whether it is rape, murder, or callous disregard for other people's feelings. We shouldn't soften the way we describe such things. They should be verbal hammers to our consciences, for good reason. So we don't lose sensitivity as a society, and forget why such things are not good.
jason ~ "was there a need to say rapist???
add more gas to a fire will you!"
jason does have a point here. Diane kind of used the term "rapist" loosely. Putting a dead child in the attic to rot doesn't rise to the level of rape.
Don't be offended jason. The crimes discussed here usually involve murder, rape, and vulnerable or child victims. She's not all the way up to rape, but she's up there with a child corpse and a 1st degree murder charge.
Nobody disagrees with you jason. It is a sad, sad, very sad story.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/s...l/story/
1954649
"Posted: Oct. 22 9:36 a.m.
Updated: Today at 1:08 a.m.
Heuser, 25, showed no emotion, however, during a brief court hearing Monday when she faced a first-degree murder charge in the death of Harmony Jade Creech.
She responded "Yes, sir" when a judge asked if she understood the charge against her, and she asked the court to appoint a defense attorney for her.
"I haven't seen a lot of (remorse)," Harnett County Sheriff Larry Rollins said during a news conference about the investigation late Monday afternoon. "(She has been) a liar – deceptive right up to the point of just being back to the corner and can't go anywhere else. … I don't know that she's told the truth now."
Investigators found the child's body early Saturday afternoon wrapped in a plastic bag inside a diaper box in the attic of the Spring Lake home Heuser was renting.
"There were a number of other boxes and clothing and items that were in there," Rollins said. "And the box that her remains were in was very concealed and was even difficult for investigators to locate."
In addition to the diaper box, investigators seized trash bags filled with baby clothes and shoes, written directions to a nearby trash dump, a cell phone, a pipe, financial records and an X-Box video-gaming system, according to search warrants released Monday.
The gaming system can operate like a computer chat room. While not confirming the gaming link, FBI Supervisory Agent Greg Baker said agents are interviewing as many as five people along the East Coast about the case.
"They're looking at imaging hard drives, and we're looking to see if there's any individual in contact with the principal targets of the investigation," Baker said.
Heuser's mother called 911 Friday morning to report the baby missing, prompting authorities to issue a statewide Amber Alert and the FBI to dispatch a 32-member evidence response team from across the United States to Spring Lake to comb the house for evidence.
It was a meticulous search that led investigators to Harmony's body. They said they chose not to cancel the Amber Alert for several hours, however, so they did not compromise the interview with Hueser.
"At that point in our investigation, and in the interviews that were being conducted with Michelle, it would have been a great hindrance to have done so at that time," Rollins said.
Investigators were then able to get a statement from Hueser that the child had died some time ago and that she had concealed the death out of fear.
The FBI said she consented to a polygraph, which Rollins said "confirmed that we knew she was a habitual liar."
"She lied to us and everyone else from the start right up until the time she had to explain that child's remains in that attic," he said. "She got to the point where she couldn't get around not answering the question."
Warrants indicated that investigartors thought the child m
PRIOR POST WAS NOT COMPLETE (may have extended the word criteria, but who knows ~ I am pasting an article here, and just want to make sure it it complete):
". . . Warrants indicated that investigartors thought the child might have died sometime in September. They sent the baby's remains to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in Chapel Hill to determine a cause and time of death.
Meanwhile, Hueser's three other children – twin boys and a girl – are in foster care.
The bay's father, Ronald Creech II, who is in the 82nd Airborne Division, has asked for privacy for him and his family as they cope with their loss. He released a statement Monday afternoon, however.
"Harmony's mother was good at deceiving everyone who would ask about Harmony and where she was," 82nd Airborne spokesman Maj. Tom Earnhardt read on behalf of Creech. "The stories were credible and everyone believed her. My goal for the last year was to complete my mission and return home to my children. I have returned home to a tragedy I would not wish upon any parent of any child."
