I think it's "K-J-V" -- "King James Version."
Gandalin | 05.05.08 - 2:42 pm | #

oh, well i still see KGB everywhere...
Tzemach | Homepage | 05.05.08 - 2:42 pm | #

Not to worry.
Gandalin | 05.05.08 - 4:33 pm | #

Off topic, but an article I wanted to bring to your attention:

http://seforim.blogspot.com/2008...s-and- nazi.html

Quote:

"The idea that Halachah allows the privileged, the rich and the well connected to utilize their wealth and influence to shift, even indirectly, the burden of military service onto their less fortunate brethren26 will very likely trouble those (such as me) with modern, Western value systems."

And a quote from a source quoted in the post:

Source:

http://seforim.blogspot.com/2008...-by-marc- b.html

"When dealing with anti-clericalism in Russia, we must also not forget the masses’ long memory of how some (many?, most?) rabbis were silent during the era of the chappers. This was when children were grabbed for 25 years of military service in the Cantonists, often never again to see their parents and usually succumbing to incessant pressure (including torture) to be baptized. Yet it wasn’t the children of the rich or the rabbis who were taken, but the poor children. Jacob Lifshitz’ defense of the way the Jewish community dealt with the Cantonist tragedy – which he regards as worse than even the destruction of the Temple! – and his insistence that no one can judge the community leaders unless they themselves had been in such a difficult circumstance, is something we must bear in mind. Yet all such ex post facto justifications would have no impact on the outlook of those that actually suffered during the Cantonist era, and it is no wonder that many of the common people would not regard the rabbis in a sympathetic light. The rabbis were certainly able to come up with a justification why their sons, the future Torah scholars, should not be taken to the army, just as they continue to make this argument. Yet this would only serve to show the masses that some children’s blood was indeed redder than others."
Gandalin | 05.05.08 - 4:41 pm | #

we don't need long irrelevant pilpulim, we need historical cleansing from shame.

the collusion between rich and rebbes has been the real consequence of the cursed Besht revolution. And as insult to the destroyed souls they manged to populate the idea in peoples heads that they came to help simple people. This is preposterous lie that must be exposed at every opportunity.
Tzemach | Homepage | 05.05.08 - 4:51 pm | #