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Your words just pierced a hole in my heart, Tzemach.
I remember my days in Crown Heights, wandering around for hours on Shabbos trying to find the farbrengen that would nurture my soul.
Dont feel bad. I did not go either.
Tony,
A few years back, I was so lonely here in Yehupitz that I called a Lubavitch friend of mine and said, "Listen, I know I will be in your city in six weeks. It's a long way off, so I'm giving you plent of warning. I NEED a Farbrengen when I come into your city." I even reminded him 4,3 and 2 weeks to D-Day. When I got there, he apologized, this happened and that happened, and sof sof no Farbrengen. I was so angry that I didn't talk to him for three years.
so Yehupitz and Tony, do you have any solutions or do we keep on boorching?
Tony I didn't get it. Do you agree with TA's assesment of the situation?
idiots, stop making statements with your nicknames. morons
Asessment of WHAT situation?! I was responding to the intensity of human emotions. This is precisely the problem. People want to "assess situations" instead of connecting to each other. If you'v become so numb as to not recognize when one Jew feels for another, then no amount of vodka will be able to peel back the layers of insensitivity!
my new name is -- chaplin. Is that better?
TA made the statement "what I will hear will be a bitter unbearable disappointment."
are you lamenting with him over the current situation? and if so, would you like to offer your brilliant advice on how to improve the "bitter unbearable disappointment".
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First of all, Yehupitz, it is in many ways to be lonely in Yehupitz than to be lonely while sitting at a table of twenty guys that look just like you.
Second, Chaplin, I have know idea what you are saying. I told you already, rather sharply, that we are not talking about "assessing situations." So why do you come right back and ask "are you lamenting with him over the current situation?" Listen close, I'll speak slowly: I...am...not...talking...about...any...SITUATION!
I'm talking about relating to another human beings frickin' EMOTIONS!!!
The irony is nauseating. This is precisely why so many people feel so damn lonely.
I never knew you were into the counseling bit. I appreciate your empathy for Yehupitz and perhaps for TA, although in his case if he did go to the farbrengen a well written treatise on the malady of Krinsky, Shlichus oligarchy etc. may have emerged
my question to you is, since you express yourself so eloquently in the past regarding shlichus Lubavitch etc. soooo... considering the unfortunate fact that I do agree with TA that in all likelihood he would have heard the same empty worn out words, had he gone in to the ..whatever is was, and considering the poor Shliach who asked not to be seen with TA, do you have any words of wisdom or words of empathy on those parts of TA's deep emotional words that ripped a whole in the heart?.
Am I clear this time?
Chaplin, I have gone on record on this blog as being "pro-system." But why does that force you to assume that my bull crap detector is broken. I'm just as capable of being left bitter and broken by empty words as the revolutionaries are.
This "us and them" attitude is part of the problem. This isn't color war. We're all on the same side trying to figure things out. Hence, this blog.
"Hence, this blog.", TA, is Tony your co-blogger?
everyone (except the morons) is a co-blogger. This is a forum. You are also a co-blogger, faruq.
ok, it is just that his comments fill me with anxiety. i say this with no reflection at all on the real person behind the alias. but the propaganda, oh God!
faruq,
Careful now - emotions are raw. Co-blogger or not, you still might get your butt kicked here for the ill-timed wise cracks… As for me, not being a very emotional guy ( בלשון המעט ), I just stay away during such discussions, since I have nothing constructive to add.
berl, you can do whatever you want, stay in or out. you do not have to report to me. virtual ass kicking does not scare me much.
At the end of the post is a practical question. Not emotional. I have lived with this hole for a long time and I suspect I am not the only one, I am used to it now, and it is become my second nature.
By the way Tony I spoke today with Reb Simon. He said few interesting things and he asked to see my notes before I publish it ( so it will have to wait). But there was one thing that bothered him, it was the anonymity of the accuser, you. What is your beef with Jacobsons, is it their independence?
Independence doesn't bother me. Shmuli Boteach is independent. Zalman Shecter is really, really independent. A lot of our best and brightest declared their independence. But they make a living off of pimping their own superstar status, not the Rebbe's.
Wasn't the Rebbe officially "pimping" Rayatz?
Okay, I'm glad you went there. Let's get into it.
With apologies to Iceberg Slim...
A pimp is the ultimate opportunist. He takes advantage of the ho as well as the john. He loves neither of them and relies on the fact that they will not love each other either, for that is the only relationship that will continue to deem the pimp a necesary intermediary.
I guess that is the litmus test.
A chossid (or perhaps just a Lubavitcher) that knows Iceberg Slim!
A man after my own heart, how come I never met such persons in Crown Heights?
Bruce, you probably did. You just won't catch them standing out on Kingston talking about it, that's all.
A blog is different. It allows people to speak in the same osiyos that they hear in the own brains without having to filter. The blogosphere is its own distinct culture that melds every influence in the universe in graceful, absurd harmony. Very much like the world really is from the Aibersher's perspective.
PS - And you're not nispo'el also from Tony Montana? (I bury da cock-a-roaches!)
Tony, are you BT?
Tony,
I'm looking for a new mashpia, u fit the bill, where can i get ahold of you. Seriously.
Aww, come on, Tzemach! Can't you just let me be me? I'm not BT, I'm not FFB. I'm not American, I'm not Russian. I'm not a meshichist, I'm not an anti. Well... actually, yes, I am an anti. But that's all I'll go on the record as being.
No, I'm not much impressed by "Tony Montana." Cultural elitist that I am (hey, I ended up in Lubavitch, right?), I don't have much regard for mass-media made movie characters. Especially Miami gangsters, after spending my adolesence and twenties in So. Florida. Robert Beck, he may tell a tall story, but he was the real thing.
If you have read Iceberg Slim, you should know that Tony Montana is not so much the studio creation as he is a cult-figure of the underground black ghetto counterculture of the Reagan years crack era.
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