Would they have applauded if he was straight?


Ewwwwwwwwwww....


Pedo-Wizard.


So THAT'S why he taught him how to handle his wand...


"Would they have applauded if he was straight?"

Let's see...

"Dumbledore luuuuuuuuuuvs the pussy" the author responded to gasps and applause.

Maybe not.


That was so....unnecesary. Idiot, I guess she's getting scared that in a few years she'll be old news, so hey let's make Dumbledore light in the loafers so that the homo groups will be praising her forever. Now we really know why his brother beat the crap out of him.


Is she implying that gays can't find true love? Homophobic!


I never read any of the HP books. Is there any indication in the way the character is drawn that would suggest he is gay, or is the Author just looking for publicity?


What will be the next great step forward for Western civilization? Bestiality? Necrophilia? Pedophilia?

I think the order will be pedophilia, closely followed by bestiality and then some time later necrophilia.

Soon cannibalism will be a progressive cause.


If you notice VD, the whole story revolves around marxist political correctness. The whole plot line revolves around "Half-bloods" persecuted against the "Pure bloods" and the Pure Bloods are eeeevillll.

This is another regurgitated Nazi themed series. J. K. Rowling is no thinker but is blinded by modern propaganda and writes a story embedding Cultural Marxism.

So now, to complete the sicko series, she outs Dumbledore as a homo. Just more sickness.

Western Civilization has been dead for a long time. And one can't go nowhere, read, or see anything without some Nazi theme in it.

Pure bloods are eeeevilllll. That is why we must alow Pakistani, Hindu, Moslem invasion of Europe---Pure bloods are eeeevilllll. We need more race mixing is really the message of J. K. Rowling.

Look at the Girlfriend of the Anglo-Saxon Potter---an Asian---yehhhh.


How can you have European Civilization, Christendom, without Pure blood Europeans?

This is the struggle for real conservatives--this Marxist cultural bs throughout our societies.


Dumbledore: "Harry, do you like Gladiator movies"?


J.K. Rowling is a product of new Marxist culture. What she writes about is the Pre-dominant, Jewish created Cultural matrix--Half-bloods are good--Pure Bloods are eeevilll. The constant race mixing, the "blond haired, blue eyed" are eeevillll characters.

Her literature shows a complete cultural transformation of the West. The West is dead--The Eastern syncretistic Communist Culture is the NORM! Culture revolves around the dominant sophistry and that is Cultural Marxism---And NO Women can't create great Western literature. Only Men created Western literature because the West is a Masculine Culture and that J.K. Rowling is so deceived into buying into the politically correct nonsense is proof positive of her small mind.


My youngest son was inspired to do this:


www.dumbgayfag.ytmnd.com

His lack of subtlety is made up for by his lack of subtlety.


At least George Takei had the good taste not to project his sexual proclivities onto the fictional character he plays. When a Trekkie demanded to know, "Is Sulu gay?" he sidestepped the issue (and Paramount's legal department) by responding, "In the 23rd Century sexual orientation won't matter."

At the William Shatner roast, however, Takei was "out and proud". Among the barbs he hurled at The Fat One: "If my lover sucked as hard as your acting, I'd never leave my chateau."


So she captures an entire generation of youngsters with her tales, and then - at the end - tells them of of the great heroes is queer.

She sucks.


Hey, Jason Whitlock is an African--He knows his own.


Posted that Whitlock in the wrong Haloscan--my apologies.


Pino,

I haven't read the books either, but I saw some of the movies (I know, I know). But my guess is publicity. Perhaps now that the series has ended she was going into publicity withdrawal.


Perhaps now that the series has ended she was going into publicity withdrawal.
- El Derbo

Sounds like an attempt to repeat the Ann Heche "hey-look-at-me-I-am-a-lesbian!" strategy.


Yay for gayness! Flowing gowns and little pointy sticks. All very uplifting.

What she did took a lot of courage. It would have been too easy to make him homosexual before she made her billions.


Is there any indication in the way the character is drawn that would suggest he is gay, or is the Author just looking for publicity?

No, I think she envisioned Dumbledore that way, but didn't dare to actually describe him thusly. And reasonably so, that would have derailed the Potter express in a heartbeat. He was essentially sexless, except he clearly enjoyed the private time he spent mentoring Harry in his office which in retrospect now looks a bit suspect.

I'm not sure she is going to enjoy the inevitable pedophile jokes that a homosexual running a school is bound to inspire.


This was such a stupid thing for her to do, and completely unnecessary. I'm disappointed, not because the series was so great, but because it wasn't a bad series and didn't have to resort to kowtowing to the gays to continue being a success. It's a shame, really.


Great, Dumbledore is out, the new James Bond is gay...whats next, Siegfrid and Roy?


Uh, yeah.
We're talking about a fictional character, here, right?
Unless you mean the dude that played him in the movie. If not, how "gay" could Bugs Bunny be?
Betcha' Borat's queer, too!

*Sighs, rolls eyes*


Galt, don't pull the stupid "Murphy Brown is just a TV character, lets look at how stupid Dan Quayle is" business.

Of COURSE it's a fictional character. But fiction presents a reflexion of the surrounding culture. And THAT is eminently commentable-upon.


Another reason I am glad that I haven't read single page of the Potter series.


This was perfect for you Vox, I didn't even think about it properly, the implications, but there you go, you delivered.

Good job.

Quiddich takes on an all new meaning don't it.


Uh, yeah.
We're talking about a fictional character, here, right?
Unless you mean the dude that played him in the movie. If not, how "gay" could Bugs Bunny be?
Betcha' Borat's queer, too!

*Sighs, rolls eyes*


To me this is no less idiotic than those in the "gay community" who took notice that Gandalf (ian mckellen) is gay and try making something of it. And of course if you try to impune that "logic" they will get all Butt Hurt (some pun intended) about it. As much as it is Her work, Rowling follows in the footsteps of the likes George Lucas, who seemingly seek to ruin their own work for the people who enjoy it.


What would you expect from a bimbo who was quoted as saying that she never considered the Potter series 'fantasy' while she was writing. Hells bells! Does she think it's real?

Besides, she admits never having finished reading LOTR. She's useless.


Doesn't Rowling's initials stand for
Just Kidding?


Boy, this give "Hogwarts" a whole new meaning. Or should that read "a hole new meaning"?


"My youngest son was inspired to do this:


www.dumbgayfag.ytmnd.com

His lack of subtlety is made up for by his lack of subtlety.
The Aardvark"L

You really should try to teach your son better morals and ethics.

What a shame.


You really should try to teach your son better morals and ethics.

What a shame.
(Pinotopolis)

You just have to bring up morality and ethics, don't you?

Okay, I'll bite. Aardvark is presumably teaching his son morality that upholds his values. His values may not be the same as yours, but for you to criticise him and his son presupposes some objective standard for correct morality.

Since you have clearly stated that you are convinced that there is no such standard ("hooey", I think was the word you used) you have no basis for criticising the Aardvark's values and morals, at least not the way you did, with words like "better" and "shame".

You could, however, convince him that the website is not in keeping with the Aardvark's values, meaning that he should warn his son against it for the sake of consistency. You could also convince the Aardvark to change his value system so that it excludes allowing his son to enjoy such websites.

Incidentally, even if we agree on an objective standard for morality, we still do not have enough information to criticize the Aardvark. After all, maybe he did advise his son not to view the website and didn't mention it here. Maybe his son is an adult and has the right to look at whatever websites he wants. Maybe we should just keep our big noses in our own business and let other people raise their children however they damn well please.

One way or another, you only damage your own position when you switch hats from relativist to absolutist like this. This, more than anything, is the reason that others make fun of you so much more than the other atheists and agnostics that post here.

Oh, and I guess I should mention that I am also surprised and amused by the news about Dumbledore. Tschuss.


Ponotop-- Are you homophilic?


"Tschuss" should be "Tchuss"


How about "a hole new bleeding"?...


"Incidentally, even if we agree on an objective standard for morality, we still do not have enough information to criticize the Aardvark. After all, maybe he did advise his son not to view the website and didn't mention it here."

Let's hope he did. If he did advise against it...my apologies.


"
One way or another, you only damage your own position when you switch hats from relativist to absolutist like this. This, more than anything, is the reason that others make fun of you so much more than the other atheists and agnostics that post here."

The immorality inherent in that website is absolutely consistent with my view of right and wrong. Of this there can be no doubt. And since we all judge others actions based on our own view of right and wrong, I'm only doing what every other honest person does when they judge others. I am doing so from my own perspective.


I'm sure nobody here thinks it's a coincidence that she waited until after the last book was published to reveal this unnecessary and disastrous little fact to us.


Now we know that Dumbledore was gay, can't we all agree that Edwards is really a faggot?


And since we all judge others actions based on our own view of right and wrong, I'm only doing what every other honest person does when they judge others. I am doing so from my own perspective.

Which is exactly what the author of that web site is also doing, yet you condemn him for it. There's a word for that, hold on, it's coming to me ...


Quiddich takes on an all new meaning don't it.
Jamie R

Especially how the golden ball ended up in Harry's mouth. Or was that homo-osity only in the films?


This hole thing is gay.

My morality says gays and those that support them at all in any way including objecting to my morality should be deep-fried in lard.

And the great thing is that no one has any relevant basis for criticizing my views, right Pinto?


Especially how the golden ball ended up in Harry's mouth.

What a world for the lonely crowd.

I *totally* took that quote from a Luther Vandross song - if said song was for faggots who practice magic.

Any love. I guess.


Wheeler, since all human beings are the descendants of Noah and his family it makes precisely no difference if the "Anglo-Saxon" Harry Potter has a (human) girlfriend who's Asian, African, Indian, or even shock/horror French (Norman).

If you're talking about cultural differences which can become a problem sometimes; she's an English Asian girl which means they have the same culture too.


The gay community will probably respond appropriately for this unwarranted outing.


Pino, Dumbledore is a father figure and nothing more. At the most he does seem to have some quirky traits, but I wouldn't say they suggest anything. This is just to get attention.


How can you have European Civilization, Christendom, without Pure blood Europeans?

"Christendom" exists independent of European civilization or the existence of "pure blood" europeans.


Next up:

Harry Potter and the Forbidden Fruit.


She was asked by one young fan whether Dumbledore finds "true love."

One hopes (probably vainly) that none of the fans were too young.

And one must consider that this sort of thing became inevitable after Daniel Ratliff had his little adventure in that "work of art" known as Equus.


Now we really know why his brother beat the crap out of him.
Titandude

Cousin. Harry was an only child who was orphaned at the age of one.


I think Titandude was talking about Dumbledore getting beat up by his brother.


"This hole thing is gay.

My morality says gays and those that support them at all in any way including objecting to my morality should be deep-fried in lard.

And the great thing is that no one has any relevant basis for criticizing my views, right Pinto?
Michael Maier"

The ways by which any view can be criticized is huge. You can agree or disagree with the criticism. But you can't deny the criticism can be made.


This hole thing is gay.
Michael Maier

The hole thing is usually gay. Even when the whole thing is totally hetero.


"Pino, Dumbledore is a father figure and nothing more. At the most he does seem to have some quirky traits, but I wouldn't say they suggest anything. This is just to get attention.
superninja"

Her ploy seemed to work.


But you can't deny the criticism can be made. (Pinotopolis)

He didn't. He just pointed out that "no one has any relevant basis for criticizing my views" (MM). Do you disagree?


Gee, and I thought it was all about the christian theme ... or so I am being told.


YTMND is as great and creative as anything else on the web.

YTMND is as loathsome and low as anything else on the web.

We have raised our kids with the tools to accept or reject the things they see and hear. They know enough, and exhibit enough taste to avoid as much of the drek as they can, given that one is always three mouseclicks away from disaster on the 'net. I mean, when you google "dominion theology", and get pictures of people in black leather doing...things...well, you get the point.
Just because it exists on YTMND does not mean that they partake of it. They are selective.

Much in the culture invites satire and fun-making. The Rowling silliness merely begged for it.

But thank you, Pintopolish, for your deep concern for our menage, and the morality therein.

And thanks, too, Shild, for ably brandishing the broken bourbon bottle of Reason.

See what I miss when I have to work?


This was such a stupid thing for her to do, and completely unnecessary. I'm disappointed, not because the series was so great, but because it wasn't a bad series and didn't have to resort to kowtowing to the gays to continue being a success. It's a shame, really.
m.x. | 10.20.07 - 12:36 pm | #

I agree, I agree.


Wes, I was snickering over comments here and there, but yours made me laugh out loud!


Besides, Pintopolis, Who died and made you....

Oh, never mind.


Re: The Aardvark,

You are most welcome, although I have to admit that swinging that bottle is always its own reward.


Of course, Dumbledore isn't the only thing that J.K. has "outed" recently.


Hey Aardvark!

here's my email address: livingfree1697@hotmail.com

I got a question to ask you.

Thank ya!


"Christendom" exists independent of European civilization or the existence of "pure blood" europeans. --Crystal Lake

Don't let Wheeler hear about that!


"If you're talking about cultural differences which can become a problem sometimes; she's an English Asian girl which means they have the same culture too.
Jason


Jason here exhibits the perfect example of the glaring ignorance of 99% of people out there. Does Jason have "science" or does he have an opinion? For science is much different than opinion and opinion is based on what? Propaganda.

If you are so smart Jason--is there European culture in Asia? prior to WWII? Did Asia at anytime exhibit the product as Europe? Classical music? Art? Architecture? Literature?

NO.

As language is different--so is the soul is different. Even though Asian living in Europe, speaking English, her soul is wired Asian---NOT English.

You can take the African out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the African! For 400 years Africans in America still act like Africans--not Englishmen! Not European! Rap music, jazz, are products of the African soul---natural Europeans don't produce that crap!

The "love of Beauty" is inherent within the European soul. Classical music is NOT produced by the African, Asian, Semite! Sorry.

And because people like Jason don't see the metaphysical, are not psychologists, (in the Classical sense, students of the Soul,) you make glaring judgements and are cultural marxists! Cultural Marxism seeks the death of Europe! For the Faith is Europe and Europe the Faith.

Pakistanis, Hindus, Moslems, North Africans--living in Europe ARE STILL, Pakis, Hindus, Moslems, North Africans!

Jason, a Leopard doesn't change his spots, and an African, Asian, Semite doesn't either. And until people like you understand that---well we will continue with the continuing saga of the Destruction of the West. It is people like Jason that are the usefull idiots of global marxists, neo-cons, Jewish overlords.


J. K. Rowling is just another cog in the wheel of neo-babelism, one world global propaganda. She has been fed BS all her life and now she regugitates that BS in her Harry Potter books as well. Garbage in--Garbage out.

She has now successfully implanted in the minds of million of susceptible children, who don't have any training in discernment, communist ideology!!!!! by wrapping it up in a candy wrapper.

She is the shinning example of Fabian socialism! Eve was easily decieved and we can see that Eve characteristic very easily in J. K. Rowling!


Well, of course Crystal Lake will say that. She is one of those judeochristians. I am adding her to the Bone head list, those that seek death of the West either consciously or unconsciously.


Don't forget the date rape in the last book:
http://www.theonion.com/content/ ...at_harry_potter


"ousin. Harry was an only child who was orphaned at the age of one."

No, he was talking about DD's brother, Aberforth, who broke Dumbledore's nose during his sister's funeral. Irrelevant, I know.

"Of course, Dumbledore isn't the only thing that J.K. has "outed" recently."

How the lowly became mighty, then fell again.


WLW,

I am taken aback by your generosity. I hope to live up to this honor. By the way, that's Bone Head with a capital "H". It is a small thing, but please indulge me.

I would like to point out however, that I don't seek the death of the West anymore than Pat Buchanan does.
I do find some things about Western Culture irritating, but I am doing ok within it, so I don't want it to be Islamized or taken over by Opera companies.

All I was pointing out (if I recall) was that prophesy points to bad things happening to the Nations (Gentiles) and the fact that Christendom is Babylon of Revelations.

As far as European civilization goes, Germany in the thirties was a place of high culture and technological achievement. The Jews were some of the most assimilated in the world.
Non of these factors saved Germany from its descent into totalitarian barbarity (while keeping very good records of their crimes).

Thanks again for the recognition.
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Classical music is NOT produced by the African, Asian, Semite!

Do you have any idea how many classical music composers and performers are Jewish? Not to mention Asians like Yo-Yo Ma.


And did they create that Larry before being introduced by it thru Europeans?

I can also build a pagado Larry, does that mean I am Asian?

Just because I can ape it, doesn't mean I can create it.

English culture is a product of Anglo-Saxon character and that character is the product of the Anglo-Saxon soul, group soul. Just as an individual has a soul, so does the nation, tribe, ethnicity. As people do peculiar things, so do nations.

Trifunctionality is an Indo-European trait. (q.v. Georges Dumezil, look him up) It is peculiar to only European people. The Trinitarian concept of Christianity is a product of European people. It is not a semitic mind thought. European thought is very much attuned to proportion, symmetry and harmony. Look at the Cathedrals in every country of Europe and compare those Cathedrals with a Jewish synagogue, a Moslem Mosque and the grotesqueness of Asian temples. Very Different.

Have you ever listened to Asian music?---its atonality? Ohh, an asian girl can speak English and sip tea at tea time, but she still carries with her, her asian character. Her soul is Asian--not English. The difference of her soul is manifested in her different physical features that are NOT Anglo-saxon.

This is reality folks. And Christians who go around, refusing to see reality or understand it, are essentially liars. The Christian duty is to reality--to its faithful representation--not to ideology.


The totalitarian barbarity of Germany is the product of years of Socialist propaganda!!!!

Why do people constantly think that all of sudden, this just popped up out of nowhere?????????? Is because the real causes of the totalitarian barbarity of Germany was many years in the making by socialist agitators, communists, European Liberals, Humanists and Jews constantly undermining the Old Order of Germany!!!!!!!

Victor Adler and Ferdinand Lassalle and others worked throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries to undermine Christianity and the royal families of the particular German provinces. The German revolution of 1932 was a product of the French revolution!

Communism was in Germany LONGER than national socialism. National Socialism of the German style was created in Bohemia!!!!!!!!! in now Czechslovakia!!! It was Czechs in reaction to communist ideology that created the term National socialism.

If national socialism did not take over Germany---Communism would have!!!!! It is all Socialism---And who created communism was Karl Marx the Jew. All of Socialism can be seen orginating from the Jewish idea and need for Tikkun Olam--fixing the world. This is the mission of Socialism--fixing the world! The goal of national socialism is about fixing the world, so it has Jewish roots!

Just like the great salvation of the World has Jewish roots--the great evil of the world has Jewish roots. Why you people don't understand this dictum, this paradigm, (seen by Aristotle) is why you are all so hopelessly confused.

Race-mixing is communist ideology. National socialism can ONLY be seen in context with COMMUNISM. That the majority of people clamor and harp on some sort of spontaneous eruption is a perfect sign of the decievement and hoodwinking going on in academia and elsewhere. Hitler was actually combatting Communist ideology, an ideology of nation-destroying (in some aspects){Hitler was still a socialist, a national socialist combatting international socialists}. That J. K. Rowling is a perfect spouter of communist ideology is sign of its ascendancy and mastery over all of European cultural thought.

Until you people realize that, you will continue to misdiagnose, to misread, and make glaring mistakes in judgement and therefore wrong conclusions. You are being hoodwinked.


Wheeler, you are insane. Are "non-western" souls worse somehow?


Aristotle noticed that it was the Aristocracy that produced the most good in a society--but it could also produce the most evil. Just like Lucifer was the Highest angel, and now Satan, produces the most evil.

The Hebrews are the Chosenites. Of course, great good came out of them. But in the laws of nature, what produces good, can also produce evil. And the greatest evil is also produced by them!!!!! This is a law of nature.

Socialism is a Jewish creation. It is Tikkun Olam. And to stand against Socialism is to be anti-semitic. Socialism is monomanical as is the semitic mindset is monomanical. Socialism in all of its manifestations, communism, national socialism, exhibit this monomanicalism.


"Dumbledore is gay"

More anti-nature new agers. Unless, of course, Dumbledore's anus lubes up naturally.


Now you are getting the picture Ben-El!

Worse? We all have different gifts. To the European was given the "love of Beauty". This is why Europeans create beautiful things, is because their minds, their souls are attuned to trifunctionality. Christianity with its Trinitarianism is an European religion.

Jewish thought is One God. It is monomanicalism. Semitic thought is simple-minded. The Golden Mean is not a Semitic mindset. The Semitic mindset is "either-or". That is why communism, national socialism, libertarianism are all Extremes. Strict Monotheism is an Extreme. This Extreme thought, like "Sola Scriptura" is Jewish thought.

On the other hand, Roman Catholicism, which is a creation of European thought, is built NOT on Sola Scriptura but on Holy Tradition And Scripture. Everything in the Golden Mean--no extremes.

There is a big difference between the Semitic mindset and the European mindset. You can see that in the Architecture of the East--Extreme--whitewashed walls. Protestantism exhibits this Semitic mindset of extremes.


Ben-el, Jacques Maritain points out that philosophy is NOT semitic--it is European thought process. Philosophy is about the Metaphysical, about essences, about intangibles that underlay reality. The Soul is a Greek science. To see and understand Soul is purely a European subject. Socialism in its materialism denies the effects of soul.

God intended certain peoples with certain characteristics. Semites are NOT Europeans and Africans are NOT Europeans.

Race-mixing is Soul-mixing. Is this the will of God? Did God intend for this to happen? I don't think so.


Mr. Wheeler,
I don't think you are insane at all. I think you are correct about Tikkum Olam. I just think it is an incorrect application of the concept (by the Jews).

Sola scriptura maybe Jewish thought but it is the narrow way to truth under the tutelage of Ruach Hakodesh.

In regard to trinitarianism: this is a doctrine of devils, like the eternal torture of HELL, and should be disgarded for the nonsense that it is.

Check this out:

Even atheistic socialism collapsed under the weight of Western freedom based on faith in G-d. But all of this is rapidly crumbling away. Just like the Twin Towers, the West is imploding. The ability to distinguish between good and evil has been replaced by post-modernism. Freedom has been replaced by nihilistic servitude and capitalism has lost its refinement and cultural restraint. Instead of liberating man, it now enslaves him and has turned the masses -- both rich and poor -- into servants of the system. There is no need for 'gulags.' Western society lives in golden cages, more enslaved and despondent than ever. There is no day of rest and no days of work; no working hours and no free time; no family time and no culture time. Everything is the shopping mall. Everything flows into the bottomless consumer pit. The air, water and oil that once empowered man's liberty have been exhausted and polluted. The foundations of the Western Tower of Babel are corroding away.....

If negotiations over Jerusalem actually do take place, G-d forbid, and the Jewish Nation officially and finally surrenders its sovereignty over the source of the world's Divine message, the Moslem message to the world will erupt from Zion, flood the Land of Israel in no time and then submerge the entire cultured world.

A Jew wrote that. Moshe Feiglin. Running for Prime Minister of Israel. If you want to save Western Culture, you betta getta hardon for Jewish supremacy in Israel.
.


Let's see some parallels between J. K. Rowling and others.

This is what Wesley Clark said on the bombing of Serbia:

"There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th-century idea, and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states."


The Harry Potter Series is continuing this ideology. What is the evil in the Harry Potter series?---The Pure bloods.

All of what is going on today--is about creating multiculturalism---NOT Western Culture. This Multiculturalism is a Jewish concept of "Fixing the World". It is also in Isocrates ideology of "cosmopolitianism".

I mean the most of our cultural programing is aimed at attacking Hitler. Every piece of literature and much of neo-con literature is about destroying Europe as is. All for the benefit of the Jew.

Israeli citizenship relies on being pure blood. Rabbis constantly harp, (and I worked in a Jewish synagogue and listened to the Rabbi lecture the people on marrying Jewish!) yet us Europeans are FORBIDDEN to be Pure blood!

The outing of Dumbledore as gay is not the biggest crime but the communist ideology, this political correctness, of race-mixing, of Purebloods vs half-bloods is.

You all missed this. This is how decieved you people are.

Everything going on today revolves around this quote from Wesley Clark! Since we were hoodwinked in getting rid of our royal families that cared for us as a tribe, we have been snookered into letting ideologues rule over us and these ideologues have an agenda of race-mixing, of destroying the ethnic character of EVERY country of Europe and destroying the European character of America.

This is what J. K. Rowling is teaching.


"As language is different--so is the soul is different. Even though Asian living in Europe, speaking English, her soul is wired Asian---NOT English"

What if she was born in Italy of confusion Asian parents, who converted to Christianity when she was 3, but was sent a GREAT boarding school that happened to be jewish and happened to marry a man of Bolivian and slavic heritage?

Then what?


What if she was born in Italy of confusion Asian parents, who converted to Christianity when she was 3, but was sent a GREAT boarding school that happened to be jewish and happened to marry a man of Bolivian and slavic heritage?

Try to come up with an example that could actually happen outside of Hollywood.

Plus I think it is probably "Confucian". If you wouldn't start drinking so early in the day you could avoid these errors.
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Do you see the connection? Everywhere the Jew goes--he wants to assimilate. In the Weimar, Jews were intermarrying everywhere. The same happened in Spain. The Marranos. The Jews were intermarrying with the Spanish Aristocracy for the sake of power.

The inquisition was about ferreting out these false conversions, these half-bloods.

Gresham's law is that Bad drives out Good! Well, Semitic drives out European. To think European one MUST BE European! To mix Semitic with European is to destroy European thought! Just like the Albanian Muslims sought to drive the original christian indigenious people from Kosovo, Semitic thought also seeks to drive out European thought and destroy it.

It is a Spiritual battle. In order for evil to triumph, it first must destroy the good. Destroy Europe with race-mixing.

Gresham's law is a principle of nature.


Aardvark, the funny part of that is that my comment is one of the most obvious statements I've ever made, and it's always amusing to see Wheeler miss it under his European racialism!

She is one of those judeochristians.

Well, even most Christians understand that the root of the faith *is* Jewish, but you are the clearest example of a gentile boasting against the branches that I've seen or heard of.

Man, what would you have done post-resurrection when most of the converts *were* Jews!

those that seek death of the West either consciously or unconsciously.

That's beautiful, but let me be strictly transparent with you.

I couldn't care less about Western civilization. Such things are only a distraction from what is most important, and quite frankly, with all the abortions, we're not worth saving. We have lost our moorings. When the foundations are removed, what will the righteous do?

But let me assure you, WLW, that if I had such an overbearing loyalty to any human society or civilization, then I would deserve the woe that is in store in the End. This is not my home, and it shouldn't be yours, either. It's all destined to be destroyed, anyways - one way or the other.

so is the soul is different.

Well, naturally, we are all different. I mean, duh, but I would like to know where you get this strange idea about souls. Since you say you are a Christian, I only want scriptures not your...propaganda *wry grin*

Thank you.

Oh, and about tradition, why not check out what Yahshuah said in the gospels about tradition, and what Paul said about being carried away by philosophies and traditions of men in the epistles.


Pintopolis, the crime has already been committed. Can't undo it. What can be undone is stopping this communist ideology of race-mixing. It is stopping the Jewish control over our media. Of segregating Europeans off from what is not European. It is about saving and preserving European civilization, of preserving and creating Christendom.

It says in Scripture, "Man shall cleave to his Like". This is natural. What is UNnatural is race-mixing. Let us start here: "Man shall cleave to his like". Preserving our ethnic solidarity by marrying our own.

And second, just like Socrates predicted, the poest MUST be censored and I wish J. K. Rowling was censored! Her work is communist ideology forget all that rubbish about the occult or Dumbledore is gay bs that is only the fluff. The real menace is the communist ideology that is embedded in it. No wonder then at the destruction of Britain. The British are leaving their cities to immigrants! Isn't that great! Look at the mess of Britain turning Islamic, Pakistani and the original Christian inhabitants are going to be second class citizens to their Moslem overlords because they listened to the Jewish communists that "pure blood" states are evil!

Isn't it great, watching the death of your own civilization and countless dupes that carry it out.


Makes me sooooo happy I never wasted any money on those stupid books.
Calling it substantive reading, as I've seen in some reviews, is like calling a comic book a "graphic novel"!


Destroy Europe with race-mixing.

So, am I incorrect in reading between the lines here that you think the Jewish "soul" is evil?

You are right, in a sense, that if some foreign power wanted to destroy a nation, one way of doing it is by slow infiltration of immigrants.

But "race-mixing"..hmmm..point to me a scripture that states that this is an intrinsic evil, because if it were, I would expect Elohim to make that abundantly clear, as He did when He told the *Jews* not to mix with the unbelieving goyim (and this only because their paganism would impact them or else Ruth and Boaz would never have happened).

And, I would like to know what you think of me. I'm an eighth Armenian, which, if you do not know already, is not strictly of anglo-saxon lineage.

It also impacts King David, since he was of "mixed" race himself.


And that is where you are wrong Cyrstal.

Moses saw only the backside of God. He did not see the fullness of God.

It was only the Greeks that did. The Jews rejected Jesus. The Fullness of the faith is Christianity not Judiasm. Judiasm is only a partiality. Christianity is the Fullness of the Faith.

To see this paradigm, I point to a metaphor implanted in nature by God to explicate this paradigm, the Butterfly. The Faith is much like the butterfly. Everything has a beginning. Everything starts out as a Juvenile. A butterfly starts out as a catepillar chewing leaves. That is what Judiasm is. Christianity is the Butterfly licking nectar. The fullness of Grace. We see clearly because we see the totality of the Godhead. Jews only saw the backside.

There is a whale of a difference between Christianity and Judiasm. And this is the importance of preserving Europe. As C. K. Chesterton wrote, "The Faith is Europe". Destroy Europe, the Faith is destroyed as well. So this is the imperative Crystal. You don't understand the Natural Order, you are a heretic being a judeoChristian and so you have a corrupted understanding of Christianity itself, and you don't understand the fullness of Christianity and what it is supposed to be.

Christianity is a Ortho-doxa religion. It must have philosophy in order to operate correctly. It is thru philosophy that orders Theology!!!! This is what you judeochristians/prots miss! And philosophy is derived from the Natural Order. The Natural Order is also Scripture for God Spoke it into being. This Natural Order is what Jews and Prots are completely ignorant of. It is the Greeks that are the "Lovers of Sophia" where we get the word Philo-sophy. And philosophy is derived from the Natural Order.

This is why you CAN'T mix the Semitic with the European!!! This is why I stress seperation from Semitic or Hamatic races. Their influence is dangerous on many levels to Europeans!


It says in Scripture, "Man shall cleave to his Like".

What scripture, exactly? Educate me.

Preserving our ethnic solidarity by marrying our own.

Who is our own?

Mark 3

And a crowd was sitting around Him. And they said to Him, "See, Your mother and Your brothers are outside seeking You."

And looking about on those sitting round Him, He said, "See My mother and My brothers!

For whoever does the desire of Elohim is My brother and My sister and mother."

Is it true though that Catholics don't believe that Yahshuah has any brothers (in the flesh)?


Sorry about the messed up bold text above.


Mr. Wheeler, What you describe about the Jews is nothing less of genius. What you atrribute to evil on the part of the Jews is actually their intellectual superiority to the europeans and perhaps to the americans. Us zionists know this and welcome our Jewish friends like Paul, and Mathew, Peter and John..etc. Not to mention My Good friend (and I worship this guy) Yeshua.

What's that? You hate Jews? Well, I wouldn't hate them too much if I were you. Replacement Theology(which you seem to love) is a heresy, and it is down right wrong. If you want to hate the Jews, then be man enough to say you follow Lucifer's teachings and wish to rid the world of the Jews. Of course people really would see that you are merely conmsumed with hatred of God, and not a political rival to the Jews.

Well, WLW.. If you are not insane, then you're idiot, if not, you just hate God.


BTW.. The first Christians were Jews, do you hear that JEWS!!!, The european Christianity didn't come until many years later.. about 300-400 (constatine i believ), So you saying Christianity belongs to the europeans is just down right stupidity.

If you want to hate the Jews, be my guest, but quit dragging Christ into it. He doesn't hate the Jews, he is their Messiah after all.


Moses saw only the backside of God. He did not see the fullness of God.

It was only the Greeks that did.


Whoah!!


Thats just wrong and sick.. and just wrong.


Roman Catholicism, which is a creation of European thought, is built NOT on Sola Scriptura but on Holy Tradition And Scripture. WLW

Not to sound...errrrm, Jewish , but, where precisely does the Authority for this glorious Holy Tradition's golden influence come from?

Seems this Jewish chappie named Yeshua...sorry, JESUS, had some pretty tart things to say about the traditions of men.


The Jews rejected Jesus. The Fullness of the faith is Christianity not Judiasm. Judiasm is only a partiality. Christianity is the Fullness of the Faith.

Yahshuah is a Jew; not all the Jews rejected Him, and it is through them that we are blessed, through them that we have the covenants, the promises, and even the Word. And it is prophesied that most will return to Him.

Without a Jewish foundation for the faith, our faith is lost. Christianity's "fullness" is only understood within the backdrop of a Jewish culture and mindset. That is why we have the book of Hebrews.

More scripture:

Romans 3

What then is the advantage of the Jew, or what is the value of circumcision?

Much in every way! Because firstly indeed, that they were entrusted with the Words of Elohim

For what if some did not believe?...

[emphasis mine]

Some..read that, WLW, some.

All of man..not just Jews..are subject to the sin nature. And so *some* of all people groups will not believe.

Deal.


This is what reading the Illiad of the Greeks teaches. The Illiad is about War.

What is Homer teaching? The Trojan War as seen by the Greeks was a result of a war on Mt. Olympus. The physical war was a manifestation of the Metaphysical war!

To think Metaphysically is a Greek phenomena. The physical characteristics of the different major races are signs of the Metaphysical differences!!! Can you not see it.

And the devil who is fighting a metaphysical war with God must fight and destroy the PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION of the Good which is Europe! It is European Man that is in danger because it is European Man that created Christianity. Destroy European Man and You destroy Christianity---it is that simple!

This is Communist Ideology! When Karl Marx ended his manifesto with "All the workers of the world unite", he is declaring war on Europe! Communism with its race-mixing ideology is about destroying Europe!

The first in this program was about destroying the Monarchies of Europe.

Once the monarchies were out of the way, (principle: Nature abhors a vacuum), led the way for ideologues to control and dictate and lead Europe to its death!

Christianity is about saving souls---IN THIS LIFE and so Christians MUST care about the Natural Order! For the next generation also needs to be saved. Without the preserving of European man, there is no preserving of True Apostolic Christianity necessary for the salvation of souls!!!!!


It says in Scripture, "Man shall cleave to his Like"
WLW

I busted my ass trying to find this in scripture and I can't. Please supply the reference.
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To see this paradigm, I point to a metaphor implanted in nature by God to explicate this paradigm, the Butterfly.

How do you know that Elohim put that in nature to point *this* out? Perhaps, you are misinterpreting things, as you seem to always do.

There is a whale of a difference between Christianity and Judiasm.

Yes, there is a big difference between Christianity and Rabbinical Judaism. *yawn*

As C. K. Chesterton wrote, "The Faith is Europe". Destroy Europe, the Faith is destroyed as well.

Perhaps, and I'm not too acquainted with Chesterton so somebody else can correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps um..Chesterton meant that once Europe loses its Christian foundation, it loses its identity.

Pretty much, the opposite of what you mean.


This is what it's all about folks: Crystal Lake's:

"I couldn't care less about Western civilization."


There it is in a nutshell. As the Jews killed the physical Jesus, they also seek to kill the Metaphysical Jesus, the Church.

The destruction of Western Civilization is what Communism is all about! This is what Karl Marx is all about. This is what Judeo-Christianity is all about! Destroying Western civilization!


I busted my ass trying to find this in scripture and I can't. Please supply the reference.

Silly Bone Head, you should already know that Wheeler never cites chapter and verse--because there is no scriptural justification for his Greekophilia!


Bone Head, One must use the Christian Bible--The Septuagint, the LXX.

Here are the quotes:

""Every beast loveth his like, and every man loveth his neighbor. All flesh consorteth according to kind, and a man will cleave to his like. What fellowship hath the wolf with the lamb: so the sinner with the godly.


Book of Sirach, Ecclesiasticus, 13.15f.


""And all men are from the ground, and Adam was created of earth. In much knowledge the Lord hath divided them, and made their ways diverse. Some of them hath he blessed and exalted, and some of them hath he sanctified, and set near himself; but some of them hath he cursed and brought low, and turned out of their places. As the clay is in the potter's hand, to fashion it at his pleasure: so man is in the hand of him that made him, to render to them as liketh him best. Good is set against evil, and life against death: so is the godly against the sinner, and the sinner against the godly. So look upon all the works of the most High; and there are two and two, one against another."


Book of Sirach, Ecclesiasticus, 36.10f.

In order to know the Truth, one must read All of the Scripture. The so-called Apocryphya are really the Greek influenced, Greek writers of sacred literature. These were all rejected by the collators of the Masoretic text created after Jesus Christ. The Masoretic text is NOT the standard but the Septuagint is!


