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Does the Alegemeiner Admur credits the inspiration to Whitman in the tape. I am betting $10 he does not.
I did see the movie, and I did not like it. It was preppy and pop. Years ago though. On the subject of Jacobson’s, they both made a business decision to work the system. This undermines the "scientific validity" of anything they say.
Rebbe - 'Captain', מנין ?
Here are Rebbe's words from a letter penned shortly after the Previous Rebbe's histalkus:
למרות האבדה הגדולה שאבד עם ישראל - הוא קברניטו הוד כ"ק מו"ח אדמו"ר זצוקללה"ה נבג"מ זי"ע.
(The word קברניט means 'captain' or 'steward' [in this letter - of the 'Jewish nation'])
'Captain, My Captain'
Credit attribution on creative headlines/titles inspired or borrowed from other places? It is just not done.
not headline but the inspiration
It's not done - it's assumed to be understood by the 'cultured' and deemed unnecessary, akin to explaining a joke. But the idea of calling the Rebbe 'captain' he did not get from Walt Whitman.
I thought it was Noach? Don't be silly.
How about we settle this: Calling the Rebbe Captain came from the letter. Using the phrase Captain my Captain came from the poem. Agreed?
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.
sigh...
guravitzer,
Correct. This is, essentially, what I am saying. (Only 'captain' is not necessarily from this letter - the usage of the 'captain of the ship called am yisroel' metaphor in reference to Jewish leaders bichelal and Rebbeim biferat [particularly in conjunction with their histalkus] is not new in this letter either. I merely brought the letter as one example of such usage. As to Noach - mah yinyan shemittoh eitzel har sinai?)
There is a hebrew version of this song by one Meital Trabelsi (or something like that) she refers to Rabin when she sings the song. Nice song nonetheless.
http://www.mkm-haifa.co.il/schoo...hak/
yizhak1.htm
its hardly surprising.
Lincoln was heavily influence by the Hebrew bible, was a believer in G-ds providence, but not particularly Christian, and was leading through times of danger and hope that had a messianic air to them. Whitman had inherited a mystical tradition via transcendentalism, and while not a Christian, had grown up among Christians. There are many deep cultural connections here.
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