Oh, good lord, not again.
Please keep us informed on this one Steve, thanks.
First thing that popped into my mind was Trenton Duckett.
'sigh'
Um... my baby is always fussing my 8 AM to eat... She didn't find that strange?
Oh, I imagine a lot of us could ask similar questions. All my kids were getting us up at all hours still at 11 months, for various reasons.
I linked the Google search for Trenton Duckett's name for a reason. Something just rings hollow here already.
Holy cow! It does parallel Trenton Duckett's vanishing, *way* too closely! I hope she is found alive and well, but I feel a sick feeling in my gut. Prayers for Harmony's father, his family, and all those who truly loved that baby.
Is this true? Sexual predators are responsible for more in house abductions of infants than women who steal babies to raise as their own?
Ive never heard of a sexual predator abducting a baby from home. Im sure it happens, unfortunately, just dont know of an example- Ive heard many stories of women abducting babies to keep however.
Yes, does sound like Trenton.
If all the childs belongings are also missing at least this may indicate that the child is still alive- has been given away/adopted out. I hope.
ellalittle, you drew a statement out of what you read that I didn't make. I don't know if you were twisting words on purpose or not. I hope you didn't mean to, because that kind of thing is a big pet peeve of mine. It happens with dialogs on the Web so much it's one reason I loathe most message board discussions. If I'd wanted to say more sexual predators abduct children from homes than other types of criminal, I'd have said it. But I didn't. I don't know the statistics on such things. I only have my experience from years of researching crimes of all kind to draw upon. I rejected the idea that the child was abducted by a predator in stating that it was very rare. I rejected the idea that a crazy child-seeking woman did it because yes, the instances I know of where women do such things are rare.
When they do, it seems like they often kill the mother and take an infant either just born or still in utero, like Bobbi Montgomery allegedly did.
A crime like this smacks of personal cause so far. The most benign possibility is that the child was surreptitiously adopted out. Let's hope that's it, and she's ok.
I read this last night Steve and wanted to wait till today to see if there was any news beacuse as soon as you outlined the story it had that ominous feel to it. Just like with the Nailah Franklin case recently where the story immediately had the ending written, well, not the responsible party quite yet, but her fate. Of course, it's not rocket science in these types of cases to have gut feelings after studying crime for so long, unfortunately. As always, I hope we are proved wrong and that there is some crazy, yet loving person who took this child, or her mother made at least a half-hearted attempt to love the child by giving her to someone who wanted her. We can pray anyways.
Trenton's story still haunts me. Maybe it's b/c of moderating that crazy message board, but either way it is one of the cases that has continued to bother me. Hopefully this will not be another case with no answers.
Do you all remember the case of the woman who was convicted of taking her child to a lake and supposedly hitting it with a rock and leaving it for dead, then went home to be found later by her husband asleep taking a nap, and pretended someone had come in and stolen the baby? She later confessed that the baby accidentally drowned in baby tub, but the evidence proved otherwise. (It was a newborn.) Her husband stood by her even in the face of all of the evidence. Harmony's case reminds me more of that case. Especially concerning is the missing bed sheet and the fact that she was not reported missing until 11am. My alarm bells go off my child sleeps 10min extra! If anything kids are consistent with wake-up times at this age.
By "wake-up" times, I'm talking about in the morning btw, not the middle of the night which, as we all know, is craziness.
Her dad was meeting her for the first time. Does it make any sense to anyone that Harmony's mom would not have been making sure that child was up and dressed in her cutest outfit, happy, fed, and ready to play since he had never met her? That would have been a big deal. One that a caring and considerate mom would have wanted to be prepared for, even if she wasn't with the father any longer. At the very least, she should have checked on her before they arrived to see if she was awake yet, and that's me giving a lot of leniency. We need to know exactly where that mother was in the hours preceeding this and who was the last person other than her to see Harmony. The other children in the home hopefully saw or heard something.
No. So far nothing makes sense in this case.
I was struck by Johni having 3 kids already -- all under 5. Those kids were not Creech's. For some reason, this plays into the "hinky" feeling I got when I first read about Harmony's disappearance. And why do we only have a photo from months ago to go on? The child surely looks very different now. She's a bald baby in that Amber Alert photo.
Police are certainly checking the mom out, or she wouldn't have still been under questioning on Friday night.
I'm am on the same page as Steve and Emerson! Even though some of my children sleep-in occasionally, I always check on them when I wake up, and even if I wake in the night. This does not appear to me to be an abduction at all.
Hopefully another poor child has not passed at the hands of a parent. I, too, also thought this so similar to the disappearance of Trenton Duckett 
One article states the dad and his mom returned home. Then another states they went to the home the baby lived in with the mother. If it's the latter one then it doesn't sound like there was an ongoing relationship between the mother and father. Especially if no one cared enough to be up and ready to welcome a returning soldier. And grandma and her son had to wake the mother up at 11am? With 4 kids how do you manage that one? Seriously, I think alot of us moms would like to know her secret!
The timing of the baby going missing is what sticks out for me. How long has the baby really been missing? When was the last time the other kids saw her? It's almost like time ran out because the baby's father came home and gee whiz, someone kidnapped the baby last night.
Someone at Websleuths posted an update on this. *sad*
http://websleuths.com/forums/sho...ead.php?
t=55223
Not a surprise, the story made no sense and after looking in her background, I felt this was going to have a horrific outcome.
Do you all remember the case of the woman who was convicted of taking her child to a lake and supposedly hitting it with a rock and leaving it for dead, then went home to be found later by her husband asleep taking a nap, and pretended someone had come in and stolen the baby? She later confessed that the baby accidentally drowned in baby tub, but the evidence proved otherwise. (It was a newborn.) Her husband stood by her even in the face of all of the evidence. Harmony's case reminds me more of that case.
Heidi Anfinson. They found microorganisms from the lake in the child's lungs, proving that he was alive when she put him in the water. Last I heard she was still filing her appeals, claiming post-partum depression.
Since she had 4 children under the age of 5, post-partum depression might turn out to be the defense in this death too.
I'm with you SuzieQ,
This little bubba could have been gone since birth and the Newborn photo is what gets me thinking that way.
I know that I didn't take as many photo's of my second born as my first but I was still snapping away as were friends and extended family.
It's the window screen thing too and the fact that an 11 mth old was not checked on for 12 hrs!!
My youngest was walking at that age and my oldest even earlier (couldn't wait for them to walk and then realised I was crazy!!!!) and therefore were able to climb etc...
I would panic if they didn't wake me in the morning first and would dread the walk to their room to check on them.
Emerson, I still think about Trenton all the time too and even my husband , who thinks I'm a bit of a Ghoul, sometimes asks me if anything has been heard.
He got right under my skin and I am going to keep my distance from this one if I can....
Thanks Velouria! I was racking my brain on that one. That case just ticked me off with her weak a@@ husband standing beside her in the face of ridiculous evidence. They really stated that they were going to try for another child when she was awaiting her second trial. Ugh.
Poor, poor Harmony. It's so infuriating to read stories like this when the victims are the most innocent among us. IF Harmony was found deceased in her bed by her mother, then why on earth would she stage an abduction with window screen, clothing, sheet, and timing? I'd love to believe that this sweet baby just passed away from some unknown reason, peacefully in her sleep, but I think we will learn otherwise. Drowning, shaking, smothering, all come to mind.
When was this woman going to wake the eff up and stop spitting out children? She put her own dumb self in the situation of having the stress of 4 children under 5. These children didn't do this to her, (meaning, creating a stressful life), she made a conscious decision to be foolish and loose. Sorry for the rant, I'm just pissed.
Thanks Velouria! I was racking my brain on that one. That case just ticked me off with her weak a@@ husband standing beside her in the face of ridiculous evidence. They really stated that they were going to try for another child when she was awaiting her second trial. Ugh.
Poor, poor Harmony. It's so infuriating to read stories like this when the victims are the most innocent among us. IF Harmony was found deceased in her bed by her mother, then why on earth would she stage an abduction with window screen, clothing, sheet, and timing? I'd love to believe that this sweet baby just passed away from some unknown reason, peacefully in her sleep, but I think we will learn otherwise. Drowning, shaking, smothering, all come to mind.
When was this woman going to wake the eff up and stop spitting out children? She put her own dumb self in the situation of having the stress of 4 children under 5. These children didn't do this to her, (meaning, creating a stressful life), she made a conscious decision to be foolish and loose. Sorry for the rant, I'm just pissed.
This really makes me sick, especially because I live less than 10 miles away in Fayetteville. I wanted to believe that she had just been kidnapped and was ok. This woman has other children, and I'm sure they all have different fathers. It seems to me that she's just having kids, but there's no real love there for them. The father is a G.I. There are so many cases of child abuse and deaths, I hope that it stops! Something needs to be done, and her other kids should be taken away at the very least.
Saying here what I said at the Websluths topic. You are right in that game character names aren't allowed to be used by more than one person in the game. *BUT* the game might allow people to use a different name for the official site/forums. (Not everyone does though.) The reason is, this way people's accounts are more secure and can't get hacked or stolen as easily, and if someone has met the player "in game" and decided they don't like them, they cannot harass the person on the forums. So, Chellbell might be her on the shops, or it might not. Probably it is though.
Actually, the game has more then one server, and for every server there could be someone with this name. Most every modern MMORPGs works this way. With a little research on their server count, it looks like not even counting the test server, since 90% of people have a main server even if they play on a test server, there could be 32 possible people with that name. Also, unlike most other MMORPGs FFXI's servers are world wide servers, and not separated by region like most games.
Anyways, I really hope she didn't hurt that sweet little baby, but its really hard not to think something is so very messed up here.
Sorry for the double post. I didn't send it through twice, so not sure what happened.
Here's some more info:
"Neighbors said they had been bothered by a foul smell for several weeks and that the smell only subsided recently when overnight temperatures dropped. Several neighbors said they had searched their yards for dead animals because of the smell."
"Rollins said Creech was picked up at Pope Air Force Base on Friday by his mother and driven to his daughter's home near Spring Lake. They awakened the baby's mother and found the baby missing."
http://tinyurl.com/39e93b
So this woman was living in a home with three small children that had the odor of death ruminating for WEEKS! I don't know if it is PPD or not, it seems more likely (reading from her narcissistic MS pg) that she may have neglected the baby or lost her temper. JMO. Maybe her being asleep when the father came was part of the plan.
look people i know her very well is/was a good friend with a tough life what is done is done its sad i know. this no good outcome to this matter. the death of a small baby is very sad and my heart gos out about the lose. but till the truth comes out please dont pass judment
thank you
Hi Jason - I don't mean any disrespect, but, you said "til the truth comes out, please don't pass judgement" and I have to ask...so, what's the "truth" then???
I think that we are all getting a little of tired of mommies and daddies committing these terrible crimes (yes, there was quite obviously a crime committed here whether poor little Harmony died of natural causes or not) and then the loved ones have all these excuses or reasons why they did what they did.
I'll say it. I don't that Johni deserves any sympathy OR your excuses for why she has 4 kids under the age of 5 (okay, 3 kids now under the age of 5) and why one of those kids was rotting in her attic while she was playing fantasy games on-line.
well darby its a sad story yes with no good out come but unless you in her shoes you cant make a call on this can you. i know her shes a good person and even good people make bad calls win there scared. its jest sad so many ppl sit at home and harp one outher peoples mis deeds i guess you a saint the can do no wrong what she did was wrong 100% and we all know this. i dont know why she did what she did and i wish it was not true but we will never know what was in her mind maybee playing ffxi was a way to deal with the gref she most of been feeling i dont know any more then you do i play ffxi as well names razzzak on there and trust me there are many many good people on there so dont judge a game by the actions of one player. like look at football do you damn the team for the actions of one player no you dont same rule works on this matter as well
According to WRAL in Raleigh, the mother has been arrested and will appear in court first thing on Monday morning.
Jason, you're doing exactly what you're asking others to NOT do, only in your case you're doing it in in Johni's favor. What you're saying here is no more neutral than the statements of people who think that IF she is responsible for the child's death, she should fry, or spend the rest of her natural life in jail.
In a perfect world, neither you nor anyone you're addressing would pass judgment either way, but that's just not human nature.
It's human nature for all the parents posting here in particular to simply read that this baby might have been decomposing, ROTTING in the attic above Johni Heuser's head for weeks and want something bad to happen to the woman. We've all got our failures as parents, but even if Johni had no responsibility for the baby's DEATH, the fact that she could just stow her in the attic like that is appalling to most people. Especially (again), if you're a parent yourself.
I do appreciate you trying to state your case in a civil way, Jason, and I'd really like to encourage anyone who addresses Jason to do likewise. I get accused of not allowing comments through that don't agree with something I think or feel, but that's not true. I just don't allow assholes to post here -- people who believe stating their case involves proactively insulting and ridiculing anyone who doesn't see things their way. That doesn't cover jason, from the sound of things, and I thank him and respect his need to say something in his friend's defense.
thanks for being civil as well 
all that i do hope is that baby finds peace like you i cant get my head around this but knowing her for years jest makes it worse.
Hi Jason and Steve - I sheepishly thank you both for reining in my (at times) "holier than thou" attitude (Steve, for providing details and insight into these horrifying yet intriguing crimes, and Jason for showing me that friends are friends, no matter what.)
At any rate, my only beef was that I truly feel that there is always somebody making excuses or saying that we don't know for sure until the facts come out what the truth is, and sometimes...it just is what it is.
I can't completely gloss over the fact that the victim is who we should focus on, not the "good person" that in fact committed this crime.
I honestly wasn't for or against the fantasy game playing and don't know anything about that particular game, but, my point was that she was wrapped up in that game rather than parenting.
Anyways. I read Steve's posts and articles and when I read about the Amber Alert and then the circumstances, I knew full well what the outcome would be.
well said
Wow, I keep reading this hoping that there is a new update --- Harmony is fine and meeting her daddy for the first time, smiling and babbling while they play. But that isn't going to happen - not ever.
I don't know what happen and yes, Jason, hopefully the truth will come out. But as a mom of little ones myself, I question so many things. The timing of everything, her odd details, the whole thing with her internet life... I barely have enough time to check my email some days even when my husband is home and with the kids! And what about the other kids? Yes they are young but they were old enough to realize that their baby sister wasn't there. I hope and pray that they are kept completely innocent. This is a horror no children need to know. (for clarification purposes - I am not in any way placing blame on the other kids.)
Unfortunately death can occur with babies unexpectadly (SIDS, suffocation by a blanket or stuffed animal -although not common with 11 month olds). But not contacting medical help, police, or any one to help? Then hiding the baby in an attic to rot? And I can't remember the intitial posting with time frames but I know of not one parent that doesn't check on sleeping kids a few times during the night. I know if mine aren't up by 7:30 in morning, instead of embracing the opportunity to sleep late, my maternal fear hits me that something could be wrong and I am wide awake regardless. And my kids are older. And then her attempt to cover it up? She definitely took the time to think a lot of those details out - especially the Daddy's Girl jammies.
Maybe I am placing judgement? Yeah I am. But why is it that you have to have a license to do everything but be a parent? Johni may be a good person, but that does NOT make someone a good parent. (and before anyone starts yelling at me I am I am far from being a perfect parent, some days maybe not even a good one. But my kids are my priority always.)
Johni now has to live with the consequences of her choices and actions. Whether she is guilty of Harmony's death or not, a beautiful baby is dead and treated with more disrespect that I can fathom. And there is a daddy who just returned from serving his country who will never even get to hold her.
my heart gos out to the dad and his famly both famlys that is and i thank him for serving his country for all us
I think we can safely assume if they are charging her with Murder then they have evidence that is indicative of her purposefully causing this child's death. We could assume this may be due to a confession since an autopsy may not have been completed yet. Or, maybe one has been completed. With the child being so decomposed however, it seems likely that a confession was garnered.
Jason- What I can't seem to wrap my head around in re: to your friend is why she continued to have children. It only takes one baby to realize that and yet she continued down the same path X's 4. It's not a wonder she would have snapped with all of the pressure, but that's completely her fault for bringing such pressure upon herself.
This just seems so darn preventable and that's why it is so frickin frustrating.
Julia ~ "Maybe I am placing judgement? Yeah I am. But why is it that you have to have a license to do everything but be a parent? Johni may be a good person, but that does NOT make someone a good parent."
I've said this many times. We don't want to be like China and force abortions and such, but there must be some solution.
It used to be that the marriage license was the license to have kids, but that was a couple of centuries ago. They teach sex education in schools, so why not parenting education?
Maybe they should require every parent to pass a test or be put on probation so that a child's caretaking can be monitored if they can't pass the test. This may sound cruel to Libertarians, but times have changed. Not everybody should be allowed to have kids.
Simply heartbreaking Even the cases where a mother has killed her child/children, and has been shown to be a complete mental case, contacted authorities to report what they had done or summon help.
Putting her baby in the attic is beyond words, and I have no doubt there is something sinister here. For her to live with not only this precious baby's dead body in the residence, but to deal with the odor, and all while her other babies are in the home, etc. ~ this to me is nothing short of EVIL? Oh, yes, and the timing of it all is equally as suspicious. I hope I am wrong, but even if the baby had passed of natural causes, there is NO EXCUSE to do what she has done!!! Sick or not! I am curious if there have been reports to CPS in the past.
I feel so terrible for her other children, the father and his family, as well as the family of this sick sick sorry excuse for a mother. May baby Harmony rest in peace, and feel all of the love and warmth any child deserves!
* * * * * * * * * *
I just read in the updates that she has now been charged ~ I am beyond words. Emerson, you nailed it ~ there had to have been a confession for a charge this early in the case, unless there was clear and convincing evidence of murder. Just beyond disturbing!!! I am convinced this was completely out of the need for control, self-centeredness, and not wanting to share this poor baby with her father and father's family.
She deserves the worst the U.S. has to offer! Yes, from one mother to another.
don't trust the supposed "facts" in this article... the only news service that is reporting the truth is www.wral.com
this one is full of assumptions and flat out lies and misrepresentations. I'm a friend and I know what has and hasn't happened with the investigation
and no, I will not post any updates or information related to this. The only information I will give out is what you can find on the previously mentioned website. I typically dislike the media and want nothing to do with them, but they have been the most accurate (about 95%) as far as facts are concerned
whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
I've avoided commenting on the latest updates because, well, I'm very disgusted. I don't care how the story is spun or who is reporting accurately. At best this so called "good person" put her baby in the attic to rot. At worst she killed her baby. The last time I checked, good people do not do either one.
Not important - She'll have her day in court and that's where the presumption of innocence applies. Outside of the courtroom, it's fair game to discuss and opine on the case. Nothing reported thus far, including by WRAL, offers a credible explanation as to why a baby was left to rot by her own mother. And that's assuming her story of finding the baby dead is even true.
I had forgotten that some games let people have a duplicate name on another server. Anyone know what server she played on? Does the buying account name mention a server? Does each server have it's own marketplace out-of-game, or do all the merchants gather in one place and just mention their server? Surely there would be an indication as to server on the marketplace somewhere? It does no good to purchase the item you want for your character on the wrong server. (Since in games like that the character is locked to a certain server.)
Hi SuziQ, I see we're on the same page on this one. This story disgusted me too, and for people to make excuses adds insult to injury. I understand that it's difficult to believe that a friend or family member is capable of something so horrible, but let's use some critical thinking skills! Does her story make any sense? What about this poor baby? Is it possible that she found the baby dead because she had neglected her in some way and then panicked?
The reason I ask about servers and the like is, I wasn't able to play online MMORPGs after my mother's death, and for quite some time. (I did play a few mindless flash games that were along the lines of Solataire though.) I think if she was able to play FFXI it may point at the least to an addictive personality, escapism.
Ok, the Auction House is for the Siren server, so I ask again, any indication of what server she played on?
Ok, that Chellbell is probably Johni. How do I infer this? Because on her MySpace profile she has an image of her character with a character named Cronsmoke. Well, I went to Faces of FFXI, and looked up the Siren server. There is a Cronsmoke there.
http://snipurl.com/1sh9o
I didn't find any of her other friends there, nor did I find her, but I did find one of her friend's friends on there.