"I think my heart goes out to him the most," Rollins said. "It's been very traumatic for him, being deployed for 15 months, returning thinking he's coming back to a family unit that he's going to enjoy and then have to be faced with this."
"You can imagine the emotional state he was in and still is," the sheriff added."
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Good person (she may have been, but decided at some point she was more important than her children, or anyone else for that matter)? Good mommy (good mommy's do not put themselves in 1st place, nor are charged with murdering one of their children)? I beg to differ with any supporter here, and any further introductions of excuses such as state of mind, out of her mind, consumed by gaming, or suffering from PPD, etc., makes me sick = EXCUSES!!!
Of course, other than "family", and I again want to express how sorry I feel for you all should anyone read this! The support system here, in my opinion, should be in trying to figure out how to keep her other children together, and getting them through this horrific ordeal! So sad, and I hope the children will not remain in foster care amongst strangers for long ~ they are in great need of family love and support!!!
Mike - "It's not as bad as you think"
a good friend of mine is sitting in a jail cell tonight while family and friends are harrassed by the media and everyone is asking why didn't someone notice. Michelle apparently was a very good liar because all of her stories sounded typical and credible. We had no reason to doubt her or check up on the stories she told. Hindsight is 20/20 but I'm tired of people judging me (not really here but in general). Just because I was friends doesn't mean I knew every detail of her life or saw her constantly but it seems like people expect me to have answers for her actions when I'm just as confused or perhaps moreso than those who don't know her.
What happened here is not the michelle I know. Something horrible happened and she freaked. She lost it.
what more can I say.
not important
have we spoke on the phone
not important
go to my homepage you can send me a message there away from prying eyes
I started to comment again last night and left the site to take care of my kids. This morning there sure is a lot more to read.
No matter what the reasoning, rational, insanity - whatever was going on with Michelle - so many lives are changed forever and she shows little to no remorse. Her baby is dead, her surviving three are in foster care and an extended family of relatives, friends and strangers are deeply saddened by the whole event.
My heart goes out to the three kids -I hope that they are together and with people who can love them and make them feel safe!
It also troubles me that a social worker was there in August. There had to be a reason that the system was brought into the home despite nothing being discovered at the time. How sad that tragedy was still the end result!
when i heard there was an amber alert i felt instant sorrow for the mother and family members ,when i found out the truth i was very angry , she manipulated and lied to the world , and i dont feel sorry for her,,,sorry that is just how it is ,,,,on the other hand i think she is ver sick in the head and needs help
Ron's stepmother has been posting here under the name alagirl1961:
http://tinyurl.com/2tobgv
i dont know what to make of her ,,(stepmother) who cares about her wedding ring showing on the news,,,my question is for the three babys now in states custody,,,,poor babies ,,why doesnt ron fight for them ,,,or were he and she not even in a relationship????
Chells a good friend of mine too Not Important. And I agree, something else must have happened here. Shes a very good person at heart. No matter what, I'll always support her. Shes my Bffl.
Velouria,
I found the link very insightful. Thanks for the link.
I feel that families and friends tend to seek the internet during times like these for the same reason that people with no connection to the crime do - to seek out more information that will possibly give answers/reasons for their loved one's actions. My first response to step-mom's words was negative, but I now feel that her attitude is more of a coping mechanism. A "wait and see" response allows a person to deflect the possibility of a more sinister explanation for the death. Same reasoning applies to speculation regarding SIDS, etc. - people do not want to believe that murder can be committed without provocation, but sometimes these types of things defy reason.
That said, I never endorse opinions that rush to judgement without knowledge of the basic details, although I don't feel it has been done in this situation. Steve keeps a good handle on this type of activity, but supporters of Michelle should keep in mind that other internet forums may not practice the same philosophy.
