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Poignant and well put. These are the questions that this situation should inspire, not just in individuals but in those responsible for a system that may still work for some, but is clearly flawed. If the roshei yeshiva could start asking these questions to themselves and each other, lives would be saved. I see skepticism about this particular case (and pretty much all the others), yet noone seems to deny that this sort of crap goes on- which disturbingly showcases not just how rampant it is, but a despicable lack of communal outrage. This response gives me some hope- as opposed to the response of whatever chabad apologist writes this blog, which was fucked up and creepy
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"chabad apologist writes this blog"
allah chu akbar!
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06.08.07 - 11:28 am | #
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That must be the ultimate insult, hoarding you together with the likes of me, no? Calling you an Chabad apologist is like calling NPR a corporate tool. I feel your pain, TA.
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06.08.07 - 12:00 pm | #
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NPR is a corporate tool of government. its like chabad.org
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this "comment" from rebrorn was originally a post on 7fc "fanmail from a flounder" as if you didn't know. af kabinyamat!
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06.08.07 - 12:19 pm | #
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what is the meaning of "shitalphin"?
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06.08.07 - 12:24 pm | #
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nurture or nature? question have been asked in a broader sense about homosexuality. And depending whom you ask it has no definitive answer. Many blame societal conditions just like in this case. One thing is clear the jewish puritan culture seems to have no effect on the rate of this deviance.
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06.08.07 - 12:31 pm | #
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6000. the end is near.
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06.08.07 - 12:38 pm | #
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shit-alphin a thousand times shit.
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Call Atlas a moron a shmuck, Aspergers,whatever, but don't dare call him a Lubab apologist!!
He is one guy who does not apologize for Lubab inc.
If you want an oxygen deprived apologist go to TheantiTzemach blog
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from our dear friend wikipedia:
"A perpetrator of child sexual abuse is commonly assumed to be a pedophile, and referred to as such; however, there may be other motivations for the crime[17] (such as stress, marital problems, or the unavailability of an adult partner),[26] much as adult rape can have non-sexual reasons. Thus, child sexual abuse alone may or may not be an indicator that its perpetrator is a pedophile; most perpetrators of it are in fact not primarily interested in children.[27] However, regardless of motivation, child sexual abuse is a crime, and pedophilia is a mental illness."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ped...t_of_occurrence
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From The Talmud: "Masbia RUov" = Restraint (in mind and action )reduces the juices
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re: the accusation against the big bad system. it's actually nice to hear ones own thoughts on the lips of others [i'm sure i'm not the only one], but we must ask ourselves if we have a viable solution to offer or we can only sit and shoot criticism without any real alternative in mind a la kerry vs. bush on the war.
i think that many if not most of today's mashpie'im and roshie yeshivah are aware of the flaws in the system, they just [like everyone else] don't know what is to be done to rectify it [except, they don't get the satisfaction of pointing fingers at someone else...]
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