RPGFaces.com: http://www.rpgfaces.com/
Also, a search through the AuctionHouse site for player names found in her FFXI screenshots shows that only one server has each of those names: Siren. That's her.
Clarifying. Some of the names of the characters found in Johni's FFXI album appear on other servers, but *ONLY ONE* server has a Chellbell, and *ONLY ONE* server has all those names: Siren.
missmerlyn - all we want as friends and family is an explanation. None of us are looking for excuses - there is no excuse for the tragedy and the lies and deception. I do understand that everyone wants a "credible explanation" ... my whole reason for even posting to this board was because the truth is already so clouded and horrific that I do not want to support a site that makes bold assuptions and states them as fact. This does nothing to find the "credible explanation."
I simply wanted to make sure that those who actually want to know what's going on and who want to follow the true story should check other sources like wral.com
Take it as you will, it doesn't matter to me as I understand that the internet is a place for opinion and discussion. I just like for the discussion to be based off of known honest facts as it tends to lead toward more productive discussion.
I suppose I'm just tired of hearing everyone condemning her to death when its a distinctive difference between a murderer and someone who is grossly irresponsible and negligent. This is a matter for the courts to decide and to sift through the information and figure out what truly happened
Like I said before, all that any one of us wants is to know exactly what happened. Until that is figured out, I will not share my opinion or belief on the matter
From your preferred website for info WRAL:
"Family members of the Harnett County mother charged with murder in her baby’s death said they continue to support her, but they don’t understand what happened.
“My daughter obviously was not in the right state of mind,” said Hannibal Irrizary, father of Michelle Heuser, 25. “This is not in her character, you know, the stuff that has gone on.”
"Heuser was charged with first-degree murder Saturday after investigators found her 11-month-old daughter, Harmony Jade Creech, dead in the family’s attic."
“If it had not been for them keeping my son for three tours of duty, my son would have been home, possibly keeping this from happening,” the elder Ronald Creech said.
Although he’s angry, he said he would support Heuser. The one thing that comforts him is knowing his son got to meet Harmony once, briefly, before she died."
“He got to hold her. That’s something I’ll never get to do,” Ronald Creech I said."
So Ronald is going to support her?? We're talking about 1st degree murder here, not accidental death. Of course, people who know her will claim that she was out of her mind, because it's too hard for them to wrap their mind around an out n' out evil action. BUT, we're talking about a woman who purposefully (according to the charges, most likley based upon confession) killed an 11 month old girl and hid her body in an attic for at least two weeks, living with the stench of death for all that time while still caring for three other children. So did she remain "out of her mind" for weeks? Typically when someone is nuts they don't go about an elaborate cover-up, (removed screen, clothes, bed sheet, bibs, "Daddy's girl" jammies), included.
I've cited the sources I used to write this. They include WRAL. It's all right there. The only things in this post not drawn from a mainstream media source of info are the MySpace info and the MMORPG info.
Readers are handling "not important" with great civility, but always remember that family members of someone accused of a crime are generally the least likely people to "listen" to anything you say. And my experience has been that they are the most likely to end up angrily "trolling" comments -- often even after a loved one has been convicted of a crime.
That said, Ms. Heuser hasn't been convicted of anything, and we should remember that. But part of this "being America" is that we're free to discuss the story from the moment it's published anywhere.
And if I had a dime for every time someone has trotted out that "innocent until proven guilty" canard in blog comments. "Innocent until proven guilty" has the force of law inside a courtroom, and once a trial is under way, it deserves great respect. Outside the courtroom, people may attempt out of fairness to maintain that posture, but it's human nature to ask questions, and ask them sometimes from a skeptical point of view. That Harmony was reportedly (by ALL SOURCES, including WRAL) found in the attic of the home and may have been there for at least a couple of weeks. Few people can make sense of that, including me.
I do have to ask my final question -- why the hell do people read and post to blog comments at a time like this, when a loved one is in deep, serious trouble? I'll never be able to make sense of that -- for a person close to someone like Ms. Heuser or even Mr. Creech, it makes no sense that you'd bother (though I'll keep letting your comments publish, unless they become abusive or insulting towards anyone else here).
My late brother had a long criminal record and was always an inch away from some sort of disastrous trouble with law enforcement. Had something happened to him, had he been accused of something terrible, I can imagine writing about it at some point, but not anytime soon after it happened, and I can't imagine at all barging into message board or weblog discussions. Those things would seem utterly unimportant by comparison.
The people posting here are coming from all over the U.S. and other parts of the world, too -- just look at the "feedjit" thing on the right/bottom sidebar. They aren't necessarily your next-door neighbors. So they can be forgiven if they're a little too skeptical or at the least neutral for your taste.
Also -- don't make the mistake of thinking any journalist from any outlet, especially a regional TV station, is "on your side." They are not. The best ones are on the side of truth, and finding out the truth about anything they report. Many others, though, are on the side of getting the story that brings in the best ratings, and they could care less about you or your family, no matter what they say. I'm just saying this in a general way, not pointing out any one particular reporter. It's based on having been a paid journalist and on my experience with them as the subject or source for a piece of reporting.
the siren but what the hells it matter not a damn thing im in that same server Cronsmoke is there too please ppl get a life and leave a game alone i got more game pics on my myspace page then pics or real life so sue me THIS MATTER IS ABOUT A POOR BABY NOT A MMORP OR THE PPL SHE MIGHT OF KNOW IN IT thank you
per server there can only be one char named anyone thing im on the same server she was with about 30k outer people at any one time my name is Razzzak on there like real life in game i know her i know Cronsmoke as well but i must ask you this why did you toss Cronsmokes name into this sad mess. is not bad nuff that so many lifes are being taken down by this sad mattar why are you people draging anyone into it that you can find a pic of or the smallist bit of useless info think that one over will you and after your done doing that go look inn a mirror and if your looking for someone to judge then there you go its up to the courts now not a hand full of web blogers
Steve i thank you agen for being civil with me on this matter but some people on this site need to stop pointing fingers at things they know zero about. this is a sad matter for so many ppl and im one of em theim kids mean the world to me ive seen there smiles. i dont know why she did what she did and we might never know the truth but all i do know is some of you people make me sick end of story
I agree with you Jason, MMORP has nothing to do with this tragedy except for MAYBE (and no one knows yet) she was so obsessed with her online life that she neglected her baby. It's happened before. That being said, it wouldn't have mattered whether it was online gaming, or drugs, or alcohol or TV, if she was trying to escape reality she would have found a way to do it.
Jason:
Your statement, ". . .some of you people make me sick", is almost as mind boggling as the horrific actions of this selfish mother!
As for her gaming activities, I could care less, and if you read the entire content of the comments, not many have even made mention of it. Actually, you are shining the spotlight, which just might peak some viewer's interests.
I am sorry that you are personally connected to this in the first place. However, I am deeply puzzled by your comments, and especially in light of the fact that you claim "theim kids mean the world to me I've seen there smiles", yet you continue to defend this woman by maintaining she is a good person. Yet, I always appreciate another's point of view, opinions, conclusions, speculations, reactions, etc.
Having said that, I am in no way trying to be disrespectful, but am still baffled how any of our comments could possibly make you sick. What about poor baby Harmony, her father, her siblings, and her extended family? Are they also going to be judged unfairly by you for possibly being angry, confused, etc., at the actions of this so called mother?
sorry i was a bit rude there
steve - "why the hell do people read and post to blog comments at a time like this, when a loved one is in deep, serious trouble? I'll never be able to make sense of that -- for a person close to someone like Ms. Heuser or even Mr. Creech, it makes no sense that you'd bother"
-- I'm on the outside looking in. There's nothing I can do from where I stand except to be there for friends and family. All my comments have been in the middle of the night when I can't sleep because I'm so disturbed about what's going on. From where I stand this is completely surreal and unbelieveable.
"From where I stand this is completely surreal and unbelieveable."
That makes a lot of sense. I can't understand what you yourself are going through since such an experience is truly unique, but I can certainly believe it's truly surreal, disturbing, unbelievable, you name it.
From the update on this morning's hearing:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/s.../story/1954649/
"In addition to the diaper box where Harmony's body was found, investigators seized trash bags filled with baby clothes and shoes, written directions to a nearby trash dump, a computer, a cell phone, a pipe and financial records from Heuser's home, according to court documents."
My God, I suppose it's at least a good thing she didn't leave that poor child at the dump, or she might have never been recovered...And the part about the trash bags filled with baby clothes, well - one more chilling parallel to the Duckett case.
Somehow I can't get over the fact that this girl told the Harmony's father that she was wearing "Daddy's Girl" pajamas when she went missing. Even if Ms. Heuser was telling the truth about the circumstances surrounding the baby's death, that's just plain evil.
I spoke with someone who has dealt with cases similar to this one, but who is not involved with this one.
They believe that by concealing the death and keeping the remains that the mother was not able to let her daughter go. If she was a murderer or did not want the child, chances are that she would have put the remains in the garbage rather than to keep them. Quote- "she might feel it would be better to tell her husband the child vanished than hit him with the fact the child died" and also "maybe it was fear of his sadness and wishing to spare him that motivated her"
Keep in mind that the above is one theory, it's not proven right or wrong but knowing her personally I believe it is on the right track.
At any rate... as much as I hate assumptions, I think it is safe to assume that she is definitely a disturbed person who was not thinking clearly or at all.
Velouria - as far as the information siezed by police officers "written directions to a nearby trash dump" That could've been for anyone. It is a very rural, country-type setting and there is no local trash pickup. Residents generally have a permit for residential use of the local dump. For all we know, a cousin or friend may have taken trash to the dump for her and needed directions to get there.
Steve - thanks for at least editing harmony's middle name. And you are correct, many sources stated the wrong name from the beginning and I do not fault you for that. At the same time, I do appreciate you changing it on as friends and family called the baby girl by her middle name.
Steve - "If you want something corrected, I need more than an allusion to what might be wrong. Also, you may want to employ a bit of middle-school reading comprehension skill and check and see where I may have gotten information before you go blaming this blog for anything."
I realize that this is directed towards me, and I will not give any more information that is not already available on wral. Just let me say that if you have 2 conflicting reports then wral is the correct one. Take it as you will. Also understand that I am very familiar with your sources which is why I want to point you in the right direction. I will not give specific information because as of yet the media doesn't know anything about me and I would like it to stay this way.
I do not blame your blog for anything, as you are reporting things the way you perceive it to be. I read through some of my last posts and I realize that I was not exactly the kindest with words towards your site and I do apologize. As I'm sure you and everyone else can understand, it's been a very stressful and emotional time for everyone involved and at times tempers become short. I do apologize
stress trying know first hand the people in the story you talking about as well as i do thats real stress
Well, I do think that it is important to point out that per one of the articles from WRAL, Johni said that she did not report little baby Harmony Jade's death because of "fear."
Now, that to me speaks of fear of something other than the fear of Harmony Jade's daddy finding out that the baby was dead, and not just deceased, but, up in the attic where even the neighbors could smell her.
The fear I envision is the "Oh shit, what have I done, I've got to hide this" rather than the pure, raw grief that other mommies might have had, had they truly came upon their little baby not breathing in the crib.
I mean, who makes that leap from "Oh my god, she's dead" to "I have a plan and it includes the attic."
The fact that Johnie immediately took the route that included putting this beautiful, 11 month old little girl into a diaper box along with her clothes, etc., shows a cover-up which should not have entered a non-murderers mind. If you came upon your little one not breathing in your crib, you would call 911 or your mom or somebody to come and help. Not hide the baby and then, out of necessity, come up with an abduction plan.
I'm just saying. It is what it is. Maybe the baby was crying one night, Johni was tired or wanting to get back to her fantasy game, her 3 other little ones were giving her a hard time as little ones will, and she had a moment where she did something serious. And then she had to cover up that "something serious."
I am sorry to assume. But, we do have facts in this situation, per WRAL, and it's getting harder and harder to stomach these crazy mothers.
Please, Jason and Not Interested, don't attack me too hard.
I also saw the video on WRAL that showed her showing no emotion and I am going by that as well.
I do wish you peace as you go forward in this with her and my prayers are of course with the father and little baby Harmony Jade.
I also do have to say that after hours of being interview by law enforcement, the charge is First Degree Murder.
Not 2nd degree...or manslaughter...or child neglect...or even desecration of a human corpse.
Her own confession must have led LE to believe that this warranted 1st degree murder, which is the most serious.
"...a pipe and financial records from Heuser's home, according to court documents."
A pipe? Lead pipe or something used for smoking?
So her family are standing by her , that's fantastic . How did this loving family not notice that Harmony was missing ? Neighbours noticed a rotten smell from the place , I'm curious to know if anyone asked her about it .
.... i see now your minds are made up and set a pipe stop the presses omg a pipe i give up
I find it very interesting that she was screaming and crying when her mother called 911. she was putting on a big act and it raises a lot of questions about her motivation and being manipulative.
this is a very sad story.
Julie,
I wondered that too, why didn't any of her friends or family notice that the baby was missing? She didn't have ANY visitors for two weeks? Seems odd.
There are a few details in this article that I have yet to read elsewhere:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....on/
5232641.html
"Oct. 21, 2007, 2:46PM
Mother charged in baby's death
By MANDY LOCKE AND SAMIHA KHANNA
McClatchy-Tribune
RALEIGH, N.C. — Authorities on Saturday found the body of a missing 11-month-old girl hidden in the attic of her Spring Lake home and later charged the child's mother in connection with the death.
The Harnett County Sheriff's Office charged Johni Michelle Heuser, 25, with first-degree murder. She was being held without bail.
Harmony Creech had been dead for three or four weeks, Harnett County Sheriff Larry Rollins announced late Saturday night.
Rollins said Heuser's three other children were placed in foster care.
Police had issued a statewide Amber Alert on Friday after Harmony's family reported her missing. The FBI helped the Harnett County Sheriff's Department, although authorities never labeled the case an abduction.
On Saturday, the mother told investigators she had found the baby dead in its crib and concealed the body in the attic of her home.
"Her reasoning for such was that she was fearful," Rollins said of the 25-year-old mother of four.
Though the girl's body was found around lunchtime Saturday, authorities made the announcement at 9 p.m. local time because they didn't want news of the recovery to interfere with interviews with key people, specifically Heuser, Rollins said.
"She has been telling us a lot of lies for a long time. It finally, through some good interview techniques, brought the truth out," the sheriff said.
Harmony's reported disappearance shook the rural southeastern pocket of Harnett County outside Spring Lake, near Fort Bragg in Cumberland County. The girl's father, Robert Earl Creech II, had returned from a 15-month tour of Iraq on Friday to see his infant girl, whom he met only once while on leave in January.
But Harmony was reported to have vanished during the night, sometime after her mother put her down to sleep and before late Friday morning. Also reported missing were a pink sheet, a handful of bibs and nearly all of Harmony's clothes.
Rollins said investigators were suspicious about the circumstances of the missing baby, but kept open minds and kept seeking facts in hope the child would be discovered alive.
"In missing-person cases, you're looking at the clock," he said.
In her statement, Heuser didn't mention any medical problems or other signs of trouble leading up to the discovery of her dead child, Rollins said. He also mentioned that social workers were called to the house in August to check on a complaint, but no action was taken after an inspection of the home.
Rollins wouldn't specify the reason for the complaint. He said the social worker's report gave detailed information about Heuser's 3-year-old twin boys and a 5-year-old girl, who have a different father than Harmony. There was no mention
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com...ory/
225705.html
-SNIP-
"Irizarry helped her daughter care for her four children, and investigators are trying to figure out when Irizarry last saw the baby. The time line was still fuzzy as of Sunday afternoon, McNeill said.
Neighbor Bonnie West said Heuser had made excuses in recent weeks when Harmony's grandparents wanted to see her, saying she was asleep. And, she said, Heuser had been more reclusive in recent weeks. Previously, neighbors had complained of the noise from late-night music and parties.
"All of a sudden you couldn't get [Heuser] to open the door," West said. "You could knock and knock and beat and beat."
When she finally did come to the door, West said she would hurry up and close it behind the visitor.
Even last week when a water line broke, she was reluctant to let someone in the house to help her fix it, West said."
Im not sure I can see exactly what the motive here is. Is it possible that this baby died of SIDS and she just lost her mind?
I'm not saying that an 11 month old cannot die from SIDS but I cannot remember any babies that old, who were healthy previously, having died of SIDS. And I have medical ties and even researched this just to be sure that I wouldn't be talking out of turn.
Hopefully Johnie will just come clean, say what happened, for real, though I am betting that based on her comments during interrogation, she has already said some things that led law enforcement to charge her with 1st degree murder.
Young mom, 4 kids, one of whom is a baby, with neighbors complaining of "noise and loud partying" might just have snapped one night and there you go. Otherwise, again, like many have said previously, there would have been no reason to be fearful and not going the route of getting some help.
To hide the baby speaks volumes. I also believe, based on the directions to the garbage dump, that she planned on throwing her away and was scared to based on the procedures at the dump.
11 months old is not too old for SIDS, and if she was a partier then more than likely the baby has been exposed to smoke. Also, she was obviously a teen mom, and subsequent children of teen mothers are more at risk for SIDS than those of babies born of older women, even women in their 40ies.
She was 19-20 when her first child was born. The other two (living) are twins. I believe they are 3 years old. She married in 2000.
BTW, her ex-husband (or husband)is no upstanding citizen. He's served time in NC DOC and multiple arrest records. Latest arrest this year.
Hannah's father on the other hand, appears to be the exact opposite. A soldier and for sometime, like since HS is my reading of him. How she hooked up with him? Location, location, location?
Although my experience working in criminal law is minimal, I have never heard of a parent being charged with MURDER when a child has died because of an illness, SIDS, unforseen accident, etc.
Not only did she take the actions she did with baby Harmony's body, she then constructed some evil story to mislead all others. So reminiscent of Susan Smith, and what she drug her husband and family through. DISGUSTING, and it does not get much worse in my opinion!!!
From Abrams on MSNBC.
Hannah's remains were skeletal. They knew Johni was with holding the truth from the beginning.
Darby, that is a true about dump procedures. I lived in a rural area for a short time and when I hauled the garbage to the drop off, there was always an attendant on duty.
He/She would direct me to the appropriate area (metal, glass, garbage etc) and watched while I got rid of my garbage.
well only god can pass blame
Jason, so can the State of NC, if a jury finds someone guilty.
I feel for you, like the other 100s of other friends or family of an accused murderer or rapist I've seen post on the Internet.
Sadly, the person that makes the decision to take another's life or rape another, doesn't care or think about the impact it will have on others.
Their family and friends are left in the dark and bewildered. Usually the perp is a liar and allies believe the tale even when confronted with hard facts. I don't think a video tape of the crime would make a difference to some people.
They need to believe in their loved one's innocence.
Diane,
Her name is Harmony, NOT Hannah I just fel the need to point that out, since you keep refering to her as Hannah.
Figuring out if that Chellbell at the auction house really *was* her does matter jason. This is why. When I lost my mother suddenly in March, I wasn't able to play my game of choice (Guild Wars). I wasn't able to participate in the guild site, nor even contemplate going to the marketplace to bid on or sell items. I *still* haven't really gotten back in game, and it has been months. The fact that she was able to do so, in my mind says she wasn't as saddened/depressed/overwhelmed/confused by grief as she wants us to believe. And I didn't "drag" his name into it in the way you are saying. People are not stupid. They know he is just some guy she hung out with in game. He's got nothing to do with Harmony's death, and we know that. But, the images and the like prove that it is her. That proof further goes to contradict her supposed state of mind. That's the how and why of it. Think about it. If your child or family member died suddenly, would you want to go to the AuctionHouse? I'll grant some might hang out in game to chat with friends, I have seen that. But to actually play?
And adding, before others try to throw it in my face. Yes, I have blogged. Yes, I have played *flashgames* they do not take nearly the focus of playing a Guild Wars Monk. (Healer.) I played to try to pull out of the sadness a little. And you will notice a *BIG* gap in my entries, nothing from April 11th (When I thawed out from the shock and absorped the fact that my mother wasn't just in the hospital)to September 2nd. I was somewhat numb when I made the posts after March 7th, sort of waiting for the other shoe to fall. About the time of Easter and Spring really coming is when it hit me. Mom loved Easter.