These clueless young people, born and raised as passive receptacles to media, need to get their vacuous heads out of fantasy play and into the real world. I have never met a person obsessed with video games or online games that was in any way normal. Looking into an e-box day and night to get your kicks is sick; if that is all they want to do, send them to prison where they can stare blankly into a box of clickering images forevermore..
does anyone know if they were married or not ,,,according to her myspace she is single,,,i find that to be very strange,,,even if they are not married ,,,and just in a relationship,,,,youd think she would acknowledge it ,just wondering if i was the only person curious about that.(could be she felt the need to get rid of all ties to the father includeing poor little harmony)
Jason - I don't know your homepage. I'm not even sure how you know michelle. I just remember her mentioning your name and I remember your gamer tag from when she played online. She told me how she knew you, but honestly I forgot. I don't have the best memory and I have trouble remembering people I haven't met in person. I would post my e-mail here, but right now no one outside of family knows who I am.
Not Important:
Jason had posted his homepage in earlier posts. I believe it is:
http://www.myspace.com/revrazzz
Not trying to interfere, do not want to be involved, but wanted to help.
Not up there with rape ! Are you serious ? It's a million times worse than rape !!
Not sure if i posted before, but if the baby died of natural causes or lets say SIDS and the mother discovered the baby, wouldn't her reaction be "I have to get an abulance hear right away!" ???? why would she get "scared"? I don't want to hear people say, "She didn't know what to do, she was so afraid".
I know that a mother would not take her beautiful baby and put her in a plastic bag and stuff her in the attic.
Now if somehow she felt responsible for her death, like maybe she left the baby hungry and crying while she play her video games and then discovered her dead, that would be a reason to be SCARED.
She felt guilty and wanted to hide the baby, what was her plan for the future? To pretend her daughter was kidnapped and live with this lie forever? That is really disgusting.
wow I can't spell. oops sorry guys.
Heuser as a woman who showed little remorse throughout the interview process.
A polygraph test "confirmed that she was a habitual liar," he said.
(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21440893/)
this is what i found new at this web source ,,first i have heard of the poligraph,,,could be the reason for the murder charge,,,,
Reality: There has already been mention of the polygraph in the comments above.
RockyMtnMom - you've not interfering, giving me the website was very helpful, as I did not recall seeing it earlier. Thank you for the assistance.
Jason - e-mail was sent through a friend's myspace account, as I have yet to join the 21st century with an account of my own. My e-mail address is included in the message.
everyone else - Thank you for taking a (mostly) objective look at things. I've been reading other comments on various sites and this is the only one I've posted on for that reason. If you knew me, that statement would even more meaningful as I typically keep to myself and don't talk to those I don't know who are completely outside of said event. Take that as a gratuitous and genuine compliment.
Thanks
sorry i missed that RockyMtnMom ,,,wonder when they will get the autopsy report,,,,it really would mae me feel better to know that at the least, her involvment was accidental if she had somethin to do with it
not important
i got your e-mail will reply asap
Memorial Fun Established
http://www.wral.com/news/news_br.../story/1961360/
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Fort Bragg — A memorial fund has been established to help defray costs associated with funeral arrangements for Harmony Creech, whose body was discovered after she had been reported missing last week.
Contributions can be made to the "Harmony Jade Creech Memorial Fund," c/o First Citizens Bank, P.O. Box 70030, Fort Bragg, N.C. 28307-0030.
Contributions are also being accepted at any First Citizens Bank branch office. Checks should be made payable to the "Harmony Jade Creech Memorial Fund."
Correction: Memorial **FUND**
thats what I get for not proofreading
thxs so much for posting that not important
I can only speak for myself in re: to why I feel Ms. Heuser did something purposefully to harm Jade and that is based upon the charges. M1 charges would not be applied to an accident and subsequent cover-up. Had they charged her with M2 or Manslaughter I would be more apt to give the benefit of the doubt towards an accident. The only other wiggle room would be if the "felony muder rule" applied. Meaning that the death may have been accidental, but it occurred during the commission of another felony,(ie: kidnapping, rape, burglary, ect.), hence the M1 charges. I can't see any other felony happening in the home while Ms. Heuser was alone with the children that resulted in Jade's death, though I won't be closed minded to the possibility.
