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the building with the construction fence looks like it was build post war, it may be the spot of the building, but i doubt it is the actual one.
au contraire zuravitzer, I don't see any definitive post war architectural elements. In fact it is reasonable to believe that window treatments are the original with clear Jugendstil influences. Jugendstil was the rage in prewar Europe and got introduced to America as Art Deco.
The buildings that "might be" post war are the one to the left of 9 Rue de Boulard and at the corner of the block to the right.
I agree with you on the corner building.thats probably from the 70's.
As far as 9 is concerned, compare it to the building to its left. Look at the balconies on the 3rd floor. look at the ornaments on the second floor - thats prewar building. Having spent a lot of time in France I doubt the 9 building was around in the 30s
The building to the left (or right from where we stand) is at least turn of the last century building. Nothing in the Rebbe’s house architecture says it is post war. It looks like a 20s building.
My previous post is a little confusing: the more modern building to the left of the pic is #7 the one on the other side of 9 is #11. So i was saying that 7 is definetly newer, 11 is definetly prewar. 9 is lacking some prewar features, including (not mentioned in previous post) the attics appartment that are found in 11
At the end of the day our argument is pointless, your friend in paris can call the Mairie of the 14th, and find out the age of the building. Or if i remember early enough i can call myself
Zuravitzer, no offence but I suggest you stick to subjects you actually understand.
Give them a call. Do you want to bet $90?
You are right that I am not an expert in architecture. I dont want to bet, i don't know the answer. This why i said that i would like to find out from the city.
and thanks for posting those additional pics...
the Rebbe had at least one additional address in paris (or at least received mail there) it was an address shared with Walter Benjamin. i do not know if they lived there at the same time.
Oh no, not another Walter Benjamin story. This is all we are going to say now. Not in the mood to rehash the argument.
Tell us a Walter Benjamin story. I have never heard one with the Rebbe before.
Tzemach, this is off topic but since you have addressed this before I would like to respectfully ask if you can verify the following info from your Moscow sources.Apparently Rabbi Pinchas Goldshmidt chief rabbi of Moscow has been told by the Russian goverment that the reason he was barred from entry into Russia is that he is a 'security' risk.Since this is so patently absurd, it seems to point clearly to members of a rival Jewish association who view Rabbi Goldshmidt as a challenge.Rabbi Goldshmidt is not affilated with Lubavitch at all........(this waS reported on the Israeli chadrey charadim site off of hydepark)
I called the Mairie, which gave me a number of CADASTRE, which documents old buildings and maps. They claim that 9 is from 1860 and 11 is from 1910... i told him that from the pics i have it looks like 11 is much older than 9 and he just shruged it off. I'm still looking into it.
Zuravitzer, pay $90, and stick to subjects you understand. bottom line it is the rebbe's house. ask her about 7, i am curious.
OK, let me come clean with "clear Jugendstil influences" - BS. But as I said: I don't see any definitive post war architectural elements.
So here we see where the Rebbe lived in Paris. Americans don't realize how poor, that is, poverty stricken Paris was up until the late 60s or 70s, and I am referring to homes where the Yidn lived. One of our friends lives in the Marais Quarter, near the Pletsl [Rue des Rosiers]. She is a refugee from Algeria, and back in the 60s the apartment did not have an indoor toilet. One has since been installed. Of course, old apartments there for most people were very small by American standards, although not much smaller than in NYC. I have to assume that this applied to the Rebbe's apt too. Check with your Parisian correspondent.
What makes us sad about the Rebbe is that although he lived in the USSR, France, and the USA, he never came to the Land of Israel. I think this was a missed spiritual opportunity for everybody.
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