"I busted my ass trying to find this in scripture and I can't. Please supply the reference."

It's not in the Bible, it's in the Apocrypha:

The Book of Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), Chapter 13, v.19-20

"Every beast loveth its like: so also every man him that is nearest to himself. All flesh shall consort with the like to itself, and every man shall associate himself to his like."


Thanks for clearing that up, WLW.
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Because Josh, Jesus said,

Matthew, Ch. 21
“Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it."

The kingdom of God, i.e. the Faith, will be taken AWAY FROM you! Christianity is NOT a Jewish faith but Greek.

"Given to another Nation" What is that other Nation? Greek. In Werner Jaeger's Paideia, all of Europe is Hellenocentric. Wherever there is Greek, there is Christianity. Christianity is an Indo-European Religion--not Jewish. Christianity is the Fullness of the Faith. God is Trinitarian--The Golden mean between the strict monotheism of the Jews and the polytheism of the pagans.


you are a heretic being a judeoChristian

You don't know how happy it makes me feel that *you* have said that. haha

and so you have a corrupted understanding of Christianity itself,

Oh, please, you would have me believe that Yahshuah, Paul, Kepha (Peter), Matthew, etc all had European mindsets or something. Meanwhile, you reference a pre-Christian Greek philosopher like Aristotle to back yourself up.


The Septuagint is the Christian bible. The Greek speakers of Christianity turned to the Septuagint. Apostolic Orthodox Christianity uses the Septuagint.


Crystal. My dear child, and you are a child, really don't know anything do you?

do we name things after their childlike appearance or their adult appearance? We don't name trees by their seeds but seeds by their adult name. A seed is named an Oak seed for its adult stage is an Oak tree.

The same goes for Christianity. Christianity is the adult stage of the Kingdom of God. The Butterfly undergoes three stages; its larvae stage called the catepillar, its transformation stage called the cocoon, and then the beautifull and colorful adult stage the butterfly. Jesus and the apostles are the cocoon stage, the transformation stage.

The cocoon stage was from Jesus to the Edict of Milan when Christianity becomes fully Europeanized.

Why should we turn back like Lot's wife? Judiasm has been burned up. Jerusalem destroyed by the Roman legions---It is no more.

The faith has been transformed and transferred to a NEW Nation--that of the Greeks and the Indo-Europeans.


The so-called Apocryphya are really the Greek influenced, Greek writers of sacred literature.

If my memory is correct, the "scriptures" that were rejected were authored by men who did not know Jesus or the apostles, so they lacked authority.

It must have philosophy in order to operate correctly. It is thru philosophy that orders Theology!!!!

Sha'ul (Paul - sorry) wrote:

"See to it that no one makes a prey of you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary matters of the world, and not according to Messiah. Because in Him dwells all the completeness of the Mightiness bodily, and you have been made complete in Him, who is the Head of all principality and authority."


you are a heretic being a judeoChristian

And you are a heretic for ignoring and even demonizing Christianity's Judaic roots. You are merely playing Marcion to Crystal's Ebionism. But both Marcion and the Ebionites were judged as heretics by the Church fathers.


As the Jews killed the physical Jesus, they also seek to kill the Metaphysical Jesus, the Church.

Leave it to WLW to confuse Western Civilization with the Body of Messiah. I mean..wow.

This is what Judeo-Christianity is all about! Destroying Western civilization!

I would hate to deprive you of your glorious exultation, but I said that I didn't care, not that I sought to destroy Western civilization.



If my memory is correct, the "scriptures" that were rejected were authored by men who did not know Jesus or the apostles, so they lacked authority.


Actually, the apocrypha are Jewish writings, most from the inter-testamental period. Maccabbees, Sirach, Ecclesiasticus, and so on. How this helps WLW's contention that Christianity is not Jewish in its roots, I do not know.


Here is another metaphor. Bacteria can not grow without a medium. The medium is necessary.

In a lab, a scientist puts a medim in a petri dish. Then, the scientist injects the medium with a bacteria. If the medium is congenial, the bacteria grows and grows well.

Christianity is a bacteria! But this bacteria called Christianity needs a Medium. The Medium of Christianity is Europe! Destroy the medium and one destroys the bacteria!

Western Culture and Western civilization is the medium necessary for Christianity!!!! Only by studying the Natural Order can one see how reality works. Christianity can not survive in a Jewish medium! It is only in a Greek/European medium that Christianity can survive in. This is the importance of the Spanish Inquisition. This is the importance of segregation which is all important for Europeans and this is why the heresy of judeochristianity must be combatted strenously.


It is European Man that is in danger because it is European Man that created Christianity.-WLW

Since when did european man create Christianity ? Have you lost your sollective mind? Did you even read the Bible? Or was did you reject only what the Jews wrote?

WLW, Jesus was a Jew.

Jesus created Christianity, not the europukes.

Christianity means to follow Christ.
WLW, are you a Christian or a catholic worshipper? I have met your kind before.

Have you even read what Jesus said? Did I mention that Jesus is a Jew? He is the King of the Jews. He will reign as King of the Jews as well as King of the millenium world.


And St. Paul also said, "What does Nature teach..."

Please see the book, "Plato's Gift to Christianity".


The faith of Christ is not merely about "saving souls" (I defy you to give me chapter and verse). It is about submitting to and spreading the Kingdom of God (the Government of God). Salvation is a happy side effect, as we can't enjoy fellowship with our King without it!

YOU must submit to the King, not to political posing and ideological idiocy.

EVERY knee shall bow... Jesus is Lord, and I hear NOTHING of Christ in the cant that you spout, Wheeler.


You know the judeochristians know nothing about Christianity. This is the danger of these philosemites in Christianity and jewish influence in Christianity!


Western Culture and Western civilization is the medium necessary for Christianity!!!! Only by studying the Natural Order can one see how reality works. Christianity can not survive in a Jewish medium! It is only in a Greek/European medium that Christianity can survive in. This is the importance of the Spanish Inquisition. This is the importance of segregation which is all important for Europeans and this is why the heresy of judeochristianity must be combatted strenously.
WLindsayWheeler


Funny, Christianity is surviving quite well in India and China. And they are being persecuted. God does not need Europe. Christianity does not need Europe to grow and to spread.

Why do you put God in a box? When did Europe rule over God?


The Trojan War as seen by the Greeks was a result of a war on Mt. Olympus. The physical war was a manifestation of the Metaphysical war!

To think Metaphysically is a Greek phenomena.


So, Daniel was a Greek?


You know the judeochristians know nothing about Christianity. This is the danger of these philosemites in Christianity and jewish influence in Christianity!
WLindsayWheeler


WLW... did you eat paint chips as a kid?


Starbuck, it's called "wall candy".


I guess so there Mr. Aardvark..


K, Larry. Thanks for the correction. I thought that WLW meant the New Testament apocrypha, although I suppose "Ecclesiasticus" should have been a big clue, huh? *s*


Boy, you philo jews know nothing.

First, the god-man Jesus. Jesus is both FULLY God and Fully Man. That is NOT a Jewish concept. This is why the Jews rejected Jesus because Jesus is incomprehensible to Jews. They never had the concept of a God-man.

But in the Greek literature and mythology, there are many instances of God/man mixtures; i.e. Achilles and Hercules are products of gods laying with human females.

The doctrine of Jesus Christ and its defense is ONLY by Europeans!!! of the Greeks!

Second, the concept of the Trinity. The trinity is soley a product of Christianity---It is NOT Jewish! The Jews did not think this up! God in Three Persons? NOT a Jewish concept.

This is a Greek/European concept. Europeans think in Trifunctionality. Trifunctionality is intrinsic to european thought. The Concept, the theology and its defense is only by Europeans! It is NOT Jewish.

Third. Ever see Jewish thinking the in the Talmud. There is a problem. The Jewish answer is a myraid of possiblities some of them even contradictory.

NOT SO in Christianity. It is Only One answer to a problem! This is NOT Jewish thought but European.


I dunno, I'd rather think spiritually than metaphysically.


Christianity is totally a European religion! The kingdom of God was TAKEN AWAY FROM THE JEWS and given to the Europeans!


Without the preserving of European man, there is no preserving of True Apostolic Christianity necessary for the salvation of souls!!!!!

Gosh, how about trying to trust Elohim? Huh? Or how about actually believing "that if you confess with your mouth the Master Yahshuah and believe in your heart that Elohim has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved."

That is all that is necessary for salvation. Perfect theology or perfect understanding is not required.


No, Wheeler, the "Trinity" (the Godhead) is NOT a "product of Christianity".

It is the revelation of the nature of the covenant God, who went to cosmic extremes to be reconciled with His rebellious creation.


Christianity is totally a European religion! The kingdom of God was TAKEN AWAY FROM THE JEWS and given to the Europeans!
WLindsayWheeler


There is that repalcement theology again. That is a heresy.

Jesus being part of the Trinity of God, God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was taught by Paul.

The Aposltes knew Jesus was God and Man. And the Apostles were Jews. Are you telling me the Aposltes rejected Jesus because they were Jews? Or that God took it away from them?

WLW, God blessed all the nations through the Jewish nation called Israel. I didn't see anything about Europe being a blessing.



But in the Greek literature and mythology, there are many instances of God/man mixtures; i.e. Achilles and Hercules are products of gods laying with human females.


Greek demi-gods are nothing at all like the incarnation. In fact it was the incarnation, that God would come to Earth as a man, actually a man and not just in the appearance of man that was one of the stumbling blocks to Christianity being accepted to Europeans. Jews didn't have a real easy time with the concept either, for different reasons. To compare the Holy Spirit coming over Mary to Zeus bedding human women is simply blasphemy. There is no comparison.

Second, the concept of the Trinity. The trinity is soley a product of Christianity---It is NOT Jewish! The Jews did not think this up! God in Three Persons? NOT a Jewish concept.

I'm sure Paul and the other, Jewish, writers of the New Testament will be glad to hear this. In any event, two of the biggest influences in early Trinitarian thought were Athanasius and Augustine, both Africans.

It is Only One answer to a problem! This is NOT Jewish thought but European.

If true, this is hardly a strength.


WLW, did you read Revelations? Israel is a country that God protects. Europe tries to destroy Israel (along with the whole world. And loses. God comes a fights for the survival of Israel, not Europe. Europe is a cesspool in Gods eyes.


Hey Crystal, dja get my email?


Actually, Larry - WLW is sounding a lot like Justin Martyr. He dabbled in Greek philosophy, and that obviously influenced his writings, including the borderline anti-semitic portions of it. He was allied firmly with Rome, and used the same logic as WLW in reference to the destruction of Jerusalem.


"What does Nature teach" Crystal? You don't have a clue do you! None of you do! This is another thing different between Jews and Christianity.

Christendom is formed by the bible AND BY THE NATURAL LAW. Much of European thought is garnered around the Natural Law!

The Natural Law is NOT of Jewish concept, or mentality--it is totally Greek and throughout Europe! This is the formation of Christendom, Holy Tradition, the Bible (divine revelation) and the Natural Law. All these come together to form Christendom!

Two of these pillars of Christendom, Holy Tradition and the Natural Law are all rejected by Protestants and by Philosemites and by the Jews! This is why these people are dangerous to Western culture and Western civilization!

________________

Also notice that Crystal and the others here said about Western civilization:

"I couldn't care less about Western civilization."


These people don't care about Western Civ.

But say something about Israel and all hell breaks loose. Crystal, Bone Head, Larry--they ALL CARE MIGHTLY ABOUT Israel--Europe on the other hand--for them can go to Hell!

Their loyalty and concern is Israel Israel Israel.

Well, Crystal, Bonehead, Larry, you can't serve two masters. Either you will serve the one and hate the other.

Loyalty can not be split! It is the nature of Loyalty that Jesus alludes to.

You can't serve Israel and Europe. It is either-or. These philosemites, these judeo-christians have MORE loyalty to Israel than they do to Europe their mother.


oh, sorry, Aardvark. Haven't got there yet. I meant to look up a recipe, and then got a little carried away here. I'll check it out now.


Wheeler,
Take the happy pills and go back to the padded cell, before I page the orderlies!
I can't believe the rest of you are still trying to reason with this headcase.


I've got it down, Starbucks, Larry, Crystal, Bonehead, Aardvark, more concern over Israel than Europe.

Europe is to be destroyed. That is what taught. This is the message of Wesley Clark, the neo-cons, White liberals, commies and the Jews and their compatriots in Christian zionism, oh I mean Christians for Jewish Lebensraum.


Christianity is a bacteria!

That comparison literally made me laugh out loud. I'm not able to articulate why at the moment.


Larry--they ALL CARE MIGHTLY ABOUT Israel

Please don't tell me what I care about, trust me, you don't have clue. Just for the record, I attach no theological significance to Israel, but neither do I wish it any harm. I am not a "Christian Zionist.

Well, Crystal, Bonehead, Larry, you can't serve two masters.

You might think about that a little bit. The church and Christianity are not the same thing as Europe or any race of people.


WLW, you have SO ducked the question: Where is the AUTHORITY for your tradition? Is God so impotent, and His inspired Word so worthless, that you must invite pagan idol worshipers and homosexuals to inform your faith?


Galt, I'm not reasoning with him. I'm laughing at him. I seriously wish I could get as much amusement out of Pino.


The Church Aardvark The Church! Jesus set up the Church! Jesus did NOT set up the Bible!

St. Paul said, The Church is pillar of Truth.

The Authority is the Church resting in the apostolic succession of the Bishops!


You can't serve Israel and Europe. It is either-or. These philosemites, these judeo-christians have MORE loyalty to Israel than they do to Europe their mother.
WLindsayWheeler


I serve neither Europe nor Israel, I serve Jesus. And if he wants me to stand with Israel, then I shall stand with Israel.

Larry puts no Theological significance to Israel. Thats ok, he doesn't try to destroy them either.
I on the other hand do put a large amount of theological significance on the mere existence on Israel.

I don't wish the arrogant, Jew hating, homosexual loving, "please kill us you muslims we let in here by the millions" Europe any harm, she will do that to herself very easily.

Europe is a sickening contenint.. in a natural sense. America is not far behind Europe. I wouldn't go to europe ever.


Wheeler, I have no dog in the Israel hunt.
It is a secular state, period. No Temple, no sacrifices. When the majority in Israel rejected Messiah, he gave 'em a generation. (read Matthew 24). AD 70 was everybody out of the pool time. for the NATION.

OTOH, Every Jew and Gentile is my brother, in Adam.

Every Jew, and every Gentile, who obeys Jesus Christ, Yeshua ha Maschiach (feel free to correct) is my brother in Christ.

I like the plucky little nation, nonetheless, and I'm sure they will all sleep better for my having said that.


The Authority is the Church resting in the apostolic succession of the Bishops!
WLindsayWheeler


Chapter and verse, Sonny-Jim. Sorry, your opinion ain't good enough.


Hey Starbuck...the FOOD is good over there.


The food is good here too


We have food recipies from all over the world.


You know the judeochristians know nothing about Christianity.

I'm not sure I want to know anything about your kind of Christianity.

But in the Greek literature and mythology, there are many instances of God/man mixtures; i.e. Achilles and Hercules are products of gods laying with human females.

if you want to be strict with this thing, these "god-man" mixtures sounds more like the Nephilim to me.


I bow to your relentless logic, Starbuck!


Holy Tradition and the Natural Law are all rejected by Protestants and by Philosemites and by the Jews!

Shall I quote that scripture again? About being led astray by philosophy and vain deceit, and traditions of men, according to the elementary matters of the world?


I bow to your relentless logic, Starbuck!
The Aardvark


I gave up on logic when I became a father. I know there are so many ways to twist logic, that I gave up trying to use logic. Now I just try to make sense to myself. Usually doesn't work with other people though!


And what is with all the gay stuff.
Why are people applauding a sin? I don't hear people applauding murder, or stealing, or child abuse..

This is getting sickening.

(Hey Mr Aa, is my logic gettin worse yet?)


Sorry guy. I'm not a Protestantite, nor a Philosemoid.

By God's grace, I'm a Christian. Period.


Sorry guy. I'm not a Protestantite

That's a very Protestant thing to say.


No, Starbuck, you're just being a hater.

Stiffnecked.

Insensitive.

Prejudiced.

Besides, I stick corn in my ears.
It's an alternate eating style.

Naaaah, I think you ask a valid question.


Larry, I protest.


But say something about Israel and all hell breaks loose.

Israel? The nation is secular. Right now, they are actively trying to carve up the land in violation of the Torah. No, I would have no problem with you speaking against the state.

Their loyalty and concern is Israel Israel Israel.

My loyalty does not belong with any specific nation-state or ethnicity.

You can't serve Israel and Europe. It is either-or.

How about neither?

Or how about this doozy that will drive you really nuts, WLW, and will answer almost literally everything you have written here in this thread.

What if I say that I'm already a part of the spiritual Yisrael?

Let's look at the book of Ephesians:

..remember that you, once gentiles in the flesh, who are called 'the uncircumcision' by what is called 'the circumcision' made in the flesh by hands, that at that time you were without Messiah, excluded from the citizenship of Yisra'el and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no expectation and without Elohim in the world.
But now in Messiah Yahshuah you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Messiah.
For He is our peace, who has made both one, and having broken down the partition of the barrier,
having abolished the enmity - the Torah of the commands in dogma - so as to create in Himself one renewed man from the two
thus making peace,
and to completely restore to favour both of them unto Elohim in one body through the stake, having destroyed the enmity by it....

So then you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens in the set-apart ones and members of the household of Elohim,

having been built upon the foundation of the emissaries and prophets, Yahshuah Messiah Himself being the chief cornerstone..


Roxor, CL.


I wouldn't go to europe ever.

I wouldn't go there either..except for some of the old archaeological sites in Greece and Italy. The remnants of the old Greek civilization that WLW so adores is a fascinating thing to me.

"Heidi" was one of my favourite stories when I was a child..and since then I wanted to see some mountains, but I can go to the Rockies for that instead. It'd be a cheaper trip, anyways!


Starbuck...I forgot the winky-smiley thingie.


Oh watch out for the scary, scary gays!


I figured that out when Dumbledore asked Harry if he liked gladiator movies.

Yah, elderly, umarried - takes an unusual interest in young boys like Tom Riddle and Harry Potter.

Signs were there.

Though I think Rowling is having a bit of fun with her critics as the main goal.....damn good tweak at that, to certain religious zealots, that wanted her books banned...

Doesn't even have to get into Hagrid and beastiality....

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I think it is something wonderful that this whole marvelously intricate fictional world was created, and incredible financial success came, to a lower middle class person who went from being on the dole in 1990 to the richest woman in Britain, including the Queen, by 2006.
(I have 3 degrees of separation. My doctor ran into her in a pub writing away in 1990. The 'keep told him that "Joan" was serious, writing thousands of pages each year on some C S Lewis or Tolkien-type magical stuff, and used the pub because it was warm when she couldn't swing affording to heat her place. Doc and his wife found her interesting, and chatted with her a few minutes on being a writer after mentioning both of them had written children's books on medical and health matters - and she gave them a look at a page of her stuff and a few "touristy" things to look up if they were interested. Mid-90s he went back on vacation to the Midlands and Scotland. Stopped in the pub and looked for Joan again. The 'keep pointed to two Harry Potter Books propped center bar and said "Joan isn't here and she can afford her own heated flat now, and then some". Doc still didn't get it. Then it wasn't well known in the USA that the "J" in JK Rowling was for Joan Rowling. "And there I was having bought the darn books for nephews...no idea she would have ever gotten such success, but she led the American dream...just elsewhere.)

And the wealth will not stop with her last book. She has spinoff products and licensing that could generate new Harry Potter product from other writers. Tremendous impact. 175 country sales, 300 million distinct readers.

I've read 4 of the books. They are very good. My only disappointments are the Order of the Phoenix was too long and they would have been twice as pleasurable to read as a kid...

I saw Emma Watson on Conan O'Brien last week. Charming young woman. 17, worth over 25 million. No "LA Party Girl" - enjoys school and is thinking of a career other than acting. Took 8 Firsts in her exams (A+), "A"s in the other two. Oxford or the Sorbonne (more like Hermione)...but she decided to defer to commit to two more Harry Potter films, plus a ballet film. Becoming a serious looker.

Like Rowling, the world's her oyster...


But you can't deny the criticism can be made. (Pinotopolis)

He didn't. He just pointed out that "no one has any relevant basis for criticizing my views" (MM). Do you disagree?
Shild |

That was far too easy, wasn't it Shild?

Pinto's either being shifty or just plain vapid. I don't care to know which is correct. He'll just spout out more nonsense to "prove" his point.


Just thinking how a fairy with magical powers would work in a kid's book....


Moat of this thread is wasted jousting with WHeeler. Pity.


FYU

At the Values Voter Summit
the real on site vote went this way

Romney claiming 1,595 votes and Huckabee 1,565. However, among votes cast on-site at the Values Voter Summit, Huckabee, the clear favorite in a hall full of conservative voters, claimed more than half of the total ballots.


"What is extremism?

You want to know what extremism is? Well, I’ll tell you. Extremism is organized Jewry literally lecturing the rest of the world on the joys of diversity and multiculturalism, which as Dr. Tom Sunic has pointed out is a misnomer. What the Jews want for Gentile nations is multiracialism. They want populations which are as heterogeneous as possible, thus making them easier to control from the top by Zionist Jews. Foxman in one of his usual chutzpah-laden rants literally had the nerve, the gall to chastise contemporary Germans on the hazards of xenophobia and welcomed the more open „liberal“ immigration policies which were being pushed, of course, by organized Jews to dilute the native German population. Eva Herman lost her television job and was called a Nazi for simply suggesting that perhaps German women should have more children. The Jewish extremists have done the same in America, in England, in Canada, in France and in every other nation where they have gotten a foothold. They dare, DARE, to lecture us, demanding that we swing our gates open wide to the world. To even oppose ILLEGAL immigration is a moral crime in the eyes of the Jewsmedia.


Pulled from the World Peace blog, here at: http://worldpeace-phaedrus.blogs...sh- problem.html

I am much like this man. I was once, in his words, "I was raised in a Christian church and Jews, when they were discussed, were referred to as „God’s Chosen People.“ To attack Jewish motives, behavior or nobility was considered a particularly heinous act.

But then the realization hits:
and the whitewashed picture of the Jews given in church and in the Christian school I attended as a youth, did not gel with what I saw Jewish people actively DOING.

If one is a searcher for Truth, for a faithful representation of reality, what one sees quickly undermines what one is taught in church. That the "Church" which is supposed to be the "pillar of Truth" is engaging in lying and "whitewashing" is scandalous. First principle, The modern Church lies.
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But a return J. K. Rowling, Wesley Clark, and this attack upon "pure bloods".

I repeat:
Extremism is organized Jewry literally lecturing the rest of the world on the joys of diversity and multiculturalism, which as Dr. Tom Sunic has pointed out is a misnomer. What the Jews want for Gentile nations is multiracialism. They want populations which are as heterogeneous as possible, thus making them easier to control from the top by Zionist Jews.


And J. K. Rowling and Wesley Clark, both Europeans are agents of communist ideology--it is everywhere, in children's books, in academia, at the Pentagon, in the media, ---everywhere!


Back to Dumbledore....

He was dying from a curse anyway, and at least he's DEAD.


I thought greeks were just jews without money?

I'm so confused.


"And J. K. Rowling and Wesley Clark, both Europeans are agents of communist ideology--it is everywhere, in children's books, in academia, at the Pentagon, in the media, ---everywhere!
WLindsayWheeler"

Are there meetings that we can attend and do they serve Matzah balls? And is there penalty of any sort you don't like Matzah balls? Can you still be a member fo the conspiracy? What about circumcision? Can you be disqualified from membership if you've not been circumcized?


I am very happy -sincerely- for J.K. Rowling's huge success ("the American Dream, just elsewhere", indeed!).

Personally, I have been unable to read the books. I tried with the first, but like reading Clancy, her books, by sheer volume, are not a hobby; they are a commitment. I was not put off by oooooooooh, scary magic, just a sufeit of verbiage.

I daresay that she would never have made a pronouncement like "Dumbledore is gay" back in '90, regardless of author's intent. Now, she is secure behind her wall of money and celebrity, and can say what she wishes. "More money than sense" comes to mind.

From what I hear re: the future movies, one screenwriter had the idea that Dumbledore had a sad, sad love story in his past. Rowling lined through it and pencilled in "Dumbledore is gay", so the whole thing may be merely an end-run around Hollywood hackery, to retain Rowling's vision.

As my kids have not gone a-searching for the halls of Hogwarts to become wizards after reading the books, neither do I expect droves of chilluns to suddenly begin lisping and enrolling in cosmetology school after the Dumbledore revelation. (Sounds like a Ludlum novel: The Dumbledore Revelation. Hmmmmm....)

I think I'll break out the 'ol Underwood.


"But you can't deny the criticism can be made. (Pinotopolis)

He didn't. He just pointed out that "no one has any relevant basis for criticizing my views" (MM). Do you disagree?
Shild"

The relevant basis for an individual criticizing any other individual's views would be merely a different view.


Pinotopolis, you want to go out for a little gnosh, maybe?

Matzoh balls.......riot!


You know they make those matzahs from the blood of atheist children......
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"You know they make those matzahs from the blood of atheist children......
.
Bone Head "

You don't have your information correct. The authentic Matzah Balls are made from the blod of INFANT atheist children. My understanding is that by using this recipe you get a much lighter texture t the Ball....GEEZ! Everyone knows this, Bonehead.

In fact, didn't Wesley Clark publish the "1-2-3 Quick Meals Using The Blood of Athiest Infants"?


The relevant basis for an individual criticizing any other individual's views would be merely a different view. (Pinotopolis)

Ah, but your view is not relevant to MM's life; that is precisely the point.

You see, you are not actually capable of "criticizing" anyone's moral outlook. All you can do is say, "Your values are different from mine."

To "criticize" would require you to believe that one set of values is somehow superior to another, which would require an objective standard, in which you don't believe.

All you can do is point out the fact that your values and someone else's differ. This is a pointless statement of the obvious at best. It's only natural that people have different values, so why should your values affect anyone elses' lives (barring close friends and family, of course)?


"did you read Revelations?" - starbuck

you mean like this?:

Rev 2:9 "i know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan"

Rev 3:9 "i will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie..."

and let's not forget, "you are of your father, the devil.." from the gospels.

Who was he talking to and why? what might be the "traditions of men" that Jesus accused the Pharisees, Saducees, and Rabbis of following? Babylon? was Rome going to put Jesus to death? where did most "modern" "jews" come from? are they all direct decendents of abraham?
a majority of them? i'm just saying there are more questions than answers.

Suffice it to say that the "father of lies" has to be the ultimate counterfeit artist. It must look very much like the real thing - but not be.


Give em hell, shild...it's as obvious as it can be - the New Age religious dogmatic zealots seek to institute their non-objective reality over yours, by force of course, and call it "peace, love, harmony, and unity".

I call Bullshit. Tyrants.


Dr. Henry Mankow has brought up an old article of his on diversity:


We are all affected by "Diversity" but few understand its true nature.

Warning: It isn't pretty.

"Diversity" is a massive long-term behavior modification program that uses minorities to disinherit the majority.

In English, "Diversity" means acknowledging different races, religions and "sexual orientations."

In New World Order doublespeak, "Diversity" is a devious way to dilute and discriminate against the white, heterosexual Christian majority in Europe, Canada and the US.


At the end of the article, he writes:
"Let me remind you: the term "politically correct" originated in the Communist Party of the USSR in the 1920's. It is not a coincidence that the term is part of our lexicon today. The same bankers who controlled the USSR then, secretly control the USA, Canada and Europe today.

And who created Communism?

The rest of his article can be read here: http://www.henrymakow.com/ the_tr..._diversity.html

"Passion and Potter", how about "Communism and Potter"? The real story is the one no one has talked about the race-mixing communist ideology in the Harry Potter series.


It's Makow, Mr. Wheeler, and found at savethemales.ca


This is what the Zionist Federation of Germany wrote c. 1932:

"Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities. Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and internal sympathy ..."


But what is preached by J. K. Rowling, Wesley Clark, by our elites, by our Academia, by our think tanks, by our religious leaders, by our Church, by our political leaders, by conservatives, by libertarians, by our media, and by the everybody else?---Pure bloods are eeevilll and half-bloods are good! Race mixing is promoted everwhere and it is communist ideology.

Right there in bold, these Jews stated that "maintaining purity" is necessary. But what are we told today by all of our leaders, Christian, Jewish, Political and Academia?

The rest of this article can be found at the site "Secrets of Zion" and the article title is "Zionism and the Third Reich" @ http://just-another-inside-job.b...hird- reich.html


Let's out more material from "Zionism and the Third Reich":

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress, told a New York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith, I am a Jew... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17


I agree! Why can't we see that! I am all for the purity of the Jewish Race! Why can't I be for the purity of the European races!


"The relevant basis for an individual criticizing any other individual's views would be merely a different view. (Pinotopolis)

Ah, but your view is not relevant to MM's life; that is precisely the point.

You see, you are not actually capable of "criticizing" anyone's moral outlook. All you can do is say, "Your values are different from mine.""

If my morals are different than MM's then we can assume my values are probably too. But what you seem to be suggesting is that one can only criticize or judge another person's morals if the world view is the same. That's simply silly. For example, you might want to judge my morals and the actions that flow from them if I tell you I support abortion. What precludes you from doing this? I don't see anything.

The fact that I acknowledge that morals are relative does not preclude me from concluding that my or your values and morals are better than another persons. I'm merely saying saying, when I point out that morals are relative, that there is no absolute right or wrong. I'm not saying that some are not better than others.





"To "criticize" would require you to believe that one set of values is somehow superior to another, which would require an objective standard, in which you don't believe."

No, it does not require an objective standard. It only requires a favored standard. For example, there is not perfect golf swing. However, I could argue that a particular type of Golf swing would be better for a particular person and criticize or judge them for not utilizing it.




"All you can do is point out the fact that your values and someone else's differ. This is a pointless statement of the obvious at best. It's only natural that people have different values, so why should your values affect anyone elses' lives (barring close friends and family, of course)?
Shild"

I'm not suggesting that my values ought or should or can necessarily affect anyone else's life. They might. But they don't necessarily have to.


I don't agree that in order to be good and moral Christians, we should diaapprove of interracial marriage -- but I share Mr Wheeler's concern over the destruction of Old Europe and a significant part of his theology.

I would like to point out that the 'traditions of men' which Jesus condemned were Rabbinic, i.e. Jewish, traditions.

As for St. Paul, he was condemning false philosophy (I think (proto-)Gnostic). He was not condemning philosophy entirely, because every man engages in philosophy naturally (reasoned thought, forming a worldview), and that is not a sin.

I agree with Mr Wheeler's opponents that he is conspicuously silent about Christ, the Jew (Hellenized or not) whom we should all worship.

And I also find it odd that Mr Wheeler would have disapproved of his daughter marrying one of the Apostles. :D (If they'd still be alive, of course. I'm not talking about necrophilia here.)


The fact that I acknowledge that morals are relative does not preclude me from concluding that my or your values and morals are better than another persons. I'm merely saying saying, when I point out that morals are relative, that there is no absolute right or wrong. I'm not saying that some are not better than others.

Therein, as the Bard would say, lies the rub. Claiming that one thing -anything- is "better" (or "larger," "higher," "farther," or generally "more X") than another does require an objective metric upon which everyone involved can be expected to agree.

I like your golf example, so let's exlore that. In golf, there is an objective standard: the position of the hole. Everyone involved knows where the hole is and how far away it is, and they all agree that a swing that gets the ball close to the hole is objectively better than a swing that sends the ball far away from the hole.

When you say, "morality is relative," or "there is no standard of right and wrong," you are analogically saying that there is no hole, or conversely that anyone can put the hole anywhere he wants for his own swing.

In this case, it is impossible for one golfer to meaningfully criticize another's swing unles they both know where the swinger's hole is located. Even then, one swing is still not "better" than another because, if the golfer's swing is not getting close enough to his hole, he can simply move his hole to a position that suits his own swing.

The point is, judgement and criticism require a standard. The critic's standard -and therefore judgement- is meaningless unless one of two conditions is met:
1) Both parties agree to the standard, like in a golf game where all the participants agree to the rules, or
2) The standard, and it's status as important and relevant to the parties in their current context, has autonomous existence, like in a PGA golf game where there are official written rules and referees.


Laws against interracial marriages are from the Natural Law. It is part and parcel of the laws of the states. Good Christians should be Law-abiding Christians and that means obeying divine/Church law and Secular law! True Orthodox Apostolic Christianity is about obeying the Natural law just as much as the Divine Law! Not all law comes from on high. For instance, Seat-belt laws. To be a good and moral christian should we protest seat-belt laws because it doesn't come from the Bible?

In the Old Order of Christendom there were two sets of laws, the res divina and the res publica. Both have authority. Laws against interracial marriage is just part of the Natural Law that should be upheld as good citizens of our tribes.

My defense of European civilization is my defense of Jesus Christ the Jew. So he is a Jew---soooo what? That He died so that we all may have eternal life? He had to have come from somewhere and be born into a particular tribe. I thank God everyday that Jesus was a Jew, because then us Europeans would NOT have the responsibility and the curse for killing Him.

Jesus had to enter the world, and HAD to be killed. Somebody had to do the dirty deed and thank God he was born Jewish so the Jews had to kill Him.

I thank God everyday that Jesus was a Jew!!!!! Thank God!!!!!

You know I laugh when my people bitch and moan about Jesus being born a Jew-they really don't know what they are talking about--they should be really really really grateful that God decided to send his Son thru the Jews instead of Us Japthites!!

Yes, I would disapprove that my daughter would marry an apostle. The whole essence of our time here on earth is to learn obedience. Obedience to the Res divina and TO the Res publica. The Apostles would have known to marry their own and my daughter would be married to her own tribesman.

Christianity is a bacteria not the end all or be all. Christianity exists within the Natural Order and so it must co-exist with it not undermine it or to change it.


I agree! Why can't we see that! I am all for the purity of the Jewish Race! Why can't I be for the purity of the European races!
WLindsayWhee


You can be but not at the expense of someone else. What are you going to do if a couple from 2 different races get married? Kill them? Kill their child? Banish them? Because it is going to happen, large scale or small scale.


Guys, stop poking at the retarded squidling of Dagon that washed up on the beach. You're only encouraging it to spew more filth.


I like the plucky little nation, nonetheless, and I'm sure they will all sleep better for my having said that.
The Aardvark

Hmmmm. In my view, they are not any sort of "nation". Theyare a grouop of armed invaders. They are people presently occupying contested territory, using the military and financial resources of the United States and England. That they claim divine right to the area should only be chuckled at, since amoral people can - and will - claim anything to get their way.

Seems to me that Christians have - for centuries - allowed this small group of "Uncompleted Christians" to manipulate their thinking and attitudes. So it does not speak well of them that they can be so easily maniplated. It's quite difficult to want to belong to a such a group, one that has been so easily fooled and snookered over the centuries.

As for sleeping better? People sleeping on a bed in a stolen home - sitting on occupied territory - will not sleep well, no matter what anyone says.


I would like to point out that the 'traditions of men' which Jesus condemned were Rabbinic, i.e. Jewish, traditions.

That is your interpretation, although Paul has spoken against the philosophy of the pagans as well(about the wise man and the scholar of this age, and the Greeks who seek after "wisdom" but call the faith foolishness). No, the traditions of men are not just the rabbinic traditions.

You fail to remember that it is not just the rabbinic jews who are against us, but it is the *world*. The world system as ruled by the devil, HaSatan. All traditions of men, all philosophies originating in the heart of man is suspect, even the non-Jewish ones.

If you want true philosophy and wisdom, go to Ecclesiastes and Proverbs.


I can see it now, a new line of
HP books. Homo Potter!

Book 1: The Hairy Philosopher Stones.
Book 2: Shh! It's our little secret.
Book 3: The S&M prisoner.
Book 4: The An#s of fire.
Book 5: The Order of the Phallus.
Book 6: The Royal member.
Book 7: The Deathly Bug Chasers.

Now if JKR really wanted to have controversy, she could have gone another route. Her character she created was once gay, saw the folly of his way, and is now against that destructive choice.

But I suppose that is too controversial.


But then the realization hits:
and the whitewashed picture of the Jews given in church and in the Christian school I attended as a youth, did not gel with what I saw Jewish people actively DOING.


You've gotta be kidding me. While anti-semitism has pretty much been exhausted, the Jews are not whitewashed at all in any church I've heard of!

Where do you think all this bluster against "Jewish laws" comes from? From people who whitewash the Jews? I don't think so.

You are deluded.


I thank God everyday that Jesus was a Jew, because then us Europeans would NOT have the responsibility and the curse for killing Him.

You are..just..totally out of it, WLW. I mean..I am continually amazed. Look, I have to get off now, but if I can, I'll be back later to deal with this.


