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Let's get something out of the way now. I know who R. M.M. Vitebsker is and I read the Tanya.
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07.30.05 - 11:11 pm | #
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tzemach
i'll give you one line of thought and that is that you'll find
an interesting phenomena regarding the rebbes nesius:
we find a great contrast in many aspects of the rebbes relationship to chassidim going through the decades.
if you go back to the 50's you'll notice how the rebbe was very accessible and approachable to the people on a very personal and heimishe level. in the decades to follow we find the rebbe becoming more and more detatched and a lot less approachable.
compare the fifties to the eighties where people were in complete and total awe of the rebbe and you'll see a total contrast.
now if you'll notice, the rise in shlichus directly correlates to this. compare the number of people who went on shlichus in the fifties to the eighties and nineties and once again we see the same contrast.
in ten years after the rebbe left tis world shlichus became such a hot item - a must - to the point where more people left on shlichus in a ten year period then in a forty year period! and by the way its not showing any signs of slowing down yet.
in other words the less the rebbe had to do with chassidim on a personal basis the more he achieves, to the point where more is being achieved after his death than during his lifetime.
does this mean that you were a casualty of war here? colatteral damage? in my opinion you werent. or you didnt have to be. but thats just my opinion. like i said, its one line of thought
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07.31.05 - 3:24 am | #
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Just found your blog--I like it. Someone *should* take Chabad "leaders" to task when they're embarrassing the rest of us. You should check out the writings of Hank Magitz at "The Pig of Death" -- Even better, the story "Wagging the Rebbe" by author Clifford Meth. It's hilarious and right on the money.
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07.31.05 - 3:56 am | #
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Morty, i am not taking anyone to task. I believe in a free market and the powers of competition.
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07.31.05 - 7:09 am | #
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sto pratzent, it seems that fundamentally the entire idea of a Tzaddik is to have G-ds representation in this world, a representation that soothes our pain of separation from our heavenly father. But when a Tzaddik decides to play the role of G-d and conceals his presence, then it would contradict his job description. But I am not here to decide what is a Tzaddik's job description. I am only highlighting my personal experience that is the key to my approach and perception of the RaMaSH.
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07.31.05 - 7:18 am | #
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truth be told i dont really know what your experience was.
granted, for hadracha and the like the rebbe very much pushed mashpi'im, but there were ways to communicate with the rebbe directly. people wrote. i dont see how he made himself totaly inaccessible. i dont see how he compares to the kotzker. (and mind you, even kotzker chassidim had their way of communicating with him)
it helps that kiruvim in chabad - at least during the rebbes years - was never really viewed as something positive. the idea was that if you got it you needed some attention.
sto pratzent |
07.31.05 - 12:11 pm | #
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it's about feeling sto, not reason.
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07.31.05 - 1:01 pm | #
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i was trying to address the issue of the tzaddik concealing himself in the same manner as the a-mighty.
i'm talking cheftza. if youre talking gavra here, then its a different issue entirely
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07.31.05 - 3:29 pm | #
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Hit it on the head Tzemach, this is about feeling. Which is why I can only read your blog and wished you felt otherwise, but otherwise leave you in silence.
guravitzer |
07.31.05 - 8:57 pm | #
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