No offense Kat, but how you mourn has nothing to do with how another does.
It certainly looks like something happened here. But I am waiting for the evidence in this case.
Jason:
As I stated previously, I feel a tremendous amount of sorrow for anyone close to this horrific tragedy. However, I wonder if you are a parent, or a father of a child? I would find it extremely difficult to imagine that you would feel supportive of a mother that simply discarded your child (not including what transpired before the baby's death). This evil woman put her baby's body in a diaper box, and left her in the attic to rot? Then only to find yourself in a circus of police/FBI/reporters/volunteers frantically trying to find an "abducted" baby.
Heinous is an understatement, and as I also stated previously, I honestly do not believe much is worse than what she has done, and with my limited knowledge of all of the facts.
Please do try and understand why people are outraged. She is completely responsible for her actions, and further showed no respect, compassion, or loyalty to her baby, her baby's father/family, other children, etc. This is not acceptable under any circumstances, and no allowances should be given.
TY, Heather. I have no idea why I screwed up her name, especially since I realized her middle name was Jade early on from news accounts.
Melissa, of course we all mourn differently. But, she's trying to say she's not in her right mind. Well, I certainly wasn't myself from the time my Mother died till about September, and I still am not quite myself. I wasn't able to focus at will on a game like Guild Wars, to plan and bargain search for supplies to advance my character. A common characteristic to mourning is the person doesn't want/isn't able to do the things they had previously done for fun. The "fun" has gone out of it, you are tired, confused, and just not able/wanting to focus on it. I did play more mindless games on the computer, because there is nothing else to do in this podunk town, it's a small Kansas town, and I don't drink, don't have a lot of money. Anything I'd do to try to distract myself had to be on the net, just nothing very complex. Liken it to playing Solataire to keep from going round and round in your head with sad thoughts.
I am not certain as to Postpartum Depression, and if that would change things as far as being able to play an online game while the body of your child festers and stinks above you. Somehow though, I'd say not.
Also Melissa, please call me KatK, since there is also a Kat here. *wink* S'no biggie 'cept I want to keep things clear of confusion.
jason - I do know Michelle and Ron both personally, just so you know. I would get into specifics but I would rather people NOT know who I am because I don't want to be hassled by the media and random people seeking gossip like some of my friends are experiencing. Investigators have already spoken to me ... in fact, thats how I found out about the entire incident. I have kept my posts purposely vague for this reason. I remember michelle talking about you and I don't know if she ever mentioned me to you or not but if you want/need someone to talk to, leave some contact information somehow and I will be there for you. I don't know any other way to get in contact, as I was not friends with most of michelle's other friends.
Okay,... it took me an hour to read all of the comments that came in after my last comment.
Katk,... you really made one of the best points about playing the online games. Whether or not you get into games, and what you do with them, and how deep you get into them, all depends on where you are, who you are, and what you do for your daily occupation. There's nothing wrong with playing games, as long as your other obligations are met. I like watching football, baseball, auto racing, and basketball, but I make sure my work is done first before I watch sports.
Maybe if you are in the middle of Bum*uck Kansas with nothing to do all day, you have time to get into some video or computer games.
I'm just throwing in my two cents here,... after taxes,... but I remember when they first invented DSL, and I remember what they said the purpose of DSL was.
And I remember going over to my friend's house from 1991 to 2003 and watching him and all of his kids (20 something adults), while all they did was sit in front of their computers all day playing some stupid game with people around the world, where you dress up your character with the points you gained from the Carpal Tunnel Syndrome you get from spinning that stupid mouse ball around with your thumb while you throw witty chat-speak blurbs at other users while you shoot your imaginary weapons at them with the high dollar joy stick you just bought and you know that no0b0dy else in teh neighborhood has one because it costs so much.
in the qwest to kill electrons u evntly rlize thta splling, grmmrr, n punctacean dn't matter eny moor if u ken stll get ur point>>>> acroos/
Keep talking jason and not important. We're listening.
Do you think your good friend's lifestyle hasn't been around for like, ... forever? We are just people commenting on the various crimes reported in the news each day. Your friend placed the corpse of her dead child in the attic to rot while doing things that nobody can really understand because the child wasn't missed until the father, just home from the war was walking into the bedroom to meet his daughter.
Yes, I'm a total stranger judging the person reported by the main stream media to be the perpetrater of a crime involving the decomposing corpse of an 11 month old child.
Neighbors are standing next to their fences talking to each other. Now, in the 21st Century, thanks to the World Wide Web, people all over the world are talking about this criminal event.
I'm sorry about your luck, jason and not important. It's not as bad as you think. Only one person is getting locked up, and nobody else is likely to die.
diane
or family of an accused murderer or rapist
was there a need to say rapist???
add more gas to a fire will you!
win info comes out of what lead to the babys death they feel free to say what you will
many good ppl have made real bad calls shes not the 1st what she did is a very very bad crime and yes she will pay for it for the rest of her days so will the outher 3 kids and Ron as well as we that know people in this sad sad story
Yes, there is a need to tell it like it is. It is called speaking the truth plainly. This is a good thing. When we as a society mamby pamby around and use softer words for such horrendous things, they lose some of their impact, and the meaning blurs. That is a bad thing. Murder is murder, and ghoulish behavior should be given its full weight, whether it is rape, murder, or callous disregard for other people's feelings. We shouldn't soften the way we describe such things. They should be verbal hammers to our consciences, for good reason. So we don't lose sensitivity as a society, and forget why such things are not good.
jason ~ "was there a need to say rapist???
add more gas to a fire will you!"
jason does have a point here. Diane kind of used the term "rapist" loosely. Putting a dead child in the attic to rot doesn't rise to the level of rape.
Don't be offended jason. The crimes discussed here usually involve murder, rape, and vulnerable or child victims. She's not all the way up to rape, but she's up there with a child corpse and a 1st degree murder charge.
Nobody disagrees with you jason. It is a sad, sad, very sad story.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/s...l/story/
1954649
"Posted: Oct. 22 9:36 a.m.
Updated: Today at 1:08 a.m.
Heuser, 25, showed no emotion, however, during a brief court hearing Monday when she faced a first-degree murder charge in the death of Harmony Jade Creech.
She responded "Yes, sir" when a judge asked if she understood the charge against her, and she asked the court to appoint a defense attorney for her.
"I haven't seen a lot of (remorse)," Harnett County Sheriff Larry Rollins said during a news conference about the investigation late Monday afternoon. "(She has been) a liar – deceptive right up to the point of just being back to the corner and can't go anywhere else. … I don't know that she's told the truth now."
Investigators found the child's body early Saturday afternoon wrapped in a plastic bag inside a diaper box in the attic of the Spring Lake home Heuser was renting.
"There were a number of other boxes and clothing and items that were in there," Rollins said. "And the box that her remains were in was very concealed and was even difficult for investigators to locate."
In addition to the diaper box, investigators seized trash bags filled with baby clothes and shoes, written directions to a nearby trash dump, a cell phone, a pipe, financial records and an X-Box video-gaming system, according to search warrants released Monday.
The gaming system can operate like a computer chat room. While not confirming the gaming link, FBI Supervisory Agent Greg Baker said agents are interviewing as many as five people along the East Coast about the case.
"They're looking at imaging hard drives, and we're looking to see if there's any individual in contact with the principal targets of the investigation," Baker said.
Heuser's mother called 911 Friday morning to report the baby missing, prompting authorities to issue a statewide Amber Alert and the FBI to dispatch a 32-member evidence response team from across the United States to Spring Lake to comb the house for evidence.
It was a meticulous search that led investigators to Harmony's body. They said they chose not to cancel the Amber Alert for several hours, however, so they did not compromise the interview with Hueser.
"At that point in our investigation, and in the interviews that were being conducted with Michelle, it would have been a great hindrance to have done so at that time," Rollins said.
Investigators were then able to get a statement from Hueser that the child had died some time ago and that she had concealed the death out of fear.
The FBI said she consented to a polygraph, which Rollins said "confirmed that we knew she was a habitual liar."
"She lied to us and everyone else from the start right up until the time she had to explain that child's remains in that attic," he said. "She got to the point where she couldn't get around not answering the question."
Warrants indicated that investigartors thought the child m
PRIOR POST WAS NOT COMPLETE (may have extended the word criteria, but who knows ~ I am pasting an article here, and just want to make sure it it complete):
". . . Warrants indicated that investigartors thought the child might have died sometime in September. They sent the baby's remains to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in Chapel Hill to determine a cause and time of death.
Meanwhile, Hueser's three other children – twin boys and a girl – are in foster care.
The bay's father, Ronald Creech II, who is in the 82nd Airborne Division, has asked for privacy for him and his family as they cope with their loss. He released a statement Monday afternoon, however.
"Harmony's mother was good at deceiving everyone who would ask about Harmony and where she was," 82nd Airborne spokesman Maj. Tom Earnhardt read on behalf of Creech. "The stories were credible and everyone believed her. My goal for the last year was to complete my mission and return home to my children. I have returned home to a tragedy I would not wish upon any parent of any child."
"I think my heart goes out to him the most," Rollins said. "It's been very traumatic for him, being deployed for 15 months, returning thinking he's coming back to a family unit that he's going to enjoy and then have to be faced with this."
"You can imagine the emotional state he was in and still is," the sheriff added."
* * * * * * * * * *
Good person (she may have been, but decided at some point she was more important than her children, or anyone else for that matter)? Good mommy (good mommy's do not put themselves in 1st place, nor are charged with murdering one of their children)? I beg to differ with any supporter here, and any further introductions of excuses such as state of mind, out of her mind, consumed by gaming, or suffering from PPD, etc., makes me sick = EXCUSES!!!
Of course, other than "family", and I again want to express how sorry I feel for you all should anyone read this! The support system here, in my opinion, should be in trying to figure out how to keep her other children together, and getting them through this horrific ordeal! So sad, and I hope the children will not remain in foster care amongst strangers for long ~ they are in great need of family love and support!!!
Mike - "It's not as bad as you think"
a good friend of mine is sitting in a jail cell tonight while family and friends are harrassed by the media and everyone is asking why didn't someone notice. Michelle apparently was a very good liar because all of her stories sounded typical and credible. We had no reason to doubt her or check up on the stories she told. Hindsight is 20/20 but I'm tired of people judging me (not really here but in general). Just because I was friends doesn't mean I knew every detail of her life or saw her constantly but it seems like people expect me to have answers for her actions when I'm just as confused or perhaps moreso than those who don't know her.
What happened here is not the michelle I know. Something horrible happened and she freaked. She lost it.
what more can I say.
not important
have we spoke on the phone
not important
go to my homepage you can send me a message there away from prying eyes
I started to comment again last night and left the site to take care of my kids. This morning there sure is a lot more to read.
No matter what the reasoning, rational, insanity - whatever was going on with Michelle - so many lives are changed forever and she shows little to no remorse. Her baby is dead, her surviving three are in foster care and an extended family of relatives, friends and strangers are deeply saddened by the whole event.
My heart goes out to the three kids -I hope that they are together and with people who can love them and make them feel safe!
It also troubles me that a social worker was there in August. There had to be a reason that the system was brought into the home despite nothing being discovered at the time. How sad that tragedy was still the end result!
when i heard there was an amber alert i felt instant sorrow for the mother and family members ,when i found out the truth i was very angry , she manipulated and lied to the world , and i dont feel sorry for her,,,sorry that is just how it is ,,,,on the other hand i think she is ver sick in the head and needs help
Ron's stepmother has been posting here under the name alagirl1961:
http://tinyurl.com/2tobgv
i dont know what to make of her ,,(stepmother) who cares about her wedding ring showing on the news,,,my question is for the three babys now in states custody,,,,poor babies ,,why doesnt ron fight for them ,,,or were he and she not even in a relationship????
Chells a good friend of mine too Not Important. And I agree, something else must have happened here. Shes a very good person at heart. No matter what, I'll always support her. Shes my Bffl.
Velouria,
I found the link very insightful. Thanks for the link.
I feel that families and friends tend to seek the internet during times like these for the same reason that people with no connection to the crime do - to seek out more information that will possibly give answers/reasons for their loved one's actions. My first response to step-mom's words was negative, but I now feel that her attitude is more of a coping mechanism. A "wait and see" response allows a person to deflect the possibility of a more sinister explanation for the death. Same reasoning applies to speculation regarding SIDS, etc. - people do not want to believe that murder can be committed without provocation, but sometimes these types of things defy reason.
That said, I never endorse opinions that rush to judgement without knowledge of the basic details, although I don't feel it has been done in this situation. Steve keeps a good handle on this type of activity, but supporters of Michelle should keep in mind that other internet forums may not practice the same philosophy.
These clueless young people, born and raised as passive receptacles to media, need to get their vacuous heads out of fantasy play and into the real world. I have never met a person obsessed with video games or online games that was in any way normal. Looking into an e-box day and night to get your kicks is sick; if that is all they want to do, send them to prison where they can stare blankly into a box of clickering images forevermore..
does anyone know if they were married or not ,,,according to her myspace she is single,,,i find that to be very strange,,,even if they are not married ,,,and just in a relationship,,,,youd think she would acknowledge it ,just wondering if i was the only person curious about that.(could be she felt the need to get rid of all ties to the father includeing poor little harmony)
Jason - I don't know your homepage. I'm not even sure how you know michelle. I just remember her mentioning your name and I remember your gamer tag from when she played online. She told me how she knew you, but honestly I forgot. I don't have the best memory and I have trouble remembering people I haven't met in person. I would post my e-mail here, but right now no one outside of family knows who I am.
Not Important:
Jason had posted his homepage in earlier posts. I believe it is:
http://www.myspace.com/revrazzz
Not trying to interfere, do not want to be involved, but wanted to help.
Not up there with rape ! Are you serious ? It's a million times worse than rape !!
Not sure if i posted before, but if the baby died of natural causes or lets say SIDS and the mother discovered the baby, wouldn't her reaction be "I have to get an abulance hear right away!" ???? why would she get "scared"? I don't want to hear people say, "She didn't know what to do, she was so afraid".
I know that a mother would not take her beautiful baby and put her in a plastic bag and stuff her in the attic.
Now if somehow she felt responsible for her death, like maybe she left the baby hungry and crying while she play her video games and then discovered her dead, that would be a reason to be SCARED.
She felt guilty and wanted to hide the baby, what was her plan for the future? To pretend her daughter was kidnapped and live with this lie forever? That is really disgusting.
wow I can't spell. oops sorry guys.
Heuser as a woman who showed little remorse throughout the interview process.
A polygraph test "confirmed that she was a habitual liar," he said.
(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21440893/)
this is what i found new at this web source ,,first i have heard of the poligraph,,,could be the reason for the murder charge,,,,
Reality: There has already been mention of the polygraph in the comments above.
RockyMtnMom - you've not interfering, giving me the website was very helpful, as I did not recall seeing it earlier. Thank you for the assistance.
Jason - e-mail was sent through a friend's myspace account, as I have yet to join the 21st century with an account of my own. My e-mail address is included in the message.
everyone else - Thank you for taking a (mostly) objective look at things. I've been reading other comments on various sites and this is the only one I've posted on for that reason. If you knew me, that statement would even more meaningful as I typically keep to myself and don't talk to those I don't know who are completely outside of said event. Take that as a gratuitous and genuine compliment.
Thanks
sorry i missed that RockyMtnMom ,,,wonder when they will get the autopsy report,,,,it really would mae me feel better to know that at the least, her involvment was accidental if she had somethin to do with it
not important
i got your e-mail will reply asap
Memorial Fun Established
http://www.wral.com/news/news_br.../story/1961360/
Cut from article --
Fort Bragg — A memorial fund has been established to help defray costs associated with funeral arrangements for Harmony Creech, whose body was discovered after she had been reported missing last week.
Contributions can be made to the "Harmony Jade Creech Memorial Fund," c/o First Citizens Bank, P.O. Box 70030, Fort Bragg, N.C. 28307-0030.
Contributions are also being accepted at any First Citizens Bank branch office. Checks should be made payable to the "Harmony Jade Creech Memorial Fund."
Correction: Memorial **FUND**
thats what I get for not proofreading
thxs so much for posting that not important
I can only speak for myself in re: to why I feel Ms. Heuser did something purposefully to harm Jade and that is based upon the charges. M1 charges would not be applied to an accident and subsequent cover-up. Had they charged her with M2 or Manslaughter I would be more apt to give the benefit of the doubt towards an accident. The only other wiggle room would be if the "felony muder rule" applied. Meaning that the death may have been accidental, but it occurred during the commission of another felony,(ie: kidnapping, rape, burglary, ect.), hence the M1 charges. I can't see any other felony happening in the home while Ms. Heuser was alone with the children that resulted in Jade's death, though I won't be closed minded to the possibility.
I think this case is a lot more straight foward than anyone would like to believe. That being, this mother purposefully and willfully killed her baby daughter. Throughout the years of studying crime I have become very accustomed to family and friends defending the defendants. It's a natural response in most cases. This one is no different. Making the choice to believe the charges over the friend or family member can sometimes be enough to question humanity, or more personally, question one's own judgement of people. That can be a scarey thought to consider that if charges in certain cases are true, you must never have known that person at all. You only knew the person they wanted you to see.
Regardless of how Jade died, her mother's subsequent disposal of the tiny body, (in a plastic bag, stuffed in a diaper box, hidden in the attic, along with her clothes, bedsheet, ect., as if she never existed), plus her calculating story that she knew would tear Ron apart, compulsive lying to cops, and demeanor in court, tell me all I want or need to know about the true character of this person.
OK, I have read all of this and have felt horrible for everything that has happened. I hope that "mom" gets what she deserves. I do have something to say about the Step-Mom's comments on the website posted earlier.
Here is one of her posts:
"Thank you for your loving concern for our family, and for morally supporting them while there. It is only with horrific grief that my husband said what he did, but I have to agree with him and with maddygreen. I know that our servicemen are employed to go wherever they are sent and during times of war, it is difficult on everyone, even those who don't even have family over there! Ron said what he did because like so many of us, he is tired of this senseless war that we are in now. WRAL actually edited out much bolder statements that he made, thank God! lol
But please, Fuquay, just try to understand my husband's state of mind right now. Actually, I'd say he and his son are both holding together pretty well.... better really than to be expected. Btw, I enjoyed seeing his wedding band up so close on the video... hehe, we have only been married since August of this year! And his love for children is born witness to his tears, and the fact that he loves his job as a teacher and coach. In your first blog, you berated what he said, THEN next stated that you'd take care of them. Just take good care of them, please....he is a fine Christian man who is hurting beyond belief. Feed them? Gather a "love offering"? It's bad enough the grief that losing our baby girl has caused, but the financial burden is heavy, too....no expectations here, but actions do speak louder than words.
Blessings to all of you. G. Creech"
Ok, I understand that there is a financal for funeral costs and all but the fact that this woman posted something like this just 2-3 days into the situation is just SICK to me. I can not believe that she is on a news website or any website for that matter as they are grieving, how does she find that kind of time...further more to make comments as the last one and the financial burden....
Then there is this post she made later:
"Thank you SO much for your kind post and even more so, for your prayers. I have mentioned the Red Cross thing to Ron, but he is unfortunately one of those men whose pride forces him to avoid "making the phone call". He and his nephew (someone mentioned "brother", but it is actually Ron II's cousin who came with my husband), are at this time apparently staying in a local motel, and you are right, being hounded by the media!!!
Perhaps someone, a local, could step out and make a call to the Red Cross? That would be awesome and so much appreciated! As to their staying on base, I'm surprised the commander, or whatever Army official is in charge, has not perhaps offered this? Ron hasn't mentioned it. But also, maybe the motel is closer to where Ron II is? I don't know these things.... as I only talk to Ron II two or three times a day. Again, how
Continued from earlier post:
Again, how can this woman do this? If she has time to post on the website, why doesn't she call the Red Cross herself? I just get sick thinking about what she posted because to me it seems as if she is trying to "cash in" on a horrible situation!