>To "criticize" would require you to believe that one set of values is somehow superior to another, which would require an objective standard, in which you don't believe.

There need not be an objective standard to criticize someone else's values. If you believe your values are superior, that is plainly enough. One can say that eating child-flavored matzo balls is wrong, and it is for the person saying it.


Hmmmm. In my view, they are not any sort of "nation". Theyare a grouop of armed invaders. They are people presently occupying contested territory, using the military and financial resources of the United States and England. That they claim divine right to the area should only be chuckled at, since amoral people can - and will - claim anything to get their way.

Seems to me that Christians have - for centuries - allowed this small group of "Uncompleted Christians" to manipulate their thinking and attitudes. So it does not speak well of them that they can be so easily maniplated. It's quite difficult to want to belong to a such a group, one that has been so easily fooled and snookered over the centuries.

As for sleeping better? People sleeping on a bed in a stolen home - sitting on occupied territory - will not sleep well, no matter what anyone says.
Bobert


Where did you get the idea they stole that land? Huh? Read your history. For many years before WWII the jews were migrating to palistine. They bought the property at terribly inflated prices from the arabs. The arabs thought the jews the fools and sold it to them left and right. Then when they declared statehood, the arabs couldn't stand that and attacked. The Jews fought for their land and lives and won in 1948 and then again in 1953 and then again in 1967 and again in 1973. And they will again eventually.

If you hold that the Jews have no claim to their land then fuck you. You get the hell out of this country because you have even LESS of a claim then the Jews do for Israel. And if you don;'t like that, then FUCK YOU ANYWAYS. I dislike complete fucktards as yourself. Always spreading shit about the jews. If the jews don;t have a claim then neither do the arabs. The british are the ones that split the middleeast up after WWI when they brought down the ottman empire. Stupid dumb ass. And where do you want the jews to go? HUH? There are no palisteninans. The ones calling themselves that are either arabs or from egypt. That whole "jews stole that land" is a friggin lie. The USA didn't help in 1947 or '53 or '67, they did in 1973.

Go stuff it Bobart.

Bobert, you are just one of those liberal fucktards that believes israel has no rights to their land. They won that land by price


They won that land by price and by blood. Why don't you go try take it away from them. You think you're so fucking much. You make me wish I could reach into my monitor and throttle the living shit out of you.

Hey Bobart, why don;'t you go live with those damn camel jockeys? You will love their new hair style they give you.


There need not be an objective standard to criticize someone else's values. If you believe your values are superior, that is plainly enough. One can say that eating child-flavored matzo balls is wrong, and it is for the person saying it. (Ellis)

The emboldened clause does require an objective standard with which to determine whether one value set is truly "superior" to another.


Laws against interracial marriages are from the Natural Law. It is part and parcel of the laws of the states. Good Christians should be Law-abiding Christians and that means obeying divine/Church law and Secular law! True Orthodox Apostolic Christianity is about obeying the Natural law just as much as the Divine Law!

I don't see how the Natural Law is against interracial marriage. I can see how it is against homosexuality or bestiality (in both of which cases no procreation is possible, and the consummation of marriage is therefore divorced from its natural goal), but people of different races can have children together.

The whole essence of our time here on earth is to learn obedience.

You forgot trust in Christ, which is an important part of the lessons we have to learn as well.

Oh, and I believe you didn't respond to a point made previously by someone else: St. Augustine, the 'Western theologian', was an African. What do you think of that?

That is your interpretation, although Paul has spoken against the philosophy of the pagans as well(about the wise man and the scholar of this age, and the Greeks who seek after "wisdom" but call the faith foolishness). No, the traditions of men are not just the rabbinic traditions.

St. Paul also quoted a pagan poet approvingly. The philosophy he spoke against was not philosophy per se, but false philosophy in contradiction to the message of Christianity.

You fail to remember that it is not just the rabbinic jews who are against us, but it is the *world*.

I don't fail to remember that; I merely said that the traditions Jesus condemned were rabbinic ones. False pagan traditions were condemned by St. Paul, not by Jesus. (And both Jesus and St. Paul recognized that there was also a lot of good in what those people believed, even though certain traditions were wrong or misguided.)

The world system as ruled by the devil, HaSatan. All traditions of men, all philosophies originating in the heart of man is suspect, even the non-Jewish ones.

Yes... We should exercise discernment. Not condemn wholesale and retreat, but be cautious and ever on our guard.

Until, of course, we are convinced that certain people can make authoritative statements about a subject, especially one as important as the deeper meaning of life, metaphysics, and life after death. All Christians agree that Christ had such authority. Mr. Wheeler would include the Roman Catholic Church as well. I'm not sure yet, but I'm leaning toward the Catholic position.

It can't be as far off as Unitarianism, in any case...


Is Harry Potter Jewish?


British conference to examine book's origins; presenter: Harry's a 'yiddishe neshama'

By Jeremy Last, EJP Published: 04.10.05, 11:39 / Israel Culture




The bizarre question of Harry Potter’s Jewish identity is to be discussed at a three-day conference covering the entire spectrum of the magical children’s book.


Originally written for a young audience, the Harry Potter series has become a phenomenon enjoyed by adults and children alike.


Over the weekend of 29-31 July this year around 250 Potter enthusiasts will gather at a venue in Reading University, UK, to explore the book which follows Harry as he grows up as a wizard at a school in England.


One of the presentations will focus on the question of whether Harry Potter is, in fact, a nice Jewish boy.

Presenter Amy Miller believes the wizard created by JK Rowling has created “has a yiddishe neshama” -a Jewish soul.


“That Harry Potter could be called ‘a nice Jewish boy’ makes many people laugh, including me. He doesn't wear a skull cap, or go to Hebrew school, or keep kosher,” she said.


“But he cares about how others are feeling, he is kind, and he defends his beliefs; these are a very few examples of proper Jewish behavior.”


Miller’s presentation will be one of a number of discussions on the religious persuasion of the character who is soon to be featured in the sixth and penultimate book.


Turgonian, on the case of the natural law in regard to interracial marriages is that in the animal world, the general rule, (and I underline 'general') is that animals of a species breed with its own. That is the natural law. That laws (or customs) of many people across many climes and places have similar laws.

The Mosaic law is very very clear on this matter. Not only were the Hebrews forbidden to marry gentiles they COULDN'T INTERMARRY WITHIN THEIR TRIBES!!!

Many people miss this point; there are 12 Hebrew tribes; the tribe of Judah couldn't take daughters from the tribe of Benjamin and the tribe of Levi couldn't take wives from the tribe of Rueben.

It is very funny that you notice that the Old Testament, sanctions slavery and condemns interracial slavery and the Modern Catholic Church condemns slavery and condones interracial marriage. This I find amazing and wonder why the disconnect within the Catholic Church.

That the truth of the wrongness of interracial marriage is seen in the natural world, in most societies and in Divine revelation. It is a general rule and therefore a part of the Natural Law.


ot only were the Hebrews forbidden to marry gentiles they COULDN'T INTERMARRY WITHIN THEIR TRIBES!!!

Wrong, there was no stricture against marrying someone from another tribe, with one exception; when a women was the heir (i.e. had no brothers) she had to marry within her tribe. Nor was there a general ban on marrying gentiles, as the stories of Ruth and Rahab makes clear. Not to mention Bathsheba.


That the truth of the wrongness of interracial marriage is seen in the natural world, in most societies and in Divine revelation. It is a general rule and therefore a part of the Natural Law.

There is no natural law against interracial marriage, as animals have no concept of "race", or "marriage" for that matter.


Starbuck, Bobart is right in some ways! Even before WWII, there was fighting between the Arabs and the immigrant Jews.

Here is an interesting story about immigration and how dangerous it is. The Immigrating people can and do displace the indigenous people!

Jews had no right to the land--they conquerored it like other people have done.

The State of Israel has no legitimacy whatsoever. For the killing of Jesus and not obeying the Word of God (which is Jesus) they are condemned to wander--to be stateless--to be foreigners in a foreign land.

Zionism is only Jewish Lebensraum. Zionism only got its push because of Holocaust. I found it quite humourous when I read a sidebar on a website and it had a picture of Hitler with the words "The real founder of Zionism"! It's true, no religious Jew before WWII thought it good to return to Palestine. It was anathema. They knew the curse and knew not to return.

WWII changed all that.

In a spiritual sense, there is no legitimacy for the State of Israel. All the Jews need to leave and return back into the Gentile world.

True Jerusalem is Heaven--The Kingdom of God---not some place on the Mediterrianean!


There are exceptions to the rule but the general rule in Mosaic law is that one had to marry only within the tribe. The only reason for Boaz to marry Ruth the Moabitess is that she was already the wife of his brother. He took her to fulfill the law.

Again the Golden Mean. But there are countless laws against intermarriage in the Bible.


Of course Larry, animals have no concept of race or marriage. Come on and have some sort of sophistication will-ya? Please?

Animals run on instinct. Who put that instinct in them? God did. God created the Natural Order and when you look upon the Natural Order, God has everything in Order and order is kept that all things keep their station and instinct drives them to their own.


1 Kings 11:1-2 - But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; Of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.

Ezra 10:2-3 - And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing. Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

Ezra 10:10-12 - And Ezra the priest stood up, and said unto them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, to increase the trespass of Israel. Now therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives. Then all the congregation answered and said with a loud voice, As thou hast said, so must we do.

Nehemiah 9:1-2 Now in the twenty and fourth day of this month the children of Israel were assembled with fasting, and with sackclothes, and earth upon them. And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers.

Nehemiah 13:23-30 - In those days also saw I Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab: And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews' language, but according to the language of each people. And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves. Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did outlandish women cause to sin. Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives? And one of the sons of Joiada, the son of Eliashib the high priest, was son in law to Sanballat the Horonite: therefore I chased him from me. Remember them, O my God, because they have defiled the priesthood, and the covenant of the priesthood, and of the Levites. Thus cleansed I them from all strangers, and appointed the wards of the priests and the Levites, every one in his business…’


"But the elders of Jerusalem being very uneasy that the brother of Jaddua the high priest, though married to a foreigner, should be a partner with him in the high priesthood quarrelled with him; for they esteemed this man’s marriage a step to such as should be desirous of transgressing the marriage of strange wives, that this would be the beginning of a mutual society with foreigners, although the offense of some about marriages, and their having married wives that were not of their own country, had been an occasion of their former captivity, and of the miseries they then underwent; so they commanded Manasseh to divorce his wife." ~ Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, 11.8.2


There are exceptions to the rule but the general rule in Mosaic law is that one had to marry only within the tribe.

No there wasn't. If you think there was something in the Mosaic law that forbade inter-tribal marriages, please cite it.


Zionism is only Jewish Lebensraum. Zionism only got its push because of Holocaust. I found it quite humourous when I read a sidebar on a website and it had a picture of Hitler with the words "The real founder of Zionism"!

Is there any end to your historical ignorance? The modern Zionist movement got its start in France, with the Dreyfus affair. The movement was started by Theodore Herzl, with the publishing of the book "The Jewish State" in 1894, considerably before the Third Reich.


Through the policy of Constantine Germans had become a predominant element in the Roman army, and German officers had risen to the highest military posts and had exercised commanding political influence. Outside, German peoples were pressing on the frontiers, waiting for opportunities to grasp at a share of the coveted wealth of the Roman world. The Empire was exposed to the double danger of losing provinces to these unwelcome claimants who desired to be taken within its border, and of the growing ascendancy p3 of the German element in the army.1
(1)The Roman fear of barbarisation is marked by a law of A.D. 370 or 373, which forbade marriages between provincials and barbarians on pain of death. C. Th. iii.14.1.

Fr http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Tha...AT/ 1*.html#ref1
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In the early days of the Roman Republic intermarriages were forbidden between patricians and plebeians. As well, particians would often forbid any trading between them and the plebeians. These restrictions were relaxed as time passed, and the number of patricians decreased.


"Deut. 23:2 is inaccurately translated as: "One of illegitimate birth shall not enter the assembly of the LORD; even to the tenth generation none of his descendants shall enter the assembly of the LORD." According to Strong's Concordance, the Hebrew word mamzer means not what we would call a bastard but a person of mixed lineage, or "mongrel." God commands that a mongrel must not enter the congregation of Israel. Jephthah was the son of a harlot (Judges 11:1-2) and a bastard, but he was not a mamzer, or mongrel, since he was allowed to enter the congregation."

Quote From "Alleged Examples of Interracial Marriage in the Bible"

• by H. Seabrook •


Would asking for a Christian source be to much to ask for?


This just in...

Dumbledore--

Still gay.


Yes, Larry, Theodore Herzel started the movement in France----BUT IT WENT NOWHERE until good ol' Adolf came around.

See there is a saying that "One must break a few eggs to make an omelet". Well, the Zionist Jews instigated WWII for the express purposes of instigating, of impressing the need for, a Jewish State! WWII was planned well in advance in order to sacrifice a few of themselves in order to create the Jewish State! The whole purpose of the millions of deaths was in order to convince non-interested Jews into creating a Jewish state!

The Neutrai Karta are the remnants of those Old Order Jews that thought the Zionist State is wrong! And they are right! The teachings of the Neutrai Karta was the valid and universal opinion of the grand majority of Jews before WWII.


Well, the Zionist Jews instigated WWII for the express purposes of instigating, of impressing the need for, a Jewish State! WWII was planned well in advance in order to sacrifice a few of themselves in order to create the Jewish State!

You're a lunatic, and only that keeps you from being a gross heretic, blasphemer and embarrassment to Christianity. Please forget that I ever tried to talk to you.


In the first five books, the Hebrews are commanded to marry only within their own tribe such as Numbers 36.6

"...for the children of Israel shall steadfastly continue each in the inheritance of his family's tribe."

and again at LV 21.15,

"He shall take for a wife a virgin of his own people. And he shall NOT profane his seed among his people."


Larry, Do you know that when Hitler came to power in 1932, the Jews declared an economic boycott of Germany. An economic boycott is a declaration of War. The Jews immediately declared war on Germany. Furthermore, you should study Winston Churchill. There was no reason to declare war on Germany when Hitler invaded Poland.

This from Ziopedia.com

"A congenital alcoholic born to an American-Jewish mother and a degenerate gambling-addicted alcoholic fortune-hunter of an English aristocrat, who subsequently contracted syphilis and succumbed to syphiloma of the brain exacerbated by severe alcoholism. Having lost all his money at the New York Stock Exchange in 1929, as a bankrupt, Churchill was also about to lose his Parliamentary seat, but remained in Parliament as a paid agent of the Jewish Board of Deputies. The Inland Revenue never learned how much money he received as an anti-British spy and traitor, who dragged his unwilling country into WW2 on behalf of the Rothschilds & Co and bankrupted Britain in the process."

Winston Churchill was a paid Jewish stooge. He was Jewish and he declared War on Hitler and he was a failed politician until Jewish money paid for his rehabilitation.

And then Franklin Delanno Roosevelt instigated the attack on Pearl Harbor in order to bring America on the side with Britain! When Japan attacked America, it was the green light to attack Germany.

Ohh, and by the way, Dr. Henry Makow, a Jew, also has written on the same stuff. So there is some of us Lunatics out there.


Larry, I've been saying he's a lunatic for a while now. If only you'd listened in the beginning it would have saved a lot of trouble.


"You shall observe my law; thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with one of a different kind; and thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with diverse seed; and thou shalt not put upon thyself a mingled garment woven of two materials". Septuagint, Lev 19.19

A Hebrew wrote this not a Nazi. What does this teach? Aren't all cows cows? Aren't all cows derived from one primal cow? Aren't all cows the same?---Then why weren't the Hebrews allowed to mix cattle breeds? Is this not the same argument they use about Humans?
Well, someone could argue that this only pertains to cows. But what is the principle behind the law?

St. Paul uses another Levitical Law about animals and applies it to the church; i.e. at Deuteronomy 25.4, it says, "Thou shalt not muzzle the oxen when he treadeth out the corn". This animal law, St. Paul applies to humans.

Isn't it the same for mixing of human races!?! If we are not to mix breeds of cows (and they could all easily breed with each other), are we to mix the human races?

I don't think so.

If everything was mixed, what does that bring about?---homogeneity---not diversity. If every cow breed was mixed, then all differences will be erased and breeds would disappear which would be disastrous to having cows specifically for milk or beef. Segregation keeps diversity.


Let's see WWII started in 1933 when the Jews declared war on Germany. Here is a link that shows the Newspaper Headlines declaring that the Jews have declared war on Germany: http://www.wintersonnenwende.com...es/ jdecwar.html

Hitler didn't want to attack the West but wanted to attack the East. He wanted Lebensraum in the East, land. Just like countless powers throughout history conquerored other people and land to grow on. Germany was no different.

But when Churchill, along with France, declared war on Germany, Hitler had no choice but to invade France.

Here is an article on Churchill's instrangicence: http://www.thecivicplatform.com/...ly-rejected-it/

Here is another "Churchill and the Jews": http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/ ant...llonJews_4.html

Here is the link of a book review on how FDR instigated the attack on Pearl Harbor so he could get the US into WWII: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2...g2/ denson8.html

Why do you think fellows that Rudolf Hess flew to England? And why do you think they kept in jail until his death? Rudolf Hess flew to Britain to make a last ditch effort to make peace between Germany and England. Then, he was thrown in jail never to see the light of day again!

That is what you get with ZOG!


Jews...

Jews...

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See ... Jewwww.

I wonder how some of you are going to feel when they, the Jews, let the antichrist sit on the throne of the temple.

"WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR!"


"Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich."



I post again the Article "Zionism and the Third Reich": http://just-another-inside-job.b...hird- reich.html

The Holocaust was NOT planned until 1942! It didn't start till then! This is when the National Socialists went for broke!
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Furthermore can you see the anybody doing a "holocaust" as the Germans did? Do you think the French could have done it? NO Do you think the Italians could have pulled it off? NO Do you think any body else could have?

What is the German racial proclivity? They're anal. They do everything to a 'T'. They are effecient. They can be heartless. Just knowing German racial proclivities, they were the perfect patsies to carry out a Holocaust.


And let's dispel this notion that Germany bombed England---IT WAS ENGLAND THAT BOMBED CIVILIAN TARGETS IN GERMANY FIRST!!!!

We have all been taught that Germany instigated the bombing of cities---no that is all a lie! Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie

Here is the article: http://www.thecivicplatform.com/...by-the-british/


What is the German racial proclivity? They're anal.

:S Much like 'the hole thing is gay', this misspelling (I assume -- I don't know what you meant, actually) takes us closer to the initial topic again...

I don't know, Mr. Wheeler... It sounds far too much like a conspiracy theory, and those are usually wrong. Lots of people believe that the American government was behind the 9/11 attacks, but few really sane people believe that... Do you believe the Jews were behind it? :D

And you haven't answered the point that St. Augustine was an African yet. You can't go on ignoring it.


Anyway, going back to Dumbledore -- this could be twisted to be consistent with the 'Subtle Christian Message Hermeneutic', since he always remained 'in the closet', as far as we know. Apparently, Mrs. Rowling has favourably depicted a homosexual who never spoke up about his true identity or demanded emancipation.

Let's wait until the Lobby catches up on THAT...


No, I don't believe the Jews were behind 9/11 only Osama. But the conspiracy of Osama and the hijakers worked didn't it? Conspiracies do work and are real. Yes, I am leary of conspiracy theories myself but knowing freemasonry, long term planning of a conspiracy is not so hard.

It is not so much a direct conspiracy but an evil agenda that people subscribe to that takes centuries to unfold.


Wheeler is like the Neo-Spartanist cosmos, only filled with rage.


Despite all of the gnashing of teeth, I think this was a pretty shrewd move on Rowling's part. Given that nobody in this thread has actually discussed the books' contents (and a few folks have said that they haven't read them), I don't think that she lost much fandom with this announcement. (It's already got all that witchcraft in it, and all.) But it's certainly a way to gain fandom, and to hold the attention of sweaty-palmed female fanfic authors.

As I did read the books, I thought I might as well correct the exception to the above, the one instance wherein someone did refer to the books' contents.

WLindsayWheeler: If you notice VD, the whole story revolves around marxist political correctness. The whole plot line revolves around "Half-bloods" persecuted against the "Pure bloods" and the Pure Bloods are eeeevillll.
No. Harry's father is a pureblood; the entire Weasley family are purebloods; Neville Longbottom and his parents are purebloods; Sirius Black is a pureblood. The series villain, Lord Voldemort, is not a pureblood.


@ grendelkhan, from Wikipedia, J. K. Rowling herself states explicity::::

"Rowling has stated that the books comprise "a prolonged argument for tolerance, a prolonged plea for an end to bigotry"


Can anything be any clearer!!!! Out of the Horse's Mouth--comes clarity. It is about "tolerance" and ending bigotry. This is all Political Correctness, hence Marxism!


I again refer to Wikipedia:::::

Blood purity

Wizards in general tend to view Muggles with a combination of condescension and suspicion; however, for a few, this attitude has evolved into bigotry. These characters tend to class those around them based on the number of magical ancestors they had, with "pure-blood" wizards (those with an entirely-magical bloodline) at the top of the hierarchy, "half-blood" wizards in the middle (those with both wizard and Muggle ancestry), and "Muggle-borns" (those with no magical ancestors) at the very bottom. Supporters of blood purity believe pure-bloods should control the wizarding world, and don't consider Muggle-borns real wizards. Some have even gone so far as to murder them or demand that they should not be taught magic. Most blood-purity-believers are pure-blood themselves, though it should be noted that Voldemort, one of the most radical supporters of blood purity ever known, is himself half-blood. Also, very few, if any, true "pure-blood" families actually exist as many have intermarried into the Muggle-born population to stop the families from dying out. Many of these families have covered this up, however. One example of this is the removal of certain members from the Black family tree.[HP5]


Please go to the Wikipedia site, look up Harry Potter and it is RIGHT THERE ''''BLOOD PURITY'''''.

So Mr. grendelkhan You are all washed up and nowhere to go!


It is worthy to note that that in the Motiffs of the storyline, Wikipedia leads with "Blood Purity"!!!! Doesn't that tell you something.

The theme of the storyline is "Death". Well, J. K. Rowling is certainly right! The agenda of "tolerance" and the agenda of ending "bigotry" is the Death of the West. She writes of death because she is promoting death unconsciously! She is an Eve redux. The apple is her candy-wrapped fantasy stories selling death to children! Her premonition, her sentiment of death, is played out in her communist ideology planted throughout her books!

She thinks she is so smart but she is really decieved and gives out death like a witch with a poison apple.


WLindsayWheeler: Can anything be any clearer!!!! Out of the Horse's Mouth--comes clarity. It is about "tolerance" and ending bigotry. This is all Political Correctness, hence Marxism!
You stated that the story was, quote, '"Half-bloods" persecuted against the "Pure bloods" and the Pure Bloods are eeeevillll'. It's not that purebloods are the villains, it's that bigots are. What you describe is something that you would presumably be all for, what with someone's ancestry determining whether they're good or evil--only I would assume you'd cast the "purebloods" as the white hats and the "halfbloods" and "mudbloods" as the black hats. It is, however, not the story that we're talking about.


Again about the motifs of the Harry Potter series:::::

"Houses

Like most boarding schools, Hogwarts is divided into four separate houses, named after the four Hogwarts founders, and students are sorted into their respective houses at the start of their first year. They are Gryffindor, named after Godric Gryffindor, which favours courage; Ravenclaw, named after Rowena Ravenclaw, which favours cleverness; Hufflepuff, named after Helga Hufflepuff, which favours fairness and loyalty; and Slytherin, named after Salazar Slytherin, which favours ambition and Blood Purity (See above). Upon arrival, Harry, along with his friend Ron, and Hermione, who would later be their friend, are sorted into Gryffindor.


Who are the evil people in the series and in the movies????? You stupid people. It is the Slytherins!!! Even the name is disgusting! Why is that? Because JKRowling has an agenda of communism.

It is Nowonder that Britain is dying!


@grendelkhan And what causes this bigotry? It is Race. Why bring Blood purity into a story at all? Because this is what consumes the Jews? Why would Wesley Clark, a decorated soldier, a Major General, be using the words "pure" ethnic states? It is because this is what consumes the Jews!

Why is this "Blood purity" in a children's books anyway?

This word "bigotry" is a code word for "volkenhass". Volkenhass is throughout the Natural Order. God implanted this so-called bigotry in man at the Tower of Babel after man refused to stay in his racial groups!

J. R. Rowling is a Leveller in the classical British sense! I bet she hates the British Royalty and Aristocracy!!! She hates anything superior! And that is why she is teaching this "blood purity" thing! It is a subtle attack upon the British nobility!

As is noted Mr. grendelkhan, in the above quotes from the Book of Sirach:

"Good is set against evil, and life against death: so is the godly against the sinner, and the sinner against the godly. So look upon all the works of the most High; and there are two and two, one against another."



Do you understand this "and there are two and two----ONE AGAINST ANOTHER! This is how God set up the world. This is how God set up the Natural Order. And the Communist and the Jews with their Tikkun Olam wish to unmake the Natural Order and the strife God implanted therein.

Male against female. Rich against poor. Old against Young. Jew vs Gentile. French against English limeys. Germans against French. Dorians against Ionians.

The whole world is divided. And it can NOT be cured by Socialist or Communist ideology! Some people ARE F#@$%#@ better than others!!!! Get over it!


Harry Potter is a sentimental sap. A creation of the Feminine mind! He is thin, weak, but has alot of "caring emotion" just like a F#$@%@#$ woman.

What makes a man a man is ambition. And the strength of a man, is his pedigree to some extent! Superior gifted men.

The ancient battlefields of Man's history has proven these people to be superior which evolved into the Royalty guiding their specific Tribes.

It is NATURE and nurture. The two together. Some people, BY NATURE, are BETTER than others! oooooh gasp! Welcome to the REAL world.


I forget "bigotry". The hatred of bigotry comes from COVETOUSNESS!

What is the Last Commandment?

And since it is the Last---It is also has the greatest sin!!!!

"Thou shalt NOT Covet"!

What does the Common Man covet????

The status of the Nobility!

Not only are Male and Female juxtaposed one against the other. Not only are all things Two and Two--One against the Other, BUT

Commoners against Nobility!

In every revolution---The commoners come and kill their nobility! Throughout history, Greece, Rome, the French Revolution, the Spanish Civil War---It is always the commoners KILLING the nobility! Because the Commoners HATE---They Covet the special priviledges of the "pure bloods" of the superior bloods!

J.K. Rowling is only preaching hatred herself--Hate against the Old Order.


Wheeler's crazy. Every educated person knows it was the endless machinations and provocations of the Polish menace that forced Hitler to suppress his peaceloving inclinations and reluctantly mobilize for defensive measures.

The Poles controled the world then and they still do today! The fact that this is so unsuspected, so undetected, only serves as further proof of their supreme craftiness.

Don't be fooled! Hitler knew! And he tried to save us! But who will listen today?


And why are the nobility concerned with Blood lines?

Because of mixing the noble soul with common stock---DILUTES their gifts! This is why Royalty marries Royalty and Aristocracy marries Aristocracy and the Commoners marry commoners.

This is why German should marry German, Jew marry Jew, and Italian marry Italian!

Gresham's law is in effect. Bad drives out Good! Bad blood drives out Good blood!

Every farmer knows that! Except dumb stupid modern people!


Where did you get the idea they stole that land? Huh? Read your history. For many years before WWII the jews were migrating to palistine. They bought the property at terribly inflated prices from the arabs.
starbuck

What a crock.

"In 1948, at the moment that Israel declared itself a state, it legally owned a little more than 6 percent of the land of Palestine." Source: The Origin if the Palestine-Israel, Conflict 3rd edition.

Starbuck, read real history, not the crap put out by Jewish propagandists. Check the real facts before you start calling anybody a fucktard.

Maybe the legal purchasing of 6% is a majority in your mind. However, the reality is that the rest of the world knows the remaining 94 percent was stolen at gunpoint.

Sit down, and get a grip... here's a newsflash for you: your lies won't hold up forever.


And starbuck:

Go wash out your filthy mouth. Vox does have rules for language around here.


The bible is full of instances of the people being admonished not to marry outside their race.

And when going into battle against other nations, depending on Gods will, the soldiers were admonished to either kill ALL ... men, woman and children.

Now ... why do you suppose that is?

Anyone remember the story of Samson?



Some of you are really blind not to see or discern it.

Inter-racial marriage DOES have cultural and/or religious ramifications. As IS evident in scripture itself.

You can not escape it. And to do so is to be ignorant of why.


The bible is full of instances of the people being admonished not to marry outside their race.

The admonition was against marrying outside of their faith, this is why there was no problem with Ruth or Rahab, they were willing to become Jewish. The admonition against marrying outside of the faith continues in the New Testament. Faith and belief are what is important, not race. In fact the Bible knows nothing of human races.


"Faith and belief are what is important, not race. In fact the Bible knows nothing of human races."
That is a crock, Larry and you know it! I just quoted lengthy passages from the Book of Sirach! It says, "God divided man" and gave them diverse gifts. The Greek word for race, is ethnos and it is throughout the Bible.

Please see the Wikipedia page on the word "Goy". There you will see a page from a Hebrew lexicon from the 16th century that corresponds the word 'goy' with the Latin word 'ethnicus' which is a borrowing from the Greek! Goy means nation! God did intend to create Nations.

Larry, you are being subversive, by your political correctness.


WLindayWheeler: Who are the evil people in the series and in the movies????? You stupid people. It is the Slytherins!!! Even the name is disgusting! Why is that? Because JKRowling has an agenda of communism.
Not precisely. Not all villains are Slytherins, and not all Slytherins are villains. Note also that the house which is known for accepting all comers, rather than selecting them for lineage (Slytherin), intelligence (Ravenclaw) or bravery (Gryffindor) is Hufflepuff, which is hardly mentioned in the series; it seems to be where all the uninteresting sorts go, with the exception of Cedric Diggory.

I see that you're copy/pasting from the Wikipedia article; there's a little poem in book five describing the founding principles of each House; that of Hufflepuff is explicitly defined as tolerance.
Said Slytherin, "We'll teach just those
Whose ancestry is purest."
Said Ravenclaw, "We'll teach those whose
Intelligence is surest."
Said Gryffindor, "We'll teach all those
With brave deeds to their name,"
Said Hufflepuff, "I'll teach the lot,
And treat them just the same."
Again, I repeat that the bad guys are bad because they're bigots, not because they're purebloods. Of course you'd hate it if you identify with the bigots, but I'm not trying to make you like the books--I'm just trying to correct you where you're wrong.
Why would Wesley Clark, a decorated soldier, a Major General, be using the words "pure" ethnic states? It is because this is what consumes the Jews!
What does Wesley Clark have to do with Harry Potter? Was he referring to Jews? Is Wesley Clark Jewish? Was he referring to someone else's concept of ethnic purity? Could you explain what you mean a bit more fully?
J. R. Rowling is a Leveller in the classical British sense! I bet she hates the British Royalty and Aristocracy!!! She hates anything superior! And that is why she is teaching this "blood purity" thing! It is a subtle attack upon the British nobility!
I don't think the British hate their aristocracy, generally speaking, as their aristocracy no longer runs the country. House of Commons, and all. If you think Rowling penned a seven-volume screed demanding that hereditary rule over Britain be ended, I'll have to ask if you're writing through some kind of time portal reaching back several centuries.
And the strength of a man, is his pedigree to some extent! Superior gifted men.
Remind me again why it's better to judge by ancestry than by one's actual talents? Shouldn't you be worshipping at the feet of Ravenclaw and Gryffindor, as they're defined as strict meritocracies, rather than a collection of inbred aristos? Conversely, if you just have a thing for inbred aristos, why are you going on about superiority and giftedness when it's pedigree you're concerned with?


And NOW I will quote again from Wikipedia:::::

"Blood purity is a central concept in the Harry Potter series of books by J. K. Rowling.


Let me repeat this::::::
"Blood purity is a central concept in the Harry Potter series of books by J. K. Rowling.


Is it now very very clear for you people?

What is the Central theme running throughout the Harry Potter series?

Blood purity!

Never before in the history of literature that I am aware of has anyone used this concept as a basis for a story line.

And here for YOUR education is whole thing:
"Wizards who have four magical grandparents are known as pure-blood[citation needed]; those who have one or more Muggle (non-magical) grandparents are known as half-blood[citation needed]. Those with two Muggle parents are known as Muggle-born, or, pejoratively, as "Mudblood". Among pure-blooded families, a division exists between those who accept and appreciate those of mixed or Muggle parentage, such as the Weasley family, and those who consider such people inferior, such as the Malfoy and Gaunt families[citation needed]. A blood traitor is a derogatory term employed by the latter group for a pure-blood who fails to maintain the proper prejudices against non-pure-bloods (i.e., people who enjoy the company of and/or help Muggles and Muggle-borns). This label has been applied to the Weasley family[citation needed], Sirius Black[citation needed], and Merope Gaunt[citation needed]

Pure-blood supremacists consider blood purity a measurer of a wizard's magical ability[citation needed]; this is not the case, however[citation needed]. Hermione Granger, for example, is Muggle-born, yet she is consistently at the top of her class, and is by all accounts a highly-skilled witch[citation needed]. It is especially true when one considers that some of the most powerful characters are half-bloods (Voldemort[citation needed], Severus Snape[citation needed] and Albus Dumbledore[citation needed].

The establishment and maintenance of pure-blood dominion over the wizarding world is the prime motivation for many of the series's evil characters[citation needed]. As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains, while Harry Potter and his friends disagree with this ideology.[1]


It is ALL COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA! And those who don't "have sufficient bigotry" well those are "Blood traitors" and are on the "good side"!

Millions of Children are now exposed to Communist Propaganda. How great!

The Wikipedia article is Blood Purity


"Therein, as the Bard would say, lies the rub. Claiming that one thing -anything- is "better" (or "larger," "higher," "farther," or generally "more X") than another does require an objective metric upon which everyone involved can be expected to agree."

Is that so? What's the object metric when I tell you that Rock n Roll is better music than Jazz?


"As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains,..."

The villians of Harry Potter are those that "see themselves superior because of their heritage".

How do the Royalty and the Aristocracy, in real life, see themselves as?

"Superior to other men BECAUSE OF THEIR HERITAGE".

Why are the Jews Chosen? Why do Jews have bigotry against the Gentiles?

Because they "see themselves superior BECAUSE OF THEIR HERITAGE"!

Who gave these heritages out? God did!

Doesn't scripture say

"As the clay is in the potter's hand, to fashion it at his pleasure: so man is in the hand of him that made him, to render to them as liketh him best. "


Did not God, by His own choosing, create some people superior and others commoners? Is not God the Potter do as he sees fit? Then why are we disputing with God?

As you can note in the comments of Mr. grendelkhan, that democratic sentiment of covetousness. The envy of the common man for his betters---because of some UNCONTROLLABLE event called Heritage!


"The point is, judgement and criticism require a standard. The critic's standard -and therefore judgement- is meaningless unless one of two conditions is met:
1) Both parties agree to the standard, like in a golf game where all the participants agree to the rules, or
2) The standard, and it's status as important and relevant to the parties in their current context, has autonomous existence, like in a PGA golf game where there are official written rules and referees.
Shild"

No. When it comes to things like morals, beauty, and right and wrong, one need not have a standard upon which everyone agrees. If that were necessary then there would be no difference in the opinions between movie critics then they judge a film or individuals when they judge a person's actions.

What you don't seem willing to appreciate is that even though we can admit that morals are relative to time, place and person, the person can still argue that their's is the best course of action or opinion or set of morals.


See, heritage and greatness is NOT a man-granted thing--But an Act of the Will of God! This is what is dangerous! The Actions of God in this world threatens the man-centered world of the humanists, egalitarians and democrats of this world!


" "Rowling has stated that the books comprise "a prolonged argument for tolerance, a prolonged plea for an end to bigotry"



Can anything be any clearer!!!! Out of the Horse's Mouth--comes clarity. It is about "tolerance" and ending bigotry. This is all Political Correctness, hence Marxism!
WLindsayWheeler"

How terrible!! Goodness. "An end to bigotry?" "Tolerance?" Why she ought to be strung up for such base motivations.


As a military man, I learned a great many things and one of those things is

"Rank has its priviledges"

This is what grates against the nerves of the humanists and the democrats! This is what grates against the sensibilities of the Tikkun Olam Jews and their patsies the J.K. Rowlings of this world!

Priviledge!

And that commoners MUST defer to their betters!

This is the OLD Order! This is Christendom! This is the Wisdom of God! And this is precisely what is attacked, belittled and slandered in the Harry Potter books!


How dare somebody be better than somebody else! This is the crime of the 20th and 21st centuries. Ohh, and come to think of it the 20th century is also labelled the 'Jewish century', what a coincidence! Nahh!

Let me relate a story to you folks. I used to go to St. Philips church, Roman Catholic, here in Battle Creek. One Sunday, the priest starts his sermon about "ending racism" and gives an example of it. He visited England and he stayed with a RC family in England. They were complaining about the immigrants.

