Coul you at least stop putting satire in quotes...ex. "satire"...it just makes it that much worse...
you're so hilarious! this is a satire site as well, right? don't worry, i'll keep it on the down low.
I just wanted to be among the first. Man, you're good. Do they pay you? If so, how much? How long HAVE you been in the comedy business? Your stuff is GOLD! I think your stuff is way funnier than the dreck they spew on Comedy Central or FOX News! Keep it up! Oh, and by the way, do you take your show on the road? If so, what are the dates and locations? Who's your agent?
Really - you need to drop this. You're doing yourself no favors. You're soon going to alienate eveyone who actually agrees with you and just make the whole 'pro-life' movement look worse than it already does.
Hmmm....
Never mind.
I'm going to try this a simple, polite way for you.
There is no Caroline Weber.
The article, written by writers at the Onion, was a satire. The woman does not exist. The person who wrote it doesn't agree with the opnions expressed.
The point of the piece was that, contrary to the position of some pro-life people (you included, apparently), it is ridiculous to think that anybody likes abortion or wants women to have an abortions. That's why it's a satire.
People who support abortion rights are not, as you describe them, pro-abortion. They are pro-choice. They want women to be able to make that decision for themselves. You disagree. But do not mischaracterize their stance.
It makes you look kind of stupid.
Larry - kind of?
yay!!! the babbling continues! you tell 'em, petey!
=ck
So this is your strategy? You're going to comb through the thousand or so comments your Onion-related posts generated and highlight the ones that contain profanity? Not a good approach, in my opinion. Swallow your pride and admit that you were a bit gullible. Have a laugh at yourself, and move on. As long as you keep trying to position yourself as the intellectual superior of your detractors, you're going to look silly and invite more mockery. You're just providing comic fodder for the anti-life movement.
ROTFLMAO!
what else is there to say.
oh shit, I just laughed my small intestines out!
Sir,
Before you start condeming the public school system and other people's level of education, I would suggest that you seriously review your own grammar.
(this is a repost from the last posting, but i caught that one sooooo late i had to repost it here to increase the odds that you might actually get to it and also since it's just as relevant for this article as for the last. enjoy.)
if you had any friends, they would tell you to remove these posts.
however, since reading your two most recent blogs have given me a really, really, really (insert more reallys) good laugh i think you should leave them up and keep on sharing your thoughts.
but i'm not your friend.
=ck
Pete, you haven't had a date in a while, have you? Just a guess.
Well, you're the one acting like a kindergarten child.
You prove everything I've ever thought about fundamentalists - removed from reality - where the rest of us know that both the Onion and all of it's "authors" are fictional.
Please,go to a dark corner somewhere and wait for the rapture. Just leave the rest of us (the reality-based majority) alone.
You're soon going to alienate eveyone who actually agrees with you and just make the whole 'pro-life' movement look worse than it already does.
I didn't think it was possible to make fundamentalist wackos look any more stupid or delusional, but this blog takes the cake!
Seriously, dude. You need help - you are fixated on abortion, and you don't even have a uterus.
Wow man, I can't believe you aren't hiding under your bed with a paper bag over your face. Do you know that hundreds of thousands of people have probably heard about this by now? That you even have your own Wikipedia article!
Just give it in. Delete the other two entries, make a post saying how stupid you were, then resign from life. Really. Go live with some birds in the Outer Hebrides or something. You aren't ever gonna be taken seriously on these internets again.
I for one applaud your effort at trying to draw attention to how horrible these pro-choicers are! I mean seriously, to have parties afterwards! Inconcievable!
Well, don't let these lame commenters get you down. At least we did win something recently, even if it is in China. Expecting mothers are FINALLY given at least a 15 minute break to have their child.
http://www.theonion.com/content/...tent/node/
48743
I am genuinely sorry that you have run into so many people who are unable to express their disagreement with your positions without personally attacking you.
The Onion is a humor magazine. This piece is funny specifically because it is so completely ridiculous that anybody would ever be psyched to have an abortion. Unfortunately, in your mind you have so thoroughly demonized your opponents at this point that you actually believe that pro-choice Americans are excited about getting an abortion.
I admire your willingness to fight for your cause, but please understand that many Americans simply disagree with you that life begins at conception. For me, the fact that an estimated 80% of fertilized eggs do not survive the term of the pregnancy (50% of them don't even manage to attach to the uterine wall and die within a week of fertilization) makes me wonder: what God would design a system where 80% of his People are never born?
Wow. What a "Christian".
Passing judgement on others.
You are obsessive. Get help. Really.
You made a huge error and refused to own up to it.
Therefore you must be a leftist pinko who doesn't believe in personal responsibility.
Seriously, though, you are the stupidest person on the internet.
Screw the Onion - this site is quickly becoming the #1 humor source on the net!
Sir,
I am one of these "brainwashed" children of which you speak. Rather than spout a "string of filth", I'll let Mr. Swift himself address you in my place.
"Satire is a glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own."
Pete, the "satire" (as you put it) was actually a satire (sans quotation marks). The reason you seem to be having trouble grasping this fact is because the piece is making fun of individuals such as yourself.
I disagree with everything for which you stand, but I beg of you out of concern for another human being: please please PLEASE stop posting. Anything. You're receiving regular traffic from swarms of liberals, conservatives, and everything in-between who view you as a fool.
You are harming your own cause.
Cheers!
Sir,
I am one of these "brainwashed" children of which you speak. Rather than spout a "string of filth", I'll let Mr. Swift himself address you in my place.
"Satire is a glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own."
Pete, the "satire" (as you put it) was actually a satire (sans quotation marks). The reason you seem to be having trouble grasping this fact is because the piece is making fun of individuals such as yourself.
I disagree with everything for which you stand, but I beg of you out of concern for another human being: please please PLEASE stop posting. Anything. You're receiving regular traffic from swarms of liberals, conservatives, and everything in-between who view you as a fool.
You are harming your own cause.
Cheers!
For me, the fact that an estimated 80% of fertilized eggs do not survive the term of the pregnancy (50% of them don't even manage to attach to the uterine wall and die within a week of fertilization) makes me wonder: what God would design a system where 80% of his People are never born?
Because it bears repeating!
(Pete puts fingers in his ears and goes :"LALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU".)
>what color is "stunned"?
Evidently, whatever education you had did not include the concepts of metaphor, idiom, etc. Kindly familiarize yourself with these (as well as satire, of course), before making any further posts on this subject.
Either that, or stop being a disingenuous asshat.
If this is a joke (and at this point I'm really, really hoping it is), then you are a genius. Way to COMMIT, man; you should consider trying to get onto the Onion staff!
If this isn't a joke, then...
I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that hubris was the way to go here but when people on your side of the debate are expressing embarrassment over being associated with you, it's time to consider a change in strategy.
Just say, "Oops; that'll teach me to check my sources, ha-ha", then drop the subject and move on.
Dude, look up. If you see a little circle of sky surrounded by darkness, that probably means you're in a hole, and you might want to stop digging. Just a suggestion.
Jesus was a long-haired, swarthy middle-easterner hippie.
And even He thinks you blog is ridiculous.
I truly believe that The Reverand Fred Phelps, his wild-eyed CroneWife and yourself are at the vanguard of American Comedy. This has got to be some kind of Andy Kaufman-esque put= on. It's just got to.
'Color Me Stunned' really threw you for a loop, eh? How about this one:
'Life is like a box of chocklits...ya never know which one you're gonna git."
Pretty deep, yes?
damn man.........you're stupid. That all. Just mindnumbingly dumb. Couldnt figure out the Onion was satire. couldnt figure out that the woman (if she exists) was being sarcastic with you. Cant use a dictionary either. and cant admit you were wrong.
lemme guess you voted for Bush because he reminds you of yourself ?
You know that picture of the little boy to the right of your page? The one staring up at us with big pleading eyes? He's thinking about hitting you in the nuts for being so stupid. He told me. 
at least we have loads of time to create mirrors of his spectacular stupidity and false pride before it finally all sinks in and he deletes them! because seriously, these "blogs" as he calls them need to be preserved for all interwebternity.
Look, by the way that bitch was bitching, her kid probably would have voted democrat anyway.
I wonder why these rteligious nuts are so gung-ho to save babies, but never complain about suicide, or murder by gun, other "choices" that humans make which end human lives.
It's probably just because babies are cute, hunh? I mean, an aborted baby hasn't even been absolved of original sin - according to the bible, that makes them less worthy in God's eyes than a hooker who just got out of confession!
Your posts are riddled with logical fallacies that completely invalidate your arguments.
Your anti-intellectual posts speak volumes as to why your are so confounded by metaphor, satire, and logic.
Perhaps being college educated is not such a bad thing, no?
Brian24 Wrote:
"The Onion is a humor magazine. This piece is funny specifically because it is so completely ridiculous that anybody would ever be psyched to have an abortion. Unfortunately, in your mind you have so thoroughly demonized your opponents at this point that you actually believe that pro-choice Americans are excited about getting an abortion."
And what YOU have (apparently seriously and unwittingly) done is written the 100% polar opposite of that Onion satire column. The masses are reading this and having the exact same thought you did: That NO ONE is so extreme as to publish such an opinion, so it must be satire or they must have some other mental issues.
Yet you did. And (apparently) you were serious. And you keep doing it. And the hole gets deeper (as all of your comrades-in-arms keep telling you in these comments).
The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system.
That's just a good as anything else you've written, Pete. You're a gem.
You keep up the good work, my brutha. You just keep on keepin' on. You know what I'm sayin'?
lol
I'll say it again, and again without any of those nasty "cuss words":
Dumbest.
Blogger.
EVER.
Due --sarcasm is witty language used to convey insults or scorn
satire is when "the literal meaning is different from the true meaning".
guess you need to be educated to use a dictionary huh ?
(i've been having some trouble posting, hopefully this does not show up twice, sorry if it does.)
Lets just consider this little episode as the Internets contribution to Pete's education. Clearly this is a case where the system has failed the lad.
Lesson 1. about not surrounding words in quotes where none are needed was covered in the first comment, so I'll jump to Lession 2.
Ok, Peter, buddy...Lession 2.
Look, you don't really want to try and associate reading the Onion with rude and nasty behavior. The Onion is one of the funniest papers around and it is read all over the country. Generally speaking it gives me a chuckle, it makes them laugh, it is... fun. I am being sympathetic to you, go read the Onion sometime, I mean for laughs, you know? Enjoy yourself a little. It's good stuff man. It has nothing to do with nastiness or rudeness. You need to read it, cause talking the way you are about really doesn't make any sense.
Lession 3.
The: ... in punctuation is called an ellipse. An ellipse is generally used to indicate an intention omission. For example: "I was reading this unbelievable website today...". It can be like saying "bla bla bla" or "yada yada yada". It can also be used as an intentional pause. The commentor you quote uses it to create a time delay in his final thought. We don't really have good temporal represenation in text, so the placement of the ellipse in "Color me stunned ... douchebag" is used to indicate a second of time, as if the person were really speaking to you. Another way of saying this would be "Color me stunned -beat- doughbag". So no he's not signing as doughbag, he is remarking to himself that you are a doughbag. Not that I agree. The pause coupled with the pajorative use of doughbag here is a way of communicating what he is saying to himself.
The definition on wikipedia is also pretty amusing for our discussion here: "Ellipses in linguistics refers to any omitted part of speech that is understood." This is called Irony.
Lession 4.
"what color is 'stunned'"
Sigh... ok Pete... we're doing a lot of talking about children so you should know this reference. The writer is refering to a famous childrens book about emotions: Color Me Happy
You can get a copy here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/produ...2337211-
2703634
It's really delightful. The book associates colors with different emotions to teach what the words mean:
"When I am sunny, colour me yellow. When I am funny, colour me pink."
So the commentor is making a funny reference to this book. As for my own personal opinion about what color stunned might see: http://www.onwijs.com/remcodek/s...s/
hypnodisk.jpg
So I hope this has been helpful. I think I speak for all when I say we are really enjoying your posts. Maybe not as intended, but that's ok.
I'm trying to be polite here, so bear with me.
First off, cut the quotes. The Onion is satire, not "satire". It's not real. The fact that college-educated people don't believe it is not a strike against higher education... because in this case, they are right.
I admit, the anonymous face of the internet makes it very easy for people to heap abuse and cursewords on others. Most of us manage to rise above this, regardless of our viewpoints on abortion. There. You've now met a courteous pro-choicer.
Which brings me to my last point. Stop calling us pro-abortion. We're not. It's even less valid than us refering to you guys as "anti-choice". Absolutely nobody is pro-abortion. I would be exceedingly happy if, starting tomorrow, there were no more abortions, ever, anywhere in the world. Unfortunately, I'm a realist. Outlawing abortion will not end abortion. It will just result in illegal, back-alley abortions. I'm sure that anyone who calls themself "pro-life" and actually means it won't be cheering as women bleed to death from botched coat-hanger surgeries- but that's exactly what will be happening if abortion is outlawed.
Abortion is simply a symptom of greater social problems. You can't treat a disease by just treating the symptoms- the disease will just get worse if you do. Do you really want to end abortion? Really? Then here's what you need to do:
- Eradicate poverty. The group with the highest incidence of abortion is the poor.
- Sponsor psychological counseling for teenagers- studies have revealed that depressed teens are more likely to engage in sexual behavior.
- Establish health care and social programs for everyone. People won't be as likely to seek an abortion if they know they won't go bankrupt raising a child.
- Sponsor real, effective sex education. There is strong evidence abstinence-only sex-ed doesn't work.
Of course these steps won't eliminate abortion completely, but they will significantly reduce it, and that's better than both mother and child dying in some back alley.
We will end abortion through our unity and the Monthly Call for Life
No, but if you ever do outlaw abortion, it'll be through packing the courts with nuts like Alito.
Notice I didn't say "end abortion". You'll never end it - only make it more dangerous for the people who feel they must have one.
Why don't you do something substantive about unwanted pregnancy and hand out a few rubbers?
Correction, sorry I was typing fast, that is "douchebag" not "doughbag".
My bad.
I love how you seem to be genetically incapable of getting a clue.
"The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system. "
Uhhh, you do realize that it's possible to attend private school your whole life and still attend a university.
Well, you probably don't understand, never mind...
It's fascinating to watch "enlightened" liberals JUMP to beat down someone who made a mistake. Nice attitudes and nice language. The fact that some have posted multiple times is even more telling.
You ruined all of your cedibility as a, heh, blogger with your (now famous) Onion post.
I can't say "writer".
You should start over. You're totally fucked. The kind of fucked that doesn't feel good, either.
Oooh, I like saying FUCKED. My filthy fingers love typing it all over your silly silly blog.
Your posts are a bit like babies. Unless you delete them, they stick around and fuck your life up forever.
Time to abort the mission, Pete. No pun intended.
-babykiller shasta, killin' babies since 1996
(can you see the satire?)
sometimes when the world is grey and I just want to end it all, a little ray of sunshine opens up and makes me choose life. Today is that day, only so that I can read more of your posts. Please keep it up! Otherwise I might self abort. In fact, I can feel Jesus in my heart commanding you to blog every day from here to eternity for me to have every opportunity to get saved. In this virtual village, you are my electronic idiot and I couldn't live without you.