CN- i felt like i was the only one with these feelings i have to agree with you but i think the one thing that sticks out the most that kinda pisses me of was this statement she made..."Btw, I enjoyed seeing his wedding band up so close on the video... hehe, we have only been married since August of this year!" what the hell who cares!!!!! i mean damn this poor child and your heheheheh my wedding rings....all the family so far has chosen the stay out of the spot light why does she continue to talk and talk about things beside the situation at hand she has talked about a couple diffrent family issues that have no connection to the murder of this little baby
cn - I mentioned the above to Ron's family and it is being dealt with accordingly. That was ron's stepmom and she really is a clueless person as far as I can tell.
A lot of support has been offered from both the community and the army and it is being graciously accepted
um... why is the link to my homepage going to someone i dont know is there a hacker here.... if so not cool
Emerson:
I see this exactly as you do, and have from the very beginning. They easily could not have charged her straight away, or charged her with a lesser crime, and later amended it if warranted.
I have to wonder what people are thinking when they believe there is a need to wait for autopsy results in order to charge someone . . . that is either plain naive or stupid (not trying to be offensive to anyone here). The authorities obviously have enough evidence to have charged her either through her confession, after the baby was recovered wherein there was clear and convincing evidence it was no accident, etc.
The most outrageous to me is her lies, aside her actions, of course!
* * * * * * * * * *
CN:
I also felt it alarming that a family member, muchless immediate, would have been making such open, and at times outrageous, comments in a forum such as that and at a time such as this! Actually, I even wondered if this was a sicko impersonating a family member. Just a "tad bit" aloof about the entire situation, and it does lead one to wonder if she has/had ulterior motives, i.e., financial, etc. Her candor made me ill!
Jason:
I am not sure what you are up to, but I am calling skunk! You received "Not Important's" message, however, this MySpace homepage is not your's? I do believe Mr. Huff, the owner of this site, has or will check into this! I am not finding your story credible at all, in view of the following:
"not important
i got your e-mail will reply asap
jason | Homepage | 10.23.07 - 8:28 pm"
Not sure how "not important's" message could possibly have been received if this is not your site, and I am now left questioning who exactly you are. Believe me, Mr. Huff will know the how, when, where, time, etc. (I believe that is, as he has shown great knowledge in such matters before, when necessary).
If this is a mistake on my part, please do not take this personally Jason. To assume someone has hacked is serious, and you should not use that term lightly.
* * * * * * * * * *
Not Important:
My apologies if I pasted and posted contact info for someone that I now think is questionable, in my opinion. Yes, I did go to his "homepage", and if you are a single guy, I guess the content of his page is what it is. I did not see any "friends" or "comments" posted by any of the parties involved here. However, according to Jason's comments they sound like such good/close friends, they both have MySpace accounts, and yet she is not listed anywhere as either a friend or a poster (that I saw anyway . . . an alias?).
* * * * * * * * * *
The above is not important to me in the least (felt I needed to comment as I posted the link for "Not Important", "Jason" is denying it is his homepage, but I cut and pasted it from this site for "Not Important" with good intentions).
This is about poor dear Harmony, and what her mother has allegedly done. Again, my prayers to all family, Harmony's brothers/sister, and family!
I kissed/hugged my babies over and over today, as usual, and still just cannot shake the thought of a dead baby being in the home . . . with (or even without) other children . . . gawd, what in the hell is happing in our society??? This has got to stop! NO MORE SLACK ~ you commit a crime against a child (ANY CRIME), you will be put away FOREVER!!! Oh yeah, and in general population, as life in prison gives you the protection your child deserved, or any child you committed a crime against!!! Life without parole, and let the other's in there take care of it.
I do not condone violence, but you commit a crime against a child, you should live the rest of our days in PURE and UNPROTECTED hell)!!! Every child violated at the hands of such criminals live the rest of their lives dealing with what has happened to them, if they survive in the first instance!
MOTHERS, if you are feeling sick, mean, irritated, cannot cope, need a break, etc. . . . SEEK HELP! DO NOT HARM, BEAT, ABUSE, STARVE, AND/OR KILL YOUR CHILD!!! There is help available, and THERE IS NO EXCUSE . . . NOT ONE!!!
If she did cause Harmon
To CN and Emerson,,,
Dito to what the both of you said about the stepmother,,,my first instinct after i read those paticular things about the wedding ring and the money ,,,was anger,,,if it is her, i feel she is tryin to gain money and attention,,,Cn those were my thoughts exactly,,,who gives a damn about her stupid wedding ring,,,(come on ) there has to be some damn good evidence that is not being released for them to already announce she is being (CHARGED)with murder,,,,instead of the usual under suspician of murder,,,in all the years ive watched ,,,i have never heard reports on the news that way,,,unless they had proof and were sure,,,maybe i am wrong,,i am just sayin i have never personally seen that before,,,
Jason,,,,nothin personal ,,,but how is it you say there is a hacker just because someone has gone to your link,,,,its right there under your name,,,i have gone to everyones link here ,,,sorry, i thought thats why they were posted ,,,now mine is not because i dont want people knowing who i am ,,,im just here as a curious ,and careing person , and i like to keep up with the latest,,,,maybe you should in the future not post your home page if you dont want people to go to your site,,,,and in reference to your site,,,if this is you ,,, maybe you should contact authorities of what one of your freinds commented on your page,,,,,i would if it were me ,,,(if this friend is tellin the truth ) no disrespect to you ,,,but i thought it was why folks posted there home page.
look now i dont know how my homepage info got messed up but it did my homepage is
www.myspace.com/revrazzz
i emailed Not Important over this matter and he/she being a real friend of hers asked me to send him info wich only a real friend would know and i did and then some i will not stand there and let you call me out over a bad link.
ive know her for over 7 years her sons love me sadly i never got to see the baby and i will live with that the rest of my life. i have a few pics of her and her kids in my home at times sometimes i even get mail here in her name being she used to live here a few years ago not with me but she live at the same addy.
Jason, our homepages show up with our comments! Chill! See mine? I put the link there, anyone can see it and click it, didn't you know that?! Well, now you do. That is how the person posted your homepage so not important could contact you.
Adding, sometimes you have to put the link in with each post, sometimes you don't.
reality:
i did not say hacker cuz people are going to my page but on a few of my post the info got changed and that was not my page
KatK:
i understand that very well
all my saing is read up at all my post on a few the homepage is not mine and i dont know why trust me im as chill as i can be still comeing to grips with what she did. as for her not being on my friends list on myspace there is a reason for that and i and her both understand why .
as for ppl saying i dont know what im talking about/ trying to do here by makeing post at least Ron knows im real and my story is real as well as long as i know the truth i stand by my word
You don't have a homepage link on a few of your posts, is that what you mean? Try reading around this site a bit more Jason. I think you'll find even people whose words you currently hate have a somewhat similar mindset to you. For example, do a search for Tori and Dean on this site, or click the link to A Voice for Tori and Dean.
We have seen babies hurt, and killed so many times. There comes a point when you see that a parent is arrested for the death of a child, and you cannot find a single reason to excuse them. That is where "we" are coming from. We've gone past the point of seeing such things as even remotely "it isn't their fault". There are rare, rare cases where I can see "it isn't their fault", but it takes a good deal of evidence and convincing to make the idea unshakeable. I don't see the evidence here, and I don't really see it coming in the future either. I think she's like Trenton Duckett's mother, a psycopath who is very good at conning people into seeing what she wants them to see. That kind of psychopath is dangerous and should not be out in society. (Some psychopaths don't murder, they "just" manipulate others, cheat when they can get away with it, and steal. They are sometimes seen in the guise of corporate bullies.)
Jason, I just scrolled up and looked at your posts. Mouseover shows that each post where you put in your homepage goes to your MySpace page. The others just don't have any homepage link in them at all. The # sign isn't the homepage. Don't you feel silly, at your age to be yelling about "haxxors" when it is your mistakes, and not hacking?
http://snipurl.com/1sn4o This link is the results of a Google search that has the blog entries about Tori Vienneau and Dean Springstube. Here is a link to the website set up to help find Justice. http://avoicefortorianddean.org/...rg/
toridean.htm
Bleh, the google search doesn't like Snip URL I guess. In any case, on the links section of the site you will find links to Steve's blog entries about the murders.
I am so glad that other people have seen what I saw in the posts from Ron's step-mother. This woman must not have a clue. She sounds very immature. My husband and I went to bed last night still shaking our heads and wondering how someone could type what she did when the heart of the matter is this poor child that had a horrible thing happen to her and the father that has to deal with this tragedy right after returning from fighting for our country.
Not Important, thank you for mentioning it to the family. I just think that it is horrible for this woman to be looking to "cash in" on such a terrible situation. Maybe that is not how she meant it but when I read things like this, it makes me not want to contribute to the memorial fund.
My thoughts and prayers are with Baby Jade, her daddy and the children that this so called "mom" also had. Its sad they are in a foster home, where is their dad? Where is the rest of the family, grandparents of these poor children? Right now they need them, not a foster home. I hope, for the children's sake that some of the family members step up and help these children and give them the love and support they need.
Sorry for the rambling but I have a 9 month old at home and can not understand how anyone could just discard a child such as this woman has....and the fact that she lived in that house.....how could anyone do that? Can you imagine what these poor children must have gone through wondering where their baby sister is?
Reading these crime blog sites, you realize there are some horrible people out there and at the point you think you have heard the worst, someone more sick comes along!
I also wanted to add, I do pray for Ron, Harmony's siblings, and all the rest of the people who loved Harmony. This has to be a nightmare for Ron and the rest of Harmony's family, and a confusing mess for those who thought Johni was a friend.
You're very welcome for the link, bvikk. Those of you who checked the posts from Ron's stepmom might've also noticed this thread under the title, "Cheater"
http://tinyurl.com/39cmrx
The OP claims their friend was dating Michelle while Ron was in Iraq. Before her friends rush in, I'm not vouching for the veracity of said comments. However, it might shed some light on why she could've been reluctant to come forward with the truth. Who knows? There could have been someone else there when Baby Harmony died.
I think Jason was referring to this post of his:
thxs so much for posting that not important
jason | Homepage | 10.23.07 - 11:05 pm | #
If you click that particular "Homepage" link you go to someone else's Myspace (revrazz) and it is probably because Jason failed to enter the final z when he entered his own Myspace page (revrazzz) when posting that message. No great conspiracy.
Ah, I see now. It was still a very simple error made by Jason, not hackers. S'ok, I can be silly like that myself at times Jason.
sorry this all has jest got me so worked up
im sorry i must of missed a z my bad
It's cool jason. You've got a lot of stuff to work out in your own mind. I bet you're a bit muddled right now.
There are so many comments in here that I agree with 100% - my guess is most of those are written by parents. But I also want to point out that this section is called "COMMENTS" and often individuals comment with speculation, emotion, beliefs and not facts. Comments can be great and brainstorming can often be very enlightening. Also remember that often folks like to jump on the "band wagon" of media attention. A guy that you meet in passing is now and the news and instantly you refer to him as your best friend. THE ABOVE COMMENT IS NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS JASON AND NOT IMPORTANT. It is just human nature and common.
I find it completely disturbing that the stepmother is “cashing in on this” – whether it is misperception or actual. And it bothers me that Jason is so concerned with how this blog is affecting him. Get over it. You choose to post here. You don’t like the comments – quit reading them. You believe in your friend 100%? Start your own “Free Chelly” website. I have been told that I am an unbelievably loyal friend and I respect that her friends are behind her. That shows a lot for your character and I truly mean it as a complement. But as others have pointed out - this is Mr. Huff’s site. Steve is very professional and open to lots but his policy about comments is also clear and posted http://www.stevenhuff.net/comment-policy. He owns this site and he makes the rules. This is a crime blog site and regardless of who, what and why, a crime was committed – an unreported dead child was placed in an attic for weeks. That is an undisputed fact.
Personally I love this site. I often smile when I read comments from frequent visitors, already knowing who most likely wrote them based upon past commenting. There are many who I agree with so much that I would guess we could be friends if we lived in the same area. That’s a really cool thing about this site.
Anyway I have ranted long enough – I am good at that My point is this is a crime blog site and the focus should be on the baby, her siblings and family, and the hope that truth will be discovered and justice will be served. And to all those who share my opinions about these crimes especially involving kids – thank you. I pray that one day we won’t wake up to news like this or to the one I heard at 6 am this morning while getting my son ready for school “Police say there's a suspicious vehicle following children on their way to school trying to lure children into his car.” Thank God my husband and I literally hired someone to walk our son from day care to school. The system says that it is close enough for my 5 year old to walk by himself. Affirmation that the system isn’t always right!
Thanks, Julia.
You said "Mr. Huff." Hee.
(Julia is an old friend whose comments I always appreciate.)
muddled thats jest the start im damn right lost right now
and yes Thank you Steve for running a site where people can say how the feel
I wonder if video heads are more likely to become sociopaths. I bet it is so. But if it was so, I am sure the video companies and their collaborators would make sure that we never knew about such research. Kind of like Big Tobacco and now cell phone companies (who know those phones are killing us, but keep imploring us to talk more and more and more...) I think video addiction, in and of itself, is anti-social behavior fostered by lazy parents who don't want to parent, but just want to appease Johnny Q. Vacant
bubba:
I wonder if video heads are more likely to become sociopaths. I bet it is so.
Hmmm NO you cant blame a game the blame falls on the player not the game or the game maker.
i play FFXI as much or more then she did and i would never do this the blame falls only on the person and the buck stops there
okay ,,,i found the link with no z,,and to verify jason story about her not bein on his friends list,,im on my space and there are several people i know on there that i havent added ,,her not bein on his page is irrevlavent,,,and i love video games ,,we all play in my family ,,even the kids ,,,they had no part of her actions ,,,
Reality Thank you
I agree that the blame is the players, but the cause of moral and social non-responsiveness is video addiction. And the person most likely to handle their child this particular needle is the typical lazy American parent who just wants to divert rather than develop their child..
No "video heads" are not more likely to "become" psycopaths. The fact that a person wonders that shows they don't fully grasp what a psychopath is. Psychopaths are born, not made. Consider it more like a possible pre-dispostion, some who are born with such a personality never do become a serial killer, and they abide by society's rules for the most part. Others have their personality exacerbated by abuse and other environmental factors.
It is as Steve said a "drug of choice" for some. Addictive personalities can be attracted to video games, just as they can be to drugs, alcohol, porn, or gambling. Not all "video heads" are addicts, some are hobbyists. Not all "video heads" have no life outside the internet, most do. Not all "video heads" neglect themselves or their duties. In short, the person who speculated such a thing is rather ignorant and would do well to go learn.
Babba, you do babble on don't you? Now it's "typical lazy Americans" eh? What are you, a Brit? The cause of moral and social non-responsiveness is much more complex than you are putting forth. There are numerous contributing factors, not just video addiction. (I assume by that you mean video games on both the computer and other gaming systems as well as television itself?) You think you grasp it all, but you don't really. You've stopped short once you've grasped some facts, but before you saw the whole picture. Go back and study some more.
Very well said KatK
Adding, no offense to most Brits with my previous comments. I have noticed a particular subset of people living in the U.K. who tend to look down on foreigners, especially Americans. Other countries also do this though, so apologies for grabbing the term "Brit" when I suppose "biggot" would do.
your welcome,,,and to you who judges me for allowing my childre to play video games (or handing them this needle persay),,,ha,,,my kids are straight A honor roll students,and we play them togeather ,,,you are wrong for sayin that ,,,sorry ,,but we really enjoy it as a family ,,,as a matter of fact they have learned quite a bit of skill from those games cause they make them think,,,unlike the boob toob which they love as well ,,,would you consider that a needle as well,,,,get over your high and mighty self,,,that is just down right shallow on your behalf
Great site!
Would you consider a Link Exchange with The Internet Radio Network? At the IRN you can listen for free to over 40 of America's top listened to Talk Shows worldwide via FREE STREAMING AUDIO!
http://netradionetwork.com
Awesome site Mr. Huff! Thanks for sharing that It will be a nice break from listening to Cartoon Network, noisy toys, and talking books!
Has anyone heard when the next hearing is scheduled for in this case (if one has been scheduled?
That ain't me.
It's spam, but I may let it stay.
That's funny! I did think it was an odd post, as I've never seen you post anything like that before, nor anyone else for that matter. It is a pretty cool site though, although it obviously has no relevance here.
i heard Nov 1
Babba, I read this blog daily, and have been following this case in particular. I usually lurk and don't say anything, but your comments have to be addressed.
I am a gamer.... My friends are gamers..... And NONE of us break the law, are lazy, or commit murder! I was in the military for 8 years, have served overseas in warzones, and I am a crime analyst for a police department. I work my 40+ hours a week, take care of my animals, good meals for myself and boyfriend, and GAME! My friends who game every evening for HOURS after their kids are in bed, and all work normal jobs, and do normal things. For you to say that people who game are 'addicted' and 'lazy parents' is ridiculous. My friends who game (and one is a game developer for his job) have very socialised, smart, happy childen. Don't blame the games, or gamers for choosing this as their form of entertainment. Blame the individual who is accused of murdering her child.
bluesky6, EXACTLY!
wow... I go back to work for a day and it takes me 15 min to read everything
to ALL -- please, please don't let this fiasco with ron's *STEP*mother have anything to do with whether or not you donate to the memorial fund. She has no say whatsoever, it is ron only who is in charge of it. All donations will be put towards funeral expenses and whatever is left over will be put in a trust fund for the other 3 kids. Ron is nothing short of a Hero. Even in the aftermath of everything, he is still trying to take care of michelle's other children and I have the greatest respect for him.
******************
response to doubt about jason -- I have personally spoke with him and verified who he is. I won't go into detail, but he is a close friend of michelle's who she mentioned to me on serveral occassions. He is who he claims to be and simply doubting him because michelle was not on his friend's list is totally inappropriate. By that logic, I don't have myspace so does that mean I don't have any friends? Stop and think before you accuse. They are friends in the live world as well as the gamer world. The game is a huge chatroom, so why would it make sense to talk to each other for several hours on the game and then go post a myspace comment... come on, people.
*********
I've said it before and I feel the need to say it again. Even close friends do not condone michelle's actions. All we want is to know exactly what happened, and NO ONE knows yet.
in case anyone lost it
Memorial Fund
http://www.wral.com/news/news_br.../story/1961360/
Sarah: Thanks ~ I missed that.
I apologize for forgetting who posted this, but there were so many comments to go through...
"...a distinctive difference between a murderer and someone who is grossly irresponsible and negligent."
No, there's not.
Grossly irresponsible and negligent parents are merely committing a cowardly form of slow, tortuous MURDER!
As a mentally ill, extremely addictive person who has had 2 children born under extremely harsh circumstances (not enough time or space to fill you in!) and a follower of true crime ever since reading Helter Skelter at age 14, I have come to the following conclusion: women, or girls, who kill their children either have no solid support system (family, friends) or maybe simply don't realize that they do.
I credit the love and support of my parents and siblings to my still being alive, and functioning pretty well, and their help with my oldest, and understanding of my "conditions" and while they have themselves faltered under the weight of their own dysfunctions, we are still a family, above all.
I realize that I'm extremely lucky.
HOWEVER, I also TOOK BIRTH CONTROL PILLS for years on end, even when I was not sexually active because I had a tendency to go out and have drunken 1-night stands from time to time, and even during ACTIVE DRUG ADDICTION, I was responsible enough to not bring another child into my shitty life.
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have familial support, but wouldn't that make you even more wary of having babies yourself?
For Christ'ssake, the world is already overpopulated...was ol' chellbelle on public assistance? I bet so. The more the merrier, right?
Babba is a troll; ignore him/her.
Some of my best times are/were playing video games WITH my sons. Just like my fond memories of my family of origin watching tv back in the day when we only got 2 channels.
That's all I've got to say.
you say the family has talked to ron's step mom well looks like she is out putting the family bussiness back in the new...im sorry all this is happening to her but im confused i though this was about baby jade...not airing more dirty laundry for the world to know about this is all on abc11tv.com webite were you discuss topics of your choice....I know the family has enough on there plate but i know one of you said you were a close friend maybe you need to let them know she is doing it again look at the time not ever an hour ago.....