This priest called them bigots and evil and slandered them before the whole congregation! This is the Church folks!

And look at what is happening in Britain! And then you wonder why the Brits can't stand up against the Muslim and Paki invasion of their country----BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE BIGOTS! That's why! Bigotry is evil and so now Britain is collapsing the Brits are leaving their cities to immigrants and they will be minorities in their country! British broadcasting and culture is FULL of political correctness and how evil "bigotry" is!

Well, the anti-bigotry campaign has made wusses out the Brits and their helpless against the globalist plans of their elitist ideologues in the House of Commons and elsewhere!


Heritage grants priviledge! Their fore-fathers were given that priviledge and it is theirs to use!


Okay then, Let's compare the Laws of J. K. Rowling's fictional workings of Blood purity with those in the REAL World.

Why do farmers INSIST on purity of Farm breeds?

BECAUSE OF PRODUCTION!!!!!!!

It is true that in some cases, of where Man does intermix the breeds of either cereal grains, cattle, etc, sometimes the yield is greater but then it drastically peters out in the 2nd and 3rd generation! There is an initial spurt and then dies out!

Consistency of production is ONLY with Pure breeds.

In order to game the system, one must constantly engage in intermixing purebreeds to create a next year of higher yield so one must always have pure breed stocks on hand as well!

J. K. Rowling's fiction---is just than Fiction but her fiction is teaching morality about Genetics and the evilness of pure blood to millions of people, children and adults!

She has never spent anytime on a Farm and she has NO scientific knowledge but only propaganda!

As the Church says, "Men are MORE STUPID than wicked". And what I like to say is that "Stupidness creates Wickedness!" She is teaching stupidity to children!


The Greek word for race, is ethnos and it is throughout the Bible.

Learn some Greek, "ethnos" means "nation" not race. A nation is considerably smaller than a race.


"J. K. Rowling's fiction---is just than Fiction but her fiction is teaching morality about Genetics and the evilness of pure blood to millions of people, children and adults!"

Most of the good guys are purebloods! She's not saying that being a pureblood is evil, she's saying that bigotry, pride, and arrogance are.


Anon was me.


In fact the Bible knows nothing of human races.
Larry | 10.21.07 - 7:43 pm | #

That is quite a statement considering what God had done in Babel. And the unfinished business of the Israelites when they entered the promised land ... occupied by ... other races.



Ezra 9:2
They have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, and have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them. And the leaders and officials have led the way in this unfaithfulness."


Give it up people. It's all over! Wikipedia is very very useful!

Again Wikipedia. You go to JK Rowling's page and read it. One comes across this:

"When she was a young teen, her great aunt, who Rowling said "taught classics and approved of a thirst for knowledge, even of a questionable kind", gave her a very old copy of Jessica Mitford's autobiography, Hons and Rebels.[22] Mitford became Rowling's heroine, and she subsequently read all of her books.


Okay, so now you look up "Hons and Rebels" and you get this:

"Hons and Rebels is an autobiography by political activist Jessica Mitford which describes her aristocratic childhood and the conflicts between her and her sisters Unity and Diana, who were ardent supporters of Nazism. Jessica was a a supporter of Communism and eloped with her cousin to fight with the Reds in the Spanish Civil War, and Diana grew up to marry the leader of the British Union of Fascists. Unity was praised by Nazi leader Hitler as being an ideal of Aryan beauty."


Jessica Mitford, the Mentor of JK Rowling is a F@#$%@#$%@#$ COMMUNIST!

It doesn't get any better than that folks! Jessica Mitford went to Spain to fight with the Republican Forces!!!!

That's it folks! JK Rowling admits Mitford as a Socialist and still admires her. This is quote of Ms Mitford:
""You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass the guilty."


Notice the Tikkun Olam of Fixing the World. That is what the Republican Forces of Spain attempted to do!

JK. Rowling's mentor IS a communist. JK Rowling IS a communist! Harry Potter is NOTHING more that Communist propaganda!!!!!


And the unfinished business of the Israelites when they entered the promised land ... occupied by ... other races.


No, by other nations, tribes, tongues, but not races. The Canaanites weren't Chinese, after all. There is nothing in the Bible as broad as "race". Babel separated people into tongues, not races.


"JK. Rowling's mentor IS a communist. JK Rowling IS a communist! Harry Potter is NOTHING more that Communist propaganda!!!!!"

I'm not aware of any communist propaganda in the books (if I'm wrong, show me, and I'll recant that statement). In fact, she seems to pretty much despise government altogether in the books, as many libertarians have taken a great notice to.


Ezra 9:2
They have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, and have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them. And the leaders and officials have led the way in this unfaithfulness."
Persona | 10.21.07 - 9:08 pm | #


Larry, I like you ... but you are stretching and grasping.

Frankly, you'd make the perfect poster boy for the UN and its agenda ... the brave multicultural one world religion we all pray to the same god crowd. Well ... almost.


have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them

Reading comprehension. They are talking about the Jewish people here, which is hardly a race in the modern sense of the word. Most translations make it "holy seed" not holy race.


Larry, I like you ... but you are stretching and grasping.


No, you are, there is no concept in scripture as broad as "race", no matter how badly you and WLW wants there to be.


Wow, WLW. You sure are a fine specimen of a White, Greco-Christian anti-Semitic Bigot!

By the way, just read Paul Johnson's first chapter "The History of Christianity", and his erudite research will prove you wrong about the "Greek origins" of Christianity. Of course, you can call him a Communist Jew, and be done with it.

(He does says that the Hellenic tradition was a tool/compliment for Western (European) Christianity to flourish.)

You also have to look at American Christianity, which to my understanding looked upon the continent as a new Jerusalem, as in the New Chosen People. By the way, other cultures have also taken on that symbol. So how do you reconcile that one?


Larry pick up Bartlett's translation of the Septuagint and "ethnos" is translated as RACE! Ethnos in other Classical texts are translated as RACE as well!!!!!

Get over it Larry. Race exists! Race will always exist!

Benjamin Disraeli, a Christianized Jew, even said;

""All is race - there is no other truth" (page 106)


He said again:
"The difference of race is one of the reasons why I fear war may always exist; because race implies difference, difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance."
And this is the basis of Socialism, Communism of Tikkun Olam--of fixing the world!


Hey, Mx READ THE WHOLE THREAD! before you make stupid comments. I have been pointing this out from my very first post on this thread!


Paul Johnson can .... He is a politically correct (read commie) academic! How about Kidist you read, "Plato's Gift to Christianity".


Hey kidist That is "Homophobic, Sexist, Male Chauvinist Pig, Anti-Semitic, Anti-Hamatic, European supremacist, Monarchist, Racist, Greco-Christian Bigot" to you. Please get it right!


Well, carry on Larry. A race of Holy Peoples. A race seperated by others chosen by God to be a holy people.

Any way you want to name it.

Your mixing up your race with humankind.


race [ rayss ] (plural rac·es)


noun

Definition:

1. group of humans: one of the groups into which the world's population can be divided on the basis of physical characteristics such as skin or hair color


2. fact of belonging to group: the fact of belonging to a group of humans who share the same physical features such as skin color
an attempt to end discrimination on grounds of race


3. humankind: humanity considered as a whole
the fate of the race


4. biology strain of organism: a genetically distinct population within a species that may also be geographically isolated


5. wine distinctive taste of wine: the distinctive taste of a wine, by which its grape variety or region of origin can be identified.


Paul Johnson can .... He is a politically correct (read commie) academic!

LOL.


The Jews were a distinct peoples, seperated from all other ... peoples ... races ... nations ... BUT ... they were still a part of humankind.


Who is the mentor of JK Rowling? It is Jessical Mitford!

Who is this Mitford?

"Jessica and her siblings grew up in an aristocratic country house set-up not unusual for its time, with a tradition of noblesse oblige, emotionally distant parents, a large household with many servants, and a disregard for formal education. Girls were expected to marry young and well. Though her sisters Unity and Diana were well-known British supporters of Hitler and her father was described as being "one of nature's fascists," Jessica renounced her privileged background at an early age and became an adherent of communism.


When she moved to America, she joined the Communist party and...and... and...
"In May 1961 she travelled to Montgomery, Alabama while working on an article about Southern attitudes for Esquire. While there, she and a friend went to meet the arrival of the Freedom Riders and became caught up in a riot when a mob led by the Ku Klux Klan attacked the civil rights activists. After the riot, Mitford proceeded on to a rally at a church led by Martin Luther King, Jr.. This too was attacked by the Klan and Mitford spent the night barricaded inside the church with the civil rights group until the violence was ended by the National Guard.

During this period, her daughter, Constancia Romilly, became the companion of the African-American activist James Forman, by whom she had two sons, James Robert Lumumba Forman and Chaka Esmond Fanon Forman.


There's your communist for you!!! This is the teacher of JK Rowling. This is where JK Rowling got her ideas. Some Rebellious daughter that hated her priviledge and her daughter goes out sires some other race's children!

It's all right there folks! Garbage in--Garbage out! Rowling imbibed from the fountain of rebellious youth who went on to become communist and so Rowling writes Communist ideology in her Books!

The Harry Potter series is all Communist! Every bit of it!


Wheeler, where do you get the energy?

You're really spun up by these Harry Potter books!


This thread is totally awesome.


Now do you know why she has made Dumbledore Gay? Why she outed him? Why she even went thru this charade?

Of Course her characters will all be progressive ideals---the homo, the half-blood, the race-mixing, the anti-bigotry message, the Hufflepuffs?

Notice the word 'Hufflepuffs'? 'Puff' is British slang for a homosexual! Duhh...

And what is it about Hufflepuffs?

"Hufflepuff, "I'll teach the lot,
And treat them just the same."


What has been bolded IS communist ideology! "To treat them all the same" is Communist! No priviledge. No Nobility. No commoner must defer to the Aristocrat! NOOOOOO.

Yes, and that is what Britain is turning into---A Nation of Hufflepuffs!


"Hey, Mx READ THE WHOLE THREAD! before you make stupid comments. I have been pointing this out from my very first post on this thread!"

Nothing personal, but every time you speak, you make yourself look more and more like a dumbass. Wheeler, you haven't shown me a single reason to believe that she, herself, has personally written in communist propaganda into those books. All you've done is shout "COMMUNIST! COMMUNIST!" at every turn. Try listing some examples within the book that shows that she's promoting communism. I don't give a damn what J.K. Rowling personally believes, but if she's putting her supposedly communist beliefs in the HP books, I'd like some examples. And actual textual references are preferred.


The Jews were a distinct peoples, seperated from all other ... peoples ... races ... nations ... BUT ... they were still a part of humankind.

The Jews are a separate nation or ethnicity, _not_ a race. Read your definitions again. The Jews were not different from the Canaanites on the basis of skin color or hair color or any other physical characteristic.


"Zeal for thy house consumes me"


"What has been bolded IS communist ideology! "To treat them all the same" is Communist! No priviledge. No Nobility. No commoner must defer to the Aristocrat! NOOOOOO."

You've got to be joking. The books aren't claiming that nobody is better than anyone else, just look at the bloody characters! Harry is the best fighter in the school, Hermione is the smartest, Dumbledore was one of the most powerful wizards in history, Moody was one of the best aurors, and so on! So yeah, Wheeler, there is privilege, and with that, power, but there is also responsibility and an acceptance that everything can be taken away in an instant, which Harry understood. You really are determined to hate the series, and while I couldn't care less if somebody didn't like it just because it wasn't there type, you're looking for things that just aren't there. Oh and by the way: every single one of the characters I listed was a Gryffindor, not a Hufflepuff! Hufflepuff almost never got any attention, it's always focused on the Gryffindors, the brave ones, not the Hufflepuffs which are the so-called "tolerant" ones.


...which is hardly a race in the modern sense of the word.
Larry | 10.21.07 - 9:17 pm | #

Well Larry, you are just a modern man. I am sure you will do well in the modern ... I mean ... New World Order and the Brave New World.



No Larry, it is not "christianity" that is destroying America. It is the lost American cultural values that has been replaced with MULTI-CULTURALISM ... the MINGLING OF THE RACES ... MULTI-CULTURALISM ... which is destroying christiandom in America.

Roll that around in your head for awhile. It is secret code ... so it might escape you.

Heck, even people think that you can make a book with magic and sorcery, call up the dead and hocus pocus and call it ... "christian". I mean ... MULTI-CULTURALISM.


hich is destroying christiandom in America.

Christendom by definition, included more than America. Christendom is either already dead or dieing. It should not be revived as it was often rather un-Christian. As is thinking that some people bear less of the image of God than others.


Well Mx, I've spent some 35 years reading up on communism and what it is. I can't answer your question in a single post on a thread.

When I was young MX, and I didn't know how to spell a word, I would go to my mother, and she would say---"Look it up in the dictionary". If I needed any information, She handed my the encyclopaedia.

I had to do my own work.

Well, MX if you don't know--then start researching it yourself--YOU DO the research---You do the reading.

I will give you hints:

Read copious amounts of articles from the John Birch Society.

Read the Communist Manifesto your self by Karl Marx.

Read about the Russian Revolution.

Read about Weimar Germany.

Google Communism itself.

Read the book, "Elements of Socialism" (1925)

Read the book, "Liberty or Equality" by Erik von Kuenhelt-Leddihn.

Read the "Dispossesed Majority"

Read old Catholic documents against communism.

Read about Antonio Gramsci.

Read George Orwell, Ayn Rand, etc.

Read anti-communist tracts!

YOU do the research MX and find out for yourself---You do the work. Learn about your human environment and human history! Teach yourself. Go look it up.


The Jews are a separate nation or ethnicity, _not_ a race. Read your definitions again. The Jews were not different from the Canaanites on the basis of skin color or hair color or any other physical characteristic.
Larry | Homepage | 10.21.07 - 9:54 pm | #


Come on Larry. You are grasping.

Stand me next to Asians, Africans, Pacific Islanders, Idians and etc. ... it would be easy to determine what race I belong to.

Ummmmm ... Larry? Have you ever met a "Canaanite"? Ever seen one? How about a Amalekite? How about aaaaaaa ... Egyptian?


"YOU do the research MX and find out for yourself---You do the work. Learn about your human environment and human history! Teach yourself. Go look it up."

Alright, I'll make it simple: give me ONE textual example where she promotes communism; I've already answered the Hufflepuff dilemma you have. Don't dodge the question, Wheeler, it's not that hard, considering we are dealing with a children's book.


If you go to the Wikipedia article on Jessica Mitford, the commie you will see a jacket cover of her autobiography.

Now, JK Rowling herself admits, "She read Every book of Mitford's". Well, what is on the cover of Mitford's autobiograghy?

Why the Hammer and the Sickle the symbol of Russian Communism!!! Does this make sense now! Of course Dumbledore is gay, I am a bit taken back that good ol' Harry Potter and Ron Weasley weren't planting kisses on each other!

To attack the dominant social order which is Christian which forbids homosexuality is communist strategy! The deconstruction of Christendom's values and teachings is what communism does! Outing Dumbledore or even creating him homo, is Communist methodology! Anything that attacks and destroys the Old Order is commie.


Here for you MX: (This was also posted earlier but since YOU CAN'T F#t%$t READ)

Let me repeat this::::::

"Blood purity is a central concept in the Harry Potter series of books by J. K. Rowling.



Is it now very very clear for you people?

What is the Central theme running throughout the Harry Potter series?

Blood purity!

Never before in the history of literature that I am aware of has anyone used this concept as a basis for a story line.

And here for YOUR education is whole thing:
"Wizards who have four magical grandparents are known as pure-blood[citation needed]; those who have one or more Muggle (non-magical) grandparents are known as half-blood[citation needed]. Those with two Muggle parents are known as Muggle-born, or, pejoratively, as "Mudblood". Among pure-blooded families, a division exists between those who accept and appreciate those of mixed or Muggle parentage, such as the Weasley family, and those who consider such people inferior, such as the Malfoy and Gaunt families[citation needed]. A blood traitor is a derogatory term employed by the latter group for a pure-blood who fails to maintain the proper prejudices against non-pure-bloods (i.e., people who enjoy the company of and/or help Muggles and Muggle-borns). This label has been applied to the Weasley family[citation needed], Sirius Black[citation needed], and Merope Gaunt[citation needed]

Pure-blood supremacists consider blood purity a measurer of a wizard's magical ability[citation needed]; this is not the case, however[citation needed]. Hermione Granger, for example, is Muggle-born, yet she is consistently at the top of her class, and is by all accounts a highly-skilled witch[citation needed]. It is especially true when one considers that some of the most powerful characters are half-bloods (Voldemort[citation needed], Severus Snape[citation needed] and Albus Dumbledore[citation needed].

The establishment and maintenance of pure-blood dominion over the wizarding world is the prime motivation for many of the series's evil characters[citation needed]. As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains, while Harry Potter and his friends disagree with this ideology.[1]



It is ALL COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA! And those who don't "have sufficient bigotry" well those are "Blood traitors" and are on the "good side"!

Millions of Children are now exposed to Communist Propaganda. How great!

The Wikipedia article is Blood Purity


Larry, you must have your head in the sand. The christian faith is dying in America. You can tell. The fruit of professing christians in America is becoming rather ... putrid. It is becoming ... luke warm ... and on the verge of being ... spit out. It is losing its ... saltiness. It is becoming a ... dried fig.

The christian HERITAGE and CULTURE in America is being destroyed. Haven't you noticed? Because ... they lack wisdom and knowledge and have been replaced with MULTI-CULTURALISM.


Larry, this "As is thinking that some people bear less of the image of God than others is the communist interpretation of the Old Order. No one says that! Racialism is as old as the hills. It is in cow herds, it is in all herd animals and humans are also herd animals. There is Hierarchy every where Larry.

See, this "thinking that some people bear less of the image of God than others" is the communist interpretation of Hierarchy but Hierarchy and Supremancy doesn't even intimate that. You and your commie buddies just read that into it because you want to degrade and nullify Hierarchy!

The whole cosmos including the Godhead are infused with Hierarchy! To keep one's place where God put you is the challenge!


The christian faith is dying in America.

No, it isn't, it is merely changing. "MULTI_CULTURALISM" is actually the original environment of the church, and the church thrived in it.


"It is ALL COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA! And those who don't "have sufficient bigotry" well those are "Blood traitors" and are on the "good side"!"

The damn series is against arrogance and pride! Most of the bad guys are half-bloods anyway (or so various characters have admitted), and even the main antagonist is a half-blood! Almost all of the good guys are purebloods (and they eventually end marrying fellow purebloods!), so if she really wanted to fully promote communism, why not make every character a half-blood or muggleborn? Oddly enough, she doesn't!


The Orthodox Church has always made national churches Larry. It does NOT operate like the Roman Catholic church that refuses to set up national patriarchies because it sees itself as some sort of Tower of Babel itself in its Universalist Power.

Christianity is for all races Larry but that doesn't mean that nations are destroyed. Christianity is about Life--Not death. Roman Catholicism has always taught the importance and obedience to the Natural Law. Early Christianity was not about undermining the Natural Law. Even though the Gospel is preached to all the Gospel does not override the customs and laws found in each nation that is in conformity with right reason and revelation!

Larry, you are confusing many things together to make Christianity into some kind of progressive socialist ideology and that is NOT what Christianity is! Sorry.


Larry, you are confusing many things together to make Christianity into some kind of progressive socialist ideology and that is NOT what Christianity is! Sorry.

If you had a clue as to what Christianity truly was, this might concern me. But since you are simply a heretic and blasphemer (as well as being a certifiable loon), it doesn't bother me a bit.


She needed villians and the villians ARE:::::

"As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains..."


"As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains..."


"As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains..."


"As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains..."


"As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains..."


"As critic Colleen O'Brien notes, the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains..."


How many times must I repeat myself for you MX! The attacking of Hierarchy; the Attacking of priviledge; the Attacking of Heritage; is all of the Leveller instinct that is inherent in Communism!

Do you know anything about the English Levellers or the Digger movements of Britain, MX?

Do you know anything about John Hus?

Do you know the ideological currents that went into communism? Obviously NOT because you still don't get it. Go do some research!


Let me make it more clearer for you MX since you are obviously clueless about Ideology and how ideology forms man's actions:

"Democracy is the road to socialism." Karl Marx


"Democracy is indispensable to socialism." Vladimir Ilyich Lenin


"Modern Socialism is inseperable from political democracy." Elements of Socialism, pg 337.


"The view that democracy and Socialism are inwardly related spread far and wide in the decades which preceded the Bolshevist revolution. Many came to believe that democracy and Socialism meant the same thing, and that democracy without Socialism or Socialism without democracy would not be possible." Socialism, Ludwig von Mises, pg 67.


Communism is a leveller ideology. Communism is a democratic ideology. Communism and democracy go hand in hand.

As the German Classicist Karl Otfried Muller observes:
"A democracy likes a large mass and hates all divisions."


Communism is basically a democratic movement; it is a mass movement that does away with all hierarchy, with all nobility (by killing them) and all superiority. Communism and democracy are based on egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is the basis of democracy for it treats, {just like the verse for the Hufflepuffs}, "all persons the same"!


Here is a diagram for you MX on all the currents of thought, of ideology, that fueled the rise of National Socialism in Germany:

http://www.msnusers.com/TheDoric...Photo& PhotoID=3

And this diagram:

http://www.msnusers.com/TheDoric...Photo& PhotoID=1

Do you MX understand all the persons, and things mentioned in those diagrams? Do YOU? Because if you don't, you are way over your head!

Until you can understand the meaning of why those people and ideas are in those diagrams, you don't have a F$#%@#$ clue! There is a LOT to know! And until you start reading and understanding, you will never be educated!

Just look at the complexity and the myriad of influences that went into National Socialism. Do you understand any of it MX?


Sheesh, Wheeler, do you ever run out of steam?


Communism is a leveller ideology. Communism is a democratic ideology. Communism and democracy go hand in hand.

Wow, something I agree with Wheeler about.

It is in cow herds, it is in all herd animals and humans are also herd animals.

Humans aren't animals.

You and your commie buddies just read that into it because you want to degrade and nullify Hierarchy!

Are you serious? I highly doubt that Larry has "communist" buddies.

The whole cosmos including the Godhead are infused with Hierarchy! To keep one's place where God put you is the challenge!

Luckily enough, we have the scripture and the Ruach to tell us where the hierarchy goes, and not the vain philosophies of men.


What you don't seem willing to appreciate is that even though we can admit that morals are relative to time, place and person, the person can still argue that their's is the best course of action or opinion or set of morals. (Pinotopolis)

Sure, they can say "my morals are the best," but they have no basis for this.

Let me ask you this, if you're still posting in this bloated thread: When you encounter a moral outlook, how do you decide whether it is better or worse than others? By what criteria do you argue that your morals are superior to, for example, the Aardvark's?

Now, I'm guessing you will say something on the lines of, "I judge them based on my own values and experiences," but this is the very problem. If morality is relative, then other peoples' morals should be different from yours. It would be nonsensical for someone else to subscribe to your moral outlook because they are not you. Therefore, you can't tell someone that their moral beliefs or choices are inferior to yours.

Well, you are physically capable of telling them that their morals are inferior, of course, but to do so requires you to contradict your own position.


This just in...

Dumbledore--

Still gay.


hahaha..but Aardvark!! Dumbledore is merely a product of a Jewish mind. All homosexual normalization is the vile Jewish mind at work trying to subvert the natural order!!

Thus, speaketh WLW, the Hamanite.


""A democracy likes a large mass and hates all divisions."


The German classicist Karl Otfried Muller was very cognizant of Ancient Greek history. Everywhere that democracy arose---it started killing the nobility and the wealthy! Anybody that was superior---was killed.

Well does anybody in classical times back that up?

Socrates says in Plato's Apology:
"No man on earth who conscientiously opposes either you or any other organized democracy, and flatly prevents a great many wrongs and illegalities from taking place in the state to which he belongs, can possibly escape with his life" 31 e {also see 28 a-b} edited by Edith Hamilton


It can be stated more laconically, "Anybody who resists organized democracy---WILL be killed".

This is true in all the democratic revolutions of ancient Greece and Rome. The French Revolution was the same way--going around killing the aristocracy and then the King! The same thing with the English Civil War where radical Scottish Prots under Cromwell destroyed the English commonwealth of mixed government and killed the King also.

Do you know what Priviledge is? It is the Clerics within the Christian Church; the bishops and the priests. The Hussite movement went around killing them!

What did Jessica Mitford the mentor of JK Rowling do? She went to Spain to help the Republican forces there. Here is a synopsis of Republican activity:

""Outraged at the brutalities of the Republicans, aided by the Russians, in the Spanish Civil War, he (Jesuit Enrico Rosa) deplored the fact that hundreds of the clergy had been murdered; religious buildings had been burned; nuns raped; priests mutilated."


And what were the so-called "Republican forces" of the Spanish civil war MX? They were COMMUNISTS. This is what Communists do---they kill anybody WITH PRIVILEDGE.

What is the first thing the Viet Cong did when they entered a village MX? Do you know MX?

They killed the mayor and his family and any Catholic priest or nuns! This is what Communist forces do---they kill anybody with priviledge!

Let me see, MX, what is one of the things that Pol Pot did? Do you know of any of the Criteria that led Pol Pot to KILL some 2 Million of his own countrymen? Do YOU MX?

Pot Pot singled out people who wore glasses because Glasses were the sign of higher intelligence!!!!!!!!!! So, his goons went around gathering up all the people who wore glasses and killed them!

And who are the villians of JK Rowling's series?

"...the wizards who see themselves as superior because of their heritage, are the books' villains..."


In the French Revolution, in the Russian Revolution, in the Spanish Civil War, in the Vietnam Civil War, the first thing Communists would do is HUNT DOWN all those with "priviledges" and Killed them!

That is your Communist ideology at work Mr. MX!


And you Crystal are judeochristian heretic a part of the Synagogue of Satan!


Anybody that was superior---was killed.

Well, as the Nietchzeans of Andromeda fame would say: "then they must not have been superior".

You want to talk "natural order", WLW. Only the strong, the superior, survive.

Socrates says in Plato's Apology:

Referencing the heathen philosophies again..incorrigible.


You just keep digging yourself in deeper, WLW.


Sorry, if 11:58 pm wasn't clear, but a particular scripture in Matthew came to mind upon reading the above accusation and reflecting upon the many things WLW has written in this thread:

How are you able to speak what is good - being wicked? For the mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart. The good man brings forth what is good from the good treasures of his heart, and the wicked man brings forth what is wicked from the wicked treasure.

And I say to you that for every idle word men speak, they shall give an account of it in the day of judgment.

For by your words you shall be declared righteous, and by your words you shall be declared unrighteous

---

WLW, you've been writing effusively in this board. I hope your spoken words are not of such...quality. For your sake, because I recall another scripture that says that where words are many, sin is not absent.

I can attest to that from personal experience, actually.


Is this what it's like listening to folks in an asylum?

Dude, you're nuts. Funny, but nucking futs.


No, people in an asylum make more sense. *s*


We libertarians can take comfort that, while we may never get the government we seek... we have a heck of a lot better chance of that than Wheeler does. I mean the man wants Prince Charles to be our King for heaven sakes, he might as well call for Paris Hilton to be our queen. And at least her capacity as a drama queen carries more responsibility than Charles' job does these days.


J.K. Rowling announces that Dumbeldore has been seeking help at Exodus Ministries.


;^) The really bad news is...

Paul Johnson is Roman Catholic.

...AND a ripping good read.


Feh...Haloscum won't do a smile...


Wheeler, do you work? Geez.

Anyway...I reckon put in my lowly two pence.

Communism is basically a democratic movement; it is a mass movement that does away with all hierarchy, with all nobility (by killing them) and all superiority.

It does NOT do away with social hierarchy, Wheeler. It merely cuts out the middle. The commoners are not suddenly elevated in their respective stature and social hierarchy in a communist country. They remain peons and the "aristocracy," as it were, at least the ones in alignment with the communist dogma, remain aristocrats, only that in this case they are communist aristocrats (elites), rather than monarchists or republican aristocrats (elites). Sometimes, it's the contemporary "aristocrats" or elitists in a given country who are the movers and shakers and architects attempting to bring about a collectivist/egalitarian society in the first place. They're not always, or even mostly, born out of violent revolutions and sudden coups d'état, after all.

And it's the middle class (bourgeoisie) that's squeezed out of existence. The rest of the social hierarchy remains in place for the most part.

Communism and democracy are based on egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is the basis of democracy for it treats, {just like the verse for the Hufflepuffs}, "all persons the same"!

Sigh, of course ALL persons are treated the same, since except for the communist "aristocrats" (elites), they are all ghetto and barrio commoners as the middle class is destroyed or at best neutered to the point of irrelevancy.

Wheeler, I understand a minuscule bit of what you say, or what you've said (I should say), in past threads, especially as pertains the culture, but I've always disagreed with your notion of HOW the cultural rot has come about.

It's not because of the J.K. Rowlings, the Hollyweird "fab" scabs and fairies, the media marionettes who reliably spew totalitarian dogma on cue, and any other Gramscian strategists at work. Rather, it's because the vast majority of the people up and down the social hierarchy cannot discern the Truth from error anymore. As you mentioned to m.x., the people themselves have to be educated and find out for themselves whether a given philosophy or view is valid. They don't bother doing that anymore; they're too lazy, too busy, too tired, too fat and happy (for the moment), or a combination of excuses thereof.

If the people would adequately self-govern themselves rather than depending on the public skew system and media-promoted and self-proclaimed "experts" to explain anything and everything - from the types of foods one should eat to how to raise ones own children and everything in between - to them as if they were ignorant infantile children themselves, this culture and, thereby, the country would be vastly different.

You also seem to believe that there are unchanging delineations within a given social hierarchy. As if someone who is an aristocrat, always an aristocrat; someone who is a poor commoner, always a poor commoner. No, just as God elevates one, He can also bring them down to size, like He did to Nebuchadnezzar, and vice-versa.


A man is defined by his actions, not some after the fact declaration by the Author. If the character was truly gay there would have been a defining act in the books. Can anyone name one? Besides all that, the lady's Scottish, they have a dry wit like the british.


We're gonna hafta put Wheeler on a sugar and carb-free diet for awhile.
Maybe the protein will heal his rather obvious brain damage.


"Now, I'm guessing you will say something on the lines of, "I judge them based on my own values and experiences," but this is the very problem. If morality is relative, then other peoples' morals should be different from yours. It would be nonsensical for someone else to subscribe to your moral outlook because they are not you. Therefore, you can't tell someone that their moral beliefs or choices are inferior to yours."

If this is the case then you need to explain away the concept of "opinion".

For example, what's wrong with this:

I believe X. You believe Y. In my opinion X is more Z because of ABC.

When we are dealing with morals, faith, beliefs and opinions, you are going to end up with these kinds of arguments. For example: "Adultery is immoral (wrong) always. There is nothing that makes this claim an objective fact. If you believe adultery is OK and I believe it isn't, we'll present our reasons. But none of those reason will include, "it's an objective fact that adultery is good or bad because we are talking about belief and opinion.

You're reasons for saying adultery is good may be more convincing than my reasons for saying it is wrong to a particular person or crowd. But we are still in the land of subjective and we are still criticizing a particular position.


>Some people ARE F#@$%#@ better than others!!!! Get over it!

You're right. Some people are better than others. My children will have mixed blood and will be far, far better than you.


The first few hundred years of christian "culture" was predominantly "eastern".

Western/European influence greatly altered, and from the easter point of view, diluted (if not polluted) it.

The fundamental differences between eastern and western christianity are even more apparent today for anyone willing to observe and understand. Most choose to assume and misunderstand.


Apparently he did cruise orphanages looking for young boys to bring to Hogwarts.

Well, Dumbledore was the only one that instilled fear into Tom Riddle. Now we know why!?!


Dude, Wheeler is freaking awesome. I hope my keyboard will be okay after I sprayed Earl Grey all over it.

He is the looniest commentator evah.


I count 98 posts by wheeler.

I'm gonna call him BenFranklin because that mo-fo is the Post-Masta!


Dude, Wheeler is freaking awesome. I hope my keyboard will be okay after I sprayed Earl Grey all over it.

I've been told they're dishwasher safe, as long as you make sure they're well dried out before you plug them in, but I haven't tried it myself.


Re: Pinotopolis | 10.22.07 - 10:22 am | #

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I think that we're pretty much in agreement hear, since your post is almost a restatement of the point I made in my 10.21.07 - 10:34 am post. In any case, it excludes exclusivist/moralistic pronouncements like the one you directed at the Aardvark earlier.

Now that you've conceded defeat, I'm satisfied.


Wheeler, the concept of a God's incarnate wisdom (a hypostasis) can be derived directly from Jewish thought.

Your reference to Sirach would be interesting, if you didn't misrepresent him.

He was saying that each beast had his kind as does man i.e. that human beings had human beings.


He is the looniest commentator evah.

Yeah..WND should set up a commentator section for Wheeler entitled "Dispatch from Daffy Duck"


What is Communism?

When the word "communism" is mentioned, most people think it deals solely with econonics; that there is no private property, the state owns all property. It is the antithesis of capitalism.

Well, not many people I guess are aware of the other side of Communism--its social policy. Communism has two sides, and economic side and a cultural/social side.

A hint of this cultural/social side of communism can be seen in its other name: i.e. "INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISM".

Why is communism called "International Socialism"?

The Goal of Communism is do away with Nation-states and replace all with One World Government! And why does it want to do away with Nation-states? For the sake of establishing Perpetual Peace! (Elements of Socialism). This is the Ultimate Goal of Communism. It is goal of Tikkun Olam---"Fixing the World".

In the book, One World (published by One World Publishing Co, Notre Dame, Ind. 1984), John C. Kiang traces this movement to socialism:

"As far as world unity is concerned, Marx and Engels were the pioneers who expounded that modern industry had furnished a real foundation for a world unity, and declared not only that “working men have no country,..."
but also that
"Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationalities. (Pg 248-9)
Kiang footnotes these statements in his book:
"In this declaration Marx and Engels claimed that the struggle of the workers was international in essence. National differences, they pointed out, were being wiped out by the development of free trade, by the growth of a world market, and by the increasing uniformity of industrial and social conditions. The workers in particular were being denationalized by modern industry, and had no fatherland." (pg 248)


In the book Elements of Socialism, it states:
"Modern Socialism is essentially international".(page 202)
"The State is not 'abolished'. It dies out." (page 213)



On page 219, it says, "The establishment of a 'World Economy' must necessarily have the effect of softening the differences between nations and of bringing about something approaching a world federation."

Communist ideology is about destroying the Nations! It is about attacking so-called "racism" and "bigotry" for the sake of establishing One World Government! This side of Communism is called Cultural Marxism! (Google the term to get more info.)

This is why JK Rowling has the "pure bloods" as Evil. They are the villians of the series! She is what is called a "fellow traveller"; not a member of the communist party but one who is not only sympathetic but a proselytizer. Her work is furthering the cause of Cultural Marxism!

Now you see what is National Socialism, i.e. Nazism. It was formed to combat Communism. The nation-destroying effects of Jewish communism in Germany; for Nazism is a reaction against communism!


This is what it's all about: John Kiang wrote another book called One World: The Approach to Permanent Peace on Earth and the General Happiness of Mankind : A Popular Manifesto With Scholarly Annotations

This is the purpose to which all things in the political realm are delving into! These people, the Enlightenment, the Humanists, readers of the Kabbala, and the Jews in their Tikkun Olam are all seeking to Re-make the World according to them. They are seeking the destruction of the Old Order. They seek to re-make the Natural Order that God Created!

To do this they are going to destroy Nations, tribes, races, ethnicities! This is why "bigotry" is attacked!

What is bigotry and racism really? All men have implanted in them a Belonging and its opposite Volkenhass. The sense of Belonging and Volkenhass are the Glue that keeps races/nations/ethnicities together. Destroy belonging and volkenhass---and you destroy race!

This is the agenda. JK Rowling is a part of this process of deconstructionism. She is teaching communist morality with her books. Like a typical woman, she has no understanding of the real world nor does she care, she is teaching her "good intentions" which really is political correctness, which is communism. She has been trained in Communist morality and group think by Jessica Mitford and her books exhibit this!


I want to show you people what the Jews are about, how they think, and their agenda for us and the correlation to the agenda of communism be dissecting just one quote from Benjamin Disraeli quoted earlier in this thread.

"The difference of race is one of the reasons why I fear war may always exist; because race implies difference, difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance."


This QUOTE is all you ever need to know about the Jew (or a grand majority of it). This quote sums up neatly and laconically Jewish thought and psyche.

Notice first, "Difference of Race". Isn't that natural? NOT to Benjamin Disraeli a Jew! See, Jews hate that! They can't stand that! They DON'T WANT TO FACE reality!

Next he goes, "why I fear war may always exist". They are pussies. They are effeminates! Remember when God brought them out and said go and conqueor and they pussied out! They are NOT a warrior people! They hate reality!

