"Berl Yomi"? Nu nu.
berl, crown heights | 05.18.06 - 8:34 am | #

that's it. i don't need mentalblog anymore.
faruq | 05.18.06 - 12:43 pm | #

Thanks for the link - I take that as a green light to proceed...

(All are encouraged to send in selections that they found poignant :-) )
mikusher | Homepage | 05.18.06 - 1:47 pm | #

proceed where? to steal the comments?
Tzemach Atlas | Homepage | 05.18.06 - 1:55 pm | #

If you object, I will bring it down.

However, you note at the bottom of the comments page:
"We have nothing to do with the comments but you can't use them without a credit to mentalblog.com"

And I give credit for each quote...
mikusher | Homepage | 05.18.06 - 2:09 pm | #

I agree only on one condition that you provide a link with a name of the post. Say that it is a comment to such and such post with a link to that specific post. If you can’t do bring it down now. My blog is mentalblog.com not www.Mentalblog.com.
Tzemach Atlas | Homepage | 05.18.06 - 8:26 pm | #

TA, no comments on the Soloveitchik paper? Strange. I though it was very discussion-worthy. Just the footnotes alone contain enough themes for countless posts.
berl, crown heights | 05.18.06 - 9:40 pm | #

I printed it yesterday, 30 pages and still could not read it. I am getting to it.
Tzemach Atlas | Homepage | 05.18.06 - 9:41 pm | #

This article is actually easier to read online because you can cross-link between the main text and the footnotes (which are not to be missed as well).
berl, crown heights | 05.18.06 - 9:44 pm | #

I'm only 1/3 of the way through the Soloveitchik essay, but I must thank you for posting it!
It's very interesting and well thought out, even if I would say that (so far) it's not a true chiddush. (I hope to finish it over Shabbos)
chabakuk elisha | 05.19.06 - 10:56 am | #

Tzemach: Thanks for the permission. I aim to please.
mikusher | Homepage | 05.19.06 - 12:42 pm | #

Re the Hayim Soloveitchik article.

Menachem Friedman has an article called "The Last Kiddush Cup" which elaborates on the same theme.

I think Soloveitchik makes reference to Menachem Friedman towards the end of the article acknowledging his support for the basic ideas contained within it.

Its a somewhat amusing article (I have a copy of it, but don't know where it was published). Briefly, he relates the story of Dov Genachowski who is a descendent of a Lithuanian family of Rabbonim & Talmidei Chachomim. He lived in Bnei Brak & his family was friendly with the Hazon Ish.

The story that he relates is that Dov's father received 2 Kiddush cups when he got married. One given to him by the Ohr Someach & another by Dov's grandfather who was apparently the Chavrusa of the Hazon Ish's father.

Neither of these cups held a revi'is according to the shiur of the Hazon Ish. Dov, somewhat audaciously, took these cups to the Hazon Ish, who refused to react & would not relent either.

In a similar vein he mentions, in the article, the story of the daughter of the Hafetz Hayim complaining that her sons would not use their grandfathers cup for Kiddush because "it doesn't hold a shiur of the Hazon Ish

Menachem Friedman uses these two stories to basically argue the same point that Soloveitchik does in his article about the dynamics of stringency that has emerged in the Chareidi (more specifically the non-Chassidic Chareidi) world as a result of migration & dislocation.
jyk,down under | 05.20.06 - 7:19 am | #

I tried to read the article but I could not go past the middle. The language is confusing. There is no beginning middle or end. The ideas are raised to never be finished. Sorry I can’t get thru it. I suspect that this could have been written in 3 pages instead 30.
Tzemach Atlas | Homepage | 05.20.06 - 10:35 pm | #