Thanks!
Here's another post by the same genius. 
Ok....lets make it a little easier for him:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=...define%
3Asatire
Perhaps I'm asking too much....
Its fascinating to watch "righteous " conservatives use a fake magazine to demonize the pro choice movement.
Its even more fascinating that they refuse to admit that they were wrong and moronic .
Nice attitude.
i hope you're a vegetarian/vegan with all the 'pro-life' preaching you're doing. with the amount of animals being killed in obscene slaughterhouses, you are just as 'bad' and have no right preaching pro-life if you support the mass slaughter of animals.
anyway, let me know, i'm interested.
"I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system."
Uhhh...what does college have to do with the public school system there buddy? And you didn't answer my questions, which contained no profanity and no personal attacks.
Thanks for the Google link. I'm personally fond of this definition:
Satire. A manner of writing that mixes a critical attitude with wit and humor in an effort to improve mankind and human institutions. Ridicule, irony, exaggeration, and several other techniques are almost always present. The satirist may insert serious statements of value or desired behavior, but most often he relies on an implicit moral code, understood by his audience and paid lip service by them. The satirist's goal is to point out the hypocrisy of his target in the hope that either the target or the audience will return to a real following of the code. Thus, satire is inescapably moral even when no explicit values are promoted in the work, for the satirist works within the framework of a widely spread value system. Many of the techniques of satire are devices of comparison, to show the similarity or contrast between two things. A list of incongruous items, an oxymoron, metaphors, and so forth are examples. See "The Purpose and Method of Satire" for more information.
At least you spelled ejumacted right.
Go Petey Go!
The "public school" / "college educated" thing has me confused too. I assume that it's some kind of swipe at the public school system, but the exact argument is not clear to me. By the way, I have a college degree, and I attended private schools throughout my entire life. I know plenty of intelligent college-educated people who attended public school, however, and a fair number of them are pro-life. Bottom line: condemning huge numbers of people as "brainwashed" because of the type of school their parents chose for them as children is not going to win you any friends. Please, quit before you get yourself in more trouble.
It's fascinating to watch "enlightened" liberals JUMP to beat down someone who made a mistake. Nice attitudes and nice language. The fact that some have posted multiple times is even more telling.
Yes, it's all the fault of us foul-mouthed liberals. Us and our dirty words, with multiple postings.
It's not like we started a war based on a wish and a prayer, or recruited some skinheads who raped and killed a 14-year old Iraqi woman.
It's not like we practice discrimination based on what a voice from a cloud tells us.
It's not like we know our marriages will suddenly and mysteriously fail if we let gay people have equal rights.
It must because we don't go to the same once-weekly hourlong club, hunh?
Wow, after trying to sift through the 600 or so comments on your original, misguided (though obviously heartfelt) post on the Onion article, I started to feel sorry for you. Sympathy didn't last long though, after reading your most recents post on the "satire" of the Onion article and what your idea of "crazy" is.
"Crazy", in my eyes, is any person (especially any man) who thinks they can tell me what I can and cannot do to my own body. And before you start foaming at the mouth, please remember that it's pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I chose to have my baby when everyone around me was pressuring me to have an abortion. You see, choice goes both ways and if you want to see another side of "crazy", just you try to impose your morals on my body.
Shit, I spelled it wrong. And I went to a public school.
He may be right.
I bet Pete LOOOOOVED this article even more:
http://www.theonion.com/content/...tent/node/
48199
"It's also funny to me how pro-aborts claim such brilliance, yet struggle to say a sentence or two without cuss words."
It's because you're so fucking retarded.
Have you ever stopped to wonder yet Pete, just what it is about that "satirical article" that everyone else but you gets?
Spare yourelf the effort buddy b/c you won't and you never will, (why is it people like you are always the ones trying to tell everyone else around you what to do, when it's obvious yoy yourself don't have clue?
Well anyway, good luck blogging you're off to a BRILLIANT "start!"
PS I think the only people around here who are brainwashed are people like you. Stop for a second and try seeing the world through someone else's eyes, someone different than you. No Pete, I meant REALLY try...
"proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system"
right on brother! down with the devil's booklearnin'!
Pete, what I wonder is what you and your bunch of single issue rantors are doing for the health and well being of those who ALREADY ARE BORN?
Hey Pete!
Ya ain't come out of yer office yet?! I'm here to take you home.
Apparently the hits just keep on coming.
"The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system."
Um, last I checked there were private colleges. Lots of em. For all you know that particular commenter went to Oral Roberts, Bob Jones, or BYU.
I am afraid your blogging career is essentially over. This blog will always be known as the blog that responded to an Onion article. Always.
Pete? Do you and your bunch ever work for clean air, restrictions on mercury in our food, air and water?
Do you ever think about the motor/neurological damage in infants ALREADY BORN, caused by the lobby of Chemical Corporations?
You "pro" life people are not really pro -life, you are just pro-birth.
Get a life, ok? Work for the already born. They feel a whole lot more pain than clusters of cells.
Please write some more...PLEASE, for the love of God this is the best blog I have read in while. Sweet Jesus my eyes are red.
"..& what color is "stunned"?"
You are so cute. Maybe you should take this gig on the road. I'll pay a buck O' five to see this in person.
Oh how stupid ye are O Pete.
Let me count the ways.
1) You interpret a blatant parody as solemn seriousness. This demonstrates you are desperate to believe the worst of your opponents - after all, they're all murderers, right? They must hate humans and want to kill everyone! What a warped worldview.
2) You write not one, but TWO posts in which you demonstrate quite clearly your utter inability to interpret satire. Though you have had this pointed out to you on, hmm last count shows 1100 occasions, you fail to understand the basic humour of the parody. It is funny because it is so insane. You are funny because you are so insane you think that people are actually like this.
3) "The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system." Non-sequitur. This is just stupid. Please get some education.
4) You are STILL demonstrating your inability to perceive this as the majority do. You are an extremist Pete. You do understand that, right? You are on the fringe. Most of society laughs at people like you, with pity, because your ignorance is so plain that all can see it, and your righteousness so foully strong that you are blind to your own ignorance.
Please, write another post about this whole Onion thing. Be sure not to say "oops, I'm a bit of a fool" because you might actually achieve a level of humility then. You know, humble? There was this fish-prophet who said humility was cool and stuff. I can't remember his name right now.. He had a big book, real popular for centuries.
Ah whatever.
The "monthly call for life"? Oh, Pete, you naughty boy! Bad timing, dude, maybe next week, cuz you see, I'm on a losin' streak.
This guy has got to be Andy Kaufman.
*GOT* to be.
Aborted fetuses taste delicious, I wish they were sold legally in the US.
Please note that there is not a single "cuss word" in this comment, so you don't have to skip over it to protect yourself from the English language.
What's so amazing to me is that the main thing you got out of all the comments as that people used "cuss words" to refer to one of the stupidest acts performed by a human being in public in a really long time.
I assume that this is simply because you really have no good response to the content of the comments, so you sought to change the subject to the "cuss words," etc.
That, in a way, is actually fairly intelligent. One Machiavelli-type rule for demagoguery is:
When losing very badly in dealing with substantive issues, try to draw attention away from your failure towards some flaw, no matter how trivial and *irrelevant* to the issue.
Of course, it doesn't really work in a case like this, because talking about people's use of "cuss words" is not even in the same general universe as your own errors are, and, of course, it's dishonest.
It's one of those mote/beam things, and it's too obvious to be good ploy in a case like this. A debating trick is only a "good thing" (again, in a Machiavellian sense) if it doesn't contribute to the appearance that you are pathetic and hopeless.
Although I seem to be one of the few actually to point out the absolute and utter and perfect irrelevance of your response, I suspect nearly everyone noticed.
Keep up the good work.
Keep it up, paragon of... um... Something. We need more like you. I'm serious.
You have embarrassed your parents, your siblings and your children for all time. You prove your opponents point by your very blog.
anti-abortionists are anti-american and should get the fuck out of my country
Could you unbrainwash the rest of us?
Just. Stop. Now.
It's one thing to be ignorant and quite another to parade it around.
Apologize. Pull the blog down. Start over with another name. Better yet, read and don't write. You are seriously in need of more education. (The "edjamacated" thing -- not funny.)
I've had a good laugh like everyone else but now I'm starting to worry that you actually vote and drive a car and interact in the world. This level of stupidity is scary.
They don't use The Onion as a teaching aid or a textbook in public schools, not at the grade school level nor at the college one. However, it has become such a well-known site that few people who have undergone the general socialization that comes from most colleges- both public and private- have not at least heard of it. That does not mean that everyone approves or likes The Onion, it just means it has notoriety. Please do not confuse that as being some kind of deliberate taint the public school system has strived to leave its graduates with.
And please do not confuse your own ignorance with that of the people mocking you. So many seem to have been struck dumb by the sheer ridiculous of your position that the words needed to describe how we feel about your posts may not exist in the English language, hence the tendancy to do little besides remark on your stupidity.
And don't confuse the desire for a woman to be able to make a decision concerning her body with anyone being pro-abortion. To many minds, being forced to carry an unwanted pregancy to term and give birth is as horrifying to you as the concept of abortion is. I'd offer the old comparison "Would you want to be forced to undergo such a huge, scary experience like that", excpet being male you can say "of course I'd carry my child to term and devote my whole life to caring for it", free from ever being forced to do as well as your words by the simple fact that you lack the equipment to become pregant.
Personally, I couldn't ever go through with an abortion. But I fully support the right of women to have that choice to make for themselves, since I respect that others do not feel the same way as I- and I do not see the first-trimester procedures as wrong, or bad. There is a huge difference between a 2-month-old clot of cells that lacks a brain, limbs, or developed internal organs and a hyperactive five-year old being a pest. The comparisons you are making about murder do not take this into account.
I could go on, at length, but I think you are unlikely to bother to read the extent of my post, let alone make an attempt to think about whether or not my position might hold a spark of validity.
Here's another multiple poster, because you still haven't answered my question...
How many unwanted babies have you actually adopted, Pete? How many unwanted babies have any of your friends in the "march for life" adopted?
Because if the answer is "none", then all you're proposing is filling up the orphanages, expecting other people to do the job you're forcing them to do.
Ouch, must have been a real oh shit moment. I have to say I have sympathy for you after reading the comments ridiculing you.
I won't say it was an easy mistake to make, and perhaps if you didn't have an exaggerated idea of views which oppose you, it wouldn't have happened.
But no-one deserves that much flaming or humiliation. I'm impressed that you haven't turned off the commenting function.
No you have the wrong idea. I'm pro-life. But you are just a fucking douchebag.
You're a real idiot.
See, the reason that education and The Onion seem to go together is that educated people (i.e. those who understand basic grammar) are more likely to understand the meaning behind the words they read. An intelligent person (with only a mild to moderate persecution complex) might find an outrageous article on an Internet site and give it a moment's pause, upon which he/she would likely notice the context of OTHER ridiculous articles and "get it." For those who get it, The Onion can be quite entertaining.
Now, someone who doesn't get it, well... they'd be likely to fly off the handle and, if empowered by a really neato blog, make a complete and utter fool of themselves.
"Either way, I think I did a good job of turning the “satire” right back at them, don’t you?"
Evidently not.
Three strikes, you're out.
Wait you really asked "what color is stunned"? It's kind of a well-known phrase... to question it is ludicrous. Remember the band "Color me Badd"? Like that. Your viewpoints are normally respectable but here I'm surprised with the mistakes that you've made. For certain things you should just stop, accept the losses, and move on. Especially with things like The Onion and phrases like "color me ______". Those are not-so-recent well-known references, if you don't know about them that's fine but it hurts your credibility if you comment on them. It's unfortunate but true; look at the comments. People who normally would have taken your pro-life stances seriously no longer will because of those comments. Yes it's stupid but that's how it is so you should learn to deal with it if you are trying to convince people of something.
It's fascinating to watch "enlightened" liberals JUMP to beat down someone who made a mistake. Nice attitudes and nice language. The fact that some have posted multiple times is even more telling.
Josh | 07.11.06 - 9:28 pm | #
He made a mistake, that is true. But then he tried to pretend like he knew The Onion was satire the whole time, and dug himself in a hole.
Finally, he came out with another post in which he again didn't ackowledge making a mistake, but instead decided to focus on a couple rude comments.
That he posted multiple times without acknowledging a mistake and you know, adhering to all that conservative stuff about claiming personal responsibility is even MORE telling.
ahem.... Ban The Stupid From The Internet!!!
The person who writes this blog is clearly missing a rather large and obvious point. Please refrain from reproducing and do the human race a favor.
For more info, please see repetitive related previous posts...
Seriously, this is getting old!
To all the elite liberal biased homos trying to tear down those who support life here, God doesn't support you and neither does America, who you hate along with Bush (you have mental illness) and freedom. Got get a clue, morans!
Someone said he had a Wikipedia article. Well, I found a mention in the Onion article, but didn't find his own article. Can someone help?
Mnemosyne, if Pete here had even had an "oh shit" moment, he certainly hasn't posted it here. In fact, he's pretty much insinuated that everyone who has tried to inform him that he was mistaken in his idea that it was a serious article is just evil. And he's posted three posts to that effect.
He's right, and about a million other people are wrong.
No sympathy for anyone who is so completely obsessive in his need to be right above all else--even on a subject on which he's so obviously WRONG. It's no longer a mistake--it's a delusion.
If he can't even admit he made a mistake about The Onion without ridiculing those who pointed it out (even nicely), he's irredeemable.
Pete, colleges are often private. Why some even have a Christian focus!
Also, I would like to help you with your sarcasm problem. A typical strategy is to flip an expected subject with an unexpected one. For instance "color me stunned." You're correct: you don't know what color that is. Advanced neuro-expertologists call that moment when one's conciousness is liberated from the brain's rational centers "a funny." The tingling sensation means it's working.
Liberals ARE evil. All of you. I hope your buddies in Al Kuyaida kill you with a dirty bomb.
Pete - the Onion piece is complete satire. It is FAKE. Everybody seems to know this but you...Maybe it's the "brainwashing" we got in the schools.
Obviously you haven't been through much schooling, or you'd write a bit better. I must admit that "putting" random "words" like "satire" in quotes is amusing, though.
Stop being a dumbass - the only people you're going to convince are those that are either batshit insane or mind-numbingly stupid.
It's annoying to me that most pro-lifers are the only ones who probably should have been aborted to begin with.
Keep on keeping yer freedoms on this blogging site, Pete. Yer making ol'Chimpy proud of his fellow Amurikkkans.
Stop being a dumbass - the only people you're going to convince are those that are either batshit insane or mind-numbingly stupid.
PhoenixFlare | 07.11.06 - 10:41 pm | #
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Its you LIBERALS who are dumbass, who hate freedom and our president, with your bias toward evil and the Supreme Court.
Hi Pete,
I have no name. I live nowhere. Not even heaven. I'm an aborted child. My mom didn't want me. I can't tell you how I'm able to type this reply with my undeveloped little finger nubs, but that's not why I'm here.
I'm here to tell you that I'm glad I'm not in this world. I watch. I know. Shit man, it's crazy out there. Scat porn. Kids shootin' kids. Meth addicted cops raping people. The students at Duke University. That George Bush guy. People who write terrible terrible blogs on the internet.