Reality in Roman Catholic thought is called the Natural Order or the Temporal Order. Within the Temporal Order, God planted Strife! Strife is everywhere; amongst physical forces like gravity and centifrugal force; in the plant world, in the animal world; in the spiritual World! Life is War!

And the JEW can't handle it! He thinks there is something wrong in the world! War is a natural occuring event in the Temporal Order! And the Jew hates it!

Next, he says, "...because race implies difference, difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance."

Again, the Jew HATES hierarchy! He hates superiority in anything! That is one reason they crucified Jesus! Because Jesus was SUPERIOR to them! They couldn't stand it! Anything that is superior they go out of their way to destroy it! They are natural deconstructionists! They are always tearing down! Always!!!!!

What Benjamin Disraeli said, is exactly the essence behind Communist ideology! Race MUST be destroyed!

Benjamin Disraeli is a Baptized Jew!!! Did the Baptism change his evil Jewish ways? NO! No matter if he underwent 10,000 baptisms---He would, and every other Jew, will think like this!

THEY HAVE A MESSIAH COMPLEX. They, and ONLY they will """"save""""" the world and by doing that, they are going to destroy RACE, Nation, Ethnicity! They are going to do that! They have Tikkun Olam--Fixing the world--and they are intent in fixing the World!

They have NO respect for God, his works; i.e. The Temporal Order! This is why they attack bigotry and racism which is really belonging and volkenhass!

Despite the Christian baptism, Benjamin Disraeli is still a Jew! The Baptism did NOT change his character on bit! This quote from him is the essence behind Communism, Cultural Marxism, the United Nations, and the Harry Potter Series.

Their goal is Peace--Perpetual Peace, Heaven on Earth! They are going to fix the World!

What they don't know, is the God in his ULTIMATE Wisdom planted strife in the cosmos for a purpose. They don't understand this for they have NO wisdom themselves! They think they know better than God!


"The first few hundred years of christian "culture" was predominantly "eastern".

But the great flowering of Christianity happened in the West-In Western Europe!

If you are talking about the Byzantine Empire---the citizens of the Byzantine Empire were Greeks and Greeks are a Western People. The New Testament is written in Greek! Greek is an Indo-European Language and the Greeks are a Western Race. The Greeks are the founders of Western Culture and Western civilization.

If you look at Christianity in the East--it has always been mired in heresy; for example the Nestorians. Christianity is the East is seldom orthodox! Only the Western mind can keep Christianity Ortho-doxa!


God in Genesis planted enmity in the world! God planted enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed of the devil! Enmity is part and parcel of the Temporal Order! There will ALWAYS be strife.

If you read quotes on peace, many smart intellectuals have noted the dangers of peace!

Nature is full of dichotomies! That is a fact! You can't have one without its opposite! Can you have males without females? How can you have Peace without War!

See, the Jew is not a philosophical race---They are not philosophers! They never think of this! They are not students of the Natural Order/Temporal Order!

One must have Peace AND War. Good doesn't exist without Evil. One must have the contrary in order to know its positive.

In order to bring about peace---they must destroy race and bring man "to his fullest evolutionary stage" of One World Government!


The whole cosmos revolves around the principle of the Golden Mean. This is encapsulated in a laconic saying engraved on the Doric Temple of Delphi:

"Nothing too much"


Proof? The Trinity. The Trinity is the Golden Mean between Strict Monotheism and Polytheism, between the deficiency and the excess. Virtue is the Golden mean.

If you drink tooo much water you can die. If you eat too much meat you get gout! This principle is everywhere.

Too much Peace and Man enervates. There has to be rythmn. Peace then War, then Peace again, then War. This is natural. The day is so structured, the Seasons of the Year so on and so forth. God created BOTH the Temporal Order and Divine Revelation through his Son Jesus Christ! The Temporal Order is JUST as important as Divine Revelation.

To attack the Temporal Order and upset it is an attack upon Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ is the Logos and the Temporal Order, the Natural Order was created by the LOGOS--The Reason of God!

The Doric Greeks understood that, and were obedient to the Logos. The Logos embeded in the Temporal Order. One part of that Logos is called the Golden Mean.

This is one of the major parts of Old Traditional Roman Catholicism--Obedience to Divine Revelation and Obedience to the Natural Order or to Natural Law! This is True Apostolic Christianity. As we are NOT to abrogate divine revelation (i.e. scripture), we are not to abrogate the Temporal Order.

The sense of Belonging and Volkenhass, in the measure of the Golden Mean, are NOT to be tampered with!

Cultural marxism seeks to undermine and destroy the Temporal Order! The Harry Potter series with its theme of "blood purity" is part and parcel of cultural marxism.

Communism seeks the dilution of Western races thru race-mixing. Bigotry which JK Rowling seeks to end, puts a stop to race-mixing. Bigotry or volkenhass, (in the Golden Mean) is about turning attention away from what is foreign and making one turn to one's own kin and kith.

To end bigotry is an excess. It is monomanical. It is NOT European thought---but Jewish. Always going to the extremes is monomanical. European thought is to the Golden Mean! The Jew has NO concept of the Golden Mean, his thought is always to the extremes; either it is done to excess like democracy and egalitarianism or it done to defiency like communism, ending bigotry so on and so forth. Their agenda is always monomanical. They don't know the meaning of moderation!


At VFR, Lawerence Auster has published a short expose of the French President Sarkozy written by Tiberge, blogger of Galliawatch.

Sarkozy is Jewish!

We are talking on this Thread about the "Blood Purity" and how this is a major theme in the Harry Potter Series.

Tiberge records Sarkozy's words on Race:

"During a trip to Africa last July Sarkozy gave an incoherent, or at least cryptic, speech in Dakar, Senegal that goes down in history as the "Discours de Dakar." In the speech he denounced (racial) purity as tantamount to the greatest evil in the world."


What does Sarkozy the Jew denounce?

Racial Purity. Who are the villians of Harry Potter? The House of Slytherin who prate about In their Blood purity!

What is the constant theme of JK Rowling, Wesley Clark and Sarkozy? Racial purity is EVIL!

Here are other quotes from Sarkozy:
""Young people of Africa, European civilization was wrong to believe itself superior to that of your ancestors, but henceforth European civilization belongs to you too."

Here is another. Note the word "Purity".
"Young people of Africa, do not yield to the temptation of purity because it is a sickness, a sickness of the intelligence, and the most dangerous thing in the world.
Young people of Africa, do not cut yourself off from what enriches you, do not amputate a part of yourself. Purity is a confinement, purity is intolerance. Purity is a fantasy that leads to fanaticism.

The problem with Africa is that too often it judges the present in relation to the purity of its origins which are totally imaginary and that no one can hope to revive.

The challenge for Africa is that of all civilizations, all cultures, all people who want to keep their identity without confining themselves because confinement is fatal.

Civilizations are great insofar as they participate in the great diversity of the human spirit.


Sarkozy has Jewish blood in him. He is a Greek Jew. What is he promoting? Race-mixing, diversity, so on and so forth!

It never ends!

The rest of the article is here: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/arch...ves/ 009062.html


“We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we’re a new Mestizo nation.”

“Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes…”

“We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him.”
– Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, founder of La Raza

“Around the year 2040, whites will become a minority in the United States and, believe me, it will be ‘payback time’.”
- Pro-Immigration Activist, Jorge Sanchez

“And the one idea is, how we are going to exterminate white people because that in my estimation is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem.”
- African Studies professor, Dr. Kamau Kambon

“Blond hair and blue eyes are a biological defect.”
“The white race is a disease, and the only cure is a bullet. The rule of whites is history. Soon they will be our serfs. It’s now the Age of the Brown Man.”
- Hindu nationalist, Ramesh Sharma

“The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists. Make no mistake about it we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed–not ‘deconstructed’ but destroyed.”

- Jewish studies professor, Dr Noel Ignatiev

Lifted from the Civic Platform of 22 Oct 2007.


I'll take my cue from someone above. I didn't read any more of Wheeler's posts. I just counted exclamation marks.

90 so far in the last eight posts. I may have missed a couple...but, there you have it.


"Now that you've conceded defeat, I'm satisfied.
Shild "

Is that really the best you have?
::::::sigh:::::::::

Ok....


On the USA Today Life Section is a blurb in the sidebar about "Potter fans discuss Dumbledore news".

Here is the pertinent sentence:

"Mellissa Anelli, Webmaster of the Cauldron (that is the Leaky Cauldron, one of two of the most popular Potter websites), told the Associated Press, "Jo Rowling calling any Harry Potter character gay would make wonderful strides in tolerance toward homosexuality."


"Tolerance". If we are taught to be tolerant to homosexuals, then we must be tolerant towards those who race-mix. We must be tolerant of everything abhorent. What J.K. Rowling is doing is teaching that "Tolerance" is the overriding Moral value and Tolerance trumps "The Good". What is the Good? For JK Rowling it is Cultural Marxism. It is all about breaking the Natural Law. Male lying with female is the Natural Law. Staying with one's own tribe and intermarrying with one's own tribe is the Natural Law.

All this is against Cultural Marxism. These two feelings Male with female and being in one's own tribe are quasi instinctive in Man. Man has a natural GUT FEELING against homosexuality and race-mixing! Divine law backs this up.

Cultural Marxism is about breaking down barriers. Bigotry exists when the barriers are crossed. Volkenhass and belonging exist to maintain barriers, boundaries. The Natural Law is about barriers and boundaries.

For the sake of peace, all boundaries, barriers MUST be demolished. This is why the cultural marxist codeword "Tolerance" is used.

JK Rowling is a communist agent preaching cultural marxism.


Re: Pinotopolis | 10.23.07 - 1:29 am |

I guess I haven't quite grasped the subtle art of Internet humor.

Anyway, stripped of attempts to garner snickers from whoever's still around, What I am saying is this:

You have admitted that moral judgements are all subjective opinion, not objective facts, and you can't say that one moral outlook is objectively better than another. This is exactly what I have been trying to convince you to admit since you directed that offensive and baseless pronouncement of moral superiority against the Aardvark.

What is the point of trying to convince you to believe something if you already believe it?

Also, agreeing with me does not truly fall into the "defeat" category. Quite the opposite, in fact.


For thousands of years of human existence, other than at the Tower of Babel, Man grouped himself by tribes. The Greeks have a saying, "Same Face, Same Race". Did the American Indians all congregate into one large seamless mass? NO. They all stayed and maintained their tribal identity for thousands of years! Man has done the same everywhere; in China, In India, In Africa, on the Pacific Islands, in Europe. Man has always segregated himself into his relations. One reason has been language. Volkenhass amongst men have prevented their coalescing for thousands of years.

For thousands of years, man has stayed in homogeneous groups. Man has ALWAYS PREFERRED homogeneous groups for thousands of years.

But since the advent of communism in just the last 200 years, we are faced with race-mixing.

It is in every movie now. The star lead Euro-man must have a Afro side-kick. Retailer's advertisements are always race-mixed. TV is full of race-mixing. Our sports teams are race-mixed. Our military units are race-mixed. Everywhere we turn we are confronted with a VISUAL ACCOUNT of race-mixing. Never mind actual miscegenation. Look at Star Trek; the cosmopolitian crew! Even before any miscegenation takes place, our media, overwhelmingly controlled by Jews, and we are being conditioned to not only accept but demand that our Media be race-mixed. We are confronted by it daily that we are forced to become accustomed to race mixing.

We now accept it as NORMAL and if minorities are NOT present in some media, we now consider it abnormal.

Our world has become topsy turvy. What once was natural is now unnatural and what was a long time ago considered strange is now normal.

Face it folks, you have accepted race-mixing already. It is a fait accompli. Mixed sports teams are now normal--- you already accept visual miscegenation---real miscegenation is then easy and normal!

The code word "diversity" is also a cultural marxist term. You already accept diverstiy. You accept multiculturalism. Multiculturalsim is NOT Western Culture but Marxist culture. This is the Universe of Harry Potter. Harry Potter is the first literature of Multiculturalism, not Western Culture. Harry Potter and Star Trek mark the death of Western Culture.

We all live in Marxist Culture.


"...difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance."

What do you think happens every Weekend on a Football Field, Mr. Disraeli? UH?

Superiority of one Team shows itself and when it has the State Championship Trophy or the Superbowl ring----That Team HAS PREDOMINANCE.

What the hell goes on at a sports field?

The Predominance of a one team or one player!

Who had Games? The Greeks.

Because they always sought to be better, than the other in running, in throwing the javelin and the discus throw. The seeking of predominance, i.e. the Olympic games, is a Greek/Western Thing!

The Seeking of predominance is what a bad thing? It happens everywhere at all times.

Mr. Disraeli, Does NOT Cream rise to the top? Is that not part of the Natural Order?

Does not Fresh Water sit on top of Salt Water, Mr. Disraeli?

Does Oil and water mix Mr. Disraeli?

Mr. Disraeli, you stupid Jew, how many bulls in a cow herd? Does not ONE Bull gain predominance in a Cow Herd?

Mr. Disraeli, how many dominant pairs in a Wolf Pack, you stupid Jew?

Is there not always something dominant over others in the natural Order?

The Ancient Greek poets pointed out

"Tis meet that Greek should rule over Barbarian"


Shouldn't the superior rule over the inferior Mr. Disraeli? Should civilization rule over barbarian? Should Good rule over Evil? Should Intelligence rule over dumb? Should Male rule over female? Should Adult rule over child?

To these questions Disreali would say NO. Predominance is evil.

So I take it then that God should NOT rule over Man! This is the seat of rebellion! This is disorder.

Aristotle writes:
"Authority and subordination are conditions NOT ONLY Inevitable but also expedient; in some caces things are marked out from the moment of birt to rule or to be ruled. And the te are many varieties both of rulers and of subjects" Politics, 1251a 20f Loeb pg 19


"There is ALWAYS found a ruling and a subject factor".


It is either-or people. Either you are in authority, predominance, or you are in subjection! Either your Brain runs you or your organs. Either the Spirit rules your passions or your passions rule you!

All things are in either Authority or Subjection, and Mr. Disraeli the Jew hates this!

Just like some people are born to rule, some races are born to rule. This is ordained in the Natural Order! And in the Scriptures. Aristotle, like a typical Greek, like a typical Westerner, is aware and cognizant of the natural order. This principle is throughout the Natural and Spiritual Order!

The Jew on the other hand is ignorant of this. This is what the Jews are undermining with their communist ideology!


"The difference of race is one of the reasons why I fear war may always exist; because race implies difference, difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance."


The above quote is from Benjamin Disraeli.

Now ask your self this question---When did he live?

He was born 21 December 1804 and died on 19 April 1881.

This man died in 1881! What is this quote above about? It is about destroying Race. Hitler was in the 1920's.

This sentiment of "destroying Race" was given in a Speech to the House of Commons Speech in the House of Commons in 1849!

This sentiment is prevalent amongst the Jews way before the time of Hitler! Karl Marx wrote his Commie Manifest in 1848!

What was the Communist Party of Germany all about in the life of Germany? Why were two Jews Kurt Eisner and Rosa Luxemburg teaching in Germany?

Here is what Kurt Eisner is famous for::::
"As a German socialist journalist and statesman, he organized the Socialist Revolution that achieved the overthrow of the monarchy in Bavaria (in 1918). from Wikipedia


Where did Hitler begin in Germany----In Bavaria! Kurt Eisner destroys the monarchy in Bavaria and Hitler begins in Bavaria!

Why do they seek the death and expulsion of kings? Because Kings protect their people. Kings are the Father of their people. Kings have a sense of loyalty to all their people. Because Kings wouldn't be subjected to another! Getting rid of the Kings is the first step in getting rid of Race!

What happened next? He was assinated and:

"His assassination resulted in the establishment of the Bavarian Soviet Republic and parliament and government fleeing Munich." from Wikipedia


A "Soviet Republic" in Bavaria? What did the Commies seek? The dissolution of the German Race! What did Hitler attempt to do? Restore and invigorate the German Race!

What is evil in the site of our political, academic, church, military, and intelligentsia? PURITY OF RACE. What is the Jewish agenda? Destroying Race!

In 1849, Benjamin Disraeli saw the need to destroy race 70 years before the Political activity of Adolf Hitler.

Who is really decieved around here?


Well, Well, Well, well wonders never cease!

Get this.

The Weekly Standard, run by a Jew Irving Kristol, which touts itself as a "Conservative Magazine" published an article titled "The Inventor of Modern Conservativism"

And who do you think they named as the Inventor of Modern Conservativism?

Think real hard folks!

Benjamin Disraeli


That's right folks, Benjamin Disraeli is the inventor of Modern Conservatism!

It gets even better folks!

"Twice Prime minister of Great Britain, romantic novelist, inventor of modern conservatism--was a neocon in the plain sense of the word, a "new conservative" who began his career on the left.


They crown Benjamin Disraeli a Neo-conservative. What is Neo-conservative a code word for? Jew. What is Benjamin Disraeli? A Jew! What is the Weekly Standard? A Jewish run publication! Who controls our White House and Foreign Policy? The Neo-conservatives!

"He was a statesman who remodeled Europe and a thinker who examined some of the hardest of all political, social, and philosophical questions: How should democratic government work, what does party politics mean, where do the Jews fit in?


He """"remodeled"""" Europe????? What's this?

Here he is:
"A Jewish writer who anguished over poverty, believed in democracy and condemned (in prophetic language) the evils of "exclusion"?


What are "the evils of exclusion"? Is not called Segregation? Is not the evils of exclusion called Bigotry? Is not the evils of exclusion called the Caste system inherent in most of old traditional historical European societies? What does JK. Rowling rail against in her Harry Potter series? the evils of exclusion?

Benjamin Disraeli is noted as the founder of "Two Party Politics". That is why we have the Republicrat party that is controlled by the Neo-conservatives of Today!

Although the 1832 reform did not establish democracy--it enlarged the franchise to a point where roughly one in five adult males could vote--it made clear that Britain was headed towards democracy and would get there eventually. Obviously no "rich man's party" can prevail in a democracy. However prosperous the nation, the rich are never a majority. The Tory party had to change or face slow, painful death as democracy came on strong.


What does Aristotle define democracy as? The Rule of the Poor! What did Benjamin Disraeli do?---turn the Tory party around:

"Disraeli believed in the second alternative. He wanted the Tories to care about poverty, favor democracy, be "inclusive," and hold the nation's traditions in deep romantic reverence--in other words, be just like him."


Isn't that Rowling's message also? The villians of her book are the exclusionists, and the inclusionists are the Heros!

The rest of the article is here: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Co...8cdapm.asp? pg=2


The conservative party is to favor democracy?????

When has conservativism been about democracy?

The first conservative in Western Culture was Socrates and Plato! The first name for the idea of conservativism in Greek was "misodemos"--hater of democracy!

The word "conservative" is a French word that was coined for the opposition of the French Revolution which was a democracy and now just 50 years after the French Revolution---conservatives are to be for "democracy"!!!!

How the word gets turned around! A conservative being for democracy is an oxymoron! A conservative would be the loyalists of the American Revolution! A conservative is a Rightist, hence a Monarchist! A conservative is for the Old Order--Kings, Royalty, Aristocracy! NOT for democracy!

Benjamin Disraeli is a Judas Goat! And what is democracy synonymous with? Socialism and Communism!

See the vectors!


This is a new one on me folks:

"Hard-headed but profoundly spiritual nationalism came naturally to him as a Jew, and turned out to be exactly the right basis for a new, progressive conservatism.


What the hell is "progressive conservatism"? Is that not a glaring oxymoron?

Do you know what the basis of Western Thought is? It is Paramenides Principle of non-contradiction! This is the basis of Logic. The principle of non-contradiction is not Semitic but what we have here is a Semitic phrase--the language of the double mind, of the hypocritical mind.

How the hell can you have a "progressive" conservative?
(from the same article)


Who is the contempary of Benjamin Disraeli?

Karl Marx!

Both are Jews. Both became baptized Christians. Neither was baptized under "right" conditions. Marx's parents wanted to escape the restrictions of Christendom's rules and D'Israeli, father of Benjamin, angry at his synagogue, baptized his son.

Both lived in London.

Karl Marx is the founder of Communism, International Socialism.

Benjamin Disraeli is the founder of neo-conservatism.

What is the connection between the two?

Democracy and Socialism. Socialism is Democracy and Democracy is Socialism. They are one and the same.

What did the two advocate? Democracy! What the two advocate? the dissolution of race!


If it talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck,---it's a duck.

If you accept visual miscegnation,

If you accept that the Government mandated diversity laws for employers,

If you accept race-mixed sports teams,

If you accept race-mixed schools

If you accept race-mixed military units

You already are a communist.
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We went to fighting communism in the 60's from Korea and Vietnam, to fighting a war on the behalf of communist ideals; i.e. the Serbian War. Wesley Clark, quoted above, that there will be NO MORE ethnically pure states, is the reason we bombed Serbia.

We went from fighting communism to fighting communist wars---in the span of 20 years.

This is what you get with a creedal nation---creeds blow like the wind, And America, as typical of a creedal nation, changes its spots---America has NO permanency.

We live in a communist world.


Race-mixing is Soul-mixing.

In the Bible there are blessings and there are curses. Where are the blessings and the curses laid upon?

Does anybody know?

On the Soul!

Some curses are permanent, some for a time. Some blessings are permanent, some for a time.

In Deuteronomy chapter 28, curses are laid upon the Hebrew people if they ever stop obeying, hearkening unto the Word of God. They rejected the Word of God, Jesus Christ, and the Curses of Deut. 28 have been laid upon them!

Those curses are laid upon the soul! They are a Mark upon the soul!

All Semites of the sons of Isaac fall under that curse. All Jews have that Curse upon them---that permanently resides upon them.

Any race that marries a Jew shares in that curse!

Why do we promote miscegenation?

In the book of Genesis, Ham, one of the sons of Noah, is cursed with being a slave! All the sons of Ham are cursed with slavery.

Any race that marries an African, shares in that curse!

Under Gresham's law, Bad drives out good. If you marry an accursed race, their bad curse becomes a part of the children! Bad drives out good!

In the book of Genesis, the other half of the Semitic Race, the Ismaelites, are also cursed. Ismaelites are cursed with being permanent antagonists to everyone about them! If one marries an Arab, his curse follows into the children!

The Asiatic people, I surmise, have the Curse of Cain! for the mark of Cain, is their slanted eyes.

All that marry into the Asiatic races, share in the curse.

What I find unbelievable is that the Church, is totally ingnorant on blessings and curses.

The only people not Cursed in the Bible are the Indo-Europeans, the Japthites. Why would Europeans marry accursed races, I have no clue. But these are the dangers of miscegenation! A race's curse falls into the children, and is a mark on the soul, just like the curse on the females is pain in childbearing which follows every human female soul!

And NO Christ's sacrifice DID NOT take away the curses! If it did, then why are women still punished by pain at childbirth?

Curses are real and they do exist, and they are attached to souls. You marry an accursed race, and the children will share in the curse!


What is Race?

Race/Tribe/Nationality/Ethnicity is the Golden Mean!

Say what?

Is not the Trinity the Golden Mean? Is not the Golden Mean a central fact of the Good in the Natural Order? Is not the Golden mean central to Virtue?

What is the excess of Mankind? One World Government.

What is the deficiency? Individualism or Anarchy.

What is the Golden Mean between One World Government and Individualism?

Race/Tribe/Nationality/Ethnicity.

Race, Tribe, Nationality, Ethnicity lie in the middle between the excess--One Large group called One world Government and the deficiency or no group called individualism or anarchy!

Race is the Golden Mean! God intended for Races. This is the reason why God ended the Tower of Babel! Race is the Golden Mean! God made tribes of man in Genesis Chapter 10. In Chapter 11, Man was created a superstate called the Tower of Babel---God destroyed the Tower of Babel and returned man to the design God intended Race!

See, the Devil wants complete control of the World. In many instances, the Devil tried to do that with Imperialism starting with the Sumerians, Babylonians, then the Pharoahs, then the Assyrians, then Alexander the Great, the Romans.

See, the act of race nation, tribes, prevents the devil from getting complete control. He can only get it partially; one at a time.

With the dissolution of race and all coalescing under a One World Government, a United Nations, the devil will have complete mastery over Mankind.

There is Great Wisdom why God created Races!


Here I will show you the paradigm of what goes on, The paradigm of Jewish supremacy once European monarchy is destroyed.

The example of Kurt Eisner is the archtype of this paradigm.

"On 7 November 1918, the anniversary of the Russian October Revolution, Kurt Eisner of the Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany (USPD) declared Bavaria a "free state" – a declaration which overthrew the monarchy of the Wittelsbach dynasty which had ruled for over 700 years. Eisner became Minister-President of Bavaria." fr Wikipedia


Let's see, a Jew instigates rebellion, deceives the people in getting rid of their royalty that lasted 700 years---and who then sits in the place of the king???

Did you guess?

Can you guess?

A Jew! Let's see the German people expell their own flesh and blood leadership and accept a Semite as their leader--mmmm--Is that weird or what?

Let's look at Russia.

Jews instigate rebellion, (called Bolsheviks) deceives the people in getting rid of their royalty that lasted 1000 years---and who then sits in the place of the king???

Lenin and Trotsky--Jew.


Let's look at the French Revolution.

The people kill their king because the Enlightenment thinkers have been reading the Kabbala, they kill their tribal king and 200 years later adopt a Jew Nicholas Sarkozy to lead them!

Is this not weird?

Now, we go to America which fought strenously to be free of their Tribal King, George III.

Now, two hundred years later, Neo-conservatives, practically all Jews and the rest philosemites control the Country and Semites control some 90% of the media.

People get rid of their God-Ordained flesh and blood leaders---following the teaching of Jewish communists and Englightenment Kabbala readers---and wa-la---eventually all those countries are led by Jews?

This is a paradigm of the Natural Law: Nature abhors a vacuum.

Well, if you overthrow your flesh and blood rulers, then Nature ordains that foreigners will lead you.

Cream will rise to the top, Good cream (your ethnic leaders) or Bad Cream (an accursed aristocratic race), either way you will be led.


You know, I have to laugh now when I hear the reasons for the rise of National Socialism:

1. the anti-semitism of Christianity for all those years in Europe

2. Germans are a wicked race.

3. How in modern times, that the Germans regressed into barbarity

4. The Germans are demented

5. Europeans are sick

6. Race is the problem

7. Purity is the problem

One could go on and on and on of the myraid of reasons of why WWII and the rise of Adolf Hitler.

And it's like, "Out of the Blue" this happened. Like it was strange. That Europe is somehow intrinsically sick. That nationalism is the reason for it.

But where do all these answers come from? From a media that Jewish controlled? From a ton of liberal leftist academia, many Jewish.

What does the Bible say of the Jews, "That they will be blinded and astounded". In other words, they can't see straight. They're amused by shadows and think the shadows, their reading in accordance with their ideology.

But it is funny that all of these sources don't point to the numerous and ubiquitious Soviet Republics that sprouted everywhere in Germany after WWI. Who led these Soviet Republics?

Why it was Jewish communists!

What did Jewish communists teach?

Let's look at one--Rosa Luxemburg. Let's look at one of her writings posted at the Libertarian Communist Library titled "The Nationalities Question in the Russian Revolution".

"actually involve the most valuable and even indispensable foundations of socialist policy, whereas the famous "right of self-determination of nations" is nothing but hollow, bourgeois phraseology and humbug."


She is attacking Lenin's call for the "right of self-determination of nations". Lenin is re-instilling nationalism amongst the satelite provinces of the once Czarist Russia.

She is calling out Lenin who is NOT being true to Socialist dogma!

"How does it happen then, that in all these lands the counter-revolution suddenly triumphs? The nationalist movement, just because it tore the proletariat loose from Russia, crippled it thereby, and delivered it into the hands of the bourgeoisie of the border countries.

Instead of acting in the same spirit of genuine, international, class policy which they represented in other matters, instead of working for the most compact union of the revolutionary forces throughout the area of the Empire, instead of defending tooth and nail the integrity of the Russian Empire as an area of revolution and opposing to all forms of separatism the solidarity and inseparability of the proletarians in all lands within the sphere of the Russian Revolution as the highest command of politics, the Bolsheviks, by their hollow nationalistic phraseology concerning the "right of self-determination to the point of separation," have accomplished quite the contrary and supplied the bourgeoisie in all border states with the finest, the most desirable pretext, the very banner of the counter-revolutionary efforts. Instead of warning the proletariat in the border countries against all forms of separatism as mere bourgeois traps, they did nothing but confuse the masses in all the border countries by their slogan and delivered them up to the demagogy of the bourgeois classes. By this nationalistic demand they brought on the disintegration of Russia itself, pressed into the enemy's hand the knife which it was to thrust into the heart of the Russian Revolution.


Here she is decrying the rise of nationalism! Nationalism is counter-revolutionary. Nationalism is seperatism! Nationalism is reactionary!

Nationalism is Eeeevilllll! Just like JK Rowling, pure blood is Eeevillll!

"It is obvious that the phrases concerning self-determination and the entire nationalist movement, which at present constitute the greatest danger for international socialism, have experienced an extraordinary strengthening from the Russian Revolution and the Brest negotiations.


Who colored Germany? Kurt Eisner and Rosa Luxemburg!

What is the Communist agenda? Race dissolution!

Who is a real threat to the German People? Kurt Eisner and Rosa Luxemburg!

In Nature, there is ALWAYS an equal and opposite force! There would be NO Adolf Hitler---if there was NO Communism! The Jews are pointing the finger at everybody else but where it really lies---At Jewish communism!

There would be no JK Rowling Harry Potter series with a Blood Purity motiff if it wasn't for the de-racination policies of Communists like Kurt Eisner and Rosa Luxemburg.

The next time you hear some silly excuse about Christianity or Europeans being the reason---Just say "Kurt Eisner and Rosa Luxemburg"!


"For every action there is an equal and opposite reation."


That is what I was trying to say. Hitler is the "equal and opposite reaction" to communism! Hitler isn't abhorent--It is Communism that is!

So the next time you hear the word Hitler, Shout back "Kurt Eisner and Rosa Luxemburg"!!!!


Forgot the link to the Rosa's paper: http://libcom.org/library/nation...ution- luxemburg


What is the French President Nicholas Sarkozy? He is a traitor.

Well of course. If loyalty is not based on blood, then loyalty goes to a creed.

The French Republic is NOT an ethnic entity but a creedal nation. Nicholas Sarkozy doesn't have "loyalty" to his nation--but to a creed of multiculturalism!

Same with America! America is a creedal nation! One doens't have loyalty to the "people" one has loyalty to a "creed". Isn't that why all our politicos are for immigration and open borders? Their loyalty is the political correct creed. There is NO loyalty to people!

See being related, is a demand on loyalty. Where there is NO relationship, permanent and organic, there can be no loyalty! That is why there is loyalty of the leadership of Europe and America to their indigineous people but to the idea of multiculturalism!

Besides there is nothing concrete about "creeds" or "political ideologies", opinions change like the wind!

Blood doesn't change! Blood is permanent, unchanging! When a Monarch is a leader, he has a loyalty to his nation as a Father is loyal to his children--because he is related! It is his Blood! A Monarch would never dream of being disloyal!

On the other hand, leaders, politicos of creedal nations----HAVE NO CONNECTION, with the people! They are NOT blood! The reason they are there is NOT by Blood---but some ideological whim! And Whims change!

There is NO such thing as an "American Conscious". It was one thing yesterday, and another thing today! Creeds have NO permanence! It blows with the wind!

That is why YOU and our compatriots in Europe are being stabbed in the back! In creedal nations, loyalty lies with the ideology--not to your blood relatives!


WLW is cuckoo for Cocoa-Puffs!


Here is Abe Foxman:

"So what to do about it? I can tell you what we do in the US, while recognizing that Israel is a different society. ADL developed model hate crime legislation, which prosecuted hate action (rather than hate speech). Our model was upheld by the US Supreme Court and is the basis for legislation in 45 states across the US.


See, Jews write Legislation to CONTROL Europeans! Jews, a Semitic, Eastern Race, Accursed---Writes Laws for Christian Europeans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can thank your Masonic Founding Fathers for establishing "Seperation of Church and State"! Yes, you dumb stupid morons who dumped the Church for the sake of "liberty". The Roman Catholic Church protected you from the Jews, but now you have destroyed the Church and now you have the ungodly, accursed Jews, writing your laws so you can't fight back against Jewish control and destruction of your societies! Isn't that amazing!!!! What a grand thing multiculturalism is.

How f#$%#@ stupid you people really are--you got rid of your monarchies, you got rid of the Church---and now you are controlled by a people that hate you and your HERITAGE!

"We have far-reaching education programs in the schools, for pre-school kids through high school and on the college campus, providing anti-bias training and teaching about the virtues of diversity."


Anti-bias training? what is that? How about anti-bigotry training! Isn't this so similar to JK Rowling's theme of anti-bigotry!

I DON'T wonder where JK Rowling got her ideas from!

Ohhhhh boy the virtues of diversity!!!! Of communist supplied de-racination policy that we all must follow and this accursed race has control of practically every classroom in America!

See, the bible and Christians and Roman Catholic Priests have NO access to the Classroom---But Commie Jews do to push their communist agenda!

Isn't that great! Americans are so moronic!

"We work with law enforcement throughout the country to help them identify extremist groups and hate crimes and how to deal with these threats to society and to Jews in particular."

This is how Jews control European men and societies---The beat down of anybody that expresses solidarity with his own! You will live in a multicultural society, in communist society, and we have the police to ensure that you will like your death sentence!!!!

The rest of Abe Foxman's article is here: at the Civic Platform: "http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2007/10/26/ foxman-outlines-adls-us-agenda-what-we-do-in-the- us/

The original link is out of service at this time.


The Leadership of modern republics is all ideological.

The French, American, British, Italian leadership of their respective modern republics/democracies is based on gaining leadership THRU ideology! You speak the right cant---you get the power of leading! The media is leftist and so it seeks IDEOLOGICAL PURITY!

Nicholas Sarkozy's loyalty is to his Ideology---not to some stupid people!

On the other hand, A Monarch's duty is to HIS people! He cares for them! A Monarch doesn't reign on the power of ideology---but on his Blood and his heritage! His Family's service to their tribe! His loyalty is NOT to ideology---but to his Tribe, to his Blood!


All evil is hypocritical!

Get this, I just stumbled upon something in the previous post---The Left has always had ----Ideological Purity!!!

Isn't that what Stalin and Lenin and Pol Pot, and Mao did---KILL because one did NOT have Ideological Purity!

Isn't that the basis of Rosa Luxemburg's argument is Ideological Purity!!!!

There will be Purity in the World! If there will be NO Blood purity! There WILL BE Ideological purity! See the shift from Blood to Ideology!

Man always seeks purity! Isn't that the drive behind Christian Orthodoxy and theology--the seeking of pure, right explanations of the Faith!

Isn't this what the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks were fighting about in Moscow! Ideological purity---and ONE IS PUT TO DEATH in the Left if one doesn't have Ideological purity!

Notice in the National Socialist Party of Germany--there was NO ideological purity that there was a wide range of beliefs.

Not so in the communist party---you strayed mentally---you were shot!

Here you have JK Rowling attacking the idea of Blood Purity and her vision is directed by Jewish/communist concerns---but in the real life---it is ideological purity that is maintained--People are persecuted if you don't maintain diverstiy and anti-bias thoughts!

Racists, Racialists, bigots are removed from their jobs, penalized by society! These people, racists, supremacists, pro-european people, are against the Ideological Purity of the dominant Communist Culture!

No doubt many here would like to silence me---Must have Ideological Purity! Can't speak out on certain things! You cant be a racial bigot---but you can surely be a communist bigot!

Larry Summers was canned as President of Harvard for BEING NON-ideologically pure leftist--questioning women in science. He was removed for a thought Crime, a secular Jewish ideology.

Jimmy the Greek was canned from his job for offensive racial remarks.

Rush Limbaugh was canned for offensive racial remarks.

James Watson is fired from his own thinktank!

"James Watson has retired from the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island, where he has been the leading figure since 1968.
for saying Africans are genetically inferior!

If you are NOT Ideologically Pure on the Race issue---You will lose your job, and that means your life!

People People, either the Good rules and persecutes the bad or the Bad rules and the good are persecuted!

There WILL BE Ideological Purity!


This whole attack, this whole game of blood purity and attacking "bigotry" is nonsensical!

There is always bigotry! How come JK Rowling doesn't attack bigotry of Ideology! There is just as much bigotry of non-politically correct ideas and concepts than there is of blood!

But see blood bigotry is natural, organic, permanent, and God-ordained. Ideological purity is of communist-made, ungodly artifice.

If "Blood Purity" is so hateful, why isn't Ideological Purity so hateful?

Because the Human mind thinks in Logic, and Logic is pure or it doesn't work. Logic is Pure. Math is Pure. 2+2=4. That is pure. I would be bigoted against anyone that would say 2+2=5!