I think this case is a lot more straight foward than anyone would like to believe. That being, this mother purposefully and willfully killed her baby daughter. Throughout the years of studying crime I have become very accustomed to family and friends defending the defendants. It's a natural response in most cases. This one is no different. Making the choice to believe the charges over the friend or family member can sometimes be enough to question humanity, or more personally, question one's own judgement of people. That can be a scarey thought to consider that if charges in certain cases are true, you must never have known that person at all. You only knew the person they wanted you to see.
Regardless of how Jade died, her mother's subsequent disposal of the tiny body, (in a plastic bag, stuffed in a diaper box, hidden in the attic, along with her clothes, bedsheet, ect., as if she never existed), plus her calculating story that she knew would tear Ron apart, compulsive lying to cops, and demeanor in court, tell me all I want or need to know about the true character of this person.
OK, I have read all of this and have felt horrible for everything that has happened. I hope that "mom" gets what she deserves. I do have something to say about the Step-Mom's comments on the website posted earlier.
Here is one of her posts:
"Thank you for your loving concern for our family, and for morally supporting them while there. It is only with horrific grief that my husband said what he did, but I have to agree with him and with maddygreen. I know that our servicemen are employed to go wherever they are sent and during times of war, it is difficult on everyone, even those who don't even have family over there! Ron said what he did because like so many of us, he is tired of this senseless war that we are in now. WRAL actually edited out much bolder statements that he made, thank God! lol
But please, Fuquay, just try to understand my husband's state of mind right now. Actually, I'd say he and his son are both holding together pretty well.... better really than to be expected. Btw, I enjoyed seeing his wedding band up so close on the video... hehe, we have only been married since August of this year! And his love for children is born witness to his tears, and the fact that he loves his job as a teacher and coach. In your first blog, you berated what he said, THEN next stated that you'd take care of them. Just take good care of them, please....he is a fine Christian man who is hurting beyond belief. Feed them? Gather a "love offering"? It's bad enough the grief that losing our baby girl has caused, but the financial burden is heavy, too....no expectations here, but actions do speak louder than words.
Blessings to all of you. G. Creech"
Ok, I understand that there is a financal for funeral costs and all but the fact that this woman posted something like this just 2-3 days into the situation is just SICK to me. I can not believe that she is on a news website or any website for that matter as they are grieving, how does she find that kind of time...further more to make comments as the last one and the financial burden....
Then there is this post she made later:
"Thank you SO much for your kind post and even more so, for your prayers. I have mentioned the Red Cross thing to Ron, but he is unfortunately one of those men whose pride forces him to avoid "making the phone call". He and his nephew (someone mentioned "brother", but it is actually Ron II's cousin who came with my husband), are at this time apparently staying in a local motel, and you are right, being hounded by the media!!!
Perhaps someone, a local, could step out and make a call to the Red Cross? That would be awesome and so much appreciated! As to their staying on base, I'm surprised the commander, or whatever Army official is in charge, has not perhaps offered this? Ron hasn't mentioned it. But also, maybe the motel is closer to where Ron II is? I don't know these things.... as I only talk to Ron II two or three times a day. Again, how
Continued from earlier post:
Again, how can this woman do this? If she has time to post on the website, why doesn't she call the Red Cross herself? I just get sick thinking about what she posted because to me it seems as if she is trying to "cash in" on a horrible situation!
CN- i felt like i was the only one with these feelings i have to agree with you but i think the one thing that sticks out the most that kinda pisses me of was this statement she made..."Btw, I enjoyed seeing his wedding band up so close on the video... hehe, we have only been married since August of this year!" what the hell who cares!!!!! i mean damn this poor child and your heheheheh my wedding rings....all the family so far has chosen the stay out of the spot light why does she continue to talk and talk about things beside the situation at hand she has talked about a couple diffrent family issues that have no connection to the murder of this little baby
cn - I mentioned the above to Ron's family and it is being dealt with accordingly. That was ron's stepmom and she really is a clueless person as far as I can tell.
A lot of support has been offered from both the community and the army and it is being graciously accepted
um... why is the link to my homepage going to someone i dont know is there a hacker here.... if so not cool
Emerson:
I see this exactly as you do, and have from the very beginning. They easily could not have charged her straight away, or charged her with a lesser crime, and later amended it if warranted.
I have to wonder what people are thinking when they believe there is a need to wait for autopsy results in order to charge someone . . . that is either plain naive or stupid (not trying to be offensive to anyone here). The authorities obviously have enough evidence to have charged her either through her confession, after the baby was recovered wherein there was clear and convincing evidence it was no accident, etc.
The most outrageous to me is her lies, aside her actions, of course!
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CN:
I also felt it alarming that a family member, muchless immediate, would have been making such open, and at times outrageous, comments in a forum such as that and at a time such as this! Actually, I even wondered if this was a sicko impersonating a family member. Just a "tad bit" aloof about the entire situation, and it does lead one to wonder if she has/had ulterior motives, i.e., financial, etc. Her candor made me ill!
Jason:
I am not sure what you are up to, but I am calling skunk! You received "Not Important's" message, however, this MySpace homepage is not your's? I do believe Mr. Huff, the owner of this site, has or will check into this! I am not finding your story credible at all, in view of the following:
"not important
i got your e-mail will reply asap
jason | Homepage | 10.23.07 - 8:28 pm"
Not sure how "not important's" message could possibly have been received if this is not your site, and I am now left questioning who exactly you are. Believe me, Mr. Huff will know the how, when, where, time, etc. (I believe that is, as he has shown great knowledge in such matters before, when necessary).
If this is a mistake on my part, please do not take this personally Jason. To assume someone has hacked is serious, and you should not use that term lightly.
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Not Important:
My apologies if I pasted and posted contact info for someone that I now think is questionable, in my opinion. Yes, I did go to his "homepage", and if you are a single guy, I guess the content of his page is what it is. I did not see any "friends" or "comments" posted by any of the parties involved here. However, according to Jason's comments they sound like such good/close friends, they both have MySpace accounts, and yet she is not listed anywhere as either a friend or a poster (that I saw anyway . . . an alias?).
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The above is not important to me in the least (felt I needed to comment as I posted the link for "Not Important", "Jason" is denying it is his homepage, but I cut and pasted it from this site for "Not Important" with good intentions).
This is about poor dear Harmony, and what her mother has allegedly done. Again, my prayers to all family, Harmony's brothers/sister, and family!
I kissed/hugged my babies over and over today, as usual, and still just cannot shake the thought of a dead baby being in the home . . . with (or even without) other children . . . gawd, what in the hell is happing in our society??? This has got to stop! NO MORE SLACK ~ you commit a crime against a child (ANY CRIME), you will be put away FOREVER!!! Oh yeah, and in general population, as life in prison gives you the protection your child deserved, or any child you committed a crime against!!! Life without parole, and let the other's in there take care of it.
I do not condone violence, but you commit a crime against a child, you should live the rest of our days in PURE and UNPROTECTED hell)!!! Every child violated at the hands of such criminals live the rest of their lives dealing with what has happened to them, if they survive in the first instance!
MOTHERS, if you are feeling sick, mean, irritated, cannot cope, need a break, etc. . . . SEEK HELP! DO NOT HARM, BEAT, ABUSE, STARVE, AND/OR KILL YOUR CHILD!!! There is help available, and THERE IS NO EXCUSE . . . NOT ONE!!!