Did I mention pollution, stupid people, and poverty???
I'm happy to be aborted. I'm one of the cool kids.
Pete, I am not sure that all of these comments are exactly in the category of 'personal attacks', rather logical obsevations.
If it walks like a duck
and talks like a duck
then it must be a duck.
or in some cases, and I won't name names here, but...
If it comprehends like a nitwit
and it posts like a nitwit
then it must be a nitwit.
Catch my drift?
Hal - yeah, whatever. I know plenty of diehard neocon Republicans that wouldn't fall for something as obviously satire as that Onion article.
Keep fighting the good fight, it keeps the rest of us entertained.
Yes, as a liberal, I completely hate freedom because freedom is what allows us to enjoy abortions!
We also eat children raw after smoking marijuana. Thats what goes behind the scenes in the DNC. Y'all should try it.
I am now close to totally convinced that March Together for Life is, in itself, a satirical site. This guy is undoing any possible good the pro-life movement could be doing. Very, very clever.
Dude, just admit that you were taken in by a piece that was, in fact, satire.
I don't know if you've read the Onion before, but it is a satirical paper. If you read it often enough, you will realize this.
I am just trying to be helpful.
sir, you are painfully stupid. it would probably be in your best interests to stop adressing the fact that you mistook a satirical publication for news. it's hard to understand how you made this mistake, what with the headline "Gaywads, Dorkwads Sign Historic Wad Accord," and all. also, you keep addressing caroline weber, saying she wrote this article. this is not true. she is a completely fictional (make believe) author.
surely, the anti-abortion movement has better champions than you. in the future it may be best to have one of them proofread your work.
p.s. "color me stunned" is a correct use of the term "color." the ellipsis ("...") denotes dramatic pause and does not function like a comma. do you read?
Heartland Hal I 'preciate yer dedicashun to the conservative movement. Wanna f*ck some sheep?
Ok, so I suppose we are supposed to believe that you have never heard of the phrase "color me stunned" or "color me astounded", for instance.
Then we are supposed to believe that you didn't realize that this guy was calling YOU a douchbag after a beief pause as illustrated by the ellipses.
And on top of that, you don't know what satire is or the Onion?
This has to be a colossally funny joke. Really. Kudos to whomever put it on.
Please, no more blogging! I sat at my desk all day and had to claim vacation leave because I did nothing but read, snort and wipe my eyes. I love fanatics (just don't leave the house)!
Do you think that other folks' rudeness somehow makes you smarter? It does not. You are still quite stupid.
I really do feel bad for you about the flaming, Pete.
You probably should have just retracted your statements instead of trying to justify them once you found out what the Onion was. To most of the people here your mistake would be like believing something you read in the tabloids. The flaming is unfortunate, but it's the internet and that's how things go.
I'm pro-choice, btw, but at this point I don't think I'm here to debate about that.
Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?
GI JOE SAYS 'ABORTIONS ARE A-OK WITH ME'
Pete, I think you're missing the fact that even people who agree with you on the abortion issue think you're an idiot. People who use profanity make themselves look bad but you are just so shocking, it's sort of understandable that a lot of people would have that kind of knee-jerk reaction.
I just can't comment without using profanity. This is just too much to politely address.
You stupid cockmaster, what the hell is wrong with you? Why on Earth are you digging yourself deeper into a hole? Watch this marvel of typing, you could have used this to get out of your situation:
"Oops, didn't realize that was THAT The Onion!"
So easy. Done and done. You would have taken ribbing, but at least you'd only have 600+ comments instead of 1200+.
You've truly brought your pro-life issue into the spotlight - unfortunately you've set it back at least 100 internet-years. Now everyone that get entertainment from the internet will know you, know your issue, and know how badly you fucked all of it up.
You are what is wrong with this country (the US, that is, as thankfully the internet is worldwide - as is your asshtattery). A bunch of fascist control freaks, jumping to conclusions, and coming up with ridiculous excuses.
In your case, you seek to control women. As others have pointed out, the already-born (of any age) have a much harder time than a bundle of cells ever could. You want to control women, because none of you pro-life extremists (the moderates are fine) give two shits about the kid after it gets popped out. You couldn't give a shit.
In fact, I bet if you ever get a girlfriend after this delightful demonstration of your gullibility, you'll end up beating her. You want to control women, right? Want to control what goes on with them, inside of them, and around them? Sure you do, you're a pro-life extremist. So you'll end up beating the girl.
But no, you won't just up and do it. It'll start out peachy, things will go alright, but you'll be nervous and scared. And a few months in, when you can't hold in that awkwardness anymore, it'll be POW. And you'll keep doing it and doing it, because the mindset of someone that beats their girl is just like the mindset of a pro-life fringe lunatic like yourself.
Anyway. What is really great about this whole situation is that you've managed to set back the online pro-life movement. You've made a complete fucking ass of yourself, alienated like-minded folks, and embarrassed every halfway intelligent human being.
Say what you will about the people commenting, it doesn't matter - the only genuinely uneducated person here is you.
You fucking fuck.
Also from The Onion . . .
Taco Bell Launches New 'Morning After' Burrito
March 12, 1997 | Issue 31•09
PURCHASE, NY—Hot on the heels of last week's FDA approval, on Monday PepsiCo subsidiary Taco Bell launched its controversial "morning after" burrito, a zesty, Mexican-style entree that prevents unwanted pregnancies if ingested within 36 hours following intercourse.
Developed by a team of top Taco Bell gynecologists, the $1.99 "ContraceptiMelt" burrito creates an inhospitable environment within the womb, causing fertilized ovum tissue to be flushed from the body.
Also available are ContraceptiMelt Supremes, featuring sour cream and extra cheese.
Taco Bell officials are excited about the offering. "In the past, before Roe v. Wade, young women literally had to 'make a run for the border' to terminate an unwanted pregnancy," Taco Bell public relations director Grant Lesko said. "But now, women can make that same run for the border at over 7,300 convenient locations right in their own hometowns."
Pete:
Its over.
March Together for Life will forever be known as "the blog run by the guy who fell for an Onion article." That will be your major contribution to the pro-life movement. Congratulations.
Dan
I'm bookmarking this page. It's going right under my "Onion" bookmark.
Really, this is great. Please keep blogging.
Pete. Just give it up. You lost. You know that just as much as us "pro-abort" ignunts.
"...which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system."
What, because we like a little humor? Because we don't weep and pray for aborted parasites? I'm sure you're a fairly decent fellow, Pete. You're just lacking in the common sense department.
I'm not attacking you, Pete. I've also not said a single profane word. Can you fabricate a reason to dislike me, Pete?
You should probably just forget about this whole thing. Stop bringing it up, and people will stop thinking that you're completely off your rocker.
Dude, The Onion has had articles doing a point-counterpoint of watching the Bears football team and a mans family getting attacked by a grizzly. I have a hard time believing that you will defend your argument rather than just saying that you made an error although you still feel strongly towards the issue.
Also, you're famous, fucker:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Mar...gether_For_Life
I cannot - just CANNOT believe that Pete actually responded to my posting in his "Comments." My posting!?!? Wow!
I feel so honored. My God. Out of 900 and some odd comments trying to talk common sense, and Pete responds to little old mine?!? I'm happy I used the cuss words now to stand out. Absolutely remarkable.
First, a grammatical lesson. Since I've already provided a name (which the Blog software uses to identify date and time of response), I would not need to double-identify myself. Those periods? They are called ellipses, idiot. In common English they are a grammatical convention used to denote missing text; alternatively, they're a literary convention used as a pausing measure (sorta like a Caesura, but for prose).
So, in this case, they are used to express my sense of disbelief ... before calling you a "douchebag." So, the "... douchebag" was aimed at you, douchebag of douchebags. Using the phrase "color me ... " anything is also a literary convention. Man, are you serious? It's so amusing having to explain this.
Clearly, this site - and by that I mean this foolish, Pro-Life Site - must be a joke. Also, where did I mention I was "Pro-Abort" (whatever that means anyway)? I don't see anything in my comments. So, let me get this point straight: Pete is saying that people who point out how utterly idiotic he is are "Pro-Abort?"
If that were the case, I think the legions of folks would be such that Roe v. Wade would never be under threat. Translation for the duller amongst us (e.g. Blog's author): alot of people think you are an idiot, and no, that it not tantamount to everyone being a "Pro-Abort" (ref: http://dictionary.reference.com/...wse/tantamount)
which would be a Non Sequitur (ref: http://dictionary.reference.com/...non%20sequitur)
.
Man, you really are an utter embarrassment.
Oh, and the final assessment of "The Onion": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
The...taken_seriously
Funny thing is I don't think even a Wikipedia entry will matter to Pete. I hear the Wikipedia servers run on ground up aborted fetus parts, ergo the pages must be full of lies.
Just what I heard, so it must be true, righty Petey? What a douchebag (that would be you, All-Star).
Pete Pete the pro-life kook,
the more we read the more we hoot!
You sir, the best thing to happen to your movement.
This will be the most popular example of pro-life people.
Too bad, because some of them are smart people.
The people who value choice and personal responsibility will win.
If you win your fight, I'll let you know when and where you can pick up the baby I don't want.
I am so jealous! I've been dying to get people to flock to my blog the way they have to yours.
I gotta start being stupider.
How do you do it, Pete? What's your secret? Do you deprive yourself of oxygen? Do you regularly hit yourself on your head with heavy objects? Whatever it is, keep it up, man.
You are hilarious.
Well, sirrah, at least we are educated enough to tell the difference between a real news site and one that is a blatant joke.
But hey, at least you provide us with quality entertainment. Go you!
*ring ring*
Pete: Hello?
Monthly Call for Life: Is this Pete?
Pete: Yes, who is this?
Monthly Call for Life: Not important. *snicker* Listen, I've been meaning to tell you something.
Pete: Yes?
Monthly Call for Life: YOU EAT DOODY AND BABIES FOR BREAKFAST *snicker* AND YOU WRITE REALLY NOT VERY GOOD HA HA HA
*click*
Pete:
At least be honest:
You don't want to save babies, you want to control others.
Worse still, you base it on your personal mythology that not everyone subscribes to.
Why am I bothering?
Pete, you're a walking, talking, blogging cliche.
Close to 1,200 comments on your two other posts on this subject, running about 1,195 to 5 against you, and you're still at it. If you're representative of the brains behind the anti-choice forces, then I expect those of us on the opposite side need not worry.
Oh and . . . douchebag!
I understand your mistake and feel deeply for the cause you support, Pete. The people who leave nasty comments are the kind of immoral and God hating people who would murder beautiful children just so they can have "careers" and "lives". What kind of lives do they want when children are our future? If those slut women keep crying about wanting lives and kill their babies, who's gonna serve me my freedom fries and extra large Coke 18yrs from now?
I am a God Warrior. GARGOYLES ARE AMONG US!
No matter how many times you post something in response to your original Caroline Weber blog post, or to the personal attacks you have received, one thing will always be as clear as day:
You are a fucking dumbass.
For your information a douche is a spermacidal liquid that women use after sex to prevent conception, now go write another hilarious post, I'm eating this up.
One more person chiming in to let you know that you need to reconsider your own intelligence.
You're really making the other pro-lifers look bad... did you even see some of the other article titles the Onion publishes? go to the site at www.theonion.com, "U.S. protests Mexi-Canadian Overapss", "Life Jackets Issued to All Americans." Umm...yea, very REAL news there.
Seriously, just stop before someone Darwins you. And over 1,000+ comments & you're nitpicking at one or two. Geez!
You're really making the other pro-lifers look bad... did you even see some of the other article titles the Onion publishes? go to the site at www.theonion.com, "U.S. protests Mexi-Canadian Overapss", "Life Jackets Issued to All Americans." Umm...yea, very REAL news there.
Seriously, just stop before someone Darwins you. And over 1,000+ comments & you're nitpicking at one or two. Geez!
Uhhh. Petey?
I went to both private school and private university.
You are obviously somewhat impaired when it comes to reason and logic and writing just ain't your thing bud. Might as well quit now and avoid future ridicule.
At this point the entire english speaking internet is laughing AT you.
You even made it to fark.com, a real achievement given that it is the number one links site in the world.
you're killing me!!!!! lolololol -- you just soooooo don't get it---dude stop the madness!!!! I really feel for you--NOT-- I can guarantee though you will be asked on one of the big comedy sor talk hows--this will not go unnoticed--have fun!!!
I know this has been said but how does he put "satire" in quotes----lolololol---how fucking dumb can you get!!! oh yeah I am only out there to fuck up pro-lifers with logic--huh?
ejumacated--dork--you so do not have a grasp on the reality of the situation -- is Caroline Weber still talking to you? gees I am so glad you get to tell me about my body-FU
Pete, you are the very reason I abandoned a belief in god (yes, uncapitalized) so long ago. Look what it did to your brain! To reiterate what many people have told you: The article is FAKE. It was written as a joke. Are you familiar with the concept of a joke? Or do you think that all those blonde jokes you hear at the office are actual anecdotes, you drooling simp? Do the world a favor and read a book besides the Bible.
I just want to thank the author of this blog for providing entertainment throughout this little saga..
This has GOT to be a joke. I mean, no one can possibly be this clueless.
...right?
Actually, Pete is completely right. Most people *think* The Onion is "satire," but probably it's because those people used the Merrian-Webster's definition of "satire." God's definition of "satire" is an abortion mill. I was actually forced to abort my baby, using my own tow hands and a pair of 4th of July barbecue tongs -- and then to add insult to the most grevious injury a woman can suffer, they forced me at gunpoint to write that sick article.
Rest assured, Carol Weber *is* real, and I know because that is who I am. Don't let the Onion pass of this conscienceless murder of my child under the false guise of satire.
haha this must be satire too
Forget Wikipedia, now you're REALLY famous:
http://
www.encyclopediadramatica...gether_For_Life
I'm with the 'please tell me this is satire itself' grouping. The stupidity of reacting and thinking otherwise would be truly depressing.
Thanks Heartland Hal for your support. I'm glad *someone* here understands the horrible injury I suffered at the hands of The Onion editorial staff. Your words truly warm my heart.
It is true, these Satanic liberals cannot seem to get more than a few words out without uttering profanity. They are so caught up in their "effs" and their "something-holes" that they don't see what really happened here. Abortion doctors are using "satire" to conceal their horrible crimes against humanity.
Pete and Hal are the only real men here. The rest of you are just a bunch of God-hating Sodomites. You know, it's because of people like you that God created IEDs and Fred Phelps, to spread His word on Earth.
http://www.godhatessatire.com
lololololo---yes indeed "satire"----you have to be freakin' based on my seeing all the organisations you work with on this issue---time for a new approach?---maybe you need a time out to see that you might not be RIGHT-P.S. are you using your own kid as the poster child for this movement?--that is child abuse in my mind--your kid has no choice and can tug on your leg--kid is different from fetus
You are an embarrassment to Peters everywhere ... douchenozzle.
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh . . . oops? Are you ready to admit defeat?
Ehdee -- is the stupidity of reacting and thinking otherwise really depressing? Isn't it actually edifying?
Don't you think that God wants us to be this stupid? I certainly do. After all, college educations apparently lead to sins like profanity and awareness of the concept of "satire," which is apparently a fancy word for ripping a child out of a woman's womb.