Logic is Pure. Math is Pure. Geometry is Pure.

Wisdom is Pure. Good is Pure.

Is not God Pure Himself? Is not Good Pure?

In order to oppose and counteract Communist ideology of de-racination--does not Logic dictate, that the blood purity of a nation be strengthened? How else to maintain National character? The National Soul!


If you look at the animal world---each species stays to itself--Giraffe with Giraffe, Lion with Lion, Wildebeast with Wildebeast. In the Wild, animals stay with their group; it's called Instinct. Instinct is there because God implanted it there. God created instinct. Instinct is like a DOS program; it directs the animals behavior.

On part of instinct is the act of smell, smell determines one's tribe in the animal world. One Lion pride is seperate from another lion pride. Wolf packs operate on smell as well.

Well, Humans don't have smell to the degree the rest of the animal world does. As was noted above, race/nation/tribe/ethnicity is the Golden Mean. It is the Plan of God.

Well, wouldn't God then implant a mechanism to hold race/nation/tribe/ethnicity together?

Yes, he would. God doesn't create a thing without tools to work with.

God implanted "Belonging" and "Volkenhass" in all people. Volkenhass is a way of maintaining borders. This is the purpose of Volkenhass. Volkenhass is about "maintaining the metaphysical boundaries of the human race" since smell is not of use for Humans.

It is natural for humans to seek their own. "To cleave to his like". This is normal.

What is "diversity"? Ever hear of "Diversity training"? Why? Because you must be socially conditioned to accept diversity!!! Diversity is abnormal--homogeneity is normal! What is going on in the media is social conditioning for Diversity!

This is why the politicos are for Open borders, immigration and all sorts of handouts to immigrants. Diverstiy is the Ideological goal! Not Nationalism.

Either you are for Diversity---Or you are a Nationalist. If you are a multiculturalist, you are against bigotry. If you are a nationalist--when then you MUST be a bigot! Bigotry and Nationalism go together!

Destroying bigotry--destroys nationalism. For it is bigotry that keeps the nations distinct; maintains the metaphysical boundaries of the tribal borders!

If God created Race, then God implanted also the mechanisms to maintain Race! To undermine the mechanism that maintains race, is to undermine Race itself!!!!!!!

Welcome to Communist Culture. Welcome to the Novus Ordo. The Novus Ordo IS Multiculturalism. The Novus Ordo is One World Government--The Nation dies; America is the Novus Ordo---Relentlessly pushing the Masonic/Jewish idea.


Christendom is built on two Towers---Monarchy and the Roman Catholic Church.

These two barriers prevented the Rise of Jewish Power.

You f$#%#@$ idiots were decieved into destroying Monarchy and the Roman Catholic Church.

Now you are enlsaved to Jewish Power! Your ethnic identities are being erased--you are becoming mongrel children with no tribe to protect you! You have all been mongrelized, socially conditioned to accept what is abnormal.

Christendom is the product of natural organic growth. Christendom is what every Christian should strive for.

It says in the Bible: "God dwelleth with him who dwelleth in Wisdom".

What is Wisdom folks?

Wisdom is NOT ideology and ideology is NOT Wisdom! Wisdom is the "the knowledge of divine and human things and their causes". What is reality and how does Reality work?

Ideology answers none of this. Ideology is human sentiment that has NO connection to reality. Reality, i.e. the Natural Law, destroys all ideology! You can not abrogate the Laws of Nature and expect to live.

What did Adam fail to do?

Adam failed at obeying the law.

God put man on this earth to learn a lesson---obey the law and live---or disobey the law and perish!

And you are perishing--disappearing from the face of the earth! You are disobeying the Natural Law and you are perishing because of it!


The maintenence of Monarchy is the maintenence of nationhood!


That the truth of the wrongness of interracial marriage is seen in the natural world, in most societies and in Divine revelation. It is a general rule and therefore a part of the Natural Law.
WLindsayWheeler

Rahab. Ruth. Gentiles who married Jews. (And who religiously became Jews. But were racially not Jewish.) And that's just in Jesus' lineage. And just off of the top of my head. (Come to think of it, Moses hooked up with a shiksa.)


Another law of the natural order Duckman is that EXCEPTIONS don't make the law! When Ruth married a Jew--she became Jewish--One flesh. Boaz married her because the Mosaic law told him to to raise up heirs of a dead brother!

Exceptions, Exceptions.

And after marrying a foreigner--the rest of the line continued marrying within the tribe!

Exceptions don't make the rule Duckman. What about the hundreds of marriages in between Duckman?

What is the general rule? "Man shall cleave to his Like"!


"Readers of the previous article in this series have already got to know documents which prove irrefutably the convergence between the League of Nations idea and the Masonic action. Among the numerous related Jewish testimonies, here is one of the most significant : "The League of Nations is not so much a creature of Wilson as it is a great work of Judaism, of which we can be proud. The League of Nations idea is related to that of the great prophets of Israel. Isaiah once said that swords will have to give way to ploughshares and that never again will one people have to fight another. It is to this ancient order of Jewish ideas that the League of Nations brings us back. Its origin lies in the world-outlook of the prophets, pervading the whole world with love. Thus, the idea of the League of Nations, the fraternity of peoples, is a pure Jewish heritage" (cf. Fritsch, p.202). If the Masonic International Congress of Paris in 1907, with which the aforementioned article dealt (1), listed among the real objectives of world war, besides the constitution of the League of Nations, the necessary destruction of imperial and monarchic forms still existing in Central Europe, the Jews saw in the collapse of those "unbearable" forms (as the Jew Ludwig called them) an obstacle-clearing essential to the fulfilment of their policy (cf., for instance, the paper Der Jude, the January 1919 issue)."


Now connect this with the book quoted in a previous post on this thread of the need of FDR to instigate the Japenese attack on Pearl Harbor in order for the creation of United Nations.

The League of Nations failed.

The United Nations takes over where the League of Nations left off. The necessity of WWII to further the destruction of the Old Order, of monarchy and Old Europe.

Judiasm and Masonry have the same goals--the destruction of Christendom.


since the Jew spontaneously supports any liberal, democratic and internationalist idea, simply because owing to its condition no people has more to gain than his from the triumph of ideologies of that kind, and from the elimination of any hierarchical, authoritarian, national and traditional order. Besides, the age-old resentment of the Jew against Catholicism goes perfectly with the Masonic hatred against Rome and with the symbol of a temple which bears a Jewish name which, in the final analysis, has the signification of a rallying point for the forces of an international front hostile to supranational Catholic authority.


The elimination of hierarchy, authority, traditional order is the plan all along. Notice how Libertarianism is a vehicle for this ideology of elimination and two of the three founders of Libertarianism are Jews.

Most note that a conspiracy is a cabal of members who meet. But there is another form of conspiracy, it is about throwing out a doctrine, a plan of action, a sort of DOS program, that people will pick up and act upon it themselves without having direct communication with other people of like minded. It is like throwing out sheets of music and people who pick them up, all begin to play the same tune--The Conspiracy is moved forward, acted upon, without any kind of direct leadership. It is leadershipless conspiracy. This is what is common between Communism, Social Democracy, Freemasonry, Libertarianism and the Jews. It is all the same program:

1) The Universal Brotherhood of Man

2) Egalitarianism

3) Socialism

4) Democracy

5) Seperation of Church and State

6) De-racination

7) anti-monarchy

This program is picked up by all people that have a natural affinity already--a hatred of the Old Order. A hatred of Roman Catholic Christendom with its Monarchy!

That all these nefarious ideologies are working toward the same goal is not far-fetched. They all have the same goals but it isn't directly organized. All operate on the same program without ever being coordinated by a central authority.

This quote and the previous quotes are taken from: http://thompkins_cariou.tripod.c...d.com/ id60.html


Here is another quote from that article:

Baruch Levi wrote to Karl Marx, which are not well-known and are worth quoting :
"The Jewish people, as a whole, will be its own Messiah. Its domination on the world will be achieved by the union of the other human races, through the elimination of frontiers and of monarchies, which are the ramparts of particularism, and through the formation of a worldwide republic, in which the Jews will enjoy their rights everywhere. In this new organisation of humanity, the sons of Israel, who are now scattered throughout the world, will be able, without obstacles, to become everywhere the leading element, especially if they manage to place the working masses under the control of certain of their own number. The governments of the peoples constituting the worldwide republic, with the help of the proletariat, without this requiring any effort, will all fall into the hands of the Jews. Private property can then be subject to rulers of Jewish origin, who will control the state goods everywhere. Thus, the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled, according to which Jews, when the time comes, will possess the keys of the wealth of all the peoples of the world (cf. Revue de Paris, 35, 11, p.574).


Here it is again, a perfect corallary to the quote of Benjamin Disraeli--the elimination of nations, the bringing of world wide peace, an establishment of a New Order.

This is the goals, the objectives are laid out by Abe Foxman,

"anti-bias and diversity training"


are the objectives.

And sadly, JK Rowling has picked up this DOS program and is repeating this mantra in her books! She is a fellow traveller. She is NOT a member of the conspiracy, but the conspiracy has pushed out the plan and its objectives and like-minded individuals have picked it up and ran with it, becoming co-conspirators without any formal acknowledgement!


In this regard, let's turn now to the United States, with its "All men are born Equal" which is a fallacy and its motto:

"E pluribus Unum"


This "E Pluribus Unum" is of course the motto of the United States which calls itself the "Novus Ordo Secularum". The United States is a Masonic Creation. It is the minature of the grand United Nations. America is the prelude, the guinea pig of sorts, of their idea.

See "E pluribus unim" is a human construct.

What is its opposite:
"Ex uno plures"


This "Ex uno plures" is actually a principle of the Natural Order.

Out of God--came many.

Out of God--came Son and the Holy Spirit

Out of One (family)--came Father, Mother, children.

Out of One (Adam)-- came the many races of the Earth.

Out of One (race)--came King, Aristocracy, commoners.

Egalitarianism is a leveller doctrine; it levels all things and makes many one. Democracy, Socialism are all based on egalitarianism which makes all royalty, aristocracy (if they don't just outright kill them), makes them equal to commoners. It is "E pluribus Unum". Everything is watered down into ONE.

Isn't this the basis of the idea of Judiasm: "Hear O Israel, your lord your God is One".

But Christianity is different---The One is Split into Three! There is a multiplicity of forms in One.

Only by understanding the True Apostolic Christian Doctrine of the Trinity can one understand Reality and The Faith is Christianity---NOT Judiasm. Christianity is an Indo-European Religion and it is Europeans alone that see the Triuneness of the Godhead and that Reality comes from the Godhead. And as the Godhead is--So is the Reality.

Yes there is Mankind---but Mankind, like the Trinity----IS SPLIT into Race/Nation/Tribe/Ethnicity!

The Judiastic mind is against all this--God is ONE and NO other. It is Judaism that teaches, from its own theology, the race-mixing and in the words of Baruch Levi, the end of particularism.

Well, the Trinity has particularism---and then means Reality itself! The whole of the Cosmos shows particularism--what the Ancient Greeks called dikaiosyne! Bigotry and prejudice are part and parcel of particularism. It KEEPS THE plures, plures whereas anti-bigotry ideology is about making all things Unum.

This is the conspiracy. And the female mind, directed to what is weak, naturally has an affinity to this conspiracy, this ideology. There is a difference between Tolkein and Rowling.


When Aristotle writes about the Golden mean, he says it where the extremes meet.

There are two things driving all politics in America:

Universalism (Which Americ is)

And Individualism.

Let's give the proper titles to both of these concepts: International Socialism or Communism is to Universalism and Libertarianism is to Individualism.

Universalism and Individualism seem to be opposed but they really are not--for both go to the same object--One World Government. Libertarianism is anti-nationalistic, is anti-tribal, anti-authoritarian, anti-heirarchical. It breaks all down into everybody is an individual. Well, if everybody is an individual--then, they will coalesce in One Mass and not be particularists. Libertarianism leads to One World Government and this is what OWG is, just a mass of mongrelized individuals.

Communism, International Socialism also goes to the same goal, a mass of individuals under a One World Government. Libertarianism and International Socialism go to the SAME Goal but thru different objectives. They meet.

Whereas Race/Tribe/Nation/ethinicity is the Golden Mean between Universalism/Communism and Individualism/Libertarianism, Race incorporates BOTH communall living and Individualism in a shared atmosphere.

Where as Communism and Libertarianism meet on the OUTSIDE and achieve a perverse meeting of the extremes in a UNUM--One World Government.

Race incorporates both drives in a measured way--Community and Individualism--meet in the INSIDE of a small unit called tribe/nation/race.

Plurality is ensured. Race is the Golden Mean where the extremes meet on the inside. Where the Extremes meet together produces a Unum of destructive power.


Here is a work by Evola:

"Disraeli the Jew and the Empire of the Shopkeepers"


"...the symbol of the new England, the doctrine of 'heroic ambition' ; here, again, we find the pseudo-conservative ideal of Disraeli. Sidonia's solution is a government with conservative ideas but liberal practices." From "Disraeli the Jew and the Empire of the Shopkeepers"


This was published in Septembe 1940.

On a previous post: The Weekly Standard, run by a Jew Irving Kristol, which touts itself as a "Conservative Magazine" published an article titled "The Inventor of Modern Conservativism"

And who do you think they named as the Inventor of Modern Conservativism?

Benjamin Disraeli

"Twice Prime minister of Great Britain, romantic novelist, inventor of modern conservatism--was a neocon in the plain sense of the word, a "new conservative" who began his career on the left."


Benjamin Disraeli actually rewrites the meaning of conservatism! It is a revolution within the form. And who and what are the neo-cons today?

It is all ocultic.


Wow---get this:

"To this end, Disraeli propounded his famous theory of the convergence and reciprocal integration of Judaism and Catholicism. Here is what he wrote in 'Sybil' : "Christianity without Judaism is incomprehensible, in the same way that Judaism without Catholicism is incomplete." In 'Tancred' he adds to this, claiming that the task of the Church is to defend, in a materialistic society, the fundamental principles, of Jewish origin, which are found in the two Testaments. This thesis was so extreme that Carlyle declared the "Jewish insolence" of 'Dizzy' insupportable, and asked "For how much longer shall John Bull allow this absurd monkey to dance upon his stomach?"


And now I don't wonder where the term "judeo-christianity" comes from. It originated in England and it does precisely that except the Catholics balked at it and the Prots picked it up!

What a twisted world we live in. It is all coming very clear now!


We are marching inexorably to disaster of the greatest magnitude.


What did Disraeli advocate?

Empire.

More specifically British Empire. Who was the head of this vast Empire? The East Asia Tea company. (I think I am smudging the company name.) Who bankrolled the East Asia Tea Company? The Banking Houses of London.

Who controlled the Banking Houses of London?

I leave this to YOUR imagination.

What did British Empire do? It spread Enlgish values but more importantly spread the English language. English became the language of Business. English Empire spread Capitalism everywhere. What does Capitalism need? a Secure law-abiding environment. With the British Empire came the spreading and the melding of values changing the host country and its subjects.

What did Disraeli the Jew advocate?

British Empire.

What also is Disraeli famous for?

Being a the First Neo-Conservative. A "progressive Conservative". What is GW Bush supposed to be? A "Compassionate Conservative". And who controls George Bush? The Neo-Conservatives.

Do you see the corollary between "progressive conservatism" and "Compassionate conservatism"?

There is another corollary. These wars in the Middle East are just that--Colonization. Democratization of the Middle East. We are NOT leaving Afghanistan or Iraq---We are collonizing them. We are occupying them, changing them. It is the American Empire!

Why the Spanish American War and the occupation of Cuba? Of the Phillipines? Why the Unconditional Surrenders of Germany and Japan? So we could colonize them in an American Empire. What are we doing in the Middle East?

Who is proposing these wars in the Middle East?

The Neo Conservatives. What was Benjamin Disraeli advocating? Disraeli was BOTH a neo-conservative and an advocate of Empire.

The neo-conservatives in America are Jews and advocates of American Empire--in the Middle East. What does Empire do? It transfers Culture. Why is that important? To Americanize them---To Globalize them. To prepare them.

What else did Benjamin Disraeli advocate? Womans' suffrage!

What is the FIRST THING we did in Afghanistan and Iraq?

We gave the woman in each country the right to vote! Ending particularism of gender!

We are under Zionist Occupied Government with a Global agenda of slavery to the New World Order first accomplished by the murder and killing of monarchs. Once the monarchs were out of the way, the dissolution of race began. Once the dissolution of race is successful, then One World Government.

And America is the Key in all this.

America, delenda est.


What does Globalism need?

A Universal Language.

That is the necessity of the British Empire--the necessity of spreading a language of Business, of capital. The British Empire was a necessary stage for the globalization of the world---just as the American Empire is a necessary preliminary for globalization.

America, delenda est.


What is masonry?

It is the building of something---one brick at a time.

The masons in Europe, pre-modern, built the Cathedrals of Europe, some of them taking over hundreds of years to build.

Freemasonry is about building also but NOT with real bricks but with metaphysical bricks--one brick at a time.

1) Attack religion. Attack Roman Catholicism.

2) Spread Capitalism which destroys religion.

3) Spread Machiavelli's modern definition of a republic---any government WITHOUT a King.

4) The killing of kings and monarchs.

5) Empire, spread Euro culture everywhere, spread one language everywhere, spread the rule of law everywhere; all the necessities for global capitalism.

6) Establishment of a World-wide body. League of Nations. Then, United Nations.

7) Diversity training

8) Anti-bigotry training and laws against it.

9) The raising up of a golem to discredit nationalism

10) produce Multiculturalism. De-racinate the peoples of the world.

Like their Cathedrals, this is not overnight but a long process that takes centuries. Freemasonry is building something alright--and it ain't a Roman Catholic Cathedral. Metaphysical bricks for a metaphysical structure. One huge "Tent" of inclusiveness.


Interviewer: "One of Goblet’s biggest themes is bigotry. It's always been in your books, with the Hitlerlike Lord Voldemort and his followers prejudiced against Muggles (nonmagical people). In book 4, Hermione tries to liberate the school's worker elves, who've been indentured servants so long they lack desire for anything else. Why did you want to explore these themes?

Rowling:

"Because bigotry is probably the thing I detest most. All forms of intolerance, the whole idea of “that which is different from me is necessary evil.” I really like to explore the idea that difference is equal and good. But there's another idea that I like to explore, too. Oppressed groups are not, generally speaking, people who stand firmly together – no, sadly, they kind of subdivide among themselves and fight like hell. That's human nature, so that's what you see here. This world of wizards and witches, they're already ostracized, and then within themselves, they've formed a loathsome pecking order.


How do you administer poison?

How do you camoflage its odor?

By surrounding it, immersing it, in something pretty, in something pleasing.

This is how you administer poison. Like an assasin bug amongst the flowers. Harry Potter is delightful, colerfull, wonderful. But there is a poison masked by all the wonderful environment.

It is Cultural Marxism.

From the same interview:
"It's absolutely the reverse to the British press; I was told yesterday that I'm a Euroskeptic, which is a big buzzword in Britain. I actually woke up at 2 a.m. this morning, went into the kitchen to get some water, and thought, “I know why they said that – they haven't finished the book.” Right at the end, Dumbledore says, “Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.” That is my view. It is very inclusive, and yes, you are right: I am left-wing. "


These quotes taken from: http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/coo...ma/ ewinter.html


WLindsayWheeler: Divine law does not admit exceptions. And certainly not in the lineage of Jesus. And you have conceded that race is not the issue; belief in and following of the one true God is. That is something that is open to everyone. As God said to Abraham, "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice." - Genesis 22:18


"Divine law does not admit exceptions." God caused the Sun to stand still. Every miracle is a suspension of law where God intercedes in Time and space and fixes something. David ate the showbread without being punished. There are exceptions.

I don't dispute that Christianity is open to all. My point is that Nations MUST be defended at all cost.

We are under a Communist threat of race dissolution. It is becoming very real. Why Christians are participating in communist ideology of de-racination is beyond me. This is the heresy of today that has infiltrated all the Christian Churchs, Catholic, Prot, and Orthodox.

Christianity is about "Right Belief" and that right belief does NOT include de-racination! De-racination is NOT the will of God.

Furthermore, orthodox apostolic Christianity can not survive without Western Man!


I ask you all---What was the First Global Maritime Power?

Spain.

Spain was a Major Maritime Power well before Columbus's time.

What did many Jews do? They converted over to Christianity. Not only that, many married into the Spanish Aristocracy. What for? For Money.

What was the importance of all this?

For beginning the Globalization process with a Maritime Power that had Global reach.

Well, the Spanish Kings thwarted this by instituting an Inquisition to ferret out FALSE conversions. The Marranos, the converted Jews, were NOT serious about their conversion!

The Jews were kicked out of Spain and the Inquisition scared off the rest.

Where did they Go?

England.

Julius Evola in his article about Disraeli, points to the same paradigm that happened in Spain---false conversions---intermarriage with the British Aristocracy---the creation of the British Israelite heresy---and the Jews got to control England!

The British Monarch stays because the British Monarch is Protestant!

You DON'T have orthodoxy amongst Protestants--It is live and let live kind of modality! The British could never engage in an Inquisition! One Heretic is as good as another Heretic!

Spain had the balls to clear out their false conversions---England did not--and what you get is Benjamin Disraeli---and the Jewish plan for globalisation, de-racination, for "judeo-christianity".

Compare How Spain treated the Jews and England. It is very different.


Let me ask this, all these people push Democracy all the time. Disraeli was for democracy!

Yet, Disreali was also for Destruction of Race!

So where did People VOTE on being deracinated? Was there ever a Debate? Was this voted ON? Did these "believers in Democracy" come out and spell out this plan in plain sight and in plain language?

The answer to all of this is NO.

We are being socially conditioned, politicaly manuevered, enconomically manipulated to become a de-racinated One World Government!

If you seek the death of something, then you also are subject to Death!

Eye for an eye,
Tooth for a tooth,
Life for Life.

If these people plan the Death of Race/Nation/Tribe/Ethnicity, then they are guilty of murder, and are punishable by Death!

The killing of Race/Nation is a Murderous Act! The punishment for pushing this agenda IS Death! You seek my death---I have every recourse to put you to death!

All Communists rate the Death Penalty! All people who push the De-racination agenda---deserve Justice.

Killing of Race---Kills the individual as well. Man is a complicated creature. And since man is complicated, Society/Race/Tribe/Nation/Ethnicity, which is made up of man, is also complicated! If God created Race---That Means That Man NEEDS Race! For the proper functioning of Man---Man needs Race! To Kill Race/Nation---is to DEFORM man!

The Killing of Race/nation--is about DEFORMING MAN!

If the General population advocates, pushes, spreads this Race killing ideology---It is War!

I let your imaginations take over from here and draw more conclusions! The advocate of the Killing of Nation---is the Crime of Murder----Punishable by Death!


At Taki's Top drawer, the Blog Section, is a post "A provedential war" with this from another poster:

"The ruling caste in Turkey is a group of people called the Dönmeh. These Dönmeh used to be Jews who converted to Islam, but secretly kept their Jewish traditions and religion, just like the Jews in Spain once did. It is perhaps easier to understand the Turkish ruling class affinity towards Israel and its dislike of “religion”. The disliked religion in question is of course Islam, the religion of the common folks in Turkey."

Here is a third case of Jews falsely converting to the dominant religion. This is a pattern folks. They ingratiate themselves, and then rule others.

The Spanish Catholics were smart--they ferreted them out. The Jews gravitate to power. They are driven for the lust for power.

This quote can be found in the comment section of this post:http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/ a_providential_war/


Oh, well. I knew it was futile when I started.


As of 30 Oct. 2007, Dr. Makow has on his site a letter from Kevin Ambrams titled "A Jewish Response from Kevin Abrams, Co Author of "The Pink Swastika". Kevin Ambrams is the author of the Pink Swastika. Here are the pertinent quotes:

"...the Jewish mission to the world is liberation FROM bondage and freedom FROM slavery... for all mankind."

Do you see the Messiah complex in this man's words? "The Jewish mission"? No. What happened to the mission of Jesus Christ? What this actually is, is a play on Jesus the messiah's mission. Jesus Christ came to liberate man from the Grasp of the Devil and Death--This Jew, Ambrams, is about seeking man's MATERIALISTIC liberation in this world. This is the basis of socialism and communism. Furthermore, doesn't this sound a little like Libertarianism? Is this why the Jew goes around killing and advocating the killing of monarchs? That European man should be liberated from his Tribal leader?

What is going on is that the Jew is teaching liberation from everything, Tradition, Natural Law, Morality?

"And as Viktor Frankel, author of Doctor of The Soul, and survivor of Auschwitz observed, "there are only two types of people in the world, builders and plunderers."
"Builders"? What does he mean "builders"? What are they building? Why do we need building for? I have my race, my family, what furthermore needs to be done? What does a Christian need? Baptism and to keep it. What more is there?

Nothing more. Look at the similarity between his "building" and Freemasonry. What is masonry? but building!

"The Jewish mission and focus is predicated upon truth and a repair of this world..."
There is NO such thing as "repair" of this world! That is NOT Christianity. Jesus said this world is going to be destroyed---NOT fixed! Jewish mentality is at great odds with Christian Thinking.


God tests people. God doesn't make things easy. God puts burdens on people.

When God led out the Hebrews from Egypt, He commanded genocide. The Hebrews flinched from this command. They didn't do what they were told.

The pagan idolators were poisionous to the Monotheistic faith of the Hebrews. The Hebrews didn't do as they were told, and the consequences were that the people were poisoned by the pagan remnants they failed to kill.

Here is the mystery. That what God commanded, they didn't do, and the thing, not accomplished, poisoned them. They would have had their health and life if they listened.
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Now, come today, and the same thing is true of Christians.

"And it shall come to pass when all these things shall have come upon thee, the blessing AND THE C-U-R-S-E, which I have set before thy face, and thou shalt call them to mind among the nations, wherein the Lord shall have scattered thee..." LXX, Deut. 30.1


Upon the Jews has fallen a curse. In the Old Catholic Church, the Jews were forced to live in segregated sections called ghettos because they are "accursed". This is their punishment--This is what God has ordained upon them; but like the Hebrews of Old, modern Christians have pussied out. They can't, they won't obey God and so give the accursed Jew free reign in their society---And what has happened?

Our societies have become poisoned! We don't believe in God. We flinch from the Hard stuff. We fail, and we get our just deserts.

There is a purpose God does things and this is a test of Christianity whether it believes in God and can do what He says. And obviously we fail and so suffer the consequences! This is the Wisdom of God. God does this on purpose. It is a test. And failure of the test brings death. And so it does.

The Jew must be put in the Golden Mean--between the excess of freedom and the deficiency of non-existence, genocide. For his own good, since he can't control himself, has not repented, has not reconciled himself to God, he must be placed in the Middle--Segregated from European Christianity, to be a wanderer. That is his punishment. His punishment, like Adams punishment, is also his medicine!

When Evanglical Christians pander to philosemitism, they are really abettors to crime. "They Know NOT what they do". They are not really helping the Jew but not only harming him but also aggrandizing the blindness and futility of the Jew. They increase the Hardness of Heart of the Jew. They counsel the continuing instransigence of the Jew.

If what God commands is not carried out, the poison of the curse of the Jew poisons Christian societies and the death of Christendom. You don't believe, and your unbelief will come back and haunt you...it will afflict you. It is a scourge.

You don't do what God asks you to do, if you flinch from what is the Hard, the Good, then it will come and afflict you. Either you afflict it, or it will afflict you.

The Jew has NO rights! When Baruch Levi says: "...in which the Jews will enjoy their rights everywhere.", he points to why the upheavel in our societies and the destruction of Christendom---they want something, that is NOT granted to them---They are under a curse and the Curse MUST be carried out. They want to be freed from it without having repented. If you are too pusillanious to carry it out, then their disease will be spread amongst you. You will share in it.

What do you do when someone has the plague?

You quarantine him!

The same goes for a spiritual plague---you quarantine him! That is what Wisdom teaches.

Stop with all this so-called "ideology"! God doesn't go for Ideology. The only thing that matters is Wisdom! "God ONLY dwells with him who dwelleth IN Wisdom"! It doesn't say ideology! It is Wisdom that leads to Life--not ideology!

If someone has a spiritual sickness, you quarantine him! That is Wisdom. Traditional RC Culture taught and practiced that the Jew had to be in a sense "quarantined". If not, he poisons the society he lives in.


I want to go back to the pertinent quotes of Mr. Ambrams:

""...the Jewish mission to the world is liberation FROM bondage and freedom FROM slavery... for all mankind."

"And as Viktor Frankel, author of Doctor of The Soul, and survivor of Auschwitz observed, "there are only two types of people in the world, builders and plunderers."

""The Jewish mission and focus is predicated upon truth and a repair of this world..."


After each of the six days in Genesis that God created the whole Universe, the Cosmos, didn't God say, "It is GOOD!"?

Then what makes the Jews think it needs "repair" or "fixing"? Did NOT the Scripture say "IT IS GOOD"? Or do they NOT believe in their own holy books?

From 300 A.D., from the Edict of Milan to the French Revolution, what needed Fixing? Is this anywhere in Christian thought? Did Christians think the world needed fixing?

If God created races, what is the Jew fixing it for? Is the Jew greater than God? God doesn't know what he is doing?

Is the so-called Jewish Mission in conformity with Christendom? Or is the Jewish mission---The destruction of Christendom?

Is the Jewish Mission the re-writing of the Natural Law? Can the Jews rewrite the Natural Law?

If the Bible says, "Man shall cleave to his like", if the agarian saying is "Bird of a feather, flock together", if the natural law states that "Blood is thicker than water", does the Jew really think that he has POWER over the Natural Law? Does the Jew think he can rewrite Nature? If Nature is created by God, and God is good, doesn't this put the Jew at odds with God?

When Jesus put out the prayer, there is this part:
"Thy Will be done".
Is it the Will of God that race be destroyed? That the Natural Law----which comes from God---be overthrown? What is the duty of the Christian? Is the duty of a Christian to God---Or to helping the Jew de-racinate and fix the World according to the Jew?

Who is superior? The Christian who has the complete Truth? The Christian who is guided by the Grace and the Holy Spirit? Or is it the Jew who is accursed, who sees ONLY the Backside of God, who, in the Scripture's words, "Blinded and astounded"?

One can only see the arrogance in that man's words. The Cosmos is NOT the problem--but Man is the problem. How can something that is Accursed, blinded and astounded see truth?

Is this not the case of the Blind leading the Blind? Should the Blind lead?

So Mr. Ambrams is a "builder". What is he a builder of? I thought God is the Builder. Jesus is the Builder of the Church. Jesus built the Church---What more needs to be done? What? Jesus and what He did is not good enough for the Jew? Jesus is NOT smart enough? If the whole cosmos was created thru Jesus, the Logos, and Race is part and parcel of the Cosmos, why is the Jew deconstructing race for? Why must man be de-racinated? Jesus made an error?

Everything about the Jew smacks of hatred. Hatred of Jesus Christ. Hatred of the Church. Hatred of Reality, Hatred of race. Everywhere he goes, he does nothing but destroy.


The University of Delaware has just initiated a diversity program for all its students in its residence halls. It is Mandatory. The Students must be trained in "Right Thought" about race, environment, etc. The Hall monitors do the classes to the students and the results are then sent to the School administration. You are told what is the politically correct thing to say and think.

"The school requires its approximately 7,000 residence hall students "to adopt highly specific university-approved views on issues ranging from politics to race, sexuality, sociology, moral philosophy and environmentalism."

Here is another:

""Students will recognize the benefits of dismantling systems of oppression,"

Now match this quote from one quote from Mr. Ambrams:
"""...the Jewish mission to the world is liberation FROM bondage and freedom FROM slavery... for all mankind."
Systems of Oppresion? Does that include the Male leadership over Women? Does that include Monarchy? Does that include that the Righteous shall rule over the ungodly?

This program by the University of Delaware is Communist! This program is Political Correctness and it is about teaching and enforcing Communist ideology--Which in turn is the Jewish mission of "Fixing the world". This is how THEY intend to Fix the world!

But this is not just at the University of Delaware--This program is more subtly done on every college campus in America.

College is NOT about education but Re-education, more like Political Indoctrination! This is what College has become. You don't go there for an education, you go there to get "changed" by the Marxist Faculty in order to prepare you for the NWO.

The rest of the article is here: University to students: 'All whites are racist'
Mandatory program 'treats' politically incorrect attitudes


And the other: University defends teaching students all whites 'racist'


Here in Battle Creek, Michigan, we have the Kellogg cereal Headquarters and the Kellogg Foundation. Well, the Kellogg Foundation, supported and maintained by the Kellogg Cereal Corporation, funds THE CENTER FOR THE HEALING OF RACISM to the tune of $900,000 a year. With that money, Dizzy Warren, a Negress in Albion, gets a nice salary and has access to every school in Calhoun county to preach communism.

They don't debate.

They have where each school and college is personnel trained by them to monitor and push this agenda. It is Political Correctness indoctrination. The Kellogg Company supports it. A Member of the Kellog Company sits on this "non-profit" board of trustees.

The purpose of this organization is to push de-racination. Not only do they have access to every school in Calhoun county, the local Episcopalian church has funded luncheons for them as well. Dizzy Warren doesn't debate, but they have the floor and tell people all sorts of things---that can't be questioned!

This the Kellogg Company.

"Kellogg Foundation Grant Helps With The National Resource Center for the Healing of Racism"

"We provide all people involved in the process of healing the disease of racism, and upholding the oneness of humankind, with the tools and resources to support and enhance their work."


Corporations of all kinds, Schools and Universities, and Churches of all Stripes participate in this Communist agenda. It is ubiquitous.

I don't buy Kellogg products for Kellogg like the Ford Company sponsor the Communist agenda.

Here is the agenda. Notice the word "oneness". Where else does word 'One' appear?
"The unique perspective of the NRCHR centers on the oneness of the human family. This perspective is the next phase in removing barriers among people."
What is Oppresive? Barriers are oppresive! What is bigotry? Bigotry is when some barrier has been crossed. It is about keeping the tribal barriers. Here, they tell you--We are breaking down barriers. Barriers are eeevillll. It is all the communist agenda.


Here is the link to the Dizzy Warren and her cushy liberal job of sitting at a desk collecting money for pushing communist ideas: Calhoun County Center for the Healing of Racism. Notice to the left sidebar, where you can see a Kellogg representative and a Public School Administer sits on the board.

School is NOT for eduction---but for Indoctrination!


Books to read about the NWO and Communism:

The Unseen Hand, An Introduction to the Conspiratorial View of History, by Ralph Epperson (1985)

Valley of Decision, Dr. Sterling Lacy, DaySpring Productions. (1988){Christian perspective}

The Death of a Nation, John A. Stormer, (1968)

None Dare Call It Conspiracy, Gary Allen, (1971)

None Dare Call It Treason...25 Years Later, John A. Stormer, (1990)

These are just some of the books about the shennanigans going on in America.


Even the New Vatican II Roman Catholic Church is in on the agenda.

Go to any Roman Catholic Forum/Message board and say Race is Important--and see how quick they ban you. I have been banned from 5-6 RC message boards for my so-called "racist" posts. When the Bible says, "Speak the Truth at all times", "speaking the truth" is NOT allowed on Catholic Websites!

What guides Roman Catholicism today is Cultural Marxism.

When reading the book, The Keys of This Blood, by Malachi Martin, a Jesuit Priest, I was flabbergasted at his knowledge about the coming New World Order. And it seems that the Vatican itself thinks that this is a good thing and that the Pope JonPaul II sought to control the beast.

That instead of preaching against it, the Vatican and the vast amount of the clergy is about the New World Order. This is the subtitle of that book:

"Pope John Paul II Versus Russia and the West for Control of the New World Order"


Here are some quotes from it:

"...the new world order, the world of the Grand Design of the nations. And as Helmut Kohl stated soundly, the """new""" European must have as its goal the grand vision oexpressed by Thomas Jefferson: "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". (emphasis added) pg 649

Thomas Jefferson was a Humanist, a creature of the Enlightenment; a man who was for "primitive Christianity" that denied the Trinity. Again, the word "liberty" reappears; liberty as liberty from all duty to law and tribe, liberty from God, liberty from the Old Order, liberty from the Natural law.
"A second and necessary one is the integration of the former East European Soviet satellites into that Europe. They must become working parts of the new "European economic space", part and parcel of the "new European architecture". pg 646
This book, Keys of This Blood was written in 1990. This new European economic space is called the "European Union". Just like the North American Trade Union is a "new American economic space" for North America by combining Canada, America, and Mexico into ONE trading bloc.

