mentalblog.com comments:
Hi,
I have a friend who's active in European Jewish affairs and (based on some of the well known political battles currently being fought in Europe and the FSU) he asked me the following question:
"I am almost sure that the Lubavitcher Rebbe gave clear instructions in the
fifties and sixties that his emissaries were shlichim and that they should not to become mainstream rabbis or get involved with gerus or local
rabbinnics. Also never to become chief rabbis.
Can you possibly direct me to this source-quotation as the chabad movement have now become a quasi political movement throughout the world financed by oligarchs attempting to take over communities, oust local rabbis, appoint themselves as chief rabbis wherever they can."
Any ideas?
The Lubavitcher Rebbe told Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu that Berel Lazar was to be the chief rabbi of Russia. And this was in the fall of 1992!
And Closeted: is this something R' Eliyahu wrote publically?
Tzemach,
Don't hold your breath. The JTA won't fess up unless the Forward or the Jewish Week out them. Chances are that won't happen, because both do the same thing as the JTA. In the business, this is called rewrite. Most AP stories are rewrites of local media reports.
""I am almost sure that the Lubavitcher Rebbe gave clear instructions in the fifties and sixties that his emissaries were shlichim and that they should not to become mainstream rabbis or get involved with gerus or local rabbinnics. Also never to become chief rabbis."
I was told the same thing. I also know he told Chabad in Minnesota not to get involved with hechsherim.
Actually as far as Berl Lazar is concerned the Rebbe told him to come back from Russia (I think in 1991) and to learn dayanus and rabbanus so he sat for a year in kollel. He had no idea wh but he saw later...
Shmarya (aka jews for mendel) don't speak stupidity. The only one who is involved in hechserim is Rabbi Zeilengold and he had clear horaos to get involved.
Tzemach -- JTA clearly also spoke to Karpov. One possibility is that he told them what he told you in fairly similar words and that's why it all sounds familiar. I'm not saying thats for sure what happened and that JTA definitely didn't plagiarize, but the above scenario is quite common.
Miriam, I considered the possibility but we both interviewed in Russian. I paraphrased a lot. So I know for sure that expression like scratch, etc. are not a result of him telling both the same thing. But you know what I am going call Karpov and ask him and it will be pretty clear about the extent of the interview. Also please note the my third example was from my conversation with his wife Nadia, not Karpov.
And who gets the Pulitzer?
When the "shliach" arrived in a New Englsnd city in the alte 1940's to start a day school. He too promised community leaders not to enter the rabbinate, well sure enough a few years alter he accepted a pulpit.
Not that it's "Jewish media" but COL.ORG.IL and chabadnik.com have ripped off material from my blog and a few other places I've posted to in the past. Of course, without credit.
I am the JTA editor who edited the story that Tzemach says was plagiarized. We did no such thing. The first line he cites is similar, but I wrote it while editing the piece, and I had never seen his site until Tuesday, after our story went out over our wires. (It did allow me to see his fascinating blog, though, and I’m grateful for that!) As far as the other citations, the only similarities they contain are factual ones that Rabbi Karpov must give any people who interview him. There are only so many ways to say the same thing.
Peter, you told me that you were going to ask Lev Krichevsky if he read my blog before his interview. Did you ask him? What did he say? I am gald you like the blog.
See my response:
http://www.mentalblog.com/2005/0...ous-
claims.html
Commenting by HaloScan