If understanding "satire" is intelligence, then count me out. Righteous, dumb, and blond -- that's the *real* Carol Weber, not the twisted, tortured soul I was forced to impersonate at the hands of the cruel editorial staff of The Onion.
So what if Pete is now mentioned on Wikipedia? Everyone knows that Wikipedia is just a tool of the devil. After all, look at this false definition they have of satire:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire
"Satire is a literary technique of writing or art which exposes the follies of its subject"?!?!? WRONG!
Actually, satire is a medical technique of cutting or suctioning which exposes the fetus to death. That's what satire really is. I can't believe all these people who claim to be "college educated" don't know the real meaning of that word. I guess they must have gone to the National Institute of Swears or something, judging by their horrible language.
Just wait until somebody satires your baby... golly-darn liberals!!!!!!!
Petey, keep your head up man. God is on your side. A tisket a tasket a nut case int a basket. Forget these losers. God has a plan for you Pete. I mean like a real important plan. I'm talking mission impossible important. Ya know?
Let me tell you something Pete my man. The lord broke the mold when he made good old Pete. You are a rock Pete. Play on playa. No one can touch you PETE. Remember what R-Kelly sang. "I believe I can fly. I believe I can touch the sky." Well thats you Pete. You can fly. You're the Phenom. The man of the century.
As long as you stick to your guns. Don't listen to any of this cotton picken stinking mess.
Pete I feel like I've known you all my life. Do you know Cathy May? She live in a run down shack on Old Hull road. Next to where the big old Oak tree that paw paw and Maxine cut down for firewood last winter. Bah anyway Pete it doesn't matter. I know you Pete.
I've known you all my life. You're my brother Pete. My relection if you will. I am you and you are me. We are two and two are one. We're like the reverse of splitting the atom Pete. If they even really split the atom. They tell us anything and expect us to beleive it right Pete? Yea right evolution. Creationism 4 Life foo!
Killing dem babies in dead wrong Pete and these left wing liberal hippy pot smoking crack dealing lefties don't understand. This is pure dee satan's work. "Go tell it on the mount-tain. Over the hills and Every" sing it with me PETE. "where. Goooo tell it on the mountain that Jesus Christ is born".
That song reminds me of Mary and Joseph. What if Mary had gotten a divorce PETE!?! I mean an abortion...whatever they are both sins against GAWD!!! Where would we be today? What is Mary had aborted little baby Jesus. OOOOHHHHH Pete I can't stand the thought of it. We would have been ...... focus Pete. We would have been without the Lord Jesus and man would have never been forgiven for our sins. And that Pete my man would have sucked.
Anyway Pete. I've gotta run. Anytime you want to get together and kick back a few beers just let me know Petey boy. I've got your back! We can get drunk and dig up those guns you have buried in your backyard for "When the shit goes down". Cause you know what Pete. I think the shit is going down now!
Are you completely retarded??? Read this week's Onion, have a laugh and get a clue. Keep your political opinions to yourself until you can tie your shoes.
You point him out for not being able to debate rationally without insults...and then insult him. There's some logic for you.
And to top that off, you pull one off-handed comment about college (which is not the public school system by the way), which merely served to point out that The Onion is popular with young people, and make that into a blanket statement. Ridiculous.
The first big peak was yesterday, which raised his 7 day average to 489 visitors per day.
Today alone, he has nearly 89,000 visitors.
See how easy it is to be a traffic whore? And with more than 93,000 visitors in the past week, not a single abortion was prevented by his efforts.
Satire begat satire.
And btw, those who claim 'no one' is pro-abortion, please don't speak for me. I'm not just pro-choice, I'm pro abortion. I think they are one of the necessities of human civilizations that have always existed and will continue to exist, despite every effort to outlaw the practice.
Looking past the fact that you use a fake source like The Onion, you make the least convincing arguments I've ever heard.
With every post you make, you look less convincing than you did with the one before. My advice: STOP POSTING!
If you want to protest abortions, then go and protest abortions. However, you are making the entire pro-life movement look bad because of your blog. It now has worldwide recognition, but not because people support you, because they think you're an idiot. Sure, you're good for a laugh, but if you want pro-lifers to be taken seriously, shut up for a while. Delete your blog and try to pretend it never happened. All you're doing is digging yourself a deeper hole.
Hey,
I like your style. You should come and be an editor on my Wikipedia! We could use a few good men like you.
-Jimbo
hey dude---we are all marching together in here for life--you just seem to think your way is the only way--fuck you--get out of that little town and see some of the world--i can guarantee you will see things in a whole new light
Pete, I'm really pulling for yeah. And Heartland Hal too. Don't let these people boss you around.
One thing to point out, though: I think you meant "College Educated" in your subject line to this, not "College Edamucated." The latter is not a real word. My anti-life buddy here says that you were engaging in a bit of satire yourself by intentionally mispelling the word, but I just don't believe it! I know you are far too good of a person to ever take the life of a human being just for a joke, like those Satinist Satirsts at The Onion.
P.S. ohman asks, "Are you completely retarded???" Why do you ask, ohman? I'll bet an evil liberal like you would have me aborted if I was actually retarded! Ever seen Gattaca? You sick freak...
You thrive on personal attacks as well, my friend. Man up and stop crying. Move along and condemn some more baby-kiillers. I'm sure God apperciates the help. I mean come on, it's not like he's been handling the world on his own since creation. He needs all the help he can get.
You know, I saw a fascinating interview last night on "Countdown" on MSNBC. It was with John Dean, who used to be President Nixon's lawyer but has now written a book about what's happened to the conservative movement.
He says that about 23% of the population is "authoritarian" - not "conservative" in the traditional sense of the term, but interested primarily in exerting control over others, and in marching in lockstep with those who want to exert that control.
It's OK, Pete - there are a lot of complicated ideas in this post. I don't expect you to get them. Just know that when that "I'm part of the 23 Percent" T-shirt arrives in the mail next week (I addressed it to your mom's basement - you ARE still living down there, right, Pete?), that it's meant for you. Feel free to wear it during your next monthly march.
Dear "meow":
I am not "marching together" with anyone who would use that horrible language! You even used an "eff"! Do you have any idea how many baby angels die every time you say that word? Actually, you probably do. You probably wish that a thousand fetuses would die every time you dropped an "eff." Shame on you, meow.
And for the record, Pete's way *is* the only way, or at least the only way to salvation. You liberals will all burn in Heck, along with all the baby angels you killed with your effs and your something-somethings and all those other swears!
In fact, I just called my pastor, and he told me that s*tire is also a swear! Can you believe it? Pete, be careful, these liberals tricked you into a sin, saying a word that is against God.
Anyway, I have to sign off now and repent for typing that hateful word s*tire so many times. I hope God will forgive me...
I'm astonished at how quickly Pete has moved from subject-related arguments to personal attacks and grammar nitpicking. Record time!
Are you saying it's good to not be college educated then? The Onion, despite what you may have been lead to believe, is not taught at too many schools, if any. I suspect the message was more that anyone with an education (any many people without one) should have realized it was a satire upon reading it. Failing that, looking through the rest of the host website before making a very humorous public post wouldn't have been a bad idea.
Color me _________ is a pretty dated expression that I'd expect most people have heard. You don't actually fill in the blank with a color. In case you didn't know. Though I'm sure it was just another poor attempt at humor.
You didn't go to college?
Now it all makes sense.
How many unwanted babies have you actually adopted, Pete? How many unwanted babies have any of your friends in the "march for life" adopted?
Because if the answer is "none", then all you're proposing is filling up the orphanages, expecting other people to do the job you're forcing them to do.
"You don't see a lot of these white, anti-abortion women volunteering to have any black fetuses transplanted into their uteruses, do you? No. You don't see them adopting a whole lot of crack babies, do you? No -- that might be something Christ would do."
--G. Carlin
Abortion is part of God's Plan. See:
Understanding God's Plan
thanks
oh Dear Carol: satire, satire, satire--i typed it for you love. worry about your own salvation, not mine---you know we are both for shit under this pro-life shit please send you pastor over to my house when you are done
"I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system.
I've never set foot in a public school (13 years of Catholic School and 4 years of private college) and I knew that The Onion was a humour site. Kids don't learn about The Onion at school anymore than they learn about the latest Superman Movie at school. People talk.
Pete, you make a good point about the swearing and personal attacks. I agree that it is uncalled for. Unfortunately for you, that's the only good point you've made in over a week.
Meow-
How dare you! Not only would my pastor never associated with an "eff"-dropper and an "ess"-dropper like yourself! But I think you are implying that you want s*xual relations with my pastor.
I don't think you know what you are getting into. Maybe you are used to all those liberals with their Satan-cursed tiny members, but my pastor weilds the power of God in his holy garments! Surely if he *did* see fit to, ahem, "lie with" a s*tiremonger like yourself, his mighty rod would tear you asunder.
Besides, your "temple" has probably been horribly mutilated by all the abortions and s*tire you have engaged in during your sinful life. Shame, shame, shame.
http://www.godhatesmeow.com
Dear Pete: I'm thinking you should close this place. You have NO sense of humor or sense of rationality or of being humble. Keeping it open is great, as it is great laughs, but dude you are not catchin' what is hittin' you. I kinda (well minor kinda) feel sorry for you. You gotta be hittin your head on a floor tonight. Hey we have all been taken before, but man you were TAKEN!!! THE ONION!!!!!!!!
"Got get a clue, morans!"
God. Stop Hal. please. you're killing me.
oh dear Carol--YES my sinful life---g-d--oh help!!
i'll take on the pastor--as a the lesbian that i am--he will run, run, run . . .
You just. Don't. Get it. The point of these perceived "attacks" is not that exclusively "pro-aborts" are making personal attacks on you, it's that you cannot seem to fathom that the Onion article is satire. IT'S NOT REAL. There is no "Caroline Weber," and trying to pass your stupidity off by nitpicking comments left on your blog and questioning semantics will just get deeper into the hole. I think that this comment summed it up quite nicely. Please, read it. Then think. Then read it again. Maybe then it will process; if not, then you're supplying thousands of internet-saavy people with some humor.
There once was a man from Nantucket
Who wore on his head a bucket
He just couldn't see
How evil The Onion could be
He lapsed into sin and said, "I like S*tire."
If you don't think it rhymes, then you hate children.
Did you know that The Onion is satire?
dear pete: how do you feel about lesbians raising their kids? we have them if you didn't know. i think you might need to assess your feelings about women in general. you are so off base about where babies come from or live. i really do think you need to do some traveling.
Imagine if Barbara Bush had opted to abort. It's sad that people just don't fully consider the consequences of their actions. Thanks for that, Bar.
God damn, all this fighting and talk of babies and abortion is giving me half a fucking pack o' Mentos.
HE MOVED HIS BLOG.
http://marchforlife.blogspot.com/
You can't comment there unless you have a blogger account.
His stupidity offended a lot of people, and he should be removed from blogger. The bible thumping wacko Christians always get their way when something offends them...
Remember, you can keep reading his nut job ramblings at:
http://marchforlife.blogspot.com/
Dude I have to say you have provided such an incredible amount of fun for me today that I must thank you.
You represent the antithesis of the Human endeavor. Damm that is amazing!!
Thanks you for that. I love you for being here on the Internets. You have given me a purpose again in life.
meow--
Now I find out you are one of THEM. Did you know that l*sbianism was the root cause behind the 9/11 attacks? It's true. Mohammed Atta's wife, who was already living a life of sin due to not having a proper Christian marriage, was tempted, as it turns out, by a l*sbian member of The Onion's editorial staff. Together, they had s*x with as many men as they could, aborted the fetuses in a strange Satirist ritual, published several political humor books criticizing the Bush Administration, and then ran off with each other to "do whatever it is you do." He was so crushed that he, well, you know the rest.
But you're probably happy. After all, those people who died were really just grown-up fetuses, right? And we all know how much you liberals hate fetuses....
P.S. Senator Santorum got it totally wrong when he compared gay marriage to bestiality. Show me in the bible where it says it's wrong to have s*xual relations with a dog! The only important thing is that the dog is of the opposite sex. I have two little pups of me own, but you better believe I know better than to lie with the b*tch. But the male dog, why would God want to prevent that? Golly-gee, where's my peanut butter....?
The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system
Dude, didn't your school have Satirical Internet News Sources 101? At my school it was required curriculum for all Freshmen. I didn't understand why we had to meet in the lecture hall for 12 hours at a time, watching fake news reels with special chairs that held our eyes open, but all I know is, now, I love the Onion!
Bob be praised!
Pete? Sweetie? Does the phrase "know when to stop" mean anything to you? Stop poking the sleeping bear, we already admire your stupidity.
I've been getting since I responded to the "satire" piece from the Onion.
I think you ought to call up the Onion, and ask them to put Ms. Weber on the line so that you can witness to her. Maybe you can turn her from her life of sin.
Don't believe all these heathen who are saying she's a fictional character. Everyone knows you can't just make stuff up and put it in a newspaper.
Save her, Pete, before she kills again.
oh my dear lord CAROL---you are THE best--that is the best laugh -- other than Pete-- that I ahve had in days--- I am truly lucky for this whole scenario---THANKS PETE--yes Carol I do want to marry my dog and oh people have no idea how satisfying dog on girl sex can be
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An intelligent right winger | 07.12.06 - 12:13 am |
What is in fact 'riciculous' is the fact that you are defending someone who uses a fake article as fact gets on a soapbox and procedes to pontificate, then when 'busted' for it defends that dishonest behavior not once, but twice.
Does the truth mean nothing to you? I understand we all make mistakes, but if you can't or won't own up to them then it is indefensible. And to get all bent out of shape that it was pointed out is very dishonest on its face.
So save it, if you get your jollies defending the dishonest more power to you, but don't get mad if others don't appreciate it.
An intelligent right winger | 07.12.06 - 12:13 am |
What is in fact 'riciculous' is the fact that you are defending someone who uses a fake article as fact gets on a soapbox and procedes to pontificate, then when 'busted' for it defends that dishonest behavior not once, but twice.
Does the truth mean nothing to you? I understand we all make mistakes, but if you can't or won't own up to them then it is indefensible. And to get all bent out of shape that it was pointed out is very dishonest on its face.
So save it, if you get your jollies defending the dishonest more power to you, but don't get mad if others don't appreciate it.
can we say: COLLEGE EJACULATION
Oh my God, Carol, you're a dude? So where have I been touching you with my healing rod these last years??
Carol: Be my guest. I'll provide more if need be.
I moved! And you can't comment!
Maybe some of you should have been aborted.
Online hoaxes on subjects like "DHMO" and the lost episode of "Lost in Space" are now obsolete. People are now perpetrating absurd hoaxes upon themselves.
My Dearest Pete,
I've been watching your ordeal for quite some time, and I was hoping you would do the right thing on your own, but now it seems clear you need someone to tell you explicitly: Delete this blog.
You have been caught in the embarrassing position of critiquing a fictitious person. Some people do this and there are no negative consequences, but sometimes it catches and can overwhelm an entire web site. You made one little mistake, and hit the "post" button in a moment of passion--we can all sympathize, we've all been there at some point.
I know you had high hopes for your blog, you had it named and even picked out a color scheme for the background. But your one lapse in judgement has destroyed your credibility. You have to think about what is best for all the other posts you plan to make in the future, not to mention the posts you already have. How will you be able to get them read seriously with your little mistake weighing you down? You seem to be having issues with denial. Let me assure you this is not a problem that will just go away, eventually you're going to have to deal with it and the sooner the better.
This doesn't mean you can't start up another blog in the future. I'm sure in a few years you'll be ready and make a great blogger. Every blog has potential, but I think its time you admitted the reality that you can't handle all the work that caring for this blog is going to take now. If you don't delete the blog now, there's a good chance your hosting server will have to step in and take it away from you because you just can't even afford the bandwidth you'll need. The longer you wait, the larger the blog will get and it will just be harder to let it go.
The decision to delete a blog is always tough, but it is a quick procedure and the sooner you get it done the sooner we can all move on with the rest of our lives.
Best Wishes,
OMG PETE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, YOU DAMN FUCKING DICK-HEAD?! WE ARE SO DAMNED MUCH SMARTED THAN YOU, YOU BABY-DEFENDING ASS HOLE! HOW DARE YOU TRY TO FUCK WITH A COLLEGE EDUCATION, YOU PILE OF SHIT?! AND ZOMG SATIRE RULES OUR GODDAMN WORLD, HAHAHA FUCK SHIT DAMN HELL ASS WHEEE YAY!
this guy pete is killing me--moves his blog--- but all you have to do is google him -- Peter Shinn---and you find even more dumb shit--like any of us want anything to do with a person who doesn't even know what "satire" is---he is still riding self righteous---dude--you fucked up--admit it---stream of consciousness I know--but what an exciting day--again the ONION
Any water bill experts out there?
My housemate is forwarding utility bills while she's gone this summer. (All the utilities are in her name.) In half of a duplex where four girls live, our water bill has always been about $60 -- sometimes $58 or $61, but always within a pretty narrow range. Once we had a $120 bill, but we chalked it up to none of us having lived on our own before and a general "conserve water" reminder to all of us.
We just got a $500 water bill. I'd never seen the actual water bill before, and it says "EST" for the Read Code. I asked my housemate who handles the utilities, and she said that the water company estimates our usage each month, and she just pays what they bill her. She called the water company, who told her that we could pay the $500 bill or have someone out to install a meter because our account indicated estimated usage. We chose to have someone out to install a meter. He's coming tomorrow between 8am and 12pm.
My question is: How the heck do they estimate usage if there's no meter? My handyman knowledge is zero. I'm well aware that I should have talked with my housemate several months ago about how our utilities worked, so, please, I'm already my most vicious critic! But does anyone have any advice or wisdom about estimated water bills?
Thanks so much!
>> "Maybe some of you should have been aborted???"
Excuse me, but as someone who actually respects faith -- all faith -- I have to say that that was a disgracefully un-Christian sentiment.
Jesus said nothing about abortions, homosexuals, capital gains tax cuts or weapons of mass destruction. He had a lot to say about hypocrisy. You might serve yourself to spend less time pontificating on what you think the Bible says and actually read the thing.
I find such a sentiment from a) a self-affirmed Christian and b) an anti-abortion supporter doubly shocking, at the very least.
Shame on you.
S L
So yesterday kept me really....well in the mood so to say. I felt like a puddle full of angst. Speech was fun...but I didn't really do anything and the compitition is on Saturday. I am falling behind on the request pics I got, mainly because of all the college drawing I have been worried about. Parents are getting on me because I haven't been taking my pills, and my mom wouldn't let me on the comp for a while. The only pirk of the night was listening to the AskArty show from start till 10pm (2 hours out of 4) and drawing for the art jam. Then again my question kinda made Arty quiet most of the night....
I got all the metals on normal mode on my Japanese Starfox 64, and I was really bored still so I slept. This morning my mother got all over my ass and shoved the pill and water down my maw as soon as I was up. Dad wanted me to do all kinds of crap before I went to Drawing I, I was late but the Prof was later o.o;
Duely noted, out of all my OL and RL furry friends only one has drawn Benji, most of the OL people I talk to on a reg basis and even give them gift art, 3 of which are just about dearly close friends as well. Makes me kinda sad, I know I am not the most social in Rl and chats, but when it comes to helping and making close OL friends feel better, I am always there.
Prevent unnecessary abortions. Engage in homosexual sex.
I wish you were a woman so I could rape you until you conceived, wait 9 moths, then rip the baby out.
Um, the dogdoo on my lawn is more intellectually and emotionally perceptive than you, sir.
Dave
Ahaha this is hilarious
SL: Chill--people are being sarcastic in here for obvious reasons. The definition of sarcasm can be found in the comments--they were mixed up with "satire". Look at all of this around you--truly funny and not about killing faith in any way.
Wow you ARE a true internet sensation Pete--you already have your very own Wikipedia article dedicated to your blog...congrats!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Mar...gether_For_Life
S L, I mean it. Some of you should be aborted. I can honestly say that after all of this. Including you.
"I moved! And you can't comment!"
Nice to know my Blogger account is still good for something...
And in case something happens to that comment, I'd like to note that the witless -- oops, I meant "witness" -- relocation program mite be Pete's best hope at this point.
However, I know many of you are baffled about my abortion comment. Me being pro-life and all.
Let me explain...
Advocating to make abortion illegal is not all there is to being prolife.
Yeah sure, make it illegal. It'll stop women from aborting.
I disagree.
We now have unbelievable access to medical information from the internet. Women will be attempting procedures herbal remedies and will still seek to have abortions. And even if they don't attempt it on themselves, they won't have to go into alley ways to abort their child. There will still be doctors, giving these services. However, since it'll be illegal, it'll be done in secrecy and being its without monitoring from health services, it'll be incredibly dangerous.
But did you get the gist of what I wrote? WOMEN WILL STILL SEEK TO HAVE ABORTIONS.
We should not be concerned with making illegal. I highly doubt that the numbers will decrease enough to make a difference. We should be focused on why women are so determined to go through this procedure. We should be working on stopping abortion, whether its illegal or not and helping women continue pregnanices and live fullfilling lives!!!!
Now my question is... who agrees with me?
Is it just pro-choicers?
Are there pro-lifers who feel the same as I do?
For those who disagree? Why?
Is there any substantial evidence that illegaizing abortion ALSO decreases the number of women seeking them?
Is there another reason?
The reason the "pro-aborts" (as you like to put it, even though it's a loaded term full of your rhetoric) can't seem to go more than two sentences without CURSING is because there's no changing people like you. You try to make life hell for everyone who thinks or feels differently than you do so you can create your idea of a perfect world. We don't live in a dictatorship ran by the radical right, we live in a democracy that cators to people will all different backgrounds and beliefs.
Most "pro-aborts" are not for the abortions you describe in several of your posts, sucking out the brains and tearing the fetus limb from limb except in cases of medical emergency. Also, the kind of abortions you describe account for LESS THAN 2% of the total number of abortions.. and majority of abortions occur before the fetus has a disernable heartbeat. You can use your rhetoric and half truths to sway the duller portions of society, or those who are willing to accept anything that fits into their personal morality.
Basically, I just wrote this to let you know that right now you're a worthless human being - and that's the reason we all "curse" you out. Some people are so horrible there's no other way to express your distaste with them.
So fuck off. (ps, I made it more than two sentences)
TRUTH! GOD WILLED IT!
Boy is aborted 3 times and lives
Reported in the Britain's The Sunday Times
February 13, 2005
Boy is aborted 3 times and lives
Lois Rogers and Sarah-Kate Templeton
A BABY survived at least three attempts to abort it from the womb and was born alive at 24 weeks old.
The boy was delivered in hospital after his 24- year-old mother changed her mind about wanting the child after feeling it move on the way home from an abortion clinic.
Although the clinic had told her an ultrasound scan had confirmed the child was dead, she went into labour that afternoon and the boy was born alive.
Now two years old and healthy, he is the first long-term abortion survivor to have been born so prematurely. His remarkable entrance into the world is documented in the Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology.
The mother had not realised she was going to have a baby until 22 weeks into the pregnancy and felt that she could not cope with a second child. She was given a series of abortion drugs over four days at a private clinic.
After birth the child was rushed to the hospital’s neonatal intensive care unit where he was on a ventilator for 7Å weeks. He fought off several life-threatening infections and suffered from severe lung disease for his first six months. He was allowed home after seven months of treatment.
Dr Paul Clarke, one of the report’s authors and the baby’s doctor at Hope hospital in Salford, Greater Manchester, said: “This mother went through extreme hardship waiting to see if her baby was going to make it. She was told to expect him to die so many times. I am full of admiration for her.”
The attempted abortions had been carried out at the British Pregnancy Advisory Service’s Blackdown clinic in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire.
Clarke reveals that paediatricians often intervene to save babies who have survived abortions.
He writes: “Late abortion raises serious practical, ethical and professional concerns. The dilemma of being telephoned about an infant born showing signs of life following termination of pregnancy is one that many paediatricians have faced. If viable, and resuscitated, those infants who survive may suffer significant illness.”
The paper calls for a review of late abortions at private clinics where there are no staff qualified to give emergency treatment if babies are born alive.
Ann Furedi, chief executive of the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, said: “It sounds highly unusual. Usually we would keep a woman at the clinic until she delivered the foetus. When women are having a late medical abortion they are normally attended in the clinic by nursing staff with specialist midwifery training.
“It would never be the case that a woman would be discharged with the expectation that she would deliver at home.”
You pro-abortion people are silly. If everyone has an abortion, there won't be any more babies. And then the human race will die out and the world will be ruled by monkeys. Or dolphins. Or maybe cockroaches.
Stunned is purple, I think.
Pete,
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Please get off of the internet so other people using your ISP may have more bandwidth and speed to use. Thanks in advance.
NOOOOOO!!!!
Don't pull the blog down!
PLEASE keep posting - the more you try to justify your posts, the harder I laugh.
Keep it up!
I'm sure this has been covered, but I don't think it has been recently, so why not uproot it?
For all you pro-choicers, what is your stance on minors having abortions? Should it be their right to choose, without interference, or should they have to have approval from their parents? If so, should one parent be sufficient, given that both are in the picture, or should a girl need to get consent from both? If so, why?
For those who don't believe consent should be required, what about notification? Should a girl be required to tell her parents? One or both? Why do you feel that consent is out of line but notification isn't?
For all those pro-lifers out there, what is your thought on this debate?
What is the law in your state? Do you want it changed, or do you support it? Why do you support it?
Just some food for thought. Hope this will encourage some interesting debates.
As I and many other said before, you rendered your 'points' moot when you chose to use a fake article as fact, on purpose or not, and refused to accept responsibility for that behavior.
How do you expect anyone to take you or your points seriously if you have so little respect for honesty and integrity?
If you are pro-choice and argue on the basis of bodily integrity, what difference do you see between a born an unborn child? Don't get me wrong, I am neither pro-life or pro-choice (I actually consider myself pro-rights as I address the issue of rights from both the perspective of the mother and the child and believe that there are certain scenarios which are permissable for abortion and others which are not).
But the way it seems to me, that those who argue on the basis of bodily integrity are taking a very Lockean stance on rights. Basically meaning that it's their body and they ought to be able to do with it as they please. However, the way I see it, the logical conclusion of the bodily integrity argument is that you would be able to kill the child after the birth as well, a process which in an attempt at irony to show arbitrary distinctions, I refer to as 'post natal abortion.' (As opposed to infanticide which just sounds mean.)
First I need to explain Locke a bit perhaps? The basic idea is that we own ourselves, and we own our labor, we mix our labor with land to produce property, or we sell our labor in order to garner a wage.
So, even if you bring the child to term, as it is as infant, you would be required to use your body both to physically care for it (breast milk and other forms of nurturing) as well as use your labor in order to garner as wage (or work the soil for food) to provide for the child. As such, your bodily integrity would still be compromised by this child.
The fact that the child is now outside of the womb seems a non-issue to me, because it makes an arbitrary distinction from before and after birth.
Why, now that the child is born, would you be morally obliged to find some alternative to caring for it such as an adoption agency? It seems to me that you wouldn't be, and that if you found yourself unable or unwilling to care for the child, you would be perfectly within your right to simply abandon and/or kill the now viable infant.
Granted, a more reasonable alternative like adoption remains, but it seems to me that it would not be required. Does this argument make sense?
Why, now that the child is born, would you be morally obliged to find some
I am enraged. I am enraged at the fact that some of you people dare to call yourselves pro women when you kill the young women inside of you.
How dare you. Don't you see that by supporting abortion you are killing young women. Children are a beautiful thing. ACCEPT THEM INTO YOUR LIFE.
meow -- Hmm. After "pete"s second comment that some people, esp. me, really ought to be aborted, I'm thinking maybe that pete ain't the real Pete. And unlike Pete, I can laugh and say, whoa, I think I got rooked.
We're chilled. No sweat. Believe me, read my blog and you'll see that my first reaction to a sacred cow is to tip it.
Peace Out
S L
To previous commenter: You have made a simple and moronic error with your application of "Lockean" principles. You have defined "bodily integrity" as "It's my body and I will do with it as I please", and then misapplied that definition to activities that have consequences OUTSIDE the body. Because of that misapplication, your whole argument falls to pieces.
Your attempt to cause unnecessary confusion is laughable.
Wait, is Pete's name really Peter Shinn? If it is, shit, sorry for all the nasty stuff I said before! The NAFB (Nat'l Assoc. of Farm Broadcasting) was sorry to lose you to Brownfield Ag News. That transcript regarding the investigation on BSE and reopening of the beef trade was motherfucking scintillating. I was on pins and needles. Like how was I supposed to know there was BSE in that feed? I needed to get my fucking BEEF ON and whitey was all froggy about that shit. You fucking told them, boy.
But if that's not you, everything I said previously stands.
Petey, does your mommy know you're playing on the computer again?
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This is insane.
Ok, Pete. It's clear that you thrive in some basic refuges of the very stupid and/or ignorant: taking quotes out of context, stoking the fires of pointless quarrels, and best of all, ignoring any salient points made against your beliefs. Regardless of a pro-life or 'pro-abortion' bend, your blog has degenerated into mindless name-calling, rather than saying anything salient people of a similar mindset might find vaguely interesting.
So, I'd like to re-suggest an earlier idea: just give it up. Restart under a different name. Fact-check a bit more next time. And please, if any one post gets over 600 comments, don't take that as a sign of lively debate, and don't resort to the dictionary to try to turn it around on people - just accept that you've become a temporary internet celebrity by way of your utter lack of a brain. Move on.
It frightens me that people like you exist in society.
Sincerely,
Ashley
http://hush.cc/forums/b1tches.jpg
Okay, so, first it's the fault of pro-abortion people wanting to "murder" children, for no good reason, right?
Let me pose to you a situation: A woman is raped. She gets pregnant. Why shouldn't she be allowed to get an abortion? She shouldn't have to go through the pain of pregnancy and giving birth because some guy thought she was sexy enough to rape, and she especially shouldn't have to raise the child of a man who raped her.