It is about dividing the world into Economic spheres, destroying countries and nationalities. This is the New design. Not Race but economics.
"Representatives and spokesmen for the most potent globalist currents---some 1,350 captains of industry, finance, politics, government, the media and telecommunications---trekked up 4,400 feet avove sea leel to the Swiss winter resort of Davos, the "Magic Mountain" of Thomans Mann's masterpiece, there to participate in the annual congress of the World Economic Forum." pg 642
All things are being directed to the establishment of a New World Order. That New World Order is about deconstructing the Old Order. Race and its mechanisms of Belonging and volkenhass, and racialism are all being deconstructed in order to prepare for the New World Order. JK Rowling plays a significant part by laying out the New Morality, the Communist ideology, the Jewish agenda, of anti-bigotry. Get people to race-mix, and no one has any loyalty, everyone is an individual, and that individual a prey with no group to protect him.


More of the sellout by Roman Catholics hierarchy is this post by Tiberge at Galliawatch that sites the presence of "COMECE".

What is COMECE?

"COMECE stands for (in Latin) Commissio Episcopatuum Europensis, or the Commission of the Bishops' Conferences of the European Community.


And what stands out? They ARE FOR the European Union. The European Union is about submerging all the national and racial units of Europe into one Trading Bloc called The European Union. All national sovereignty is going to be extinguished.

This is what this official Roman Catholic office celebrates:
"This should lead to a Union characterized by more Justice and Solidarity and an enhanced Responsibility for major global challenges."
Note the Cultural Marxist terms in this one sentence: "Justice" which means "social justice" and "Solidarity".

In old Roman Catholic education and seminaries, there was a theme running in much of the curriculum, that of the Natural Order and its prodigy the Natural Law. That the old Traditional Roman Catholic Church upheld both Divine Revelation AND the Natural Order. The Natural Order, or the Old Order, was part of Catholic teaching, mentality and consciousness.

The whole program of the Natural Order, has been ditched overboard; forgotten and obscured. All is changed. There is NO more mention, or defense of the Natural Order.

The rest of the article on Galliwatch about COMECE

It is obvious that we are faced with a large conspiracy, so huge, infiltrating everywhere. The Church is not safe, the schools and colleges are not safe, the halls of politics are not safe. Everywhere there is Cultural Marxism--the culture for the New World Order.


Please notice the similarities between:

"United States"

"United Nations"

"European Union"

What do they all have in common?

The word "United" or its variation "Union".

What was the Communist project in once Orthodox Russia called?

The USSR.

What does the USSR stand for?

The "UNION of Soviet Socialist Republics". The word "UNION" again.

America is the focal point. It was the first country to call itself a "united", as a creedal country. It got rid of its king. The American revolution influenced the French Revolution. Both created psuedo-republics. Both championed the "Seperation of Church and State". The French Revolution sponsored the 1848 Socialist revolutions with Karl Marx writing the Communist Manifesto. And the French Revolution gave birth to Socialism, Communism, International Socialism and Fascism, National Socialism.

What was one thing that the French Revolution did inside of France?

It UNIONIZED all the French into ONE body! It destroyed the provinces and their unique character, language and customs. All things revolved around Paris and the revolution! Under Kings, and feudalism, each province had its peculiar culture, French dialect, and customs. Under the egalitarian and CENTRALIZING effects---all particularism within France was abolished.

This movement of "union" is a powerful device to stifle and abolish "particularism". Is this what the American Civil War was about? The ending of Southern particularism? The "Union" had to be maintained!!

The United Nations constitution is based on the constitution of the USSR. Under the "United Nations" there are going to be regions of Unions--all regional districts, of capitalist units. The European Union, the North-American Free Trade Agreement, there is an Asian counterpart as well.

"The North American currency union is a proposal in which the three principal countries of North America, namely Canada, the United States and Mexico, would share a common currency. This idea is based on the common European Union currency, the euro. There are also related proposals for a single currency for all of the Americas. The hypothetical currency for both of these ideas is sometimes referred to as the Amero.


There is an Economic parallel, a cultural parallel, a political parallel. America, the Unites States, is the First invention of this thought process and paradigm. America is the fledging "New World Order". And its title of "United" gives it away.


All the countries of the Old world are named for their ethnicity. But with the advent of the New World, North and South America, Australia and New Zealand, the paradigm shifts. America is the first. It is the first IDEOLOGICAL country. America is the full --Except America. It is the full consumation of the Enlightenment. It is the total break with the Past--with the Old Order. It is the New Order, a country based on Creed not on blood.

Nature is based on harmony. Harmony is at the basis of the Law of Thermodynamics.

If there is NO particularism at the basic level---there is NO particularism in the succeeding levels. If there is no particularism allowed within a country---no particularism is allowed amongst countries. Particularism is what is evil and particularism as evil is behind the blood purity motiff of the Harry Potter series.

It is the age old problem of the Greek city states of Synoecism that ended dual nature of the Greek city states and combined all together to produce democracy.

There is a connection between democracy, socialism, synoecism and United/Union. Synoecism in the old Greek city-states ended the aristocratical/priestly caste that abided in the original Polis and combined all. It ended the distinctions of the ancient Greek polis. The French Revolution was in a sense a Synoecism.

This European Union is a Synoecism. NAFTA is a Synoecism. All things are now directed toward Synoecism. Bigotry and racism is what upholds particularism, what the ancient Greeks called "dioikismos".

"Houston, we have a problem".

There is something sinister in all this. Everything is tending toward Synoecism--the recreation of the Tower of Babel. The Tower of Babel is the culmination of synoecism.


You can't have a philosophy free school---unless it is only about mathematics---but then the mathematics teacher has opinions.

This has something the "freedom warriors" and libertarians miss---Something is always mandatory! Always.

The Principle of nature is "Nature abhors a vacuum".

You can't have a "value-free" school---that is a non-reality. There is NO Seperation of Church and State! That is an impossiblity. If it isn't Church and State-----IT IS IDEOLOGY AND STATE. When there is NO religion, then Nature ordains that ideology must rule and rule it does!

All of you are morons that think there can be a value free institution. There is NO such thing. Even in Communist Russia, there was a connection between Ideology and State.

Just as a person is soul and body, the state, which is made up of human beings, has also Soul and body.

The whole, i.e. the State, Is no different from the parts. Can a man be seperated from his soul? That is called death.

So then a state can NOT be seperated from a dominant religion/ideology.

Something WILL Rule. Either it is religion or it will be ideology. Either way Something will rise to ascendancy and that something will mandate its premises upon all else.

Religion and ideology give value to this or that. It is fundamental to the human psyche to have a value system; something is judged good or something is judged evil, either way there is a value system.

Since the American and French revolutions kicked out the Roman Catholic Church---you are left with ideology. Ideology as can be seen in the University of Delaware case of mandatory diversity training will be dominant. It is their culture and their rules.

This was a test to see if they could get away with an open program. Don't worry, this hasn't gone away--it just went underground--another twenty years and this Delaware program will be universal and mandatory. There will be ideological purity----There won't be blood purity---there will be ideological purity.

The example of the University of Delaware should be obvious to all---There is NO such thing as Seperation of Church and State. And for you Prots out there---Protestantism always degenerates into Liberalism.


The Neturei Karta is a small ultra-orthodox Jewish sect. They are actually have the Old Jewish mindset in being anti-zionist. They teach, like the pre-war WWII Jews, that there can not be any return to the homeland.

But they say something else a little more significant---missed by many:

One provision of the pact was (1) that the Jews would not rebel against the non-Jewish world that gave them sanctuary; a second was (2) that they would not immigrate en masse to the Land of Israel. In return, the legend states, the (3) gentile nations promised not to persecute the Jews too harshly.[4] By rebelling against this pact, they argued, the Jewish People were engaging in open rebellion against God.

Jewish presence in the creation of communism, the Jewish acts of assinating kings and aristocracy, the Jewish presence in European Media and in the halls of legislation, their meddling in the government of Britain and elsewhere, their attempt to "fix the world", is breaking the first commandment of this legend, i.e. "that the Jews would not rebel against the non-Jewish world that gave them sanctuary".

What are the Jews doing?---They are doing something more than just rebelling---they are deconstructing the Gentile/European Christian world. They sought and got control over our whole media. They rule in our countries. They are determental to our societies! They are imposing Tikkun Olam upon us.

I ask when has the Jew EVER EVER EVER been obedient to God? When? These people can't obey in the Old Testament, they can't obey this legend, they can't obey the Natural Order, they can't obey anything that God says and they don't listen/obey what is in their own holy book! What does it say in Chapter 28? That God WILL hound you throughout history!?! Is God Anti-semitic?

I tell you what, as the Jews are "blinded and astounded", they can't see anything right. They can not percieve the truth. After the Jews rebelled in Russia and destroyed a Christian nation, that killed millions of people---What do you think God's reaction is? You just destroyed God's handiwork and what should be your just rewards?

This whole Jewish agenda is about getting rid of race/nation/ethnicity/tribe, What should be the reward? Is God sitting in heaven, going good show? No. What the Jew reads as "anti-semitism" throughout history, the Curses of Chapter 28 coming alive. If there is any prove of the validity of Scripture, is that the curses in Chapter 28 have come to pass to a 'T'! That the Jew is "blinded and astounded" to this truth is an obvious fact.

The Jews are NOT supposed to be disturbing, undermining, betraying the nations that they live in! Their reason for the Holocaust is a "Materialist" reason---due to ethnic purity! These people are so blinded and astounded that it is amazing--they don't see that they crapped in their own bed, i.e. their creation of communism, i.e. their Tikkun Olam, that they are their own worst nightmare.

The Holocaust is NOT because of the racial purity of the Germans and the program of Adolf Hitler---the Holocaust was because, of Spiritual Reasons, that the Jew was desconstructing Christendom thru communism!---meddling in European affairs.

And now their efforts are bringing about not "Tikkun Olam", fixing the world, but the destruction of the world; the destruction of the Natural Order, the deformation of man, bringing man into total slavery to the devil---in which they don't have any belief in either! The Jews are in rebellion, why Prots and Catholics are in kissy-kissy mood with a bunch of rebellious people, is because they been hoodwinked into the "tolerance" "anti-bigotry", "fixing the world" message of the Jews. Because the Jews view the Holocaust as NOT their fault but the fault of the Gentiles---they use the Holocaust to beat guilt into Us Europeans, in order to control us and they do control the weak, pusillainious, effeminate amongst us. They control the Media, so only their message gets out! Their warped and corrupted view of things.

What they are bringing is Hell on earth.


Consider these Sept. 25, 1945, observations from Tom Dodd, who would emerge as second in command on the American prosecution team:

“You know how I have despised anti-Semitism. You know how strongly I feel toward those who preach intolerance of any kind. With that knowledge — you will understand when I tell you that this staff is about seventy-five percent Jewish. Now my point is that the Jews should stay away from this trial — for their own sake. For — mark this well — the charge ‘a war for the Jews’ is still being made and in the post-war years it will be made again and again. The too large percentage of Jewish men and women here will be cited as proof of this charge. Sometimes it seems that the Jews will never learn about these things. They seem intent on bringing new difficulties down on their own heads. I do not like to write about this matter —it is distasteful to me — but I am disturbed about it. They are pushing and crowding and competing with each other and with everyone else.”

75% of his staff was Jewish.

Even during WWII, WWII was known as a "War for the Jews".
Isn't the Iraqi War, a War for the Jews?

Isn't this coming Iran War, a War for the Jews?


I mean doesn't this get all a little silly.

"They seem intent on bringing new difficulties down on their own heads." They are suicidal. Was not Lucifer suicidal? Was not Judas suicidal? Did not the USSR commit suicide? Is not evil suicidal? It is against itself--it is self-contradictory?

Will they ever learn? No.

The above quote comes from a book from Chris Todd about his father Tom Todd. The link: http://www.projo.com/news/ mcharl...0C.1efbfe6.html


"Sometimes it seems that the Jews will never learn about these things. They seem intent on bringing new difficulties down on their own heads.


Remember the story of Jesus with the possessed man in the Geresene territory, how Jesus ordered the "Legion" out and entered the swine and the herd rushed into the sea?

Isn't this a picture of all demonic possession and demonic leadership? It leads to suicide. All evil commits hari-kari. God doesn't have to do anything---they do it to themselves. The Jews, since they rejected Christ, have accepted the devil and this is what pushes them on in their suicidal behavior.


And since they have free reign, they are not quarantined, their suicidal drive is passed into the former post Christendom countries--evidence, the coming Eurabia, NAFTA, etc etc.


Let me illustrate the two laws; purity in logic and Gresham's law in one example.

In logic, in an argument, every premise MUST be true, in order that the conclusion of the argument is true.

'T' stands for True premise.
'F' stands for False premise.

T+T+T=T

Now, F+F+F+F=F

Now, what happens when it is mixed?

T+T+F+T=F

No matter how many true premises there are, one false premise, makes the whole argument false!

To arrive at truth requires Purity; all premises of an argument must be true. There must be purity in logic.

It is also true in Gresham's law that "Bad drives out good". One false premise in a sea of true premises--makes the whole false! One false premise drives truth out of the whole argument.

Truth requires Purity. No purity in the premises in regards to their "faithful representation"--no truth in the conclusion.

Logic requires purity. The same goes for mathematical equations. There can be no error in mathematical equations---every step in the equation must be pure.


About schools being indoctrination centers. Here is a quote from a Dr. William Pierce of Harvard University, when he addressed 2,000 teachers in Denver, Colorado in 1987:

"Every child in America who enters school at the age of five is mentally ill, because he comes to school with an allegiance toward our elected officials, toward our Founding Fathers, toward our institutions, toward the preservation of this form of government... All of this proves the children are sick, because the truly well individual is one who has rejected all of those things and is what I would call the true international child of the future." [Source: Target: America's Children]

The author of this book by Phoebe Courtney (c) 1989 says "Through new guidance programs, school-based health clinics, and experimental teaching and testing methods, the schools are acting as mental-health centers preparing children for citizenship in a new world order, a 'global society.'" (This book was once available at a cost of $4.25 from The Independent American, P.O. Box 636, Littleton, Colorado 80160.)


This is the mentality that is being taught to educators who in turn teach your children. It is about indoctrination into the NWO. Furthermore, in a conference hall with 2000 teachers, not several or one person stood up and booed this statement of Dr. Pierce? Why no coverage of this by the MSM?

The rest of the article talks about former Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukosvky who spent 12 years in the gulag including a stint in the "psihuska" (psychiatric prison).

Why you might ask?

"the regime 'figured that it was impossible for people in a socialist society to have an anti-socialist consciousness.'


What do racists and bigots have?

They have a "anti-socialist consciousness"! Ideological purity will be demanded. Vladimir Bukosvky and others suffered greatly at the hands of Soviet authorities.

The author of this article is Betty Freauf and her article is here: WHY ALL THE HOMO HYPE?


The US House of Representatives have passed on October 23, 2007, H.R. 1955, titled "The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007." Section 899A of the bill defines "violent radicalization" as "the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change."

What I have talked about in this thread has now crossed that line above. I am now an enemy of the Communist States of America. I am an enemy of the North American Union. "An extremist belief system", the Old Order, Monarchy is now an "extremist belief system". What was normal before the American and French revolution is now a crime in modern day America.

To return to the Old Order is an extremist position to a communist. Pro-life agitation is an extremist position. A Christian tent revival may even be considered an "extremist belief system".

The rest of the article is here: America's New Religion


Dr. Makow has given me more inspiration. (He confesses that he was once an "Illumaniti Jew" but the man has got his head screwed on tight.)

"Our identity is based on gender. An attack on gender is an attack on identity. We develop our identity in terms of our family roles as husbands and fathers, wives and mothers, sisters and brothers."(From his article "The biggest mistake men make")

What is going on is really an across the board attack on IDENTITY!

Other than gender-----WHAT ELSE GIVES IDENTITY?

Race does!

Gender and racial identity are ALL under assault! Why is that? Because one's allegiance is to your gender, your race!--not to ideology!

Let's reconfigure that idea of Dr. Makow's.
"Our identity is based on race. An attack on race is an attack on identity. We develop our identity in terms of our ethnicity."


To de-racinate is attack identity. It is about deconstructing identity as a whole. Both the particularism of gender and race are under assault. Is it not pyschologically harmfull for people to lose their identity? And where is the Church in this? The assault upon identity harms people! Why any good orthodox Christian would participate in the communist ideology of de-racination and de-genderizing is beyond me!

The losing of identity severly deforms man. Man NEEDS a specific gender identification and NEEDS a specific racial identitification! For his health, morally, spiritually and physically!

Identity gives direction! Identity gives purpose! Identity gives meaning! How many people do destructive things to themselves without meaning in their lives? Tons!!! Maybe this is why identity of human beings is under assault--to purposely harm man!

Dr. Makow's fabulous article is here: The Biggest Mistake Men Make.


Lately, in this thread, it has been pointed out one of the programs of Cultural Marxism--the deracination of people by destroying the mechanisms that keep race together and particularism.

There is another plank of Cultural Marxism:

"The Communist Rules for Revolution was captured in Dusseldorf, Germany, in May 1919 by the Allied Forces. In part it states: "(A) Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness."

The last sentence is the most important--"Make them superficial, destroy ruggedness This is the key here. What does it mean to be "superficial"? In means Vanity. You can see this with all this celebrity worship with Paris Hilton and Britney Spears and with goings on with the British Royal family, i.e. Dianne.

But the last is really important--"Destroy Ruggedness". What is ruggedness? It is Manliness.

What is Peace necessary for? Peace ennervates. Peace destroys ruggedness, the need for it. Destroy ruggedness---you destroy the ability to fight. What produces ruggedness?

Agrarianism.

This is why in the last 100 years, inflation is important to driving people of the land and into cities---urbanize them---effeminize them.

Increase Vanity and destroying ruggedness is also another plank in Cultural Marxism.


I want to go back to this point by Dr. Makow:

""Our identity is based on gender. An attack on gender is an attack on identity. We develop our identity in terms of our family roles as husbands and fathers, wives and mothers, sisters and brothers."(From his article "The biggest mistake men make")

What is the game plan of this conspiracy?

To end particularism.

What is another plank of Cultural Marxism?

IT IS UNISEXISM!

What does Unisexism teach? That men and women are the same, dress the same, have the same jobs!

What did the German classicist Karl Otfried Muller say about democracy?

""A democracy likes a large mass and hates all divisions."


"Hates all divisions". What does Unisexism do? It ends divisions by gender!

What is Unisexism?

Why it is Synoecism! It is synoecism of the classes or the castes but of the genders. Unisexism is synoecism.

Under the Old Order, women wore different clothes, could only do certain jobs, did NOT vote, were NOT in the military, and were taught a woman's virtue of being submissive.

Under the New Order, women are identical with men. Women are masculinized, women were men's clothing, women are encourged to take up masculine jobs, women vote, women hold leadership positions, women in the military, women taught to be "pushy".

This is all Unisexism. Unisexism is the Progessive, Leftist, democratic hence Cultural Marxist plank.

It is about ending particularism of gender. Unisex is about CONFUSING the genders---there is NO identity!

Just like how God differentiated male and female physically---one w/breasts and the other with facial hair, (See God creates particularism, God creates distinctions of rank), the material and societal accompaniments MUST ALSO be different. All these differences---GIVE IDENTITY.

All of this, the Old Order, is being deconstructed.

What does democracy Hate?

It hates division. It hates particularism. Democracy preaches synoecism in everything.

What does facial hair on a man represent?

His DISTINCTION OF RANK as a Male!

That is what is hated--Distinction of Rank! One is different from the other---One is superior to the other!


A correspondent of mine points out the "Death wish" that homosexuals have! A while back it was reported that the homosexuals in San Fran were going back to the bath house sex routine? Why many asked?

It is a subliminal death wish!

To de-racinate, to de-genderize, is a "death wish".

Look at what our politicos are doing in America and in Europe with increased immigration to the deterimint of their own people---it is a death wish.

When you choose to go away from God---it is a Death wish! Death always follows atheism! Death and Atheism go together.

Any program based on "Ideology", i.e. socialism, communism, social democracy, fascism, all are death wishes. All Our modern States have SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Just like Atheism for the Individual is death---Seperation of Church and State is a type of Atheism for the State----AND OF COURSE THE THE STATE DIES. It is again the principle of microcosm/macrocosm. If atheism is death for the individual, and if the paradigm of the death wish is inherent in this choice----Then it is also true for the state!!!! This is why all modern states die! This is the Novus Ordo! Seperation of Church and State--is like an individual choosing Atheism. All these modern states that have "Seperation of Church and State", have in a sense Atheism, and hence a Death Wish. What we see now in America and in Europe---IS the Death Wish becoming manifest!

This is why Islam is strong---and Europe is weak!


I want to revisit this statement by Dr. Makow:

"Our identity is based on gender. An attack on gender is an attack on identity. We develop our identity in terms of our family roles as husbands and fathers, wives and mothers, sisters and brothers."(From his article "The biggest mistake men make")

Now, I took his concept and reformulated to say:
"Our identity is based on race. An attack on race is an attack on identity. We develop our identity in terms of our ethnicity."


This " We develop our identity in terms of our ethnicity", needs a little re-write. We develop our identity in terms to our patriarch, our ethnic customs and traditions. We develop our racial identity thru the communal history of our respective tribes.

Our personhood can only reach its fullfillment within our tribe. As we "play" our role in gender, we also "play" our role in ethnicity.
It is forefathers, relatives, customs and traditions that form identity.

Race/tribe/ethnicity/nation are very very important to the makeup of a man!


I am not against different races living together in a country.

Let's look at medieval Jerusalem. It had Four quarters; the Muslim quarter, the Jewish quarter, the Armenian quarter, and a Latin quarter.

Jerusalem was one city yet divided into four quarters, each staying to themselves, and thus preserving their unique culture.

One One level, there must be a level (a right proportion) of ethnic purity within a tribe/race and in a country One race is dominant with minorities that also stay within themselves.

The European mind has always developed the caste system; which is the product of the European thought of "Define and divide". This is European modality.
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Take also the traditional British military makeup.

Ghurkas fight in their own regiments. The Scots, Irish, Welsh also fight in their own regiments. Irish in a Irish regiment, Scots in a Scots regiment and Welsh in their own Welsh regiment. Even the English divided their own by their districts, for instance Lincolnshires fought in their own regiment.

This is traditional European modality. Military units are NOT to be racially mixed. You fight with your brother.

This is all of the Old Order! This is organic and natural.

See, one must be SOPHISTICATED. All this simple minded thinking going on is so dangerous. Life is complex yet simple. At the basic level all things are simple--yet there is a complexity amongst the simplicity.

Racial purity to a degree within a tribe but in a country there is a multiplicity of tribes. Each to his own.


It is all about Hierarchy.

What is democracy against?

Hierarchy.

What is modern republicanism against (that definition of "any government without a king")?

Royalty, aristocracy.

What does Royalty and aristocracy represent? Hierarchy.

What does Hierarchy presuppose?

Something is ranked higher than another. See, this is INHERENT in the term hierarchy.

There is Hierarchy in gender! The Male is OVER the female---Hierarchy. Everything is in Hierarchy. This is the Natural Law.

And who created this? God did.

And why did the Devil attack the humans in the Garden of Eden?

Because the Devil coveted. Read the book of Wisdom in the Septuagint. Why? The devil COVETED the PLACE of Man in God's creation. Man is superior in a sense to Angel! Angels are pure spiritual beings while Man is half material and half spiritual (Just like Jesus is!) Man is superior to Angel in that we shall rule over Angels. This is what Lucifer hated.

Democracy, synoecism, is about erasing hierarchy. Hierarchy is inherent in Order, Structure, being. Without hierarchy, in Disraeli's term, Predominance, there is NO order, no structure.

Lucifer is about spreading his rebellion---his gospel of democracy---his plan for mankind. And those that HATE God---pick up this message and act on this DOS program.

See God's hierarchy is Oppresive, unfair, you have NO choice.

The Lucifer plan is that YOU HAVE A CHOICE, but only you can have this choice IF you live in a democracy. Democracy nullifies all of what God did.

And at the heart of democracy is Nihilism. Nihilism is self-destructive. That is why nihilists like this Finland guy and the Colorado school shootings done by nihilists, atheists. Nihilism self-destructs.

America and Europe is Nihilist, and so self-destructs. Rebellion against the Old Order is called Nihilism. And Nihilism brings destruction.

America delenda est.

Return back to the Old Order.


Let's put two and two together.

Nihilism is self-destructive. Nihilism is a rejection of truth and wisdom. Nihilism deconstructs the Old Order.

The Jews are nihilists. That is why they are deconstructionists. And their self-destructive behavior is a sign of their nihilism. They don't believe in Truth. Jesus Christ said, "I am the Way, THE TRUTH, and the Life". Well, if Jesus the Truth is rejected, then one is a nihilist.

Furthermore, it is thru Jesus the Logos that the world was created. The Jew and the fundamentalist Protestants, (who are influenced by the Jews, i.e. "sola scriptura") reject philosophy, especially Greek philosophy. When they do so, they reject Reality. They hate reality, and that is why they seek to change it!!! They are """"fixing the world""""". This is nihilism.

When the Bible says they are "Blinded and astounded", the Jew thinks he is doing good, but really the Jew is destructive. The Jew is a nihilist.

Connect this with Jacques Derrida, the Father of Deconstructionism, a Jew. The tearing down of barriers. That is nihilism!

Gregory Vlastos, a Greek Classical scholar and Platonist, talks of the Socrates fighting the moral nihilism of the Athenians. What type of government did Athens have?

A democracy.

Nihilism and democracy go hand in hand! What is synonymous with democracy? Socialism. The program of communism (all socialism) is Nihilism!

Nihilism is the hatred of Truth.

And what is Truth?

"A faithful representation of reality". Is not race a part of reality? To reject race is nihilism because it is NOT a faithful representation of reality.

The Catholic definition of the Natural Law is that Scripture ONLY backs up the Natural Law! The Natural Law came first and all Scripture does is back it up.


On another Haloscan, someone mentioned the scandal of "Tintin" a Belgian cartoon. In its earlier days, it did have caricatures of other races.

"Tintin in the Congo has been criticised as presenting the Africans as naïve and primitive."

"Some of the early albums were altered by Hergé in subsequent editions, usually at the demand of publishers. For example, at the instigation of his American publishers, many of the black characters in Tintin in America were re-coloured to make their race white or ambiguous:

The Shooting Star album originally had an American villain with the Jewish surname of Mr. Blumenstein. This proved to be controversial, as the character looked very stereotypically Jewish. Blumenstein was changed to an American with a less ethnically specific name, Mr. Bohlwinkel, in later editions and subsequently to a South American of a fictional country - São Rico. Hergé later discovered that 'Bohlwinkel' was also a Jewish name."

What is Identity? If you identify something---you automatically differentiate it from something else---and a judgement is made! Is not the world full of dichotomies? Cold/Hot, Male/Female, etc. We can't know the positive unless we know the negative? That meaning is only given in context with its opposite?

Is this the inherent evilness of Identity? That Identity itself is evil because it makes differences?

Is this why Identity is being destroyed----because it creates the Other?

When Dr. Makow mourns the loss of identity of gender, is he not pointing to a deeper meaning, the end of contrast. What does the identity of race do? It breeds contrast.

This is what is evil. Identity is under attack because it breeds contrast! Can't have contrast---for it might bring unsavory realizations!

Identity is very powerful. Identity only comes with differentiation! You can't have identity WITHOUT differentiation. What the Jew seeks is to disappear--there is NO such thing as race---therefore, the Jew will NOT be differentiated---therefore the Jew is safe! No Identity---No differentiation. This is the essence of the problem.

And where is the Christian Church?

---being led by the nose ring by the Jew. The Church is actually participating in this program! It is facilitating it! The Gates of Hell are prevailing in the Church! That the Church is snookered in this regard is only a huge compliment to the success of political correctness, of cultural marxism.


Identity and differentiation go together. This is what is evil. This is what is being destroyed!

What is Race?

Race is Identity!

Race differentiates!

All this must be destroyed!

This is what Cultural Marxism does.


The principle is

"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction"


This is a law of physics.

This also happens in human affairs.

David A. Bell wrote a book about this paradigm, (though he doesn't recognize it himself), The First >b>Total War, Napoleon's Europe and the Birth of Warfare as We Know It. (Houghton Mifflin Company, NY, 2007.
Retrieved from "http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org/index.php/ Life_is_War)


How and why did Total War come about?

Because the revolutionaries taught that Peace was Absolute. Peace was imperative and the Peace was everything. Disturb Peace---and war breaks out.

Where did this idea originate from, this idea of "total peace"? I surmise from the Kabbala and from the Hebrew Scriptures, i.e. Isaiah. The book Elements of Socialism quotes the verse from Isaiah about beating swords into plowshares. This is the Tikkun Olam.

There must be Total Peace. Well, if there is to be total Peace, Then there must be Total War. Prof. Bell's thesis that the creation of total war was A REACTION to the sentiment of Absolute Peace. Beforehand, wars were small, numerous, aristocratic. With Peace the overarching worldview, Total War becomes inevitiable. World War I has a "War to End all Wars".

How stupid.

Nature is not fooled. There WILL BE harmony. Man goes to an extreme--and Nature will come back. This paradigm can be seen in Communism(International Socialism)/Fascism (National Socialism).

"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". Nature will always have its harmony.


"Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness."

What else is the significance of this destroying ruggedness?

Destroy ruggedness, and you turn them into slaves! What is the opposite of ruggedness? Effeminacy.

What is going on is the inculturalisation of effeminacy, the slave-making process. This is cultural Marxism.


Here we have discussed the destruction of the Bavarian Monarchy of the Wittlesbach dynasty that lasted 700 years. Kurt Eisner, a Jew and a Communist, took over the government and established the Bavarian Soviet Republic.

"Kun was born in Szilágycseh, Transylvania, Austria-Hungary (today Cehu Silvaniei, Romania). Kun's father, a village notary, was a lapsed Jew, and his mother a lapsed Protestant. Béla Magyarized his birth surname, Kohn, to Kun in 1906. Although Kun was hostile to all forms of religion, his Jewish roots and advocacy of revolutionary communism resulted in hatred for him - and other Hungarian Jews - who were viewed as accomplices in the anti-Christian atrocities that followed his accession to power. Despite his secular upbringing, he was educated at a famous Reformed kollegium (grammar school) in the city of Kolozsvár (modern Cluj-Napoca, Romania). fr Wikipedia on Bela Kun

The Habsburg monarchy was also destroyed at WWI. Who ascended the power structure at the fall of the Habsburgs in Hungary? A Jewish Communist Bela Kun. Here we have the ascendance of Jewish communists in three different countries at the End of WWI

Trotsky

Eisner

Kun (formerly Kohn)

Who gave the political inspiration, and ideology for Communism?

Karl Marx the Jew.

The monarchy disappears---and Jews step into power.

We have the Holocaust museum in America.

Where is the Museum of the countless Christian Victims of Jewish Communism for Russia, Spain, Hungary, Germany and elsewhere? Where is our Museum?
Why don't we have a museum?


On Bela Kun:

"This was a bad time to be associated with Trotsky, as Stalin did not support internationalism but rather wanted to focus on socialism within the Soviet Union. Kun was among the many thousands of international communists who were arrested by Stalin's orders during the great purges of 1936-1937.

What is Trotsky associated with? Internationalism. What was Bela Kun? a Trotskyite.

Do we see a pattern emerging.

This thread was started by JK Rowling was outing Dumbledore as gay. JK Rowling was influenced by a Communist Jessica Mitford. This is what Bela Kun (Kohn) had to say in an essay about a poet:
"The storming rage of Petőfi's soul… turned against the privileged classes, against the people's oppressor… and confronted them with revolutionary abandon. Petőfi felt that the country would not be saved through moderation, but through the use of the most extreme means available. He detested even the thought of cowardice… Petőfi's vision was correct. There is no room for prudence in revolutions whose fate and eventual success is always decided by boldness and raw courage… this is why Petőfi condemned his compatriots for the sin of opportunism and hesitation when faced with the great problems of their age… Petőfi's works must be regarded as the law of the Hungarian soul… and of the… love of the country"


What is Bela Kohn against? Priviledge and so-called "Oppressors". See this message picked up by JK Rowling, this communist agenda against priviledge and oppresors. What is an 'oppresor'? An 'oppresor' is simple 'the dominant one'!

Communist ideology is only the Jewish mentality. The Jewish ethos of persectuion and of victimhood thru ages of Roman Catholic Oppresion is immanatized and made real in Communism and in so much else. Jewish angst is made into a political ideology and movement by Karl Marx and others.

Communism is about destroying Roman Catholicism. It is about destroying Europe, oppresive Europe.

Notice the above quote by Kohn:
"that the country would not be saved through moderation, but through the use of the most extreme means available."


Notice the "not thru moderation" but the Monomanicalism of Bela Kohn. Extreme methods. Extreme.

A people who hate have been released upon the world, and it is their hate that is destroying. These people hate. And to let these people run lose, is the height of foolishness. These people have a burning hatred and it can not be quenched. And Protestant philosemites like John Hagee are the enablers of this hate and protect this hate.


From Wikipedia on the Holocaust article:

"Michael Berenbaum writes that Germany became a "genocidal nation."


I just mention a few:

Karl Marx

Trotsky

Bela Kohn (Kun)

Kurt Eisner

Rosa Luxemburg

Victor Adler

Ferdinand Lasalle

And hundreds of other Jewish conspirators in Jewish Communism that taught the "Ending of Race".

Germany a "genocidal nation" by the Jew Michael Berenbaum.

How about Jews--the Genocidal nation! The Bible records the Genocide of nations at the hand of the Hebrews. Weren't a whole bunch of races wiped out by the Jew, Amalec, Philistine, Cannite? It continues in modern Times--The Genocide of Races thru de-racination agenda, policies, ideologies of the Jew.

The Jews DO HAVE A RECORD of Genocide!

The Jew is dispersed amognst the Gentile nations as a PUNISHMENT and the Jew is NOT to Disturb the Christian lands.

Michael Berenbaum, you and your people have never been obedient to God. What is the punishment of disobedience? God punishes the wicked.


"Disraeli even believed that Jews everywhere were uniformly desirous of "revenge" against Christians, using absolutely contrasting ideologies -- capitalism and communism -- to the same end through parallel "internationalism." "Men of Jewish race," he wrote, "are found at the head of every one of [the communist and socialist groups]. The people of God cooperate with atheists; the most skilled accumulators of property ally themselves with communists, the peculiar and chosen people touch the hands of the scum and low castes of Europe! And all this because they wish to destroy the ungrateful Christendum which owes them even its name and whose tyranny they can no longer endure." [ARENDT, p. 76]
Centuries of oppression are not cured overnight. Vindictiveness is a strong emotion. And Vindictiveness is a very strong amongst the Jews. Notice the words "revenge upon Christendom". People have memories and it records Disraeli, himself a displaced Jew from Spain, on the returning revenge upon Christians, upon Christendom. The ending of Monarchy, the ending of the mechanisms that support race, is all about deconstructing Europe, Deconstructing Christianity and Deconstructing Christendom.

The Jews are a very vindictive people--very. I point you to the Samson Option, where if Israel is threatened with an attack that might obliterate her---she is launching nuclear attack, not only on her attacker---BUT ALSO on everybody else.

The creation and development of the Samson Option is indicative of the vindictiveness of the Jewish character. The existence of the Samson Option alone is a sign of a terrible evil mindset.

Benjamin Disraeli himself acknowledges that at the head of every communist/socialist organization is a Jew. The head of all the major capitalist institutions, Jews. And they work in concert to bring about "INTERNATIONALISM".

Jesus said, "The Sons of Darkness are MORE SHREWD than the sons of Light". How true. Christians are absolutely the dumbest things on earth sometimes. While the Christian thinks one thing, the Jew is thinking another.

You know you have got to ask yourself, After centuries of persecution, people with a revenge streak, are going to act like pussycats? What are you thinking? What are all these modernistic liberal churchmen thinking? That all is water under the bridge?

Capitalism under Free Trade and Communism both destroy, both bring it under parallel, to Internationalism.

The program of anti-racism, anti-bigotry, tolerance, diversity and multiculturalism are all social condtioning techniques that bring about Internationalism. This is cultural Marxism.

The above quote is lifted from the chapter Jewish Money and Economic Influence


A friend of mine emailed me an article called the "Beware The Ides of April: Cho Seung-hui and the Mosaic Distinction".

What is the Mosaic Distinction you ask?

"In mathematics there is something called the "first Law of Construction" posited by George Spencer Brown. It goes:

"Draw a distinction. Call it the first distinction. Call the space in which it is drawn the space severed or cloven by the distinction.

"It seems that this law applies as well to societies, cultures and religions. Cultural and intellectual distinctions or divisions are all about creating "meaning" and identity and orientation for the self. Unfortunately, trying to create meaning for the self that is artificial is really an act of creating conflict, intolerance and violence.

What we have read above is about the distinction between true and false in religion that is at the root of religious distinctions such as those between Jews and Gentiles, Christians and pagans, Muslims and infidels. Once the distinction has been drawn, once it has been declared that there IS such a division between peoples, then it becomes easier and easier to make more and more distinctions, subdivisions of them, endless permutations.