From: alagirl1961 To: weetie1961 13 of 13 Sent: 10/24/2007, 7:10 PM
Hello all,
Update on my sister - the breathing machine was removed on Monday, and she is breathing on her own, but weak. Apparently, she had a severe stroke so her brain is permanently and badly damaged, along with possible blindness. The family has chosen to let her go on to be with our wonderful dad who passed away, also tragically, in October 1992, rather than her lie as a vegetable for possibly years in some nursing facility. Please pray for our family, too. My mom is having a very rough time... this was her firstborn, and my dad, her husband of 35 years, also died in October, as did her own mother several years ago.
We are a very close family and are naturally having an extremely difficult time handling both this and what has happened to our Baby Jade. Even though my family is only related to her by marraige, we see her as ours and are sorely grieved. Thank you once more for all of your concern, uplifting support, and most of all for your prayers. We do STILL have an awesome God. We will all somehow get through this and one day see how He used it to strengthen each and every one of us....
Ok, is Ron's step-mom mental? Does she realize that the forum she is posting to is about Baby Harmony and NOT for her personal problems? It is not a psychotherapy group. She really has a problem. This woman needs a reality check and quick! She is really dragging down the family.
lisafer - quote "I apologize for forgetting who posted this, but there were so many comments to go through...
"...a distinctive difference between a murderer and someone who is grossly irresponsible and negligent."
No, there's not.
Grossly irresponsible and negligent parents are merely committing a cowardly form of slow, tortuous MURDER!"
wow.... this shows true ignorance. We did not say she was or was not irresponsible when it came to caring for the children and I would rather not open that for discussion as I know she loved her kids and they were her life. I have only said specifically that she was irresponsible because she concealed the death.
*************
And for those judging her because of her kids - She had 3 kids by one person and the 4th from ron. First father wanted nothing to do with the kids at all. I don't even believe he was paying any type of support. I may be wrong, as I never discussed finances with her. The majority of the support for the household came from ron's paycheck. Not that anyone NEEDED to know, but it upsets me when people try to imply that she's pushing kids out to seek welfare checks and the more kids the bigger the check. That's just sick. I understand that you don't know her, but this certainly was NOT the case.
*********
as far as ron's step mom.... I have never met the woman, and family closer were supposed to say something to her. I think its safe to say I already can't stand her, just from the comments I've seen her make on a public forum. I put a great deal of time and thought into what I have to say and this woman spouts off garbage.
I noticed this yesterday when I was looking at a video of the space shuttle lift-off
http://www.wbng.com/news/local/1...l/
10738461.html
can anyone confirm about the name harmony? I'd like to think it's in honor/memory of but I can't seem to find anything on it
sarah -- where did you hear nov 1 from? I have not heard of a date yet, but since I've gone back to work I haven't had the opportunity to be around there as much as I would like
Not Important:
No offense and/or disrespect, but you have got to be kidding me . . . right? Did I read your comment as posted and did you inadvertently type this post incorrectly? Is this a trick question?
That would be a nice thought that it would be in the name and/or in honor of poor baby Harmony!
No use wasting time even researching and posting links. Search for how endeavors are named, including natural disasters (tornados, hurricanes, fires, etc.). Named well in advance dear.
Your heart is at least in the right place, and I again want to say that I mean no disrespect here! I still feel physically ill about this entire crime, and cannot imagine it including a friend of mine!
* * * * * * * * * *
Jason:
The last paragraph of this post goes out to you as well! In addition, I in no way intended a personal attack against you, but when you decided to come here, post, and then allege that your homepage was somehow incorrect due to a hacker, etc., I took great offense to that. I hope you understand why I questioned your credibility. I, amongst many many others, are daily/frequent visitors/posters here, and Mr. Huff does an awesome job in monitoring this wonderful site. I reacted defensively to you inference, but it was in no way personal. It was cleared-up when another discovered that "you" had typed in your homepage incorrectly.
As I stated to you previously, I am sorry you are close to anyone involved in this! That has got to be horrible!
Think of the next component set for delivery to the International Space Station as an international crossroads in space. That's the major function of the Italian-built U.S. module that will be ferried to the station aboard space shuttle Discovery during mission STS-120.
The pressurized component was named "Harmony" by U.S. students in a nationwide contest. "This module will allow all international partner pieces of the station to connect together, so it's really wonderful that kids recognize that harmony is necessary for space cooperation," said Bill Gerstenmaier, NASA's associate administrator for space operations, when the six winning schools who submitted the name were announced.
The module will be the connecting point between the U.S. Destiny lab, the European Space Agency's Columbus module and the Japanese Kibo module. Harmony's delivery to the station sets the stage for the following two space shuttle flights that will carry the Columbus and Kibo components to the station.
STS-120 Bringing Space Station ‘Harmony’
'Harmony' was delivered to Florida 4 years ago. It was probably named back in the late 90's.
There's just something that is "out of touch" about hoping that the current space shuttle mission was named in honor or memory of this murdered child.
Also, the idea that she is irresponsible for hiding the dead body, but in no way responsible for the child becoming a dead body, seems kind of like a bad case of denial.
Innocent people don't hide dead bodies and then lie about it all of the way to jail.
Mike - (see my previous post for clarification if needed) - you are one that makes me smile when I read your post. WELL SAID SIR!!!
the 1st case date is set im not giveing the info out. also the foster care date is set.
i will be at all the dates but at this time i will not be takeing Chells side in this sad story but i will be there for Ron the falmiy and the outher 3 young ones.
Chell was like a little sister to me for many many years but after this i can not back her any longer but i will never turn my back on her sweet young ones they have/still do mean the world to me.
in Dec of last year i fell hit my hand and fell into a deep commoa was in the state for many many days but win i woke in late Jan this year she was one of the 1st people i saw in my room in I.C.U.
She used to be shuch a sweet and careing person to all that she know and her kids was her world i have no clue what happined all i can guess is some how she lost her mind cuzs i tell you all this now she was not always the person that you all have been seeing in the video clips ive seen all the clips as well and knowing her as well as i do i tell you this she is no longer the woman i once called a best friend and a lil sister.
my heart gos out to Ron i cant yet even try to understand the pain he is liveing with but i do thank you all for all your kind words to him. he needs all our to make it through this ordeal.
ive never meet Ron face to face we have spoke online i know hes a very strong soul and i prey for him.
its times like this that make me look at the world and think can i ever truely trust anyone agen.
thank you Steve for running a site where people can freely talk of the things that most wish not to even think about.
no matter what the outcome of the case will be ive lost a great friend my trust is broken a trust that took many years to make.
may the truth comeout for Harmony
Such things can make you question yourself, your ability to figure things out. Don't let it impair your ability to enjoy life, and have companionship Jason. Humans are humans. Some you can trust with the deepest most precious pain. Others, you smile, nod, and speak of the weather with.
I'm not the most outgoing person in the world, but I do have dear friends. I do trust some a lot. Even after what I have experienced in life, I can trust. I've been through a nine year abusive marraige that ended with me in the battered women's shelter. The betrayal that came with the end of my marraige was a hard emotional blow that was meant to cause a wound that would never heal, it was meant to make my life a living hell. I live, I laugh, and I love, despite this. I won't let him prevail in this. Even though you've been dealt a hard blow, you can still love, trust, laugh, and enjoy life Jason. It may take time for you to figure out which way is up, but you can do this. The same words apply to Ron.
Jason - I think I speak for most of us who read this blog - Our hearts and prayers go out to the children and to Ron as well as their family and friends.
They are all lucky to have you as a friend.
Next court date is October 30th (a.m.) ~
http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/...&
courtRoom=PC02
* * * * * * * * * *
Jason:
There is no need for you to give out court dates, etc., if you choose not to. It is all of public record, including court files, unless a file has been sealed (which is usually only done to protect an interested party, and must meet certain criteria), or involves a juvie.
Sorry ~ I should have known the link would not go directly to the docket sheet through the back door. Pasted here, but if you start from the "home" page, you can get there.
* * * * * * * * * *
Arraigned Offenses for Case Number: 2007055821 CR
Arraigned Defendant Name: HEUSER,JOHNI,MICHELLE
County: HARNETT
Court Date: 10/30/2007
Session: AM
Court Room: PC02
Offense Code Description Statute
0935 Felony FIRST DEGREE MURDER 14-17
Jason:
You are not responsible for anyone other than yourself (and your children, if you have any), and you have no control over anyone other than yourself.
Very close life-long family friends of mine: He was a sheriff, she was a stay-at-home mother to their adopted baby girl (after years of trying to have one of their own, they finally were complete after adopting). Seemingly perfect little family. For reasons only known to them, they decided to divorce. During a bitter custody battle, he SHOT AND KILLED his wife, and the mother of their precious daughter. He is in prison now, sharing the very same space with people he helped put in there. I do not know where that little girl that we all loved dearly (now in her 20's) ended up.
I saw him on television being interviewed a few years ago from inside his jail cell. The mere sight of him made me cry, then get angry, and then numb ~ I do not even remember a word he said. However, I had to remember that he had wonderful, loyal, and devoted friends/family, and there was no reason for him ever take someone's life!
Rambling here, but just wanted to let you know that I am sure most of us have had tragedy close to us, but in the end, we are only responsible for ourselves. However, if we did not feel hurt or betrayed in some way, we would not be human. Again, I feel for you, but you cannot let someone's else's actions control your life.
I knew in my heart that the space shuttle thing was simply a coincidence. I wanted to believe it was in honor of, but I knew it wasn't and I suppose I was relying on some of the "level heads" here to set me straight. For the first time today, things really hit home.
**********
Jason - let me know how things go, you have my number. I'll leave it on while I'm at work, too. I've got some other info you may find interesting as well - take care, man
Mike -- "seems kind of like a bad case of denial."
probably is... I never said it wasn't. But have this happen to someone who you treat like a sister and then talk about having trouble accepting it. Yeah, I'm probably in denial... its a messed up situation and I'm have trouble even realizing that this isn't some horrible dream. Every night when I go to sleep I pray for God to take care of Jade, ron, family, friends affected, and to watch over michelle in her cell. I also pray that I will wake up in the morning and say something to someone about this whole situation and they'll look at me like I'm crazy and say "what are you talking about? Michelle just invited us over for a cookout with the kids." or something along those lines. I know its denial, but dammit..... I don't know any other way to get through the effin day. I'm working on it, I really am.... but man... this is rough as hell. I can't even drive by the house w/o thinking of all the time spent there, the laughing and joking and such. I can't even close my eyes without remembering holding Jade in my arms. She was the only newborn I'd ever held and the only baby I ever gave a bottle to. And that fucks with my mind constantly how something so precious with so much potential be taken away in an instant.
***********
I think its fair to say this has been my most emotional post yet.... so maybe I'm getting over this whole denial thing. I sure as hell hope so...
not important ~ I'm real sorry about how you feel. Obviously you were very close to Michelle. I understand that there is no way that anybody could or would be prepared for something like this to happen.
You have to understand that most of us are just far off observers. I've been reading true crime since I was old enough to read a newspaper. The local crime section is always the first part of the paper I go to.
I've always been fascinated with the criminal mind, and how they always seem to make the wrong choice when a choice comes along. Hiding a dead body is a classic. Usually, the perpetrator claims that they are innocent of any wrong doing concerning the death, but hid the body when they discovered it out of fear that they would be falsely blamed for the death.
This case is a classic, and I'll be watching to see how it turns out. The state wouldn't be charging her with murder unless they had some evidence that a murder occured. To file that charge it takes a little more than just the fact that she hid the body. They must have some additional evidence to support the charge.
I do feel sorry for Michelle's children, relatives, and friends. I know something like this is hard to deal with. I'd feel pretty weird about somebody if I had been in their house and they were acting normal and ordinary while they had a dead baby stashed in the attic.
I'd like to know more about Michelle's mother and whether she is close or visits often. Didn't anybody notice that the child had been missing for over two weeks? Why did she have to wait until the child's father came to town to remove the screen and baby clothes and try to fake an abduction? Wasn't anybody asking where the kid was before that?
the following is IMHO ONLY: This woman knew WHAT she did, WHEN she did it, and also was an aware and alert participant in COVERING IT.
She had other children! She had family close by! Holy hell...this woman is thinking the blindfold is down and that just aint gonna happen in this case (in the end...imho).
Any hindsight-pshychoanalysis-diagnoses are MOOT at this point.....if she were truly mentally ill we would have passed go a LONG time before the poor daddy got home!
I believe that we have here a young and immature mother who was under tremendous amounts of stress...but SHE MADE THE WRONG DECISION....AND CONTINUED WITH THE LIE. that lie was HER choice.
I am 43 years old, full time caretaker of my two sons (3 y.o. and 8 mos.) and I also work full time from home. So I can understand the stress - and my situation is way easier than trying to take care of four kids, much less as a 25 y.o. single parent. The 18 years I have on Michelle may mean I have less energy, but I'm sure I have more patience and long-term vision ("this too shall pass") than she does at 25.
I often wonder how in the world single parents do what they do - they certainly have my respect because I don't know how I would manage without my spouse!
Obviously stress is not an acceptable excuse to do what she's done, whether she caused the death or merely hid the body...but stress brought on by too much responsibility, too few funds and lack of sleep is a huge trigger for many things, including losing one's temper in a moment of frustration. This is my guess as to what happened and why this seems so out of character to those who knew her...she truly lost it and either shook, hit or smothered the baby. Then she "woke up" at some point after the baby died and realized the horror of what she had done, and knew that her "temporary insanity" would still land her in prison where she would have no ability to care for her other kids. She knew that what was done was done, so she tried to cover it up and move on...
It is chilling, but I think she was probably in a dissociative state the entire time from when Harmony died to when the police took her in for questioning. She may still be - that would help explain why no one recognizes the woman in court as the Michelle they knew before.
I am not condoning an insanity defense, by any means...I just think it is very sad for everyone involved, that Michelle may have been drowning and no one realized how precarious things were...and she obviously didn't feel like she could reach out for help any more than she already was.
My prayers to Ron, her children, and their families.
I would just like to make a few comments. First I would like to apologize to RockyMtnMom for what she has been through, I am sure that was a horrible and tough situation.
Next, I would just like to say that I was a single mom for 13 years and yes, things do get tough, and I had no family support. I did not crack under the pressure, and if I did, it was NEVER on my child...it was never his fault I was in that situation. I will never understand anyone saying they just snapped and killed their child...sorry, don't buy it...the thing that really sucks is that she will probably get off of the murder charge because of post partum....I am sorry, I just don't agree with that but this is our wonderful justic system. I think that they really need to start being tough on these people....if they did that maybe less children would be hurt and killed by these so-called parents.
Not Important: I am so sorry for what you are going through. I know you are hurting and I know you are starting to see things for what they are. I am not saying these things to upset you, I am a very outspoken person when it comes to protection of children. I am sure a lot of people will say that but honestly, I am lucky someone hasn't slapped me around a few times for things I have said to parents....usually when they leave their kids in a car that is not running on a hot day and they just "run" into a store. I am sorry if my comments upset you, they are not meant that way.
I agree, CN - I am not trying to make excuses for Michelle and I do not want to see her "get off easy" for murder, if she did indeed kill her baby (whether premeditated, which is hard to imagine - 2nd degree, manslaughter, negligent homicide, whatever). Frankly, I have long been tired of people making excuses for criminal behavior and I want to see accountability. If a parent "loses it" in a fit of frustration, s/he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and hopefully convicted of the appropriate charge. Thankfully a defense of insanity, temporary or otherwise, is usually the least successful defense.
My kids and partner are the best thing that has ever happened to me, and I make no apologies for anyone who hurts children - EVER, in ANY way. It breaks my heart. But since I've had kids I can also see how stressful it can be even in the best of situations, and how undiagnosed depression (and as I mentioned earlier...poverty, lack of resources whether perceived or real, lack of sleep, etc.) can affect one's judgment and sense of reality in sometimes scary ways. I have no idea what happened in this case, and I am trying to understand what could have gone so terribly wrong to lead to such a horrible result. It's not like anyone is stepping forward to say "I knew it would come to this, she didn't love those kids." On the contrary, her friends and family have said that "those kids were everything to her."
I guess what I'm saying is that we can hate what happened and want justice while still trying to understand the how and why of it. Simply writing off all filicides as "evil" does not help us recognize what more we can do to protect innocent kids. I only wish the previous visit from DHS/DFCS had led to some intervention for them.
John,
Very thoughtful post.
Is there any word on the cause of death yet?
John - thanks for being thoughtful. I had a long post I wa going to write, but your last 2 pretty much summed up my thoughts. I'm glad there are others who are looking beneath the surface for answers
********
What still bugs me is she never once reached out for help...
NI - if the baby died from sids and she lost it, that isnt murder. You can hold out on that.
Not Important,
I've read this blog in it's entirety, and I think the most profound thing that has been said here, is your one simple question. " Why didn't she reach out for help". All I can say is the walls that get crunched, the dents that are made in mailboxes,& stopsigns,the punching bags that are worn out, the miles that are driven, the long walks to seemly no where that are taken, are all apart of trying to answer that question, as well as the endless tears.Even if there is a scientific explanation found, there will never be any logic to be had, in a case like this. There never is. This is one of those life altering events, that makes a true man out of even a grown one.
Even though Ron has seen things from being in a war zone that most of us could not even imagine, he is truly seeing with his own eyes how the real world is, as is his family, whether be of an older generation or of his own peer group. They deserve all the respect that they could ask for. They are all private, and caring and honorable, and very much loved. I just hope that they really comprehend the depth of new found respect those that know and love them truly have.
Here is a similar case, only it has a major difference. The 19 year old mother found her child dead. She called her boyfriend. Then she called 911. She heard the emergency workers talking about SIDS, so she told them about how she had taped a pacifier to the baby's face so that it wouldn't fall out.
The next thing that happened was, the 19 year old mom was arrested and taken to jail and charged with murder.
19 year old mom was released from jail because they couldn't prove that taping a pacifier to the kid's face was the cause of death. They don't know what caused the kid's death.
They do know one thing for sure. The mother called 911 instantly upon discovery that the child wasn't breathing. She didn't hide the body. She didn't lie to anybody. She was right up front. She told them that she had taped a pacifier to the kid's face. She wanted them to know that in case that was what caused the kid to die.
It turned out that taping the pacifier to the kid's face could not have killed or harmed the kid, and the mother was exonerated.
The point I'm trying to make is, this story, as stupid as it is, at least demonstrates honesty on the mother's part. The tragic story of Harmony and her mother who stashed her body in the attic while the neighbors searched their yards for dead animal stink, demonstrates profound dishonesty.
Police: Baby died after pacifier taped to face
Police: Baby died after pacifier taped to face
I'm trying to post the link again. I didn't think that haloscan prohibits link posting. I've checked it for typos so,... I hope this link works.
Published on Friday, October 26, 2007
No cause found yet in baby's death
A staff report
ADVERTISEMENT
SPRING LAKE — The cause of Harmony Jade Creech’s death remains unknown.
The 11-month-old’s skeletal remains were found (Oct. 20) in her mother’s home at 1680 Ray Road in Harnett County.
Lawmen have said the remains were wrapped in plastic and stuffed into a diaper box.
Harmony’s mother, Johni Michelle Heuser, 25, told lawmen she found the baby dead in a crib and hid the body because she was afraid.
Heuser is charged with first-degree murder in her daughter’s death.
Harmony’s remains were sent to the N.C. Medical Examiner’s Office in Chapel Hill, where doctors will try to determine how and when the child died.
No preliminary cause has been determined, a spokeswoman there said today.
