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Chava, how do you know that?
Same way you know about Geza and BT women. Experience.
Chava, you say that "They don't groom, earn, or humor me enough." Is that also an "experience"?
You're getting a little bit personal here, but yes.
Where you married to one? Or was it just love? Don’t you think what you describe sounds like a generic Lubavitcher rather than a generic Russian? Like I don’t drink at all but some American BTs I know do.
We were defacto, and I also dated several of his friends before we moved in together. I'm American BT, asheknaz from the west coast.
Did I mention they were all lousy in bed? All selfish lovers who whined and moaned and snored.
"lousy in bed"
IS THAT FROM Experience TOO??
"Did I mention they were all lousy in bed? All selfish lovers who whined and moaned and snored."
That would then take them out of the category of BT, now wouldn't it.
There is a certain sense of machoism found amongst most Russian males though...
Chava, tell like it is! Preach it sistah!
Ms. Chava,
what do you mean by "they were ALL lousy in bed?" for sure you don't mean every single one of them!?
otherwise, i think you have a point. "They're quarrelsome, misogynistic, pseudo-intellectuals with bad breath and rotting teeth." you put this very well. btw, this sentence pretty much describes a significant portion of russian population. and i mean russian. i think that russin jews used to be more genuine.
Professor Higgins, I think we have found your protégé.
arent there enough venues for shmutz on the internet.why let you blog be sullied.
Colonel Pickering, I didn't know that Professor Higgins’ job was to make an American peasant act like a Russian one.
Chava, Who would want to go out with, let alone marry one? Apparently you did with more than one of them.
don't attack her just because she had the courage to speak up. "quarrelsome"? that is definitelly true. find me one who isn't like that. BTW this applies to non BTs as well, quarrelsome smart asses. On the other hand at least they have an opinion :) besides how could they not argue if they are right?
...and they beat women and eat small children.
yoshe kalb, get off my site moron. Do not comment here again idiot. You know why...
I will delete your future comments.
...and a g'mar tov to you as well...
>> Did I mention they were all lousy in bed?
All twenty four ? You gotta rest in between.
My ex-girlfriend broke up with me, and within two weeks as sleeping with a Russian BT.
In some countries the husbands come home and hit their wives. When asked why? they say "I don't know, but she does. When Russians are asked the same question they answer, "I don"t know, but if I did, I'd kill her".
I now know why!
I have a few diverse and unconnected points to add which are all really separate posts (for whatever it's worth).
One: This stereotyping of Russian BTs has some truth to it, but its about as accurate as joking that all American BTs are granola-crunching ex-Dead Heads. I've known plenty of Russian BTs who are sensitive, deep, soft-spoken and don't even know how to drink vodka. Even coming from a common culture, different personality types always emerge. What I will say is that without exception, anybody who spent any amount of their formative years in the Soviet Union is, to some degree, emotionally disturbed. Some over-compensate and re-adjust better than others, but no one walked away from that place without deep emotional scars. What I'm talking about is not the Russian cultural idiosyncrasies of pretentiousness, stubbornness, bravado, etc. but the symptomatic characteristics of post-traumatic-stress-syndrome from living in a totalitarian society, namely suspicion, hyper-vigilance and rigidity. I would be interested to know if the old Russians who had some vestige of cultural connection to pre-Soviet Russia were possessed of these same foibles. It is rather hard to know, just like one wonders if being a pugnacious ingrate was a common trait amongst American Blacks before they were concentrated into the industrial ghettos.
Further, I would postulate that many of today’s Russian BTs are a different breed than those of the lameds and mems. In those days, the BTs were revolutionaries who practiced defiance through dabbling in Yiddishkeit. There is absolutely no comparing pre-perestroika Refusenik iconoclasts to today’s “BTs-by-default” who have comfortably fallen into a pre-set sub-cultural framework. Most of today’s Russian BTs (I’m not talking about the Chabad House mekurovim all over the country, but rather the sirtuk-wearing card-carrying Lubavitchers) are messianist, which suits their post-Soviet disorder on two counts. One, it reinforces their need to be distrustful of authority by sneering at the premise of a centralized system. Two, it meets an even more deep-seated, unspoken need to aggrandize their leaders into a generalissimo.
Now, for my second point:
Just so you can sleep a wee bit easier tonight, I will tell you that from reading the young lady’s post, I gather that she is not so young. This is no wild-child girl hell-bent on throwing away her innocence. She is nearing middle age and her Russian BT “friends” are not elterer bocherim with yellow lapel pins. They are a bunch of Chabad House mekurovim also in their 40s, probably divorced from non-Jewish wives.
However (my third point)
While writing about her personal indiscretions amongst Russian BT men, the poster reveals much more about the sub-culture of which she speaks than she is aware.
What is of interest to me is not whether or not they have “bad breath and rotting teeth,” but that she describes a social network of so-called “baalei teshuvah” who seem to engage regularly in behavior that exemplifies wanton prikus-oyl. So superficial is their brand of “teshuvah” that one could behave like a shikkurer goy and still identify as baalei teshuvah. Indeed, Tzemach, file this under the post “Woodstock in Uman,” for they are two outbreaks within the same epidemic. Once upon a time, Jewish outreach was a cottage industry. The purveyors were either authentic (if not eloquent) communicators, or if not, then at least, possessed of some sense of accountability. Now, (thank G-d), Judaism is available as never before to the masses. But with that comes the Lord of the Flies syndrome I once referred to on this blog (see post: The Gym that Was Once 770).
You are all fools. Especially Tzemach and Tony. All my posts were hoaxes! I am a complete imposter and everything I wrote was a fabrication. Yet you all took it so seriously. Ha Ha Ha!
While you're at it, "Chava," do you also want to admit that you're really a man?
Send this Chava back to Chelm! Just an updated version of the newcomer who gloats he has hoodwinked everyone because told them his name is Moishe whereas really it's Yankel!
Tony I am not a man but you are a pugnacious self absorbed arrogant psuedo-intellectual fool.
Say good night to the bad guy!
Chava,
You've stepped into a den of thieves and knaves and not a one cares who you are; just what you appear to be. Anything you post is merely fodder for their canons. Especially Tony, who could cite modern literary criticism and pronounce you irrelevant if not absolutely non-existant. As for non-existence, well you have done just that to your self-a virtual suicide if you will. A first on mentalblog although there have been several unsuccessful attempts. Fellows, a round of applause for "Chava." She may not deserve an halo but she has certainly earned her quotes.
Truman, as you know from your name the life is a show, Chava is a character. She has chosen her character. Who cares if she exists. If what she wrote didn’t resonate with the reality as we know it, we would not have spoken about it.
Alas, poor Chava. I knew her well.
In Missouri Truman has an altogether different meaning and anyone familiar with the embarassing 50's would know that Harry S. was a man for all seasons and a very rare bird indeed.
As for the show; let the beguine continue...
All a man has in this life is his balls and his word.
You wanna go to war? I take you to war!
"All a man has in this life is his balls and his word." And with the wrong word he could lose his.
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