The Mosaic Distinction is that it was created by Moses which is evil that there is a "True" religion and there is a "False" religion and this causes war, strife, and violence.

Well right off the bat, It is a woman writing this and for women "war, strife and violence" are evvvilll!

Second, this is NOT something that Moses created. It is found in LOGIC! It is the basis of Paramenides principle of non-contradiction; the principle that a subject can NOT have two predicates that contradict each other---it is impossibility.

Furthermore, this is found in Plato's Republic where Socrates says, the basis of Western thought is "To Define and Divide". This is the basis of the Scientific Spirit. Truth by its very nature is This and NOT that! Truth has for its basis Distinction!

This author of the article points the supposed "Mosaic Distinction" as the cause of social pathology that caused people like Cho Seung-hui to kill.

Why I bring this up is that this article, based on faulty premises, supports a true hypothesis, that "U.S. society is a breeding ground for psychopathy."

There IS social psychopathy in America but it isn't because of the so-called Mosaic Distinction but what Henry Makow pointed out-----The loss of Gender Distinction and the other distinction---Race Identification!

IF Cho Seung-hui lived in a Korean neighborhood, IF Cho Seung-hui went to a KOREAN SCHOOL,---IF Cho Seung-hui's Korean identity was reinforced in a Korean Culture!--HE WOULDN'T have acted out! like he did!

We are creating sociopaths in America---because we have NO identity. And an ideological identity---is a PSUEDO identity! that never fulfills the individual and makes him constantly RESTLESS!

We are being socially conditioned! And when monsters are created, then it is the excuse of the establishment to enact their laws of confiscation and control!

Identity is very important, but it is NOT distinction that harms---but the lack of distincition!

Borders are to be maintained. Violence is used to maintain borders. This is the NATURAL ORDER. What liberals do, who are weak minded, and pusillanious, emotional, and sentimental, don't understand that Reality is Hard. Violence, War, and Strife, IN THE GOLDEN MEAN, are Normal.

The rest of the article is here: Beware The Ides of April: Cho Seung-hui and the Mosaic Distinction by Laura Knight Jadczyk. The article is quite long but it is by a typical woman with wrong premises and judgements.


On the Moses Distinction, this principle is an Atheist inspired hate hypothesis against religion. It has NO historical validity whatsoever!

People have been killing people since the time immemorial. Look at Cain and Abel---way before the time of Moses! Look at Aztec warfare and we know of several North American, southwest tribes wiped out, by other tribes and the Mosaic religion was nowhere around.

In Greece, the Pelopponesian War spawned all sorts of killing. The Athenians at Melos, killed all the men and sold the rest into slavery. Moses was nowhere around. Socrates killed by Athenian democracy. Socrates was a monotheist killed by polytheists. The Trojan War---all over a woman and Moses was nowhere.

The Mosaic Distinction is a canard cast up by the Atheists to smear monotheistic religion and to end "exclusion".

Exclusion is a very hurtful thing. An exclusive club. The Christian Religion is an exclusive Club! It excludes people who don't believe in Jesus Christ and then it excludes heretical thinkers.

Truth itself in Exclusive--of everything that is false! Truth by its very essence is Exclusive but on the other hand is that it is also INCLUSIVE; i.e. the philosophical principle, "Truth does not contradict Truth". All truth belongs with each other! Physical, Metaphysical, Spiritual Truth are all ONE.

Christianity is Exclusive AND Inclusive. All can become Christians---but only with Right belief is one accepted as a Christian! Right belief excludes but anybody with Right belief, man, woman, Jew, Greek, Barbarian, can enter. (With this caveat, that ONLY Europeans be the Bishops.)

To hold the concepts of Inclusiveness and Exclusiveness together in a harmony, in the right proportions and to their right objects---is only the property of a Greek mind. Other peoples mental programing can't handle this complexity.

This is important people--Reality is both Simple and Complicated with many factors. The ability to take in two opposing concepts, hold them in harmony, in the right proportions, and directed to their right objects is the basis of Christian Thought!

Not monomanicalism.

Christianity can not be seperated from European Man.


Bigotry ONLY exists when a custom, tradition, moral, or tribal boundary is crossed. In the Old Order, some of this is called "Shame".

As both Plato and Aristotle point out, and quite effective in the Spartan culture, "Shame and Praise" are useful tools in disciplining societies members. If a man ran off the battlefield, shame was employed.

Why.

First to punish the coward.

Second, to make the coward an example so that others DON'T follow his example.

Shame and Praise are powerful tools that provide DISCIPLINE within a society.

When tribal boundaries are crossed, bigotry is used to reinforce a metaphysical boundary! Boundaries exist for the sake of Identity! Boundaries exist for the sake of Order! Order presupposes Hierarchy. Breaking ranks causes bigotry.

High society can not function without Hierarchy. NO high society---NO high culture. If you want NO bigotry, no hierarchy---go live as a caveman, as a neolithic tribe somewhere in the Amazon basin or in Papau New Guinea!

The Higher of human endeavor, requires a high society that requires stratification, caste, hierarchy. The Church is a High society since it incorporates a Hierarchy. All High Organisms in the Natural Order exhibit stratification, hierarchy.

This Tikkun Olam, this fixing of the World, this egalitarianism, this modern republicanism, proposed by the Jews, who believe in the evolution of Man--in a higher plane of existence of some sort of Global Government----ARE ACTUALLY REGRESSING MAN to the point of a caveman existence. Look upon the vulgarity and puerility of modern culture---it is ALL gutter culture. This is what you get. Man is regressing! These people think they are so smart---but because they are following evil, they are actually doing the opposite of what their intentions are! They are committing hari kari.


Here is Catholic Social Doctrine:

"Racism and other forms of discrimination must then always be opposed." pulled from the Wikipedia article.


This is an encapsulation of Political Correctness. Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism. Catholic Social Doctrine IS Cultural Marxism. This is what the Modern Vatican II Church supports.


Here is the opening to the Natural Law article of the Catholic Church.

"In English this term is frequently employed as equivalent to the laws of nature, meaning the order which governs the activities of the material universe. Among the Roman jurists natural law designated those instincts and emotions common to man and the lower animals, such as the instinct of self-preservation and love of offspring. In its strictly ethical application–the sense in which this article treats it–the natural law is the rule of conduct which is prescribed to us by the Creator in the constitution of the nature with which He has endowed us.


Now, the East Asian Times Columnist 'Spengler', quoting the above writes:
"Sadly, most human societies evince no instinct for self-preservation, and certainly no love of offspring, for they do not bother to have sufficient offspring to survive."

"Most human societies evince No instinct for self-preservation? Really? What does bigotry serve? It serves the case for self-preservation. Three things are in play that is destroying this "self-preservation amongst Europeans

(1) Anti-bigotry or anti-racism

(2) Guilt trips laid upon the people because of deconstructionism and Holocaust propaganda.

(3)""(A) Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness."

These three things are all planks of Cultural Marxism. All three attack, undermine self-preservation.

Now the columinst Spengler is either a Jew or a Protestant Zionist. He wonders why some races have a "death wish" and are declining.

Cultural Marxism in those three planks attack the Will to survive. The first two attack the "Espirit de Corps", or the "Joie de vivre" by beating down.

The third is the spread of narcissism. It makes a person self-centered, pleasure seeking--in other words---an individual.

These three things combine to sap the strength of Race!

AND WHO SPREADS THESE MESSAGES????????

The JEW!

Look at our Media! and the disgusting programming! Who started ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX? Jews! All Jews.

Who teaches the deracination policies?

Karl Marx and Benjamin Disraeli--all Jews.

Spengler's own compatriots are spreading this message! And he is blind and dumb to the cause.

From the article: National Extinction and the Natural Law


Then the East Asian columnist Spengler attacks Natural Law:

"Theoretically speaking, man is capable of acquiring a full knowledge of the moral law, which is ... nothing but the dictates of reason properly exercised. Actually, taking into consideration the power of passion, prejudice, and other influences which cloud the understanding or pervert the will, one can safely say that man, unaided by supernatural revelation, would not acquire a full and correct knowledge of the contents of the natural law (cf Vatican Council, Sess III, cap ii).

In this system, God isn't strictly necessary, merely convenient, because humankind is "capable of acquiring a full knowledge of the moral law", although prone to mistakes without the aid of supernatural revelation. ...both cases, nature is in the driver's seat. [2] Either human reason can work everything out on its own, or it can't. Natural theology leaves humankind half-pregnant with reason.


Socrates and Plato are both examples of finding the moral law without the aid of Divine Revelation. Spengler makes other mistakes as well.

Creation, or the Cosmos IS a revelation of God! Second, Creation, or the Cosmos is a product of Jesus Christ for it says in Scripture that all things were created THRU Him!

As it says in the previous post's quote:"...the natural law is the rule of conduct which is prescribed to us by the Creator in the constitution of the nature with which He has endowed us." God implanted in our physical natures mechanisms to perform our function in our societies as races!

Natural Law DOES teach Belonging and volkenhass! These two things, (what moderns call 'bigotry' and 'racism') are mechanisms that PRESERVE race!

The Renaissance was about the melding of Classical Greece and Rome with Christianity---This was All REJECTED by Martin Luther for "sola scriptura". This is also the criticism of the E.A.T. Spengler. Spengler is the archetype of the glaring ignorance about Natural Law amongst the Jews and the Protestants. 'Sola Scriptura' is a monomanical thought paradigm.

The Natural Law, and its mother, the Temporal Order, ARE the foundations of Western Thought---which are based ON the LOGOS embeded in Nature!

And the LOGOS is Jesus Christ! And they are "blinded and astounded" to it!


Now, we come to a very very basic question---

What is the meaning of Life?

There are two answers here.

First, "For He (God) created all things that they might have their being". God brought us INTO Being. God Loves Us and so therefore desires, as we desire, a relationship with us.

The second meaning of life---

IS THAT WE LEARN OUR F#@$%@ Lesson!!!

And what is that Lesson?

Obedience to Law! The Story of the Garden Eden is NOT about 'free will' which the RC church and others overly, diproportianately propagate but is the that Humans have NOT learned the consequence of obeying Law.

God laid ONE law upon Adam---And Adam FAILED at being obedient!!

The cause of our WHOLE mess is that Adam failed to obey the law.

Why is there strife in this world? Because Man has got to learn the consequence of disobedience to Law. And as Socrates and Plato both reveal that is the Law that expounds the Good. Refusal to do the Good---leads to death.

Isn't that what God said to Adam if Adam failed to obey?

We are Here ON Earth to learn a very important lesson

Obey the Law; i.e. the Good---and live. OR...

Disobey the Law----and Die!

The purpose of higher law is about Life. Law, since it is an ideogram of the Good, is about giving Life.

This is the sentiment of the Doric Greeks, i.e. the Spartans, known for their extreme piety and obedience:

"We are not in the world in order to give laws, but...in order to obey the commands of the gods."


This is what you are supposed to be learning on this earth! This is the whole secret fellas, You are learning by the hard way, the consequences of NOT obeying the law---i.e. the Natural Law. Europeans and Americans are disregarding the Natural Law---and you are dying! You are all into ideology yet fail to learn wisdom.

Fail to abide by the Laws of Nature---and Nature Kills you! This is what is happening in Europe and America.

You can not disregard the Law. One thing Humans have never learned is OBEDIENCE. The Consequences of Nature are there TO TEACH. To Teach consequences. We failed in heaven, and so God has PUT US in a situation where we are TO LEARN our lesson---Obey the Law (the Good) and LIVE or Disobey the Law and Loose!

And Europe and America ARE loosing! God thru us out but gave us a second chance.

We are here NOT to give the Laws---We are HERE TO LEARN the ramifications of Law and Life, to obey the commands of God.


As the human is both Soul and body, both Spiritual and Material, the human must both have Divine Revelation AND obedience to Natural Law. As Man is bifurcated, his needs are bifurcated, and those needs are satisfied by bifurcated sources, Scripture and the Natural Law.

Man has to drink from two wells; Scripture and the Natural Law for man is derived from both. Man is BOTH Earth and Spirit. And as Man is BOTH Earth and Spirit---he must drink from both a Earthly well and a Spiritual well.


In a talk of the Enlightenment, the speaker succinctly described Englightenment thought:

"I will classify them as belief in perpetual progress toward some ideal state of natural happiness; belief in liberty, equality, and brotherliness as the primary and indispensable ingredients of that happiness; belief in democracy as the infallible means of securing it; belief in the power of unaided human reason to resolve all human problems and ensure that the rights and dignity of all are respected. Evil is chiefly due to ignorance and can therefore effectively be overcome by the right kind of education." from Enlightenment values: Their Social and Political Implications Over Two Centuries


The Enlightenment was created by Humanists that sought to bring about a New State of things. They all hated the Roman Catholic Church. The Enlightenment was about deconstructing the Old Order; i.e. the Traditional European Society and Christendom. These humanists were mostly Atheists or deists. I don't think a one anywhere was an orthodox Catholic. All these values are anti-Christian. This Enlightenment program was created by Euro-atheists; Euro-humanists. But in the record with a precursor of the Enlightenment, Giovanni Pico della Mirandola, it is found that he was a reader of the Kabbala. The progressive idea of the Enlightenment, I believe can be traced back to the influence of the Kabbala with these people.

What do you notice missing from that agenda?

De-racination. The Euro thinkers of the Enlightenment, as far as I could tell, did NOT advocate de-racination. But this is what has happened---De-racination has been coupled with the above Enlightenment ideas.

At some time--the plank of de-racination has been added to this mix! The Euro-Humanist Enlightenment got diverted or transformed by a simple addition--that of de-racination. And who added that to the mix?

These Enlightenment ideas above fueled the American and French Revolution which spawned the 1848 revolutions that spawned socialism. The Englightenment plan was hijacked by another set of people and this is what is going on today.

Cultural Marxism is in a sense these Enlightenment ideas married to a late addition called "De-racination".

This potent mixture is what we are being afflicted by and made MORE VIRULENT by the addition of just one more policy--that of de-racination.


I want to add to the previous post. Yes, I do recognize that fellow Europeans, the Atheist/Humanist crowd, has been our trouble and in some measure responsible for the West's destruction.

But as it is said, "Birds of a feather flock together".

The Euro Atheists/Humanists were joined by the Jews together. The Jews brought their Tikkun Olam, messiah complex of de-racination, into the Mix. Since they are an aristocratic race, and since cream rises to the top, they rose in leadership of this movement and direct it!

The Enlightenment is about deconstructing the Old Order and all people with a like mind join in. Communism is the political manifestation of the Enlightenment with the added Jewish ingredient of the de-racination ideology. It was Karl Marx that politicized it and gave it ground.


On the beginnings of WWI, Paul Gottfried writes:

"But Wilson’s government was so passionately pro-British and anti-German that our ambassador to London Walter Hines Page did everything possible to fuel international strife. Instead of letting the British know that the starvation blockade that Churchill began to place on Germany, weeks before the declaration of war, was illegal under international law, Page gave the British assurances that we would soon join them on the battlefield.


In 1954 Churchill told journalists,
"I am a Zionist, let me make this clear. I am one of the original ones after the Balfour Declaration and I have worked faithfully for it." from Winston Churchill and the "Jewish moneylenders": Far from being an anti-Semite Winston Churchill was a lifelong Zionist and philo-Semite, argues historian William D. Rubinstein


This is the man that egged on WWI by an illegal naval blockade. He jailed Rudolf Hess to silence the peace initiative. He is responsible for the firebombing of Dresden, a German city with NO military significance whatsoever.

Second, it was the British that engaged in bombing cities first!

There is some discrepancy about Churchill's ancestery, but him being a "lifelong philosemite" and his total belligerent attitude to Germany?

Here again Churchill comes out as an Internationalist:
"Winston Churchill was an early supporter of the pan-Europeanism. In his famous speech at the University of Zurich in 1946, Winston Churchill called for a "United States of Europe" and the creation of a "Council of Europe". He also participated in the Hague Congress of 1948, which discussed the future structure and role of this Council of Europe. The Council of Europe was finally founded as the first European institution through the Treaty of London of 5 May 1949 and has its seat in Strasbourg." fr Wikipedia.


What am I telling you---WWI and WWII is about destroying the Old Order, in destroying particularism and monarchy and replacing it with large economic zones under a global government.

Winston Churchill like Woodrow Wilson, Like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, were all Internationalists, hell bent on building a New World Order who didn't mind stepping on dead bodies to achieve it.


Let's just say, the nail has driven the coffin shut:

"This single sentence reveals Mr. Churchill's entire war policy. He wants to "clean up" Europe, which means making any kind of common effort impossible that would benefit the entire continent and bring about a new order." from The War Criminal Alfred Rosenberg


WWI and WWII were all designed to bring about the destruction of the Old Order! These wars were planned, furthered on and increased so these people Churchill, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR could all create a One World Government by destroying nationalism. This was planned way in advance. The United Nations is a Communist idea and concept. This is all behind the de-racination ideology of the Jews.


The Article is "The War Criminal Churchill by Alfred Rosenberg.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/c...gpa/ schul05.htm


"If the Jews are able to exploit their host peoples forever, they will remain a constant source of the open, destructive flame of Bolshevism, making it easy to repeatedly kindle it again, not to mention the political uncertainties resulting from disunity within the people and the danger to racial unity.


From: Dr. Achim Gercke, "Die Lösung der Judenfrage," Nationalsozialistische Monatshefte, Heft 38 (May 1933), pp. 195-197, and, in the same issue, Dr. Johann von Leers, "Das Ende der jüdischen Wanderung," pp. 229-231 (pulled from Solving the Jewish Question by Dr. Achim Gercke)

I am sorry folks but that in 1933 the Germans recognized the Internationalism, the de-racination polices of the Jews. I point to an earlier post in this thread to both Benjamin Disraeli and Rosa Luxemburg, both Jews, and their advocation of de-racination.

This is the problem people, the slander, the lies, the propaganda, the obscurantism to hide a central fact--the Jews, whereever they go, advocate, advance, and push deracination. Is this the Jewish Mission that Mr. Ambrams, also quoted earlier in this thread, alludes to?

What were the Jews advocating in Germany? DE-racination! To purposely attack a society in order to undermine it is criminal! This is the Jewish agenda of anti-racism! Anti-racism/anti-bigotry is about destroying any society from within; it is about attacking its social cohesion---AND in the words of E.A.T. Spengler--its Will to Live!

I am sorry to have to 'rediscover' a truth from Nazi but the truth is there! I am a monarchist and in NO way a socialist of any stripe! I am a reactionary. I am an Old Order. I am a Christian in which Jesus Christ says, "O Palios Christos Estin"; i.e. "The Old is Golden".

As it was true in Weimar Germany---it is true for America and Europe! The Jew is spreading his disease amongst us and that is Why Europe and America are falling! And we can't fight back because we live in a nation of cowards and the power elite crush anybody that speaks out. It is time to end the charades.


My open letter to the Jews.

Please, Go AWAY! Get out of our hair! Go Away! Please LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE. You are not Europeans. You are NOT Westerners. You have NO business here. You and your stupid Kabbala are the cause of so much death and destruction and I want you to LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE! Go Away! You have NO business in Europe or in America to push your stupid "jewish mission"! Your so-called "jewish mission" is destructive! Please get out of our hair! Go Away! Shut the Hell up! YOU Jews have NO business in European politics, in European societies, in Christendom!

Please Go Away! Leave us alone! Please, Go Away! I am sick and tired of you stupid people. You have the Midas touch of destruction. Go Away!

Signed: W. Lindsay Wheeler


I just realized that I just "re-invented the wheel"! I started with JK Rowling---and I ended up in Nazi propaganda. But it is not really propaganda at all. Germans are a very logical people. Logic is cause and effect. There is a lot of lying, obfuscation of what happened and what led to what. This road can be walked down by anybody willing to do the research.

We are ALL made to believe that the rise of Nazism was "spontaneous", without cause, and the INHERENT evilness of Germans, Gentiles and Christianity in particular! These are all the reasons given by Academia, Churchmen, Intelligentsia, Media, the Jews et. al. 89 years later, one can arrive at the same place with the same information is quite mindblowing. There is such a thing as "Cause and Effect". The Cause of the rise of National Socialism was the de-racination, deconstructionist, and narcissistic ideology of communism. The rise of National Socialism was a benefit to the Internationalist agenda by creating a bogeyman/golem in order to discredit nationalism. The Nazis played into the hand of the backers of Winston Churchill, and FDR and the Jews. The Firebombing of Dresden was just icing on the cake!


Earlier in this thread, I pointed out that there is NO such thing as "Seperation of Church and State". Well, I do have collaboration:

"The modern idea of freedom is thus a legitimate product of the Christian environment; it could not have developed anywhere else. Indeed, one must add that it cannot be separated from this Christian environment and transplanted into any other system, as is shown very clearly today in the renaissance of Islam; the attempt to graft on to Islamic societies what are termed western standards cut loose from their Christian foundations misunderstands the internal logic of Islam as well as the historical logic to which these western standards belong, and hence this attempt was condemned to fail in this form. The construction of society in Islam is theocratic, and therefore monist and not dualist; dualism, which is the precondition for freedom, presupposes for its part the logic of the Christian thing. In practice this means that it is only where the duality of Church and state, of the sacral and the political authority, remains maintained in some form or another that the fundamental pre-condition exists for freedom.

Where the Church itself becomes the state freedom becomes lost. But also when the Church is done away with as a public and publicly relevant authority, then too freedom is extinguished, because there the state once again claims completely for itself the justification of morality; in the profane post-Christian world it does not admittedly do this in the form of a sacral authority but as an ideological authority – that means that the state becomes the party, and since there can no longer be any other authority of the same rank it once again becomes total itself. The ideological state is totalitarian; it must become ideological if it is not balanced by a free but publicly recognized authority of conscience. When this kind of duality does not exist the totalitarian system is unavoidable." Excerpted from "Theology and the Church’s Political Stance" in Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger: Church, Ecumenism and Politics: New Essays in Ecclesiology (NY: Crossroad, 1988)


Notice the word "duality". Man IS bifurcated---in two. Man is the Union of two different distinct things---Earth and Spirit. In the principle of microcosm/macrocosm, As Man is---So is the State. The State MUST also be bifurcted. Man both needs the Natural Law and Scripture to live on. And as the Christian man is a duality, so his state is a Duality.

This is the basis of Christendom, the Monarch and the Church.
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Notice that the "Ideological State" must become totalitarian! As you can see in that University of Delaware program, America will become totalitarian! There is no such thing as "seperation of Church and State"--None! Ideology becomes a religion and mandates its premises. Ideology and democracy are synonymous and since egalitarianism is the highest virtue--all must hold the same views since all are the same and equal!


"Something is happening: we are becoming the first universal nation in
history ... If you believe, as the author does, that the American drama is being played out toward a purpose, then the non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality."

Jewish neo-conservative Ben Wattenberg, The Good News Is The Bad News Is Wrong (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1984), p. 84.
He is totally right! This is the purpose! Holocaustrainity is about beating the European down, de-moralizing him, and then acquiese in his own suicide and the E.A.T. Spengler has the gall to point out that it is European Man's inherent weakness that he does so!

Multiculturalism is the Jewish Agenda! It means the Death of European man and hence orthodox Apostolic Christianity!


"Australian Jews led the effort to dismantle the "white Australia" policy, one reason for which was cited in an editorial in the Australian Jewish Democrat:
"The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-Semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian."

It is all about them. They are ready to destroy all before them for their own sakes. It is all about them!

Multiculturalism is Communist culture. The same thing they have done in America---they are doing in Australia. The same modus operandi appears everywhere the Jew goes.

The previous quote and these quotes come from Cherchez le Juif: Kevin MacDonald's Culture of Critique


Let's revisit the Enlightenment again:

"I will classify them as belief in perpetual progress toward some ideal state of natural happiness; belief in liberty, equality, and brotherliness as the primary and indispensable ingredients of that happiness; belief in democracy as the infallible means of securing it; belief in the power of unaided human reason to resolve all human problems and ensure that the rights and dignity of all are respected. Evil is chiefly due to ignorance and can therefore effectively be overcome by the right kind of education." from >Enlightenment values: Their Social and Political Implications Over Two Centuries

To prove that this is Euro, I point to Rousseau. Rousseau is a Child of the Englightenment. He is
"was a philosopher of the Enlightenment whose political ideas influenced the French Revolution, the development of both liberal and socialist theory, and the growth of nationalism. from Wikipedia!


Note the words "social" and "nationalism". The flower of the Enlightenment is Rousseau---Do you see de-racination in Rousseau?

NO.

You see "Nationalism"!!!!

De-racination is not in Enlightenment thought!

Communism/International Socialism/Cultural Marxism----is the Jewish contribution! This is NOT part of Enlightenment thought. But Cultural Marxism is NOW EVERYWHERE! in the Church, in the School, in the College, in the Government, in the Media---Everywhere!


Now, I want to explain another mystery. Some of this stuff is from the "neo-nazis", the people on the fringe of political thought. Some of this is from National Socialists.

Why?

Where is the Church?

Well, there is a big disconnect in the Modern Vatican II Church!!!!!!!

It too has become Judiazied and has forgotten its European roots!

What is that?

The Natural Law.

See, the neo-nazis, the national socialists, the fringe groups ADHERE to the Natural Law! A lot of their thought program is the Natural Law.

Why is the Truth found amongst the evil and NOT in the Good?

BECAUSE OF DISPROPORTION within the Church!!!!!

Jesus is BOTH God and Man. Man is MADE in the IMAGE of God who is a duality!!! MAN himself is BOTH Earth and Spirit!!!!

This is the essence of Greek thought---to hold two (seemingly) opposite concepts, in harmony, with the right proportions, aimed at the RIGHT OBJECTS!!!!

Truth is found in BOTH the Scripture AND in the Natural Law! The MODERN Church, has Judiazed, and has ABANDONED the Natural Law! Whereas the evil has the truth in some extent---the Natural Law regarding race---The Church has went total Scripture where the Gospel is overruling all else!!!!

"Nothing too Much" is the Doric teaching, carved on the walls of Delphi. "Nothing too Much" is the Golden Mean.

"Even Good taken to the extreme, becomes Evil"


Nobody and I mean nobody knows anything about PROPORTION! Right Proportion. The Gospel is NOT about Race, is not supposed to dictate how Race is run and used!

The NATURAL LAW IS!

Why as a Christian, must I turn to neo-nazis to get the TRUTH on Race---and MY Church, which is SUPPOSED to be the Pillar of Truth, is (a) totally ignorant, (b) lying, (c) obscuring (d) forgetting the Natural law (e) NOT teaching and (f) promoting evil itself! Where is the Church???????????????!!!!!!

Jesus Christ is NOT only the Walking Talking Old Testament----Jesus is ALSO the Natural Law!!!!

Jesus IS the Logos. The Logos is both in the Scripture and as the Greeks called the order and principles in the Natural Order---the Logos!!!!

All of Creation was MADE THRU Jesus Christ!! The Natural Law embeded in Creation is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Reason of God. When we see reason in Creation---We are looking at Jesus Christ! Creation IS a revelation of God!

Why is the truth on Race found amongst the Neo-Nazis is that they adhere to the Natural Law!

The principle of philosophy is
"Truth does NOT contradict Truth"
Scripture does NOT counterdict the Natural Law and the Natural Law does not counterdict Scripture! They all have the SAME SOURCE---Jesus Christ!

What is happening is that the Church is increasingly dysfunctional because it is disproportionate! The Gospel, "being used toooo much", is being used to destroy the harmony that is supposed to exist between the Scripture and the Natural Law! The Gospel with its higher message---all of sudden is being used MONOMANICALLY--to the exclusion of all other Truth.

This is purposely done because communism and socialism steal certain fragments of the gospel for its own use. The Gospel is being abused in order to further the agenda of Multiculturalism, Masonic ideals, and tolerance and anti-racism for the Internationist agenda!

Christianity is the Complete Faith! Christianity is the Truth. The Truth is both Earth and Spirit; Natural Law and Revelation!

Scripture is a Revelation with the Gospels being the "last" revelation.

What is "Revelation"?

Just Knowledge! That is all. It is God Talking to us. The New Testament Completes the message---IT DOESNT ABROGATE lesser truths! For some reason, The higher truth of the Gospel is being used to negate, override and nullify other necessary truths!

Harmony is what is needed and this lesson of "harmony" and "proportion" is sadly overlooked and underestimated.

Why? First, there is a political conspiracy that many Churchman are into. Many churchmen are socialists, communists, masons. Second, as our culture is being Judiazed---our common Graeco-Roman heritage is being forgotten! The Jew wants us to forget our heritage as Europeans!


What is the "Ideological" state?

Why is the Ideological state totalitarian?

Because it is made up of ONLY ONE thing---Ideology. If "Ideology" is the ONLY thing---then it is by nature "totalitarian"!

Whereas under Christendom, "Church" AND "State", Scripture AND Natural Law, things exist in a HARMONY. There is not a totalitarian. Christendom is made up of TWO things whereas an Ideological state--is made up of only ONE THING--ideology. By necessity, by its very essence, an ideological state is Totalitarian.


I kinda figured out what I am doing---I am writing a book online! I am creating.

As of yet, I have no title for this. I can't even imagine what the title for this ought to be. When I email this link and what I have saved this thread under as "Rowling and Communism" but this has expanded. Amazing.


Which brings another point?

Why Multiculturalism?

One thing pointed out above was that Race brings identity. Race gives identity. This is being deconstructed and man is purposely being deformed by de-racination.

What are the other effects of de-racination?

The central core of de-racination is Rootlessness! Another, is that de-racination seperates people from the past, from their forefathers.

"The aim in promoting multiculturalism is to
downgrade or disavow the culture of our nation and civilization
.
Well, what is our Culture? Christendom, Graeco-Roman civilization---where we get our values from. We are to adopt NEW, Judiac, values--NOT our historical values. Multiculturalism is sinister in that it does disavow our Ancient culture!
"Multiculturalism
leaves those exposed to it morally disoriented and rootless
.
And you want to participate in this agenda, Why? I previously linked to an article about the Pathology in America! Well there it is "Morally disoriented" and Rootlessness!!! I call it demonic!!! And where is the Church? Actually participating it and complying with this Multiculturalism because we are not to be bigots or racists!
"Modernity has been
and is a process of de-sanctification, of dismissing ******the importance
of bonds********
. It is a reductionist process that reduces man to a set of
material needs and wants and economic roles and relationships,
which either glorifies state determination of these roles and relationships
or asserts that the great decisions of life will be made by
the invisible hand of the market process, without consideration of
civilized values.
What is does Race do? It provides Bonds! It bonds individuals to one another! De-racination is de-bonding. It is as if someone read Epicurius theory of atoms, and sought to "atomize" everybody by de-bonding them!

The above quotes are taken from "History, the Past, and the Inner Life" by Anthony Harrigan

It is an excellent and MUST read! This is what Multiculturalism does! Multiculturalism is the Way of Death!


You want to hear the Jewish Mission? Here is an audio tape of Max Shachtman, a Polish Jew who is a Trotskyite:

http://www.chicagodsa.org/st2.mp3

It comes from this site:

http://www.chicagodsa.org/audarch2.html


St. Paul wrote: "The Church is the Pillar of Truth".

Jesus said, "I am the Way, the TRUTH, and the Life".

Well what is Truth? Is Truth ONLY the Gospel? Because it seems that "The Church" only preaches the Gospel---But did Jesus and Paul quantify, characterize "Truth"? Did they limit it? Did they specialize it?

NO!

St. Paul did NOT say: "The Church is the Pillar of the gospel" nor did Jesus say, "I am the Way, the Gospel, and the Life". The word Truth is used!

Truth ENCOMPASES many truths! Why is NOT the Church being the Pillar of ALL Truth? Why is the Church selective in its teaching of Truth when St. Paul and Jesus did NOT constrict or restrict the concept of Truth?


If there is NO race, there is NO virtue!

Virtue only works in Race! Loyalty is a virtue. How and where does 'loyalty' become operative, if there is no bonds!

If de-racination is de-bonding, how and where is Virtue? How can one have courage? or loyalty or obedience if there is no Society in which those things are demanded! Virtue has no use or disappears in a de-racinated psuedo society.
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Even then Multiculturalism can not nor ever create a 'true' society. Multiculturalism creates a psuedo-society!

Virtue disappears in Multiculturalism since there is NO bonds, present or past!

Virtue only has meaning within a race and in no other!


Virtue ONLY works in a community. Virtue ONLY works where there is bonds! Virtue is only connected in a organic and natural society.

The first four virtues are: Prudence, Manliness, Righteousness, and Temperance. Other virtues are Loyalty, Reverence, trustworthy, friendly, courteous, (these from the Boy Scout Law).

These virtues ONLY work in a society of Race! How can Virtue be used in a society of strangers and foreigners, a society of multiculturalism? It can not!


"Race does not exist." - David Frumm, National Review, 2003

Neocon/Jew.


What is Race?

The Catholic Church defends Family all the time. The Catholic Church teaches the centrality of F-A-M-I-L-Y all the time.

Race is Family---a collection of INTERRELATED families. Race is a conglomeration of families. Race is made up of families and is ruled by a patriarchical family called Royalty. Just as it is in the animal kingdom, the human society is a mirror of the higher animal societies. Races all stem from a Patriarch at some point in history and have descended from that patriarch. When the Patriarch's descendants have reached some level of magnitude with a tradition, culture, and norms, it is called Race.

If Race is family, albeit One large family, Where is the Church? Why isn't the Church defending Race?


Why was the serpent in the Garden of Eden?

Why are the Jews, who are cursed, spread amongst us, since they are destructive of the societies they inhabit?

The same reason.

To test. Evil preys on the weak, the effeminate, the wrong-hearted. See, God is a Farmer. He Farms righteous human beings. In order to find out which are righteous and which are unrighteous, there needs to be temptation. There needs to be a culling. As is Adam was tested---and found wanting.

If you can't have Light without Darknes, you can't have cold without Heat, you can't have Christendum without Jews/humanists/atheists. It is about putting out the temptation and those that are weak, effeminate, and wrong-hearted are pulled away from the righteous and the manly.

The presence of the Jews is to ensnare the weak-minded, the decieved.

It is not extraordinary that wolve packs travel with the bison herds. Lion prides follow the wildebeasts.

Predators don't attack the strong---they prey on the weak. Who did the Serpent first appear to?---The Weaker sex!

When Christianity is weak, the predators will prey. There is prey. Just like the serpent was in the Garden of Eden, so are the Jews in the Garden of Christendom. It is about providing contrast, In providing a magnet for those "with wrong-hearts". It is about providing temptation to weed out those unfit for the Kingdom of God.

God is a Farmer. God farms Mankind for the Righteous. The Jews provide a foil for the weak and decieved. That a man's heart is tested.


Now, I come to something near and dear to my heart, Christmas, Easter, and Halloween. Protestants fulliminate against these Roman Catholic Religious holidays, why?

Because they ALL have Pagan beginnings! AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!!

But instead of "pagan" put in the word "European". All of these Christian holidays, Christmas, Easter, and Halloween, have European Roots!

Did NOT Jesus say, "You can't pour New Wine into Old Wine skins". New Holidays, New Traditions, New activities for NEW Wine! Of course, Christian holidays are Pagan, ooops, I mean European. Old European practices are Christianized brought in! For Christianity is an Indo-European Religion!

Protestantism is about "Judiazing" Christianity!
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"Christianity was NOT born in an isolated and local cultural atmosphere nor was it born out the of the Mosaic and Prophetic Scriptures of the Hebrews,...pg 393


The above quote is taken from Jerry Dell Ehrlich's Plato's Gift to Christianity, The Gentile Preparation For and The Making of the Christian Faith . He writes:
"It is certainly worth noting that the order of Being of the Christian Trinity is also based upon the Platonic Order". (pg398)
Before this quote, Prof. Jerry Ehrlich writes the Nicene Creed and then provides the parallel in Plato. In the book, Prof. Ehrlich gives Mosaic theology and parallels that with Platonic teaching. Prof Ehrlich writes:
"In every case above, the Christian Church chose to follow the Plato and NOT Moses and the Prophets; and such chosen teachings of Plato are the very foundation and backbone of the Christian Faith"! (emphasis added) (pg 397)
There is NO such thing as "judeo-Christianity"! That judiazing Christianity destroys Christianity and this is why the attack on the so-called "pagan elements" within the Christian holidays!

Christianity is an INDO-EUROPEAN RELIGION!!!!

When St. Constantine built the First public great Church---The Hagia Sophia----i.e. Holy Wisdom---the early Christian Church named it after the primary of Plato's four cardinal virtues. (Ehrlich, 396) Christianity is NOT a Semitic/Jewish religion! It is Greek/Platonic/Indo-European!

All the easter eggs, the Christmass tree, the costumes of the underworld are all European that add to the color and character of Christianity and makes it such a BEAUTIFULL religion! The cry of "It's pagan" is really the cry of the Jew in the Protestant.


Let me revisit Lucifer.

Angels are NOT made in the image of God!!!! