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Guess who is the Shliach I am talking about?
"Who" doesn't matter. The frequency of the pattern of egocentric behavior is the problem.
the deal is that shlichus is no longer a calling. its now a lucartive business opportunuty. there are no rules or guidlines thus making it ripe for curruption and thus opening the doors for people who are totally not qualified for shlichus.
No, unfortunately this attitude is not limited to shluchus. My daughter came home from Chabad high school talking about the poor limitations of Chagas Chassidus. Even the term itself automatically defines it as intellectually inferior.
Has v'Sholom, NO! Not the Tzanzer.
The problem is as well that most Shluchim wouldn't know chagas chasidus if it hit them across the face. They wouldn't know Chabad Chassidus either. Because the Rebbe' sichos are a lot closer to chagas chassidus then some "chagas" chassidus is to chagas chassidus.
Because the Rebbe' sichos are a lot closer to chagas chassidus then some "chagas" chassidus is to chagas chassidus.
may be true at first glance. however, the rebbe's chassidus is a supplement - not a substitute to the teachings of his predecessors.
But the same is true for any "chagas" Chassidus- when a person is meayen into any of them.
chagas chassidus is not chabad, the chagas chassidus is more similar to the "avoidadike" maamorim of chabad. i challenge you to find me a biur similar to the kind of samech vov or ayin beis in chagas chassidus - not the same biur, but the same style and comprehension
Don't you think some of the themes in R Tzodok HaKohen's seforim are similar to Likutei Sichos?
Reb Tzadok has similar themes to the Rebbe's sichos because they are both drawing from the same place. But Reb Tzaddok has many other themes as well.
Of course the Chabad is different. Samech Vav and Ayin beis are masterpieces.
However, look at the 5th year of maamarim in likutei halachos (breslov) Sur merav veaseh tov- bnei yisaschar, Beis Yaakov's hakdamah to Chassidus. Or follow any Torah in Likutei Moharan, to the Likutei Halachos, and then to the Likutei Tefillos. you'll see the extent of birur which can be found even in Chagas Chasidus.
let me precede my remarks with honestly notifying you, that i have had very brief encounters with Chagas Chassidus.
Chagas Chassidus certainly has its ways and methods, and it certainly has different reasons for deriving their customs and ways. In fact, it would be an outright joke for someone to form a movement which didn't have any substantial evidence (natural, supernatural, physical, metaphysical or intellectual) to be based upon. However, Chabad chassidus clearly demands leraning Chassidus and Kabbalah - as the core and life source of the chassidus - where simcha and hislahavus - Joy and Excitement - are just natural occurences which are to result from one's understanding of chassidus. On the other hand, Chagas clearly demands - first and foremost - emunah and hispa'alus.
didn't you read this:
http://www.mentalblog.com/2006/0...us-
breslov.html
Maysh?
not the Schwortzie.
"Chagas clearly demands - first and foremost - emunah and hispa'alus."
If you look in Yesodei Hatorah of the Rambam- as well as his hakdmah to perush hamishnayos- Yiddishkeit demands emunah. Chagas Chassidus also requires a study of Chassidus and Kabalah.
With all due respect- Chagas Chassidus simply gets a bad rap in Chabad because of a) many people who are socialogical chassidim, and b) lubavitcher stereotypes of polish Chassidim from the schools predating peshischa, izbitz and their toldos.
REb Yoel Kahn gave shiur in sefas emes for years.
and don't forget about the mittler rebbe's kuntres hahipaylus...
The style of the kuntres is definitely not what you''d see in chagas chassidus, it was a discussion of the proper place of hispaalus. Reb Aharon Halevy wrote shaar Haavodah and shaar ha tefillah in oppposition to this, (or maybe it was vice versa.) Of course his style in Perush Hamilos or in Toras Chaim is very very haskolish.
(oops pushed the wrong button) What I was trying to say is that Chagas Chassidus is not just be happy and have emunah. I'm just opposed to the disparaging references to chagas chassidus, based on generalizations
About that shaliach - are you reffering to yourself when you mention 'BT returning to his Chagas roots...'
what are you trying to say that just because someone has the position of a lubavitcher shliach doesnt mean hes a mentch - obviously.
There are all sorts of ______ (I'll let you fill that in) out there.
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