Oh, oh, don't tell me: "She can always put God's little gift up for adoption." It doesn't always work like that, dumbass. What if she's 14? There's a serious risk that it could KILL HER, if not at least doing some pretty serious damage. A woman's bone structure IS NOT PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF SAFELY BEING PREGNANT AND GIVING BIRTH AT THE AGE OF 18.
I don't think all abortions are justified, and I hope that it doesn't turn into another way to prevent birth, like the morning-after pill. If you know you don't want a baby, then use protection instead of abortion. Condoms have over a 99% rate of success in preventing pregnancy. I have friends that were almost aborted, and I'm happy that they weren't. But if a teenager's condom breaks or if somebody gets raped, they shouldn't have to go through that.
dbg - No, that argument makes no sense.
Wendy
But if the fetus were to develope into a boy, it would be okay?
Since almost all abortions happen in the first trimester, and you cant tell the sex before then, is flipping a coin acceptable to decide if is okay or not, or do you have some other preferred method.
And to the poster above who asked about parental notification, if the father rapes the daughter, does she have to get his permission before having an abortion?
Also, something I forgot to say earlier: This is my view, I know I can't force my view onto you, but I'd actually like to discuss this issue further. If you get the time, e-mail me, and we can talk about it.
Wendy | 07.12.06 - 1:28 am |
Interesting post Wendy, so how many crack babies, FAS babies, unwanted children of rape and incest, and children with life threatening genetic birth defects have you adopted and or pay for the care of, so far?
Just curious.
Here's a piece posted on the Onion, I would appreciate it if you can warn your readers about it. Apparently a foul mouthed lobster is going to hurt someone!
http://www.theonion.com/content/...28&
special=2002
Pete, why don't you come on over to my blog at http://www.inoculatedmind.com/p=?51 and I'll show you just what I can do with my public education. Would you prefer 3 surgically implanted rectums, or how about 4?
Regards,
Karl J. Mogel
Claim:
If you affirm that people have rights, you cannot support abortion.
Demonstration:
1. People have rights (Liberal premiss).
2. One of those rights is the right to life (Liberal premiss).
Who counts as a person?
3. A person is a living human (Contested premiss).
4. A foetus is a living human (Fact)
5. A foetus is a person (3, 4)
6. A foetus has rights (1, 5)
7. A foetus has the right to life (2, 6)
You might contest 1 and say that only citizens have rights, but you'd be incorrect. Children have rights without being citizens in the political sense (they're not able to vote, after all).
If anybody disputes point three, they have a battle on their hands. If they say 'A person is a living, born person' they need to demonstrate why unborn people don't count. Merely asserting that unborn people don't count is akin to me saying that darkies, females and paupers don't count. I don't have any real arguments to back up my assertion that darkies, females and paupers don't count in the same way that you don't have any real arguments as to why unborn people don't count. In fact, your argument demonstrates that you are prejudiced against the unborn.
So if you believe that people have rights, how do you justify abortion? (I just deny that people have rights. They don't. Nobody's been able to demonstrate that other people have rights, so why should I believe them?)
I'm proud of Pete, and I've never read this newspaper called The Onion.
Liam, Liam, Liam -- don't you know that condoms are against God's will as well? None of that naughty, naughty nookie except for making babies! And no teaching kiddies about sex, either, that will just make them want to do it. And we all know that if no one tells you about sex, you never ever ever figure out that it exists.
Seriously, it amazes me that after all this time, there are still some people (not you, Liam, I'm talking about the crazies, you sound sane) who still think that after all this time, they're going to be the first people in ten thousand ... oops, 'scuse me ... 5764 years to cure humankind of sex.
Hmm. Maybe if they just cure themselves of sex, the rest of us sane, reasonable, normal types can take over the gene pool?
Peace Out.
S L
After reading all of this, I just wanted to say that I've had a great time being on Viagra and people should consider it.
Who let Rush Limbaugh in here? (ref: Viagra comment)
I found the sharpest knives
and used them on her stomach
Then sliced her skin apart
And while she watched
Her hands covering her screams
I slowly pulled her fetus out
With first soft touches
She saw I had created
A way for her to live
Then tickled
And stroked and whipped
Her softest mound until she begged
For my long wet kisses!
And as she pulled against the ropes I say
My dreams were met within her moans that day!
[b]Merely asserting that unborn people don't count is akin to me saying that darkies, females and paupers don't count. I don't have any real arguments to back up my assertion that darkies, females and paupers don't count in the same way that you don't have any real arguments as to why unborn people don't count.[/b] In fact, your argument demonstrates that you are prejudiced against the unborn.
I'm proud of Pete, and I've never read this newspaper called The Onion.
Mike R. | 07.12.06 - 1:45 am | #
As one of the above, born, able to live outside the womb, folks you mentioned above "darkies, women, paupers", I would like to congratulate you for possible posting the most misguided load of crap I have ever encountered.
People here are not annoyed with Pete for his opinions, but with the fact that he is willing to be dishonest about his sources, and not show the humility when he was informed of his glaring error of posting a fake article as a fact. Do you support that? Dishonesty?
And I hope that one day some "female, pauper, darkie", on her way to a clinic to get an abortion after she was raped by her dad, gives you the what for you so richly deserve.
your nihilist pursuits into oblivion remind me of the fall of christianity,
only this time your messiahs took their own lives.
Mike R... thanks for demonstrating at great lengths how to misspell the word "premise".
Look it up. Then maybe you can practice using it.
Now, Pete. We love you! We want to help you. You are making yourself look terrible here. You're stooping incredibly low by insulting the "pro-aborts" by pointing out...
...foul language.
...on the Internet.
Hon, I don't know if you've... looked on the Internet lately. However, assuming you haven't, let me tell you - dirty words are used quite a bit.
I know. It's crazy. In an endless network of people and information, dirty words? Really?
If you want to be professional, attack the content, not the delivery.
P.S. Dirty words are really just words. There's nothing in the Bible condemning the use of any word except for, of course, God's name - in the O.T. It's really a sign of the times when our darkest cuss word is slang for sex. Being a prude is not the answer. I promise.
Dude,
You're like a one-man pro-choice viral marketing campaign.
Nice job.
Sheerings on: charging, stand back; nurse another shot of adrenalin. Charging, stand back: this forum as archive and/or living organism. You are about to put one hand on the negative terminal of a very, very large, virtual battery. It is imperative to convince yourself not to touch the other positive terminal at the same time.
I don't care. You'll never understand because you won't.
Your second attempt to save face only further proves that it is quite impossible to have any sort of a rational conversation with you. Maybe you should try the public school thing; perhaps then you could develop a clue. I mean, as hilarious as this is, it's terrifying that people just like you have esteemed positions in our government.
If you want to know why people are swearing, it's because they're appalled.
I really want you to post an entry saying "Chill, guys. I was totally messing with you all," because I can't imagine that anyone would truly be that idiotic. It's unfathomable.
Hey Pete, if you still read this...DON'T STOP ROCKIN' BUDDY!
"...If I were told that what I shall write will be read in twenty years by the children of today and that they will weep and smile over it and will fall in love with life, I would devote all my life and all my strengths to it."
-Tolstoy
So let me get this straight. According to Pete, college educated people are failed by our public education system because the ARE capable of understanding that The Onion is satire, and therefore NOT a real news source, yet Pete is qualified to make that assertion while failing miserably to comprehend that fact. So they are dumb because Pete was moronic enough to think The Onion is real?
I think we have now landed on the mobius strip of comedy.
FYI Pete, I think you are soon approaching enough critical mass to suppliant The Tron guy, as the comedy piñata of the year.
cheers,
You're a credit to the force, Mike R. Way to be understanding and help others contemplating the difficult question of whether to have an abortion.
This is a Christian-based belief, right? Turn the other cheek and such.
And you know what, some of us might just understand. While I highly appreciate the attack on my intelligence, I would choose adoption over abortion. You know, if that was my choice to make. Not quite equipped, you see. However, it is the shameless work of ignorant and narrow-minded souls like yourself that makes me shake my head in shame. Not only are you spreading idiocy, you are just two of the narrow-minded MEN spreading it!
If I were a woman, I might just GET an abortion to spite your bitter remarks telling me what to do with my body.
Moral of the story: Honestly, if you want to positively affect people, try being a little more compassionate and inclusive, and a little less hostile.
If I say "fuck", will you refer to me in your next post? I think thats the closest to ever becoming famous I will ever get.
Also, I love killing babies.
"Nice attitudes and nice language. The fact that some have posted multiple times is even more telling."
Josh | 07.11.06 - 9:28 pm
Oh really.. do share with the class at what it is "telling". We ar eall on pins and needles here in anticipaction.
"I don't care. You'll never understand because you won't." -- Mike R.
ZOMG, Mike R., are you Pete's brother?
Or... lover?
*shock*
Hmm, I don't know. I think they'd get in trouble for that
tired
I'd much rather listen to someone who can understand such high-minded concepts like "sarcasm", and "satire", regardless of whether or not they use cuss words, over someone who couldn't recognize them if he was bludgeoned in the face with them (as you have been). That you apparently can use "better" words than your detractors does not change the fact that you could not recognize obvious satire. If you can't tell something that is so obvious to everyone else here, why should you be trusted on *anything*? You clearly are not a good judge of what is and is not a good source. Please stop.
I think this article will finally settle this sticky abortion controversy once and for all: http://www.theonion.com/content/...tent/node/
34210
this is an adult talking to adults, we need to act it.
In the interests of laughing at right wing Christians, may I offer for your delectation an Australian comedian (posing as a journalist) attempting to chat up Fred Phelps junior:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=M...search=Westboro
The show's called 'The Chasers War on Everything' - Australia's gift to the world...
I forgot to add this, because it's strpng in my mind right now:
I'm becoming more aware of words, how a simple man who made an honest mistake can start the battles. How choosing one word instead of another can imply volumes of thoughts and emotions.
I guess this is partially due to his mistake more now, or that something else happened I don't notice.
William: This didn't happen because Pete misphrased anything. There also doesn't seem to really be a fight going on. It's mostly ridicule at this point.
This must stop!
Ad hominem attacks make you look REALLY classy. Good job.
Which ones? >_>
I think everyone's throwing around ad hominem at this point...
Oh Lord. This just keeps getting better. You are kidding, right?
Pete, why are you running from yourself now to new blog diggs?
Trying to remove the taint of your foolishness here?
I don't care what happened. I read about this in a Christian support website, and it's terrible how you're mocking this man.
I support Pete. Life!
I am a conservative who supports the repeal of Roe v. Wade.
You are making the intelligent, rational people in support of this position (yes, they do exist) look very bad.
I am ashamed of you.
You just just shut down your blog or at least delete these three embarrassing posts.
Your first mistake was not that bad. Not everyone gets satire or reads The Onion.
You could have also said, "OK. Sorry I missed the joke, but I don't think the Onion is that funny."
But these last two posts are ridiculous. Please admit you were wrong and try not to save face. You are looking worse and worse and are doing more damage for the pro-life movement than you ever anticipated.
Mike R. | 07.12.06 - 1:45 am Be sure to let me know where you can be reached in case anyone I know needs to force you to donate an organ against your will.
"Now there's a pro-abort meltdown for you." - Pete
Oh yes, Pete. HoooooWEEEEEEEEE!
That's gonna be my new phrase for everything.
I was linked here in response to the Onion issue, as well.
However, I'm not going to mock you or cuss. I am, though, going to announce loud and clear that while I support a woman's right to choose, I more strongly support creating a healthcare and education system than will make abortions seem archaic and unnecessary because there will be very few unwanted pregnancies.
That is to say, rather than rallying around already pregnant women and calling them murderers, we should be teaching our teenagers how to go about avoiding unwanted pregnancies (and diseases) without resorting to knee-jerk psuedo-christian "abstinance-only" education. And, rather than funneling all of the money into anti-abortion campaigning, why don't we pour that money into actually helping the women that choose to keep their babies by helping them raise their children or helping them find adoptive parents.
I believe that real Christians should be standing up for the protection of life, sir. However, I think real Christians would stand up for all life, not just the lives of fetuses. Why are you so quick to try to save the life of an unborn child, but so slow to save the life of a starving child? Why so quick to condemn a woman who has chosen to have an abortion, but so slow to condemn the unfair social system which probably put her in a position where she would abort her baby?
I've been poor all of my life. I've been in "Christian" communities all of my life. I've seen more christian money going towards billboards than soup kitchens. I've seen more money going into the hands of politicians than the hands of the needy. I've seen more indignation over unborn babies than love for one's neighbor.
And for that, sir, the pro-choice movement marches on.
Is the Peter Shinn mentioned here: http://www.charmaineyoest.com/ar...odblogcon_2005/
our very own Peter Shinn?
Billboards over Soup Kitchens and Marketing Over Morals.
Sounds like the current right wing movement to me.
My wife and I are in the process of adopting a child right now Pete. How many children have you adopted?
Please let us all know you sanctimonious twit.
hah your my new favourite blog. and no, you shouldn't be proud.
Just as we desginate a Poet Laureate for our country, I think it's high time we also designate an Idiot Laureate, a pesron whom all other idiots can aspire to.
Nutcase or troll, whichever you are, I have to ask:
Why can't you, and everyone like you, make an attempt to pull your heads out of your asses?
I don't care. You'll never understand because you won't. - Mike R. | 07.12.06 - 2:08 am
Wel we agree on something at least... you don't care. As to the later part, I don't understand someone wanting to nail their nuts to a 2" x 4" either. Your point?
cheers,
Btw... the monument to asshatery is inspiring to say the least.
Man, thassa ugly baby.
I'm just saying.
How dare you. Don't you see that by supporting abortion you are killing young women. Children are a beautiful thing. ACCEPT THEM INTO YOUR LIFE.
I agree. I think you should set an example by running out and adopting a bunch of non-white kids.
Not so excited about it now, are you?
United We Stand - Divided They Die???
I guess he means "the babies will die if we aren't united in the fight to stop abortion"
But, wow.
That's pretty creepy.
Have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?
No. they drink only vodka. Vodka turns you into a commie.
Maybe actually getting some turns you into a liberal, because your intelligence suggests you haven't even figured out what your penis is meant to do.
Hi there, Pete (is that your name? Sorry, I just saw some comments from your previous posts). I must admit, I don't usually do this, but you have really struck a chord with me. While your little incident with The Onion was quite humourous, I have been in a similar situation myself, once. When I first discovered the Onion, many moons ago, a friend of mine sent me a link to a rather brillantly written piece of subversive humour - I can't remember what it was about, but it was so well written I didn't know it was satire. Don't feel too bad, and don't listen to the idiots who call you names for holding a certain belief about human life.
The reason I'm commenting on your blog is thus: I was captured by some of your previous entries, and by your site (March Together) - your activism is surprising, and, indeed, I find your views regarding abortion decidedly foreign (which isn't surprising, afterall, being from your friendly-neighbour to the North). I am downright intrigued (and, admitedly, slightly taken aback) by your views, and I would really like to enter a round of discourse with you.
To that end, I even went ahead and created a blog right here on blogspot (I'm an LJ man, myself) with the hope that you'll agree to a (relatively) public discourse on the issue of abortion - all aspects of it. If you aren't interested in having a public discussion, I certainly understand. I wouldn't want to be demonized by the mob, either, especially for having a not-so-popular political view (which I hold my share of). But even then, I would happily engage in even private correspondence (I have included my email address with my comment, and it is also available upon request).
I look forward to (possibly) speaking with you about the ins and outs of abortion.
Have a good one.
P.S. Plesae forgive any spelling errors; it's late.
"The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system."
Can you please explain the logic behind this statement? I think my brain is about to explode trying to puzzle it out. You can't be claiming that college brainwashes people into believing that the Onion, which is a serious publication, is actually a humor magazine, since not all colleges are public, nor are college-age students usually called children (well, unless you want to be sarcastic). Nor can you be claiming that pre-college students are the brainwashed ones, since not all grade schools are public either. In fact, there is no level of education at which all students go through a state-funded program!!!!!!!
*splatter*
Oh, dear. That was just the sound of my brain exploding from the contradictions. I blame you and demand that you pay for the Lysol to clean up the mess.
I wish I was as smart as you, Petey boy.
Just getting through a door must be a constant source of challenge - even danger.
please, please don't run from us. this is your 15 minutes of fame Pete. don't hide in the root celler. no one's angry with you. if anything we're jealous. we'd all kill to have your blog traffic. we love you Pete. even down here in Panama we know and love Pete. you're famous.
you know Pete, i knew a guy just like you. he was pro-life, deeply religious, same quick wit, and facile mind. i think he's finally come out. last i heard he was a regular at one of the rest stops on I 95.
still attends church though. praise the lord.
United we stand - i'll kill a baby evey day until you return to the fold - Pass it on
How can anyone be this stupid, and yet manage to remember that they need to breathe in and out every so often?
Oh, oh, wow ...
I'm Australian and we have compulsory voting over here. I support it but ... if there's a single person in my country with an ignorance as deep-rooted and determined as yours, it really backs up the guy who commented on a major Australian news site the other day 'the public does not have the intelligence to be given the right to vote - give them a sack of grain once a month and tell them to be quiet'.
Please, for the sake of a world that has to put up with the president you elect ... don't vote!
Just admit that you made a mistake. You thought a parody article was for real. I'm a staunch pro-lifer and I'm telling you straight up, you are making yourself look foolish. Just admit your mistake.
Please read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Onion
You should pay especially close attention to the "The Onion taken seriously" section. As a conservative Christian myself I'm telling you to just let go of your pride and admit that you were wrong.
LOL Wow, I'm speechless. Even though I'm very much anti-abortion I still think it's hilarious you actually thought that article was for real.
STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!
There are two possibilities here:
1) Pete is so obtuse that he will never recognize or admit this silly article he read in The Onion was not a dead-serious statement of the True Feelings of the Pro-Abortion Left.
2) Pete is egging us along because his traffic has increased by a factor of 100 in the last 5 days. (99% of this traffic is from people who think he's a dipshit, but he's probably dredging up some fellow nutbags too.)
In either case, further elaboration on the nature of satire is a waste of time.
cymru_goch, let pete vote but please god, PLEASE, don't EVER let him breed.
Not only does Pete have honorable mention in the wikipedia article on the Onion, he also managed to get his very own entry there...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Mar...gether_For_Life
Pete,
You want a couple sentences without cuss words? Fine.
The Onion. Seriously. Check it out. Right now the headlining story is "U.N. Orders Wonka To Submit To Chocolate Factory Inspections." Also there's "Kim Jong Il Unfolds Into Giant Robot," "Bacon Good For You, Reports Best Scientist Ever," and "Clinton Emotionally Ready To Start Getting Blow Jobs Again."
You are not commenting on a person's real opinions, but a fake person's grossly exaggerated and humorous fake opinions.
Way to spread the word, brother. Very credible.
Seriously, if aborted fetuses could talk, they'd be calling Pete a douchebag.
I'd just like to retract my previous statements. I was kinda playing devil's advocate, until I realized that I wasn't advocating the devil, but an ignoramus.
Pete's lost his way. He lives in a world where he needs to impose his own values on other people. He needs to judge other people, to feel more secure about himself. It's not enough that he believes women who have abortions will go to hell, he has to be there jeering them on the sidelines to drown out the voices of his own sin.
He cannot accept that being pro-choice means allowing people to have responsibility for their own actions - because that would mean that he must be responsible for his own actions, and thus must face them. It is much easier to point and criticize than it is to walk the righteous path yourself.
I vote we leave Pete alone. He has a lot to work through, and a lot to learn. Yes, his blog post may have been posted in ignorance, but who are we to criticize? Certainly there are websites and newspapers that we have never heard of. For instance, just the other week I read a "satire" piece asserting that there actually were NO WMD's in Iraq! Ha ha that gave me a hearty belly-chuckle. Surely the Government, ordained by God, would not fall foul to such antics!
I'm proud of Pete, and I've never read this newspaper called The Onion.
Since you seem to feel that personal attacks disqualify oone from criticism of your satire/sarcasm mix up I will keep this general.
" Please Don't Breed" Ever.
i recommend you accept defeat. not only have you offended almost everyone in the political blogosphere; you are alienating those who are predisposed to support the hateful rhetoric you espouse. i also find the connection you establish between those who hold college degrees and our wonderful public school system somewhat spurious. after all, many universities and colleges are private institutions.
you should try to formulate more rigorous arguments.
"I am being sympathetic to you, go read the Onion sometime, I mean for laughs, you know?"
See, this is a problem for Peter the Stoopid. I'm willing to bet that he takes everything in life dead serious. I know some people who are nearly as dumb and fanatic as he is, and it's really creepy. When they sense that it's time to laugh for some reason, they make what they think is the appropriate sound "Ha.. haa ... haa" -- and they make a sort of smile, but it's as if they're guessing. Since Pete is unable to sense or even find the definition of satire, even after all the help he is receiving, I don't think he'd enjoy the Onion at all.
I'm just looking forward to seeing the Onion do a story about some blogger-loser who thinks the Onion is real...
I found a link for your homepage:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douchebag
Pete is egging us along because his traffic has increased by a factor of 100 in the last 5 days(snip)
ChrisC | 07.12.06 - 5:14 am | #
Try adding a few zeros to your "traffic factor". He might have had 10 visitors a day when he was at church four days ago.
Pete can't be a troll - a troll would have been intelligent enough to arrange for Blogads before this blog went radioactive....which leads me t believe he's serious...which leads me to believe he should be committed, or voted senator, depending on the state he lives in.
"It's fascinating to watch "enlightened" liberals JUMP to beat down someone who made a mistake."
Good one! The clueless jumping to the defense of the brainless. I love it.
Look. There is a difference between making a mistke -- like in spelling, for instance -- and making a blunder of this magnitude. It's like building a submarine with a screen door. But the real beauty of this comedy piece is the repeated attempts to defend the original mistake. "I meant to do that!" This is absolutely wonderous!
I hope it just keeps getting better. I really need to have a source of steady fun. Life is rather depressing without it, and The Daily Show only lasts 30 minutes at a time.
Douchebag
Was the end a joke? You do realise that 'colour me ' is a fairly common phrase? Or are you trying to be clever/funny?
I hope you don't have children.... the last thing the world needs is more idiots of your calibre.
I beg of you... condoms... oral contraceptives... suicide... whatever it takes, just please don't ever reproduce.
Hi.
I aced all my state school exams. I have an undergraduate degree, and am working on my postgraduate. I can go an entire day without swearing, and I am pro abortion.
I don't know what I find more insulting, that you instantly label me as inadequate, or the fact that you consider all school children brainwashed.
The point (I think you will find) is that PEOPLE should have the CHOICE. So being pro-abortion is infact the very opposite to brain washing.
This is not to say that having an abortion isn't a difficult physical or mental experience. With a positive attitute, and support of friends and family a person can cope with this event. Its people like you who make support from friends and family the hardest thing to seek.
Ask yourself this. If a friend came to you and said she was seeking an abortion, would you a>show her the wickedness of her ways and force her to have a child which she does not want. b>Tell her she is not a true friend and leave her to deal with the experience by herself or c>do the christain thing, support your friend in her time of need. Find her the best, safest and cleanest abortion clinic. Finally, be there after the event to help her deal with the emotional turmoil.
I know where my loyalty lies.
I've been raised in a completely different school system in the UK. You're still possibly the most abhorrent and dim witted being I have come across on the internet recently.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What a dumbfuck.
What a slimy twisted unintelligent neckless freak you are. Keep writing.
CLEARLY THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TO BLAME YOU ARE SO RIGHT!
What i love the most, is that you run to the high ground, while running a one sided hate blog, calling these posts as 'rude'
YEP WE ARE UNCIVILIZED BEASTS, HERE TO CALL YOU A DOUCHEBAG AND PROMOTE MANDITORY ABORTIONS ON ANYTHING WITH A UTERUS
I love even more that you keep going.
You made youself look stupid by 'biting' on a satire piece, you now have gone on to generalize anyone as pro-life = thrives on personal attacks
it could be the seven fetuses i eat with my cornflakes, but i think i am seeing a flaw or two in that stunning piece of logic.
you made yourself look really really stupid, not an internet first.
at least you keep going so you can undermine your 'movement'
"I am now close to totally convinced that March Together for Life is, in itself, a satirical site."
He has archives going back over a year, and this blog is linked from the archives of other pro-life sites. If it's a hoax, it's an incredibly elaborate one.
http://marchtogetheragainst.blog...t.blogspot.com/
I think at this point it's no longer funny and we seriously need to consider the possibility that you are not mentally sound....
I'll bet you now qualify for an entry in the Guiness Book of Records for most times being called a moron, idiot, stupid, or any word despribing your lack of brain ability.
Yep. Women who get abortions are promiscuous baby-murderers. "College grads" are brainwashed idiots full of propaganda and hate. Let's see some more Free Republic stereotypes. There are plenty, you know.
Hitlary Clinton had Vince Foster murdered.
The evil lie-beral press is full of traitors.
Demoncrats hate America and love Al-Qaeda.
All people on welfare are just too lazy to work.
Oil is being produced in the center of the earth in an endless biological process and will never run out!
Global warming doesn't exist!
Things are going just great in Iraq!
And of course...
George W. Bush is the greatest President ever.
The hallmark of critical thinking is the ability to examine one's preconceived ideas.
"It's not what we don't know that gets us in trouble. It's what we know that just ain't so."
Your twisted, jabbering screed is monkey-like in it's imbecility.
Your reaoning is as cryptic as a nun in a welding mask.
It is less enlightening than it is emetic.
I find your capacity for creating cheap, shoody amusements on the Internet to be mildly endearing.
Perhaps you could write for the Onion.
Between this blog entry and the two Onion-related ones, including your pathetic attempt to save face (how's the cognitive dissonance going, by the way?), I am still absolutely in awe of the fact that yes, people like you are allowed to vote.
"I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Democracy just doesn't work." - Kent Brockman
What I enjoy most about this is the fact that this fellow so utterly deserves every last bit of derision he's getting.
Anybody as callous and self-centered as Pete here, who so wholly fails to underestimate the gravity of any abortion decision, and who is so hateful towards women who choose to make that decision in a way he disapproves of, absolutely deserves every last bit of slander he gets for taking that misconception of such a serious issue to this extent.
"Comeuppance", Pete. You don't seem to know what satire is, but do you understand "comeuppance"?
Knowing about The Onion isn't a matter of intelligence, it is a matter of exposure. Never having heard of it and not realizing that it was a satirical site does NOT make you stupid.
"This piece is funny specifically because it is so completely ridiculous that anybody would ever be psyched to have an abortion. Unfortunately, in your mind you have so thoroughly demonized your opponents at this point that you actually believe that pro-choice Americans are excited about getting an abortion."
I think Brian24 hit the nail on the head with that one, Pete. There's where your mistake lies.
Warped perception.
I honestly have no idea what you can do to fix this. Talk to women who have gone through or will go through abortions without letting your preconceived notions get in the way, perhaps?
I don't know. But I really do feel sorry for you.
Not because hundreds of people have posted comments, but because you can read an article like that and actually think it's real. That you can actually view women the way you seem to, that you seem to see all pro-choicers as baby killers, not as moral people who are trying to make the world into a better place.
I suggest you look at the other side of the argument for a bit, get to know your "enemy", and figure out that everything isn't so black and white.
Also, I think it is rather rude of you to completely ignore the people who have been trying to post civilized comments to you, and claim that all people who are pro-choice "struggle to say a sentence or two without cuss words." This is the internet, and your blog is plastered all over joke sites. Of course you are going to be bringing in the younger crowd, where "cuss words" are just a part of the language, not a vulgarity.
Saying "pro-aborts claim such brilliance, yet struggle to say a sentence or two without cuss words." would be like someone who is pro-choice reading your blog then going off and saying "pro-poverty jerks claim they know what's best for women they have never met, but they can't even ever tell reality from fiction." Not exactly fair, is it?
I love the way that pretty much every comment here is well written, well argued or just plain funny, yet he claims "It's also funny to me how pro-aborts claim such brilliance, yet struggle to say a sentence or two without cuss words."
Pete, I know you will not understand this, but the article you quoted was fictional, and quite blatantly so. The fact that you can't tell that is very scary, and your attempts to save face just back up the fact that you still don't understand it.
Dear Pete,
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You are conclusive proof that there really is no god. Thank you for clearing that up.
"The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system. Of course the person who wrote that probably only knows people like him, rude, nasty & thrive on personal attacks."
I'm still trying to figure out how some random person's claim that they didn't know any college educated people that weren't aware of the Onion proves public schools brainwash children. Logic does not computer.
Pete,
Please write more, but don't come down from your horse to do so. It'll ruin it.
You can argue your way out of this without admitting you're stupid. Really you can. Keep going, son.
Tom
Sometimes, it is just easier to admit you made a mistake and took a joke seriously and laugh along with everyone else.
That way, we're all laughing with you instead of at you. It's kind of pointless to get so defensive.
Thanks for the laughs!
I'm amazed you can criticize the education of others when you could not even tell that the Onion was satire. Yes, satire, without quotes. You did admit do believing it was true. How sad you criticize our school system, teachers who are trying hard to teach basics in overpopulated, underfunded school systems.
I also do not understand where you have come up with the idea that our children are brainwashed in the schools. What is this idea based on? That not everyone agrees with you? Perhaps you would like to brainwash everyone to be a pro-life supporter. Many of us choose to make our own decisions based on freedoms that you have no right to deny.
That's the way to go, Pete. Stay the course. Whatever you do, don't admit that you've made a mistake. That would be fatal.
For some incomprehensible reason, some commenters seem to have an issue with the ad hominem attacks directed against Pete.
Hello? When the problem is the homo (Latin, not English), of course the attacks are ad hominem.
People across the world, no matter what their views on abortion, are uniting and marching together for Pete's sterilization.
This is very much an issue de homine.
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absolutly golden. Wow you are dumb.
you might actually have a chance of convincing someone with your 'argument', if you chose to comment on reality as opposed to fiction and parody.
Why is it that people like you only care about children before they are born? You seem not to care about a child's welfare after it is born.
::adjusts monacle::
Sir, would you be so kind as to please die in a fire forthwith?
Sincerely,
The Internets
It's also funny to me how pro-aborts claim such brilliance, yet struggle to say a sentence or two without cuss words.
Just because one is brilliant doesn't mean one is polite. Putting that aside, it's more funny how people who can't even spell words correctly are more worldly than you.
By the way, if pro-choice people are pro-abort, what does that make pro-lifers? Pro-bisexuals? After all, premarital sex IS going to happen whether or not you approve of it, and you don't approve of contraceptives. In your world, if women don't want to have unwanted pregnancies, they're going to have to turn to alternatives other than men. As sexy as that might be, that would also leave men with a serious case of blue balls. Especially with people getting married later and later. I suppose they could turn to other men, and maybe that's what you really want.
The last person said "I don't know any college educated folks who don't know the site", which proves my point that our children are brainwashed in the public school system.
Yeah, knowledge is a bitch. It's a much more pleasant world when people are ignorant.
What this actually indicates is that you were homeschooled, which is fine, except that it means your perception of the world was shaped entirely by your parents, and that could be a good or bad thing.
"Color me stunned ... douchebag"
His name is douchebag? ...& what color is "stunned"?
If this is your attempt to make fun of him, you have failed. While grammatically improper, what he typed is colloquial, and easy to understand. But in case you don't:
"Color me [fill in blank]" is a phrase, used to indicate the speaker's mood. It's actually more of a Southern phrase, so I'm surprised you don't recognize it.
And "douchebag" would be you, apparently. The Urban dictionary defines it as:
douchebag
n. fr. "douche", fr. French, fr. Italian "doccia"
...
5. An individual who has an over-inflated sense of self worth, compounded by a low level of intellegence, behaving ridiculously in front of colleagues with no sense of how moronic he appears.
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Seriously, stop trying to defend yourself. No one else is. Other pro-lifers like yourself aren't speaking up for you because even they know you're being stupid. Most of them are nice enough not to join in on the bashing because you're one of them, but they're not standing up for you either.
Still, I offer you a point of consolation: you're not the only person to fall for The Onion.
http://www.wired.com/news/cultur.../1,63048-
1.html
But before you take too much refuge in that, it should be noted that the people who DO fall for it also seem to be conservative folks like yourself. Conclusion: a conservative upbringing produces gullible people. Or at least people who don't try to verify facts before jumping to poorly-formed conclusions.
By the way, what is "Ejumacated"? At first, I thought you were just trying
...blasted 3000 character limit.
By the way, what is "Ejumacated"? At first, I thought you were just trying to be silly by misspelling "educated," but you didn't even get the phonetics right.
Incidentally, why did you edit your July 10th entry, removing the part where you admitted to not realizing the Onion article was fake?
Were you hoping to provoke more comments of "You don't understand that Caroline Weber does not exist," or have you decided that everyone else in the world is lying?
Whoops, nevermind. I remembered the location of the admission incorrectly.
Needless to say, a few people wanted to let me know that I was a dolt for thinking that her article was real. As a matter of fact, call me a dolt, because in the beginning I really did think it was real
You always thought the article was real..
Seriously, what does public school "brainwashing" have to do with going to college? You do know that people from private school and from public school to to college, right?
Yes, it's true that many college-educated people can understand the humor of the Onion. So can many others who are not college educated. Clearly, you fall into neither category.
Whatever education you might possibly have received did not adequately equip you to understand human communication.
But wait, it can't be your teachers' fault. You probably just didn't get it...or maybe you were brainwashed.
(Note: My name is not "or maybe you were brainwashed.")
Fight on Brother Pete,
Don't know if someone already said it, but there's a great new newscaster out there, who just gets it, and is standing up for us. You should check out Stephen Colbert.
Somewhere in the deepest Bible Belt, a turnip truck has lost a passenger.
Please just go to the source: www.theonion.com. Read what's there. It is a 100% comedy/satire (no quotes on the satire) website.
This MUST be a joke. I can't accept that anyone THIS stupid can even operate a computer. If its not a joke then its really shamefully stupid, I hope it lasts...
Um, excuse me, sir... The public education system IS flawed, although I never saw a teacher support or oppose the option of choice. But college doesn't generally mean a "public school"... unless you're raised by parents who couldn't afford to help you with your school work because they were working two jobs a day and STILL won't be able to help you pay for college. Abortions prevent people from ruining their own lives as well as yet another life... the only things they kill are squirmy little womb-rats. It's not a child, it's a blastula.
I know one girl who *didn't* get an abortion. She gave the kid to a nice lesbian couple in Massachusetts. What do you think of that, Herr Neocon?
YOU SPELLED EDJUCATED WRONG IN YOUR POST TITLE.
The funniest part? There are STILL some people writing serious comments apologizing for profanity and trying to explain to this guy that the Onion is satire.
Seriously, people, this guy is a really, really dumb person with his mind completely made up. There is no point in making complex, compelling arguments to him. He won't listen.
Friend of a friend of my cousin told me that Marge Simpson had an abortion, once.
Better change your post header, post-haste.
- Mr. Gittes
Hey, yo, Petey Boy...
I was educated in the public school system, attended a private, religious university and fully believe in my right to end a pregnancy if I so desire. I am not "pro-abortion" nor am I "pro-death" (except in certain cases where the judge should exercise derringer justice and just shoot the convicted from the bench) but I am "pro-choice" and "anti-stupid."
You, sir, if you truly believe the things you have written in what passes for blog in your tight-minded little world, you are dangerous and should really seek psychiatric help ASAP. Request a mental status evaluation that should include an IQ test.
Oh, and hey! look at that, no cuss words littering up your blog!
Fuck, I knew I was forgetting something.
Your parents should have stuck with anal sex. Then you wouldn't be here. Because you are the reason people have abortions in the first place; so they won't end up with scumbag kids like you.
Oh, and by the way... Next time one of you right-wing pricks decides to tell my lupus-afflicted, PCOS-suffering wife that she's a sinner because after her birth control failed she needed an abortion for physical and mental health reasons, you're going to wish you HAD been aborted.
aside from all the back and forth, your site is getting alot more traffic so on some level you should be happy that you are completely oblivious, just don't become obsessed with trying to 1 up all these people, you're just digging yourself in deeper.
Is this what your whole site is gonna be about now? Trying to prove how you are right and everone else is wrong, oh wait, i guess it really didn't change that much.
If I were you I would be psyched, oh wait, if i were you i would have know idea what the fuck is going on.
Oh man, this is one of the most entertaining blogs I've ever seen. Thanks!
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Petey, Petey, beat-your-meaty,
listen, sweetheart, I think you may be doing your religion grievous and untold harm by being, you know, in any way associated with it or its practice.
So, I'm gonna give you a wee bit of advice: have you considered Scientology? No, no, hear me out. 'Cause they believe in all kinds of wicked wacky shit and they especially like people who uncritically fall on their swords rather than admit failure, defeat, illogic, inconsistency, or general absurdity of premise.
You, my friend, have demonstrated a stunning ability to hang tough'n'stupid under withering intellectual fire, so...g'wan down to your local Scientology office and take a FREE TEST that should get you on the right path.
Oh, and Petey darling, please explain to us all some time how exactly you're able to stick your foot in your mouth while your head's jammed irretrievably up your ass.
Smooches.
Stop before you embarrass yourself
Interesting, I didn't notice that he had edited the July 10 post. Doesn't matter, there are enough comments to prove otherwise.
I would like to publically congratulate Pete. Why? Simply because if the FBI wasn't reading his journal prior to this, they sure are now. Pete has displayed such a level of ignorance in his rants that he could possibly be a danger to society. Think Eric Rudolph dangerous.
I am now removing your bookmark. Your level of incompetence is no longer asmusing, because you obviously refuse to learn. One thing I've learned over the years is that people only hate in others what is true about themselves. You hate what you perceive as the lack of education in others because you see it in yourself, and that's just sad and instills no sympathy in me.
So I just won't visit this site anymore. You're not worth my time.
You can try to run, but your humiliation will always catch up to you.
http://marchforlife.blogspot.com/
Does it hurt to be that stupid? Just asking.
Sir, if I may?
If this is supposed to be a satire blog, then indeed, you are doing wonderfully. Your over-the-top reaction to the Onion article and to the commenters is hilarious. You take the rabid "pro-life" group and are currently mocking them mercilessly. If that is what your goal is, kudos! You've achieved it!
However, if this is meant to be serious, you've now undercut the validity of your blog. Perhaps you had some good points in the past. Perhaps you were right in some aspects. The instant you chose an article from The Onion, you lost that validity. It proved that you are unable to check your sources, and will believe anything as long as it makes you look good. The Onion is a well known satirical news source, and simply by looking around the site should have given it away. If this blog is serious, it's time to shut it down. You will not be taken seriously from now on.
I hope, for your sake, this is a joke.
Please execute yourself, you are no rationalization for what you do.
Oh boy, Petey boy is a coward! He can dish it out but it appears he just can't handle it! His new blog, while it has a spot for comments, won't allow ANY account with ANY username. Petey just wants to rant without having to explain himself or have anyone else tell him he is batshit insane crazy. I think he's dangerous in the Eric Rudolph type of way.
I know the truth has got to hurt, but really, the first step to solving any problem is admitting you HAVE a problem.
I know we all know Petey boy is an idiot, but now we also know he is a coward. It just gets better and better.
Oh, for...
How many ways does this need to be said before you get it? You have egg on your face. You made an ass of yourself. You got pwned by teh internets.
Kindly stop trying to make excuses about how everyone is SO MEAN and just admit you screwed up. You gave everyone a good laugh at your expense. It happens.
On second thought - don't bother. I'm having way too much fun watching you rail at e-comments in an attempt to redirect attention from your regrettable lack of anything resembling a sense of e-humor.
you're silly.
Hmmmm...I graduated from the public school system and I understand the basics of english grammer.
Me fail english? That's unpossible.
Look, I gotta ask the obvious - The "editorial" that got you so worked up originally was bookended by "editorials" supposedly authored by Sting ("You Know, I Used to Be Kind of Cool Once") and a cherry pie. How did that not tip you off? Or do you just run random google searches for abortion testimonials to foam at the mouth over?
I am truly astounded. Never in my wildest dreams did I believe that someone could be so unintelligent. I must ask, did you take high school English classes? Did your instructor ever teach you the basics of writing and word play? I suppose not, for that to happen, you would have been taught at an institution that believed in actually educating children instead of training them to obey and worship The Man. But, it is not too late. Try your local library!
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Pete, you have undiagnosed Asperger's syndrome. It's an autistic spectrum disorder. Look it up.
You obviously have a very hard time understanding where other people are coming from and empathizing with them.
Please get help.
"It's also funny to me how pro-aborts claim such brilliance, yet struggle to say a sentence or two without cuss words."
Pete, here's a lesson for you. The number of curse words in a sentence actually has no correlation with the level of intelligence of that sentence. The CONTENT of the sentence stands separate from the STYLE of the sentence.
Here's an example:
You, Pete, are a fucking douchebag, a fucktard, and a massive fucking embarassment to America, humanity, and your movement.
That sentence is true. Its truth is not affected by the presence of the curse words.
Now go fuck yourself Pete.
Christ, I've NEVER come across someone with absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR...until now.
Way to go, Pete!
Pete, you have undiagnosed Asperger's syndrome. It's an autistic spectrum disorder. Look it up.
You obviously have a very hard time understanding where other people are coming from and empathizing with them.
Please get help.
Anonymous | 07.12.06 - 1:08 pm | #
I think Anon is absolutley correct in his/her diagnosis.
Colleges aren't part of "our public education system," and I think it's the small, private colleges like Bob Jones University that do most of the brainwashing. You're seriously overcompensating for your lack of any wit or sense of humor by railing against the "agenda" presented in the satire piece you so obviously misinterpreted. Hope you enjoy your newfound status as a laughingstock!
Satire? What satire?? Show Ms. Weber and her godless commie pals that we won't stand for their type here in the U.S. of A. with t-shirts, beer steins, posters and more!
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Pete. You made a mistake, and denying it is only going to get more scorn heaped on you. Do you get it? Scorn from both sides of the aisle.
I never thought I'd see the day.
Where do you worship? Landover Baptist?
Holy mother, you funny.
If I let my doggie bang me, and get "preggers" would you like to buy the half-puppy for $500? I could use the cash.
@ Christy Lee Smythington
I'd pay for the video.
Coward.
We can still find the comments thread. Sticking your head back up your rear end will not change reality. Nor will pretending it was all a joke.
Pete, you can't hide from it now. Just fess up. Or lose the little human dignity you had left.
Oh, I forgot.
You are an idiot.
dead babies are just FUNNY!!!!
I find abortion rather distasteful (anyone who's seen a premature baby should feel the same, I'd hope), but damn... people like you make pro-life people look like retards and discredit those of us who can think. Acting fanatical does not win anyone to your side of the argument.
Oh, did someone suggest a Google bombing? I'm all for it!
What phrase should we use? "Clueless douchebag" seems to be untaken.
The problem here is that first, he quoted a very well known parody newspaper called The Onion under the impression that it was a real article.
His response to that article clearly shows that he took the article seriously. Then, after realizing that it was a parody, he reversed gears and tried to play the "I knew it was a joke all along you idiots!" angle and fell flat on his face in doing so.
He's completely destroyed his credibility. If he really cared about the cause he's fighting for, he would turn out the lights and let someone else carry the flame.
The good thing about the internet is that, if you truly fark up, you can pick a new moniker and start a new blog and carry on forward.
Learn from your mistakes and be a man...............
Dude...just give up already. I do not think you can possibly make it worse for yourself.
When the hole gets too deep, stop digging.
Ha ha Pete. Moan all you like about vile lefties, at least they know what is satire and isn't sarcasm. Oh look you've only hidden your comments not turned them off. But hey congrats on making FARK; too bad it's due to your pwn1ng yourself.
Pete's made it to wikipedia fame:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Mar...gether_For_Life
Someone removed the section on Wikipedia's article about The Onion which mentions this, with the lame excuse: “rm [removed] blog stuff, this section just lists published/broadcasted incidents.”
But it will remain on the site for posterity: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/
index....taken_seriously
Y'know, what's entertaining isn't the mistake that Pete made (the funny factor wore off after comment #1000). It's the dozens upon dozens of commenters who claim to be more intelligent than he is, as if reading the Onion gives anyone a claim to brilliance.
Read a book. Develop your command of the English language, or whatever language you decide to communicate using. Arguments and disagreements are a part of life, but there is a difference between disagreeing with someone's point of view and stating why you believe the way you do, or just thoughtlessly littering the comment section with profanities and insults.
Let's try to be a little more mature and offer up some common decency. Make your argument with some sense, or hold your peace.
He posted his initial response (with the made-up conversation on another site:
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/arti...6/07/
satire.php
and if you have a typekey ID, you can still comment there.
Have fun!!!
Comment on the whole series here:
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/arti...ves/commentary/
You'll be happy to know that I plan on donating profits from the sale of this merchandise to non-profit orgs such as Planned Parenthood and the ACLU. Thanks Pete!
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dim sum | 07.13.06 - 11:52 pm | #
You're not very smart. There, I didn't cuss. You dug yourself so far into the hole; geez. If you admited from the beginning that you made a mistake and not grasped so far up your anus to defend your statements you'd be astronomically more worthy of respect. As it is, you're dumb as a rock.
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