Sarah, please post a link to that information so I can read the article for myself, or let us know where it came from.
thanks
http://www.fayobserver.com/artic...ticle?
id=276061
not sure if the link will work if it doesnt it is on fayettevillenc.com its the local newspaper on the front if you scroll down you will see the article about how there is no cause of babys death as of yet
what is sad is that it appears they will put her away for murder weather they determine the cause of death or not at this point ,,,simply because she tryed to conceal and hide the babys body, i have a feeling they wont find a cause,,,such as the case with pacifier baby,,i hope they do but it isnt likely ,,,,I Still dont see how they can charge her with murder with no evidence that shows proof,,,that blows me away,,,where and what is the proof they arent releaseing to the public?I still say that no sane mother for any reason could kill her child ,,,weather leagally insane or not there is something hidden in her that caused her to do it ,,,i couldnt kill a stranger ,,let alone my own child,,,
Sarah:
Thank you for the update! I was really hoping that this process would go quickly so this poor little angel could be laid to rest, and her family be able to at least get past burying their loved one.
* * * * * * * * * *
Reality:
There is a reason they have charged this sorry excuse for a mother with 1st Degree Murder! This is an ongoing investigation, and, for obvious reasons, they are not releasing much of anything. They could have not charged her, pending investigation; could have charged her with a much lesser crime, which later could have been amended after results were conclusive; etc. They obviously, either through her confession, the scene, or clear and convincing evidence after finding Harmony, have charged her with 1st Degree Murder. How can you possibly say there is "no evidence that shows proof" for charging her with 1st Degree Murder? We, the public, know very little at this point as to what they know, have been told, etc.
As for your statement "no sane mother for any reason could kill her child", I have to wonder if you even read about crime. This is happening, has been happening at an alarming rate, and often times it is not just a "child" it is all of their "children". It isn't even limited to just "mothers", but fathers, step-parents, boyfriends, grandparents, etc.
In my opinion, what Heuser did with this poor child, not even considering the how or why she was deceased in the first place, is despicable, and she should be sentenced to the maximum. On top of that, she constructed an abduction story, lied to family/officials, failed her poly, and the WORST ~ this baby's body purportedly was skeletal! I would assume that performing an autopsy to determine the cause of death upon a little skeletal body would not be an easy task to perform.
REVOLTING, DISGUSTING, and why are you supporting and/or defending this mother???? And, you are a mother?
Hold the damn phone women,,i wasnt defending her at any rate ,,,and yes i do read all the time about crime,,,and yes i am a mother,,it was a question?? in other words i cant figure out how she could do that , thats all ,, i am outraged at all these crimes happening to children,,,i did not have a good childhood at all,,,and my mother was no saint,,,so i have very deep compasion for children in dysfunctional family,,,you need to get a grip ,,,im simply tryin to understand,,i was just what kind of evidence we werent being told ,,,and i give a shit less what you say,,,that mother was not sane or in clear thinking,,,that is in no way defending her,,,she deserves to be punished for what she did ,,,BUT I STILL SAY SHE IS NOT RIGHT,,,BUT I AM NOT SAYIN THAT AS AN EXCUSE FOR HER ,,besides who are you jesus christ,,,your no one to judge no matter how big or small the crime ,,he will forgive her,,,im not defending her ,,but how dare you lash out me for trying to find reason,,,thats just wrong,,, its a simole matter of "I DONT GET IT , SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT WOMEN"
PERIOD!!!!!!
the above comments were made as it is possible that she didnt kill her you dont know that for sure ,,,im sayin if she didnt
You are right, Reality, we do not know for sure if she murdered her daughter. I for one would love to think that she didn't. (although I think that she did.) But she has been charged at this point with 1st degree murder for a reason(s). If evidence proves that she did not kill her, I would think that the charge would be reduced to negligence, "covering up a death", "stashing your flesh and blood in a box in the attic charges" "wasting tax payers money because of all of her lies", etc... - whatever the charges should be for these crimes. (Okay it is quite obvious that I am newer to reading about crime and no basically no legal terminology.) But as a mom and a human being, the FACTS that we do know make her guilty of many things beyond her daughter's death.
Let me add here I honestly do not think I can name one person that I know who's family isn't dysfunctional in some way or another or at least at some point. And that as a reason/ excuse is just a little over-used.
I want to know the truth and I hope that there is some reason that Michelle did what she did. THERE IS NO EXCUSE - but there may be reasons. And I for one would love to know why so that maybe we can stop things like this from happening again. Hope that makes sense.
well said julia ,,,,i should of just written it differently,,,that is what i was gettin at,,,,im not saying a rough childhood is an excuse,,i just meant it made me overly sensitve to those poor childre cause i have been there ,,,thats all,,,and i want to know the reasons as well,,,thats all ,,,
I'm not sure there will ever be enough or good enough reasons why she did what she did. It doesn't make sense to the average human, let alone mother. That's the thing about studying criminal psychology, there are things we must simply accept because they will never have a rational behind them that we can comprehend fully. For the corrupt mind their actions make sense to them, but maybe noone else. Having a corrupt mind does not always equate to insanity either.
I'm far from convinced that Michelle is insane or is suffering from PPD. It's possible, but I'm not convinced based on what we do know. The level of planning that went into this from the start, up to the staged abduction and ball face lying to LE, lead me away from both of those. That's more of a criminal brain at work. If she was insane I doubt she would have had the ability to continue caring for her other three children, masquerade a cover-up, concoct a story, and cry on cue. If she was suffering from PPD there would have been warning signs. People would have noticed. And had she been delusional from PPD then she wouldn't have covered up the crime, nor been capable of taking care of her other children.
All of the above info doesn't mean it is impossible she was insane or suffering from PPD, just that it's highly unlikely. I believe LE was able to ascertain the type of mind they were dealing with and after taking in all of the evidence they charged her with M1. It would be much easier to believe, (for everyone), that she is sick, rather than she is evil or did something evil.
Don't get me wrong, I'm withholding any judgement of her for now simply because we do not have the entire story. My thoughts are based on the charges and actions she took.
Thank you for those of you who has given my family the moral and often emotional support through this ordeal with my grand daughter, Harmony Jade Creech. For some of you that thought my wife had ulterior motives, shame on you, each person deals with stress in different ways, and my wife was dealing with the stress of me being away from home, and her sister lying in the hospital dying in the best way she knew. No she isn't clueless, but merely looking for sympathy,and understanding, but instead she found some sympathy, and a lot of hard hearted individuals whom themselves are "clueless" as to how to have understanding for others. I do not have harsh words for you as you had for my wife, but I wish in the future you would understand. My wife is grieving for my grand daughter also, as well the loss of her sister who died this Friday morning. As for the charges against the mother, let the law do their job, they know facts you and I do not know! I do ask for the continued prayers for my son, and our family, and ask for prayer for those commenting here, that seem to have no tolerance of others Thank you. Ron
Ron- The majority of people here are praying for you, your son and the rest of your family. Personally, I cannot fathom the loss. I hope that you and everyone involved is able to find peace and gain some kind of grasp on what good can be made from this terrible situation. I'm sure that Harmony Jade did not die in vain. Many people have been touched by the short life of this precious baby. Thoughts and prayers to you all.
Ron:
Thank you for your post! I, as well as many many others, have been praying for Ron, Harmony's siblings, Harmony's grandparents, aunts, uncles, and friends, and will continue to do so. From my heart, I am so truly sorry for all of you having to deal with this horrible tragedy, that this precious angel is not with you, and I honestly do not know how one would cope with this as a family member! Simply breaks my heart, I have shed many of tears, and I have no "personal" connection to anyone involved.
As for any feelings I have shared here, and speaking as a mother of 3, I am angry, in disbelief, and am waiting like so many others to learn that "hopefully" Ms. Heuser did not cause any harm to their beautiful daughter. Likewise, thinking about your son Ron and Harmony's siblings, whom have been victimized in a way that most could never begin to imagine, makes it that much worse ~ to me anyway! I know first hand what the loss of a child feels like. There is nothing on this earth that compares to that pain!!!
You are all in my thoughts (including most, if not all, that post here, elsewhere, and from around the globe)! I hope you all, in time, find some peace, and continue to be strong for one another! My thanks to Ron for his devotion to his country, my deepest regrets that he returned to a disaster, and I hope that his wishes are carried out, no matter what they may be. Be well!
TO: Reality | 10.27.07 - 2:34 pm
THIS IS ABOUT A BABY THAT IS NO LONGER HERE, and a so called mother that acted in covering-up her baby's death. I never claimed to know what happened, have not stated she had anything to do with her death (wishful thinking), but the aftermath is tell-tell. I also hope I am wrong, but actions speak.
* * * * * * * * * *
As for your outbursts . . . excuse me, comment posted above:
"Hold the damn phone women":
You need to calm down! If I interpreted your comment other than you meant it to be and/or misunderstood, that is easily resolved without stating "Hold the damn phone women"! Respect anywhere is key! I always am receptive, understanding, and respectful of other's opinions, insight, feelings, beliefs, etc. There is no need ever be disrespectful! If we agree to disagree, we disagree. Please hold off on my comments if you choose to address me in this fashion, but if you feel the need to rebut with a comment, so be it. By the way, I am not a "women", I am a "woman", and that will be the only snotty remark I will make here period! Normally, I would never have responded to your comment. BUT then you said . . .
* * * * * * * * * *
"you need to get a grip":
A grip on what??? I do have a fairly strong grip on family/children being a mother of 3 (16, 5 & 2) ~ same dad and together for 22 yrs.). In addition, I am a work-at-home mother with the same firm I left after the birth of my last born, busy and stressed-out mother/wife that "cooks" dinner almost every night, no sleep as I work after my family is fast asleep (lucky to get 4, but sometimes -0-), my husband works full-time, my 16 yr. old is an athlete, etc. A grip on WHAT? BUT then you said . . .
* * * * * * * * * *
"i give a shit less what you say":
That is just plain disrespectful! Why would you say that? I will not lower myself to your level with a response. BUT then you said . . .
* * * * * * * * * *
"besides who are you jesus christ":
Impossible! My name consists of 27 letters (REALLY), and from what I have been told and/or read, Jesus Christ passed away quite some time ago, so it would be a little difficult to pass as an imposture in his name, nor would I ever want to be anyone but me, muchless Jesus Christ. Plain silly ~ shoe before the sock!!!
well , dont call people revolting and discusting ,for simply tryin to make since of it all,,,yeah i took defense to that , and you are the one who attacked me
If I could just step-in here to moderate for a second...reality, I think Rocky was referring to the task of performing an autopsy on the skeletal remains of baby Jade as "revolting and disgusting", not you or your viewpoint. "Revolting and disgusting" from the standpoint of how could this mother have allowed this to occur to Jade that she would only be skeletal remains at this point. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Rocky.
Just a quick aside: Sometimes it's better to stepback before replying to people on the Internet or asking for a clarification before replying since sometimes our intention gets miscontrued through typing since we can't show inflection. Misunderstandings are commonplace on the net.
and to if you noticed that whole comment was made in reference to the pacifier baby story i had just read,,,
your right emerson,,,and i feel she did just that by implyig that i was defending michelle,,,maybe i was a little tacky,,but this is my first time ever blogin for any reason so i am not as a custom to things,,,(but dont question my being a mother as she did ) i am very good mother ,, and all im tryin to do is walk her shoes as best as i can,,,to you rocky mom,,im sorry if i mistook you ,,,but it did seem you were belittleing me due to the statement i made ,,and questioning my capability of being a mother,,,unlike you i have three kids and i have been a single mom before my fabulous husband came into the picture,,,you dont know the struggle of raising children on your own ,,and also the feeling of failure you have hangin over you,that being said ,,,i still am not condonein what she did ,,,i have literally sat here and taken the details that i have heard to be fact ,,,and tryed to retrace her steps and figure out what she was thinkin ,,and what was her breakin point,,,,everyone has there breaking point ,,some peoples ropes are just stronger then others,,,(all that said , its not to defend her ,,,but to figure out her thought pattern as everyone elsde wants to do ) and to i am not the best at typeing , so it all kinda runs togeather ,,,i just dont get a lot free time to be such a perfectionist about it , so it could partly be in my delivery ,,,as emerson said,,,again i do apoligize for being a little disrespectful,,but you did seem to be attacking me over my comment and i was very irritated at that fact
Yes, that was exactly what I was referring to. Reality, if you have read any of my other posts, you should have been able to gleen that I would never address anyone in such a manner!
Thank you Emmerson 
my apoligies ,,( for that ) but you still questioned my being a mother ,,,thats still rude
Emmerson:
Just wanted to say that your two posts (before the "intervention") are exactly in line with my thoughts . . . once again. It has troubled me deeply how she could just carry on, day-to-day, taking care of the other three children (and, gosh, with little baby present), as well as follow through with her "abduction" scheme. I do believe insanity/illness will be a toughy as a defense here.
Emerson: Sorry for typing your name wrong!
No problem Rocky! Lots of people do that! In re: to the case, there was a concerted and conscious effort to conceal this death, while pretending everything was normal, which leads me to it being a conscious action that caused this death. Was it neglect or physical abuse or smothering? We may never know, but either way, she was attempting to escape punishment, and it was calculated.
Reality- I understand where you are coming from. Glad you are here and joining in the conversation. We have all had out online "spats" and it's par for the course really. There are plenty of times I've gotten my panties in a wad over something someone said and decided when that happens I'm going to step away before responding. Otherwise, Steve's blog would have been full of very colorful posts by me! And I respect that it's his house first and I don't want to break the furniture in a rumble.
"Emerson":
I am in total agreement with your thoughts. One thing that also has been weighing heavily on my mind is whether she acted out in anger towards Harmony's father. Was there a recent argument between the two regarding visitation and/or custody (since he was returning to the US and all)? Did she do something to Harmony knowing it would hurt and/or punish Mr. Creech?
Of course, purely speculating here, but I have seen parents cause irreparable harm to their children (mentally) in an effort to hurt the other parent, maintain/gain custody, try to prove to the court that the other parent is unfit, etc. (hence, my total dislike of working on family law matters, which is sadly the majority of the cases I do work on).
I just hope and pray that they are able to put the pieces together quickly, so that everyone involved can hopefully move on in time, no one else feels somehow responsible, and that Michelle's other babies are placed in a happy and healthy environment together, with all of the support systems needed readily available. So many victims here, so many lives changed, and three little people that will not be raised by either one of their biological parents. Heartbreaking
RockyMTNMom,
The true victims in this case are the children yes, because they are unable to make the choices and/or defend themselves, and I'm sure Mr. Creech sees that too as a father figure, but honestly, If it were me, I think that I'd bring my daughter home to where my family is, bury her, walk away completely, and let the state of NC deal with the other issues. Those children have biological family. I read somewhere about a custody hearing. Although Mr. Creech is an honorable man for what I am assuming is his attempt to take on the responsibility of those three, I worry that in the long run he'll not be able to put aside the hurt and grief that he is going through, and it might not be in the best interest for any of them. As with the Andrea Yates case...those that know her are forever tied too her. The children truly have a chance to be able to live their lives anonymously, because their sir-name is not the same as baby Harmony's.
Lily- I do see your point in this, however mr.Creech took resposibility for those children the day he got involved with michelle,,and he may be the closest thing to a father they know, its not fair to them to lose their sister , mom , and only man they know to be daddy,,if he as in fact been a stable 'figure in their life,,kids dont care at this age about blood,,they just see the love that he has given to them , and that is all they need,and i say he should have every right to fight for those babies if the other father hasnt been there for them ,,,,they are my biggest concern in this case , they will be damaged the most of all,,jsut my thoughts , and opinion, n;o offense..
and thank you emerson,,,that wont happen again,,:0)
Wait until you read the following! It's like Heuser committed a copycat crime ~ chilling!!! Was anyone else here familiar with this case?
http://www.komotv.com/news/archi...ve/
4171691.html
"Navy Wife Accused Of Killing Her Baby
Story Published: Dec 13, 2005 at 1:13 PM PDT
Story Updated: Aug 31, 2006 at 2:09 AM PDT
By Michelle Esteban
BREMERTON - An 18-month-old girl was found dead Tuesday, and police say it was the result of neglect at the hands of the child's mother.
The mother, 21-year-old Richael Rhoades, is a Navy wife who told police she was so depressed, she stopped caring for her two children.
Police found the baby girl dead in a sealed box in the woman's Naval home in Bremerton. They think the 18-month-old has been dead since before Thanksgiving.
From neighbors to seasoned police investigators -- and even the Navy, this case is beyond shocking.
"This is sad, it's a serious concern of ours and we're perplexed," said Navy spokesman Tom Danaher.
No one knew the horror inside the Jackson Park Naval Community townhouse. Police say for weeks a helpless baby girl was neglected to death by her own mother.
Police say the trouble began when baby Brenda got sick and her mother did nothing. Police say Rhoades told them she didn't go to the doctor because she was worried someone would see the condition of her children and know she was neglecting them.
Court documents revealed the mother rarely fed or bathed her children -- sometimes giving the baby only a bottle of milk a day. She told police for weeks her 3-year-old son fended for himself.
She told police that in mid-November, Brenda had a fever of 102. She says she gave her baby Aspirin, then left her alone in her playpen for nearly two days, and when she finally checked on the baby, she was dead. The baby was slumped up against her bedroom door.
Not knowing what to do with the baby, she put her in a garbage bag, then in a box and taped it shut. The mother said she didn't call police because she panicked.
Instead, the first thing she did was play video games, and days later, she went to neighbors for Thanksgiving dinner. All the while, her baby was dead in a box on her front porch.
It was the baby's father who first made the gruesome discovery. The Navy says Petty Officer Michael Rhoades had been on the submarine USS Maine for more than two months. When he got home on Sunday, he found his baby girl's body in a box and found his neglected 3-year-old son.
In court documents, Richael Rhoades says she told her husband how the baby died, they then ate dinner, had sex, and she says the next day, Michael Rhoades called Navy security.
"There are so many options for us as Navy wives to ask for help when something is that severe," says neighbor Lisa Bragg. Her husband has been gone since January on an aircraft carrier.
Richael says she blames her depression on their recent move to Washington. Her husband's sub used to be stationed in Georgia, but in Aug
SORRY ~ my post exceeded the word limit. Here is the rest of the story:
"Richael says she blames her depression on their recent move to Washington. Her husband's sub used to be stationed in Georgia, but in August, they got transferred here. She's been alone with the kids while her husband was on the sub. She claims she was suicidal.
The mother now faces possible charges of second-degree murder. Their 3-year-old son is currently in protective custody."
Just posting a couple of other links that some might find interesting:
Search Warrant (I could not recall if this had been shared here or not):
http://content.news14.com/pdf/
Cr...eechWarrant.pdf
* * * * * * * * * *
North Carolina Department of Corrections ~ Women on Death Row:
http://www.doc.state.nc.us/dop/d...nalty/
women.htm
Note: On the Incarceration Summary page, all four inmates are listed as "Control Status: REGULAR POPULATION". Does anyone know if this means they also share cells? If Hauser is found guilty as charged, and is in "regular population", I do not anticipate that her stay there as a baby killer will be an easy one. She deserves the worst conditions possible, in my opinion!!!
come on now... was that really necessary??
I mean seriously... wait for some results before condemning her to death
Not Important:
I am sorry if I offended you ~ it was not intended! However, I in no way am "condemning her to death". As I stated, "[If] Heuser is [found guilty as charged], and is in "regular population", I do not anticipate that her stay there as a baby killer will be an easy one. (Emphasis added.)
Only a judge and jury can condemn someone to death. As I have said many times before, I feel for anyone associated with Heuser ~ honestly! But, this crime has outraged many, and I believe for most of us it is, at this point, purely based on her actions after baby Harmony died. No one can argue that it is not disturbing, heartbreaking, horrific, etc. As for how this little angel died is still to be determined and/or released to the public.
I was merely researching punishments and/or time that fit a crime such as this, and I ran across the Department of Correction's site. I shared it because it was interesting to me, and I felt it may be interesting to others. I made no inference such as, "there will now be five on the list"; "from the looks of these women, good luck"; etc.
BTW, I actually have very mixed feelings regarding the death penalty, as I actually think it is a lighter sentence than having to survive within regular population (firmly believe they should not be afforded a private cell, nor should be protected from other inmates. If you commit a crime heinous enough to have been sentenced with the death penalty, or even sent to a maximum security facility because you are so freekin evil, why the protection (and, guess who the hell pays for all of these luxuries?). That is purely my opinion.
Again, sorry if I offended you, that is not something I intentionally do.
Not Important:
I also meant to add . . .
Please don't hate me. I am simply one of many outraged mothers, who are so completely fed-up with crimes against children (murder, sexual abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse, neglect, etc.), and crimes in general.
My three beautiful children are my world, and my world completely revolves around them!!! My husband and I have been through rough times (22 years together ~ you bet we have), but we have always always put our children before ourselves. Adults are the ones that bring children into this world, and how way to many have not evolved into a "parent" role is beyond me, and somehow the child always ends up with the short stick. Yes, I do have my own interests, many of which are shared with my children (cooking, gardening, . . .), but my interests are and have always been second to my children ~ I chose to bring them into this world. We are a family, a team, love each other unconditionally, and so on.
I hope you somehow can see why I say what I say, react as I react, and, bottom line, JUST WANT JUSTICE! Harmony deserves justice and Mr. Creech deserves justice. As for Heuser's poor surviving babies, I am not sure what if any justice they will receive ~ too young to understand, their lives have been changed forever, their sister is dead, and mom is alive but not available to take care of them, etc. They have been robbed, and I can only hope that they have a super strength support system!!!
RockyMTNMama,
*I* remember that case from Bremerton, Washington a few years ago and it was the FIRST THING I thought of when I heard this story also! I was just as chilled as you were! I was going to post a link to the story but you beat me to it.
has there been no word on her court appearance yesturday,,,i heard that she had to go yesturday,,,does any one no the outcome yet ?? just wondering cause i havent heard yet.
Fourkidzmom:
Yesterday is actually the first that I have ever heard of that case ~ just happened upon it. Wow, I am still shuddering ~ just too horrible to think that even one mother could do this to their child. Still shocked as it appears that there's actually "another" mother that put gaming before the needs of her children. Yeah, the similarities between these two cases is remarkable, to say the least!
Oh, and I probably only beat you in posting the link as you have one more needing his/her mommy than I do (assuming from your name) !
* * * * * * * * * *
Angel:
I perused the court's calendar yesterday, did see her name still listed, and as far as I can tell, all hearings were tee'd up to start at 9:00 a.m. (you know, no set time, a/k/a cattle call).
Anyway, I then checked the docket sheet (if you will), and it still only reflected the 10/30 hearing ~ or, in other words, had not been updated, nor reflected that it had been rescheduled. Other than that, I have not found one mention about the hearing, and am very surprised that the media was not all over this one! Odd, isn't it? Yesterday I wondered if maybe they had rescheduled it, but the docket sheet does not reflect anything different (sometimes it does take a day or two for the clerks to enter data though).
I would imagine that the reason that the media hasn't been all over this, is they can't get to Michelle, nor the family anymore. They've been told to leave them alone, and usually when the Military speaks folks listen.
Accused mother won't appear in court
10/30/2007 12:48 PM
By: News 14 Carolina Staff
Johni Michelle Heuser LILLINGTON, N.C. -- A mother charged with killing her baby then hiding the body will not appear in court Tuesday.
Johni Michelle Heuser was scheduled to face a judge in Harnett County court. The Harnett County district attorney removed Tuesday’s probable cause hearing from the docket. No reason was given for the change.
Heuser was arraigned on first degree murder charges last week. She had originally reported her baby, 11 month old Harmony Creech, as missing from her Spring Lake home.
Investigators eventually found Harmony's remains in the attic. Heuser then admitted that Harmony had died several weeks ago and said she hid the body because she was afraid.
news14.com
Sarah: I can find no mention of the above article at news14.com. Can you paste a link?
Heuser's name is no longer showing in Harnett County. I am fairly confident there has been a change of venue.
Here's a link to the news14 article:
http://snipurl.com/1t0i9
RockyMtnMom, how could they have already filed the motion for change of venue, had hearings before the judge and been handed a favorable decision in that matter? And all without anyone reporting about it? I think it is too early in the legal process for this to have occurred, and even then it wouldn't have happened that quickly.
John:
I totally agree with you, know that process does take time, and even if expedited. However, how would you explain that the hearing did not occur as scheduled, and suddenly the case is no longer found in the Harnett court's records, and just as of this morning. As of now, the case does not show-up in any county. A venue change was the only reason I could surmise. I also am not being familiar with a military environment, and wondered if maybe they have influence over the common citizen (because this involves Mr. Creech's child). Having thought about it more, it is possible the file has been sealed, and that would make more sense to me, in that it does involve children. I've seen courts handle sealed cases differently, in that some cases do appear, but no documents can be viewed, or the case will not be listed with other case files, and its existence cannot be verified by anyone other that those authorized. What are your thoughts?
Thanks for providing the link ~ not sure why it would not come-up when running a name search.
Local Newspaper reports:
http://www.dunndailyrecord.com/m...SectionID=1&
S=1
"Heuser's Attorney Criticizes Statements Made About Case
Fusco says media coverage, sheriff’s statement should make it impossible for client to get fair trial.
Steve Reed
Reporter
Wednesday, October 31, 2007
Heuser
Johnni Michelle Heuser's defense attorney said it may be impossible for the 25-year-old mother and murder suspect to receive a fair trial.
"In any criminal case, the lawyers, government agencies and law enforcement officers have an obligation and a responsibility to insure a fair and impartial trial for the defendant," Dunn attorney Phil Fusco said in a written statement. "Extra-judicial statements should not be made about the case to anyone, including the media. I am concerned that law enforcement has seen fit to freely make statements about this case and the defendant."
Sheriff Larry Rollins, at an Oct. 22 press conference, called Ms. Heuser a "habitual liar."
The body of Ms. Heuser's daughter, 11-month-old Harmony Jade Creech, was found in the attic of her Ray Road home on Oct. 20.
Ms. Heuser was charged Oct. 21 with first-degree murder in her death. Sheriff Rollins said Ms. Heuser was not cooperating with investigators because she was telling lies about the chain of events.
"We did a polygraph and it confirmed she is a habitual liar," Sheriff Rollins said. "As we continue to investigate, we continue to find more discrepancies."
Harmony was reported missing Oct. 19 and a statewide Amber Alert was issued. Crying in the background of the 911 call made by her mother to report the missing child, Ms. Heuser said she last saw Harmony Oct. 18 when she fed her and put her to bed.
Ms. Heuser described for the emergency operator what Harmony was supposedly wearing when she saw her asleep in her bed. Ms. Heuser changed her story after the baby's body was found.
Investigators with the FBI, including child behavioral specialists from as far San Francisco, Boston and Miami, helped sheriff's deputies locate Harmony's remains in the box.
Harmony's father, Army Sgt. Ronald Creech, released a statement through the Army's 82nd Airborne Division, of which he is a member. Sgt. Creech returned from a 15-month deployment to Iraq the same day his daughter was reported missing.
Sgt. Creech and Ms. Heuser were not married. He said Ms. Heuser had a history of telling lies.
"Harmony's mother was good at deceiving everyone who would ask about Harmony and where she was," Sgt. Creech said in the statement. "The stories were credible and everyone believed her.
"My goal for the last year was to complete my mission and return to my children," he said. "I have returned home to a tragedy."
"Such extra-judicial statements have, and will continue, to make it impossible to get a fair and impartial trial in this case," Mr. Fusco said.
Sheriff Rollins said three
Exceeded the word limit ~ here is the rest of the story:
"Sheriff Rollins said three other children in the home at the time of the 911 call Oct. 19, twin boys and a girl, are now in foster care. They are Ms. Heuser's children from a previous marriage.
Ms. Heuer was scheduled for a probable cause hearing today in Harnett District Court. Attorneys on both sides are expected to seek a continuance in the case."
John:
Also meant to add to my prior comment, that even if the court has been moved to seal the file, there is a process to achieve that as well . . . which you probably well know.
After reading the above news article, I wonder if it was the Court's decision to remove the case from radar until various issues have been resolved. Who knows? I am certain a venue change will be requested, and won't be surprised if it is granted. In a case such as this, without even knowing critical facts, I believe it will not matter where this is heard . . . Heuser's actions are inexcusable.
One scenario may be that she has taken a plea agreement, and a confidentiality agreement been reached by all parties involved. The only other alternative would be that the Judge Advocate General's Office has stepped in on Ron and his daughter's behalf. Remember, this young man has a life to lead, probably children to raise and probably another base somewhere. They will not want nor need this kind of notoriety coming up over and over again. If this is the case, Michelle will sit rotting in some jail somewhere hopefully till she goes crazy thinking about all of the FFXI games she's missed....which is where she needs to be.(facetiousness attached yes) The military has a way of taking care of its own.
I believe a change of venue is going to be in the works. She wouldn't get an impartial jury anywhere in NC if you ask me. She could have made a deal with the DA, but I doubt it. The comment made by her attorney make me think she still won't admit to anything but hiding the body, supposedly "out of fear". There is no way that is the case. I will continue to check this board and sites for updates. I really hope she gets life in prison, at the very least.
What lead me to believe that some kind of deal was reached or JAG has stepped in, is the comment that Not Important made. " Don't condemn her to death yet". He/she is evidently close to this case, so could be be privy to more information than we know. I would really like to believe that we are not looking at another cold blooded killer....so if her sanity is at stake, or a horrible accident has occurred, then the lawyers statement of not being able to get a fair trial would be substantial. The reasoning published behind his statement is also just as "common". Premeditated murder or murder one implies a deliberate and/or conscious act. The charge was represented due to the fact she concealed the baby. She had means, and opportunity...its her motive that has yet to be determined, at least publicly. That within itself leaves room for Reasonable doubt, and that is what this country is all about. "I'd rather see a 1000 guilty men go free than one innocent man incarcerated."
How strange ~ the docket sheet is back up in Harnett County District Court's records. Next hearing is 11/13/2007:
http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/
...it=Submit+Query
Arraigned Offenses for Case Number: 2007055821 CR
Arraigned Defendant Name: HEUSER,JOHNI,MICHELLE
County: HARNETT
Court Date: 11/13/2007
Session: AM
Court Room: PC02
Offense Code Description Statute
0935 Felony FIRST DEGREE MURDER 14-17
Lilly wrote: "Premeditated murder or murder one implies a deliberate and/or conscious act. The charge was represented due to the fact she concealed the baby."
I beg to differ. Hiding a body isn't in the NC General Statutes definition for Homicide. NC has one of the toughest homicide statutes in the country. A conviction of Murder in the First Degree is only punishable by death or life in prison with no chance of release. They don't require any aggravating circumstances like other states. They just have a definition of the crime, and that definition includes the word "starving."
§ 14‑17. Murder in the first and second degree defined; punishment.
A murder which shall be perpetrated by means of a nuclear, biological, or chemical weapon of mass destruction as defined in G.S. 14‑288.21, poison, lying in wait, imprisonment, starving, torture, or by any other kind of willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing,...
It could be that neglect is the apparant cause of death and the reason for the 1st degree charge. Hiding the body doesn't enhance the charge, it just demonstrates the defendant's credibility. Here is the link to the full statute.
Mike, I have been researching that, and thanks so much for sharing!!!
From what I have read about NC law, I was pretty confident that they would not (possibly could not) have charged Heuser with felony first degree murder without finding some evidence (either by admission or hard evidence) that would prove Harmony's death was not natural in nature. There just has to be something else. They could have charged her with a number of different offenses, and later amended the charge(s) if warranted, but instead, and straight away, charged her with such.
There is something odd that I picked-up in the "911 call", as transcribed, which I am sharing in my next post. The truth has not come out (in my opinion, but the words speak volumes), she is not innocent regarding Harmony's death, and my only hope is that it wasn't by starvation and/or neglect (from all reports thus far, it's not sounding like neglect at least is out the equation ~ I have also wondered what shape the other children were in)!!! If this is the cause, I will be finger pointing at others for being BLIND!
I just don't want to hear that this little angel suffered long before her death!!! Please just pray that is not what we learn . . . just incredulous! No matter what does come out, the actions that we are all aware of are despicable, evil, calculating, scream neglect, malice, and I am still very curious as to why CPS visited Michelle in August (which we may never know).
Oh, bless her little three that are left in a life that they do not understand. How, oh how, could a parent act this way??? Four innocent babies, relying upon mom to take care of them, and mom is too busy doing what makes "Michelle" happy ~ she doesn't only have prison to worry about, but karma at this level??? Then again, do you have a chance of experiencing karma if not in this life if you GO TO HELL???
Note: Purely my prospective ~ no judgment passed.
Mike, my assumption of the reasoning behind the first degree murder charges came from the fact that the sheriff blatantly stated she concealed the babies death, and the truth. I didn't know the statute at the time, thanks. The statement came out within 24-48 hours after the body was found, and the Coroner had not had time to issue a report that quickly, unless her little body was indeed emaciated, but not completely skeletal as has been stated. There is so much we don't know, which is a good thing, because if they have the evidence to convict her, they don't want a mistrial due to some clerical or technical error.
Lilly - "What lead me to believe that some kind of deal was reached or JAG has stepped in, is the comment that Not Important made. " Don't condemn her to death yet". He/she is evidently close to this case, so could be be privy to more information than we know. "
just to let you know, I know next to nothing more than what you can find on the news... I am fairly close, but it seems awful strange to me that whenever I find something out, the media has it the next day or even a few hours later. What I really wanted to accomplish is simply to remind people that there is such a thing as reasonable doubt, which you addressed later on in your post.
All- Don't read too terribly far into my posts as I take great care as to not reveal anything. I read and re-read to make sure I do not say something I shouldn't. Just a precaution I take to prevent miss-information. And besides, I'm working to distance myself from the investigation as much as I can, while still being there to help those I care about
"Reasonable doubt" means there is a "reason" to "doubt" the truthfulness of the charges brought by the authority having jurisdiction.
If there is a reason to doubt the sheriff in this case, I'd like to know what that reason is.
I wanted to thank each and every one for your post concerning my grand daughter. this has been a very hard time for us, as I had stated before, if we allow the sheriff department and FBI to do their job, things will become clear for all in the end. some things shared with us we cannot discuss on here, of any other venue at this time.
Some one had made a statement concerning them not condemning her to death, with talking to the DA and to the Sheriff, we have found that for any capital murder case, there are 5 points that have to be proven, not just that the person was involved, but intent, and several other issues have to be resolved and proven.
The Sheriff and FBI have chosen to charge her with murder 1 because they feel they have the evidence to support that. Ron
Reading back on past post, I was wondering if Jason was one of the three that she was cheating on my son with?
Good question huh
obviously a teen mom? 25 yrs old, oldest child 4, makes her 21 at birth, hardly a teen mom
upon further reading I know who Jason is, thank you for the post Jason
Emerson, the support I spoke of, was if this was to come out, it was an accident, and she did just panic. All this was before I had met with the sheriff, and if you know the press, they look for what they want in an interview, they cut and pasted so they would have the statement that they wanted, if they were not such glory hounds looking for the best story in the sweeps, they would have aired my entire statement. the I support her was stated "If they find this was an accident, and she just panicked...." again, as Jason has said, as I had said, we do not have all the information about what has happened. probably never will. all we can do is hope for justice.
and thank you for noticing that, and not thinking I am a total imbecile Emerson, you had made valid point of wral and their "truth"
This is the first time I have been able to sit, and read through the postings, and respond to any... Ron I
Ron, My heart and prayers go out to you and your family. You are going through things that I can only imagine and your son is so lucky to have you in his corner. I hope that the truth does surface and that at some point your family can find some peace with this.
I apologize if I missed this in the stories or comments, but are there any plans to do a DNA test on the baby to see if the alleged father was really the father?
If he wasn't, that might have been her motive. This woman had three kids by someone else, and was desperate for some way to keep this guy around. She had other men in her life, but he was probably the best prospect for a family. When she got pregnant, she lied and said it was his.
She knew her ruse could get called when he saw the baby. Maybe he had even told her he wanted a test. So she kept things going as long as possible, then came up with this plan to avoid her lie being discovered and to get sympathy from him and bond them together through a tragedy.
ok just reading the post from Ron he says that she was cheating on his son with 3 men with this being the case seems to me like at least 1 if not more of the men she was seeing would have to know something about that baby missing. I still can't believe the Grandmother did not suspect or know something about that baby missing because as a grandmother myself I could never go 1 week without seeing my grandchild. I am sure there is much much more to this story that we may never know but I still believe she must have confessed for them to charge her with murder 1. I would love to believe that baby died of sids but I just don't see that is going to be the case here. My heart goes out to Ron and his family because even if they did a dna test and found out that baby was not his he will always feel like she was because he was led to believe that from this woman. I hope justice is served in this case because that baby deserved so much more than to die and be left ot rot in a attic at the hands of her mother
i stell keep saying that i think the grandma knows something listen to the 911 tape and you will hear dispatch ask her "when was the last time you saw the baby" michelles mom repeats the question to michelle she says" michelle when was the last time you saw her" and michelle responds " about 1130 RIGHT AFTER YOU LEFT"......HUMMMM listen to the tape you will hear it for yourself
In response to Sarah's comment above, when I previously stated, "There is something odd that I picked-up in the 911 call, as transcribed . . .", I was referring exactly to what you did.
However, your suspicion about the grandmother differs greatly from mine. I felt that it would be hard to imagine that Harmony was being starved and/or neglected, both of which I believe would be fairly apparent to anyone, and for the grandmother to ignore that, muchless not intervene or take the children for a period of time, just doesn't make sense.
Then again, when I was working with mothers/fathers within the health and welfare system, I had several occasions to meet the parent's parent (usually mother). I then completely understood "like mother like daughter" or "the apple didn't fall far from the tree", when I saw how filthy, unkept, under/over dressed their poor children were. The grandparent would be sitting there with her off-spring and grandchildren, and would just be angry or arguing that the State was not providing enough . . . and it was never because there wasn't enough for proper clothing, fresh water to bathe the children, etc. Funny thing is that often times these parents have fake nails, Tommy jeans, cell phones, nice jewelry, nice vehicles, etc.
Having said that, then there were the reports by the police officials regarding the awful state of the home, if I recall correctly, one called it a "dump". Just really hard to believe if the house was that bad, that grandma also wouldn't intervene in some way, or that Harmony was starved and/or neglected, that grandma would not have noticed the condition of this little gal and did something about it. I still am only blaming Heuser, as bottom line she was Harmony's mother, and ultimately responsible for loving, respecting, and adequately caring for Harmony. This also includes making sure the environment that she raised her children in was also adequate!
* * * * * * * * * *
Transcribed 911 call: http://www.dunndailyrecord.com/m...SectionID=1&
S=1
"911 Operator
When was the last time someone laid eyes on her?
Grandmother
(to Michelle) When was the last time you laid eyes on her?
Michelle
(sobbing) Last night around 11:30 right after you left...I sat and..."
Holly, I know where you are coming from, she didn't start cheating until he went to Iraq, and yes Holly, I asked for a DNA test, but not to see if she was my son's daughter, but to ensure that the body, was Harmony Jade. If you saw the picture of my son at 7 months old... you would have no question as to who the father of Harmony is....
Ron:
Prayers have been and will continue to be sent in numbers from here, and from around the globe. I, nor most anyone, can imagine what your family is going through, and it breaks our hearts!
Thank you for coming and sharing here, and, most of all, I am so glad your son is home and has his family by his side after learning about this terrible tragedy!!! My heart hurts for you all, as well as her other babies, and I wished there was so much more that could be given to somehow relieve all of you from this nightmare! I know that is impossible, but I so wish.
I hope you all can continue to stay together. LOVE of family, and close friends, is the only healing medicine I know of, and staying as an united front will bring comfort . . . I sincerely hope!
Prayers for justice in the name of your precious granddaughter Harmony, her dutiful father, loving grandparents, aunts, uncles, and friends.
So sorry this happened.
Thank you for your Kind words RockyMtnMom. All we can do is take one day at a time, and hope that the FBI and Sheriff can finish their test on Jades remains and get her home to us soon so we can have some closure in this matter. But of course we do understand that they want to do their best to determine what happened, to which I had personally asked the DA and Sheriff to do.
As to the many conjectures, why have they charged her with murder one prematurely? or why they do not go for the death penalty?
The sheriff knows what he is doing here, he charged murder one, because they have probable cause to do so, it is not the sheriff however that decides the charge, it is the DA, and she seems competent to me.