If she did cause Harmon
To CN and Emerson,,,
Dito to what the both of you said about the stepmother,,,my first instinct after i read those paticular things about the wedding ring and the money ,,,was anger,,,if it is her, i feel she is tryin to gain money and attention,,,Cn those were my thoughts exactly,,,who gives a damn about her stupid wedding ring,,,(come on ) there has to be some damn good evidence that is not being released for them to already announce she is being (CHARGED)with murder,,,,instead of the usual under suspician of murder,,,in all the years ive watched ,,,i have never heard reports on the news that way,,,unless they had proof and were sure,,,maybe i am wrong,,i am just sayin i have never personally seen that before,,,
Jason,,,,nothin personal ,,,but how is it you say there is a hacker just because someone has gone to your link,,,,its right there under your name,,,i have gone to everyones link here ,,,sorry, i thought thats why they were posted ,,,now mine is not because i dont want people knowing who i am ,,,im just here as a curious ,and careing person , and i like to keep up with the latest,,,,maybe you should in the future not post your home page if you dont want people to go to your site,,,,and in reference to your site,,,if this is you ,,, maybe you should contact authorities of what one of your freinds commented on your page,,,,,i would if it were me ,,,(if this friend is tellin the truth ) no disrespect to you ,,,but i thought it was why folks posted there home page.
look now i dont know how my homepage info got messed up but it did my homepage is
www.myspace.com/revrazzz
i emailed Not Important over this matter and he/she being a real friend of hers asked me to send him info wich only a real friend would know and i did and then some i will not stand there and let you call me out over a bad link.
ive know her for over 7 years her sons love me sadly i never got to see the baby and i will live with that the rest of my life. i have a few pics of her and her kids in my home at times sometimes i even get mail here in her name being she used to live here a few years ago not with me but she live at the same addy.
Jason, our homepages show up with our comments! Chill! See mine? I put the link there, anyone can see it and click it, didn't you know that?! Well, now you do. That is how the person posted your homepage so not important could contact you.
Adding, sometimes you have to put the link in with each post, sometimes you don't.
reality:
i did not say hacker cuz people are going to my page but on a few of my post the info got changed and that was not my page
KatK:
i understand that very well
all my saing is read up at all my post on a few the homepage is not mine and i dont know why trust me im as chill as i can be still comeing to grips with what she did. as for her not being on my friends list on myspace there is a reason for that and i and her both understand why .
as for ppl saying i dont know what im talking about/ trying to do here by makeing post at least Ron knows im real and my story is real as well as long as i know the truth i stand by my word
You don't have a homepage link on a few of your posts, is that what you mean? Try reading around this site a bit more Jason. I think you'll find even people whose words you currently hate have a somewhat similar mindset to you. For example, do a search for Tori and Dean on this site, or click the link to A Voice for Tori and Dean.
We have seen babies hurt, and killed so many times. There comes a point when you see that a parent is arrested for the death of a child, and you cannot find a single reason to excuse them. That is where "we" are coming from. We've gone past the point of seeing such things as even remotely "it isn't their fault". There are rare, rare cases where I can see "it isn't their fault", but it takes a good deal of evidence and convincing to make the idea unshakeable. I don't see the evidence here, and I don't really see it coming in the future either. I think she's like Trenton Duckett's mother, a psycopath who is very good at conning people into seeing what she wants them to see. That kind of psychopath is dangerous and should not be out in society. (Some psychopaths don't murder, they "just" manipulate others, cheat when they can get away with it, and steal. They are sometimes seen in the guise of corporate bullies.)
Jason, I just scrolled up and looked at your posts. Mouseover shows that each post where you put in your homepage goes to your MySpace page. The others just don't have any homepage link in them at all. The # sign isn't the homepage. Don't you feel silly, at your age to be yelling about "haxxors" when it is your mistakes, and not hacking?
http://snipurl.com/1sn4o This link is the results of a Google search that has the blog entries about Tori Vienneau and Dean Springstube. Here is a link to the website set up to help find Justice.