The DA and the Deputies told me that in the state of North Carolina, must prove several points, I think the deputy said seven, and in this case, they might not be able to prove seven that is required for the death penalty.
My request for the group, let the law do their Job, hopefully the specialist will be able to give us some usable information, but we have to be prepared for the fact that we may never know the truth.
at least not until Michelle decides to tell the truth, and the only way we will know it is the truth is that they use a lie detector, which she has failed in the past, as the sheriff said "she has proven to be a pathological lier."
Ron
Ron,
My heart goes out to you and your family. I can't even imagine what you're going through, especially your son. My little girl is my whole world, and I hurt for you. I hope you all get the answers you need and find peace.
Any new update on this?
I've been wondering for weeks.
I've been especially emotional on this one.
Does anyone know if Heuser has a brother named "Justin" whom also resides in NC?
Everyone is being very tight lipped on this one I have never seen a case that hit the news like this one did and then just seems like after the baby's remains were found everyone quit talkin. If it means making sure the mother gets a fair trial so they don't take a chance of her walking away from killing that poor baby then I am happy they are staying quiet. I just can't see not at least having premilnary autopsy report back normally full report only takes 6 weeks or so usually premilnary only 2 weeks or so but I will be one to keep watching this case and hoping for justice for baby Jade
Maybe it is taking so long because her body was so decomposed when it was found. I don't know much about performing autopsies, but I am guessing that it takes longer to determine the cause of death from skeletal remains.
I have been watching this case since it started, too. This one really stuck with me.
We appreciate the thoughts and concerns. yes there has been a prelim report, but more test are being done. As it is, we have been advised by the sheriff's office not to discuss the case with anyone. We still do not have the body back for burial, not sure when we will, but by the time we get the body back, I am sure that the officals will release some statement as to the cause of death, if they have it figured out. To compound the problems, the sister to my wife died the following friday from when my son came home to find the baby missing, and now my uncle has died on tuesday, buried yesterday. This has been a truely tragic time for our family, and we do appreciate the thoughts and prayers of everyone. Ron
Ron just know we are praying for your family. I hope I did not offend you by stating that a prelim report should be back I understand you not being able to discuss the case and I would not expect you too. I will continue to follow the case and Pray for justice and healing for your family.
Ron,
Please forgive me, I really didn't mean to be rude. My english skills are a bit limited, i can't find appropriate word to express my deep sorrow for your granddaughter.
This whole story has touched me very deeply. Being a mother myself, it is totally impossible to understand what leads to such actions toward a little baby that we brought to life. Our own blood and flesh...
I am looking, i guess, for some answers to make some sense where i can't see any.
I have 5 kids myself. And if one would die tomorrow, my whole world would just shatter.
Not having been thru such pain and loss, I can't fully understand your hurt and sorrow. I can only try to imagine. But i can assure you that your family is in my prayers every day. There hasn't been a sigle day since i've read about Jade's story that i haven't thought of your son, your granddaughter, friends and family that must feel deep loss.
Kind regards,
Marie
Again thankyou for your kind words, and neither have offended, mom2ofour you had questions, and you asked them, and as honestly as I could I answered them since no one else could. Again I appreciate the thoughts and prayers. Hopefully soon, they will have all the answeres they need, allowing us to get my grand baby back so we can hold a funeral, and so that the truth can come out to the people, and help to releive the stress of not knowing of those that are following this so closely. Some times we as a family, and those of the nation forget, that in such a high profile case as this, many more than the family is affected by what has happen.
Ron
Our family will be praying for you and yours. I can't not imagine the lose and pain you guys have. I have a baby girl the same age. I just could not imagine.
____________________________________
As the wife of an Airman I do know this. She had to be under a lot of stress just with her husband being deployed. A new baby and then 4 others. My question is. How did none of the family not know before then. We live states away from either of our familys and there is not a day that goes by that someone does not call or ask for a new picture of the kids.
Airmans Wife and Mother of 2
In response to the post above I understand stress also but no way can a person ever get under that kind of stress where they could kill their baby and put it in a attic and live with that smell for weeks like she did. I also question how her family did not miss that baby and ask questions. I understand Ron's family live in a different state but hers lived right there near her from what I understand and I think they better make certain her family was not part of the cover up. I don't think she was married to the father of this baby from what I have read and I think he had only saw the baby one time when he was home on a short leave. The media is being real quiet on this one and I am anxious myself to know more of the story but looks like we are going to have to wait on this one until we know more. I just hope they find a cause of death and she will be held responsible for her actions. In my opinion I smell a insantity defense for sure on this case and I hope she don't get away with it I do not think a true crazy person could have thought this up like she did but thats my opinion
To Ron,
I am so sorry about everything you are going through. I know it is terribly hard on you and your family. I am sure you loved your granddaughter very much and will miss her. How old was she when you last saw her? How did she look to you? I have a grandson out of state and it is very difficult to be so far away from him but when I do go visit, about every other month, I bring back pictures of him with me and have a little album I keep them in. I can feel like I am watching him grow. I hope you got some pictures of little Harmony Jade to keep her image close to your mind. That will comfort you the most.
NO NO NO I was not saying it was ok or anything like that. No one should ever hurt there child for any reason. If she was stressed she should have takin a day away from the kids. She should not have had so many kids so close together, if she could not take it.
I should have 2nd read what I typed. I does sound like that but that is not what i meant.
It does sound pre thougth out to me. And crazy ppl dont pre think things and care them out. My mother was murdered a few years back and it was premeditaed and they did not let insantity defense in. Maybe that will be the case here also. But laws change from state to state. It is so hard for our family to keep uop with this. Without crying bc there lil girl look so much like ours. It breaks my heart everytime I think about it. She was just a baby. Parents are supose to take care of there babys not kill them.
To Grandmaof4
I had never had the oppertunity to see my granddaughter. My son was going to bring her to see me, and spend her 1st birthday with us.
As for the media being quiet on this, they have been ordered by the Sheriff's department to leave the family alone, for which they have no sources for new matterials, so it is a mute point for them.
Proud Airforce wife, as for the family not seeing what had happened, she had quit talking to all of us back in August, her step dad was off in school, leaving only her mom to see what was happening, but go listen to the 911 call, extrapalate your own conclusions from that.
Ron
I heard the 911 call and that is why I ask why no one in the family (her mother) did not know about it before hand. I do realize that his side of the family lived away from the baby. But hers did not. It sounds like there are more ppl in it them just the mom to me. I realize you can said anything. It is most likly best until they get all the info they need.
Ron:
Just read your last post, and wanted to let you know, again, how sorry I am that this has happened!
Although there are so many on the outside waiting for any news or answers to obvious questions, trying to make any sense of this horrible tragedy, I am also glad that you all have been afforded some privacy! Honestly, I cannot begin to put myself in your shoes, muchless have to deal with strangers asking questions in a situation such as this!!!
I check here every day for any updates, please know many do, and it is because we do care what happened! I, and those around me, continue to keep your family in our daily prayers . . . wish there was more any of us could do!
Also wanted to let you know that her other babies have been equally on my mind, and I hope and pray that they are in a good place . . . they did not deserve any of this either, and I just hope they are receiving all the love, attention, and care any child deserves.
Best wishes to you, your son, and the rest of the family. I know in my heart that this little one is once again happy, healthy, safe for all eternity, and is around you all! Ron, I do believe you all will be with her, I'm very sad to know that you never in this life had that opportunity, and I hope you believe the same ! But, again, I honestly believe she is right there in spirit, and she feels all the love.
I just took in the fact that there hasn't been a funeral for Harmony Jade yet! *sad* I'm so sorry, I wish it were different. I think of all those who loved little Harmony, and pray. I also think of the step-mother in this, (the second wife of Harmony's paternal grandfather is who I mean)and pray for her also. It must be very hard to deal with two events like that. Prayers sent.
I just found a new court date listed for the mother. I still haven't seen anything from Tuesdays court appearance but a new court date has been listed on the website
Arraigned Offenses for Case Number: 2007055821 CR
Arraigned Defendant Name: HEUSER,JOHNI,MICHELLE
County: HARNETT
Court Date: 01/29/2008
Session: AM
Court Room: PC02
Offense Code Description Statute
0935 Felony FIRST DEGREE MURDER 14-17
http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/
Havn't had the time to check in a while, Momefour, thank you for the post, we had not heard about the court date.
It appears that within 2 weeks we will be having the opportunity to have a funeral... again, thank you all for your concerns. Ron
mom2four, thankyou for the post, I had not been on in a while, and we had not heard anything from NC about a court date.
We did find out that we would possibly be getting jade back within 2 weeks, and then will have her funeral.
Again thank you to all of you for your concerns. Ron
I am truely sickened by reading some of the posts of the "grandparents". I am sure this is a horrible time for all of them. I felt so sorry for them until I read that they have never even layed eyes on that child!! How can you have a grandchild that you have never seen and berate the family members of the mother. This is a horrible situation, but I think "Ron" is really enjoying all the sympathy and attention he is getting on this. Sad, very, very, sad indeed!!
i could have simply stayed out of it Lealah, I have said nothing out of the way, simply relaying to those such as mom2four whom wanted to know what was happening, but you come in here making a personal attack upon me? who the hell do you think you are? I think you are the one that sickens those with good hearts out there that really do care about what is happening in their world. you want to question about how I not seeing my grandchild can berret her mother? I never berretted her mother, I simply told others to judge for them selves, as for me not seeing my grandchild, have you seen the gas prices lately lady? not a simple jump in the car and go a 12 hr drive if you are not rich any more, especially for a week end trip, and that was what it would have been. As for the summer, I had major surgery while I was off work for the summer, and was laid up most of the summer. My grandbaby, my son was going to bring her to see me when he came home from Iraq. But of course, I ghess you have all the answers and do not want to know the facts before you start accusing do you Lealah?
Ron you have every right to post here and I am happy that you have tried to shed as much light as you could on this horrible case. Some people can be so cruel but thats just what this world has come to these days and it sickens me. I am sure there is a heck of alot to this story we do not know yet but the truth will hopefully come out at trial and everyone will see what happened to that precious baby. I am glad that you can finally get baby Jade's remains back within the next 2 weeks and give her a proper burial because that can hopefully give your family some peace and your family can try to recover from this horrible crime. I say a prayer for your family everyday and I will continue to keep up with this case and pray justice is served and that Baby Jade did not die in vain. Thank you Ron for letting us know how your family is holding up and I agree you never judged the mothers family in this case you told us all to listen to the 911 call and judge for ourselves. I think the mother's family was involved but that is my opinion and I am entitled to my opinion.
To KatK:
Thank you for your kind words directed to me. Ever since some stated that they thought I was "clueless", or "taking advantage", or had other negative motives, I have purposely backed away from any boards. You are right in that going through 2 deaths of loved ones, a week apart, was very difficult, & posting to boards was MY way of staying connected while my husband was away, & at the same time, knowing my 49-yr-old sister was also dying. To all here, again I apologize for anything I ever said that came across wrong. I am so thankful to be a part of the Creech family, & agree with Ron (I) that it will be good to finally have at least some sort of closure soon. Blessings to all... Mrs. Ron Creech I
Has the cause of death been determined in this case yet? It has been racking my heart and mind for months now. Needless to say I have not blogged on here yet and would like to send my prayers and repects to the family of this beauitiful little girl. I drive by that house everyday, and all I can think about is her and her father. How can something like this happen? How could a mother do this to their own? I hope someone has some info, I hope someone still checks this thing. I would really like to know the outcome.
CH
AD- I have also been trying to keep upadated on this case. They are keeping it very tight lipped. I know she appears in court again next week, but that's all I've been able to find out. Please post if you learn anything.
I have been hearing about the missing marine that has been found murdered by a fellow marine that she had accused of rape. Is this military base not somewhere around the same area that michelle killed her baby? I know both of them are in NC but are they not close together? I am going to try to find out more information but it looks like this may be very close to the same area
The Marine case is in Camp Lejeune, N.C. Michelle's caseis in Spring Lake N.C right next to Ft. Bragg. they are about 2 hours away from eachother. They have kept things pretty tight around here about the case. I actually live right around the corner from where it all happened, that is why I am so suprised that I have not yet heard any thing else on it. I drive by that house everyday and say a preyer for that little girl, her father and the three other childern. It would be nice if those of us in the community could have some closure on this, better yet the family. I'm sure they know something but who knows how much.
So far the officials in charge have not given anything more than that which we had already surmised, hoever we are still awaiting Harmony Jade's return so we can have a funeral, but now her lawyer are trying shenanigans that might mean even longer before we get our baby back to bury her. Ron
I found this article in the dunn daily paper not sure how to do a link on her but I copied and pasted the website hope it works
http://www.mydailyrecord.com/mai...3714&
TM=82863.1
I am still upset that "money" would be an excuse not to visit your children or grandchildren. I know if my son was over in a war zone, and I was not certain if he would return, I would do all I could to help with my grandchildren. I don't care if I had to hock my "wedding ring". the one your wife was so tickled to see you wearing on TV.(What a fruitloop!!) I have a friend that live in England, and she has a grandchild here in the US that is only 9 months old and she has been here several times. She is by no mean rich either. She loves her grandchild. I guess you know for a fact that the child was murdered? We live in the US and we are innocent until proven guilty. Remember that!!
"But of course, I ghess you have all the answers and do not want to know the facts before you start accusing do you Lealah?"
Look familiar, grandmaof4? This is the comment that was made by Grandfather of the year.
I have read most of the comments on this site. I have also read up on Johni Heuser and Jade. Ron, I think you are having guilt issuses. You knew her mom and stepdad were out of town from Aug to Oct. Why did you not have some of the wives of the guys in your unit check on your daughter? Did you have your name on her birth certificate, or have her on your medical insurance? I believe you also have a son...bet he is on your insurance. Could it be that Jade died of crib death? That would make any mother go insane, especially if she had other children to protect...think about it.
just found this
http://www.mydailyrecord.com/mai...952&
TM=57457.75
momto4: Thanks so much for the link! I still cannot believe it has taken this long for anyone to complete an examination and receive results! However, I am hopeful that maybe the new private team can possibly determine the cause of death.
**********
In my opinion, it does not really even matter. Ms. Heuser's actions speak volumes! Knowing Jade's father was returning to the States, and the crazy shit she put everyone through claiming a kidnaping are deplorable and heartbreaking! If anything, she proved herself unfit as a MOTHER, and if your baby died of crib death, why in the hell would you not dispatch professional help ... 911? No, she tried to cover it up, and what "innocent" mother would wrap her deceased child up, stuff her in a box, and hide her precious little body in an attic? In my opinion, I'm not buying it was crib death or anything else "natural"...actions speak volumes, and this mother's actions were criminal, not even knowing the cause of death! She carried on with her normal life, and authorities found a baby that had passed weeks before. Natural or not, she needs to pay for her actions, and nothing will ever begin to ease what Jade's father came home to!
To those picking on Grandfather Ron: Do not judge, as he has been through a lot, not to include dealing with a son that was fighting the fight for all of US (that would almost put me in my grave in and of itself). I know of many grandparents that do not have relationships with their grandchildren when fostered by an ex/girlfriend., muchless being long-distance. Also, ever view a bankruptcy of a person that lives on a fixed income (I understand people that cannot afford to travel)? Gas in a vehicle could cause no electricity, warm water, telephone service, and not making a house payment. I do not hear any of you speaking ill of Ms. Heuser's mother, or other relatives! Why should the Grandparents be held accountable period, unless they knew of the living conditions, such as Ms. Heuser's Mother? You cannot point fingers at a grandparent unless they share or have custody...Jade had a mom, who was supposed to put HER first, and I believe that most assumed she was filling that role. What can you do when you are unaware, either because of proximity, or if not afforded reasonable visitation but can live across the street?
It was MOM's responsibility to care for her own! I have not read that she was disabled in any way, other than addicted to her dear video gamming, friends, etc. SAD for lack of better words!
Has anyone heard any news on this case?
Sorry to have been so long responding back, but things have been very hectic. to respond to something I read, non guilt issues here friendofall, as for us knowing her parents would be out of the way for aug to oct, her parents were not, only her step dad was in oklahoma in school to learn how to drive a truck. Her mom, that was the issue, why was her mom not more invoved in her grand childrens lives, being that she was only 2 miles away. Why didn't we visit, 5 hr trip.. and physically up till that time, I was not physically able to travel, I had a kidney removed. Devoted mom, good question.... the last we heard she was sent to Canada by the defense for more test, as is being in dallas for 4 months wasn't enough, and we still have not gotten our baby back for burial... why don't the people in that area beseach the courts to end this travisty to our child.
Thank you for all of you thoughts and prayers.... Pappa Ron
This really makes me sick, especially because I live less than 10 miles away in Fayetteville. I wanted to believe that she had just been kidnapped and was ok. This woman has other children, and I'm sure they all have different fathers. It seems to me that she's just having kids, but there's no real love there for them. The father is a G.I. There are so many cases of child abuse and deaths, I hope that it stops! Something needs to be done, and her other kids should be taken away at the very least.
I know this comment was made a long time ago, but I just want to set the record straight. Her other three children do have the same father. They are from a previous marriage. Also, if you aren't aware, two of them are twins.... so hopefully that shines a better light on the small age gap. It is funny how quickly people assume things and pass judgements on people. Ultimately the only judgement that matters is that of the lord. I hope that answers come soon and closure will help the people involved start healing.
well it is not really much on the case but it did finally mention this womans name again appears they have a new DA hopefully he will get the ball rollin soon
http://www.mydailyrecord.com/mai...386&
TM=39478.27
District Attorney Susan Doyle has assigned a new assistant district attorney to head up cases in Harnett County court.
Former Sampson County prosecutor Davis Weddle has stepped into the job once held by Assistant District Attorney Charlene Franks. He began his tenure last week.
Ms. Franks has been reassigned to the Johnston County office.
Mrs. Doyle said she thinks Mr. Weddle will be an asset to the Harnett County court system.
"(Mr. Weddle) has been running the Sampson County office for several years and has a lot of experience," Mrs. Doyle said. "We are really excited and everybody over there in the office is excited about his arrival as well.
"I think that he will excel in that leadership role because of his experience, as well as his easygoing demeanor," she said.
As for Ms. Franks' reassignment, Mrs. Doyle said it was a matter of practicality.
"Charlene's moving back to Johnston County and her kids are going back to Johnston County schools, so it was just easier geographically to move her to this office," she said.
Mr. Weddle said he is excited about his new position. He said he has spent the last few days getting settled into his offices and beginning the arduous process of going over cases he will take over for Ms. Franks.
"One of my goals in the next two years is to get some of these murder cases disposed of," Mr. Weddle said. "I can't say if there will be any procedural changes or anything ... it's still early."
High-Profile Cases
There are currently several high-profile murder cases awaiting trial in Harnett County, including the trial of Antonio Byrd for the alleged murder of his girlfriend's daughter, 2-year-old Miracle McLean and the trial of Johni Michelle Heuser, accused of killing her infant daughter Harmony Jade Creech and stuffing her body in the attic of their home.
Mr. Weddle, 37, originally from Wilmington, is a 1993 graduate of Woffard College in Spartanburg, S.C., with a degree in English.
He earned his law degree from Touro Law School in Huntington, N.Y., in 1997, moving directly to the District Attorney's Office in Sampson County soon after passing the bar.
Mrs. Doyle said she doesn't think it will take long for Mr. Weddle to get the ball rolling at his new post.
"Certainly I respect the situation that he's coming into, where he's coming in and picking up cases that are brand new to him," Mrs. Doyle said. "He's got to have time to get up to speed.
Meanwhile, Mr. Weddle said he looks forward to working with folks at the Harnett County Courthouse.
"I think everybody who works here (in the D.A.'s office), the ADAs, support staff are all fantastic, very professional," he said. "I hope we'll be an office that will run well and people will see us as a hard working office, but fair.
"I'm not here to give defense attorneys a hard time just to give them a hard time," he said. "They have a job to do and we have a job to do and I think we'll work good together.
"All the attorneys I've met so far have been very friendly and patient, and I appreciate that," he said.
Commenting by HaloScan
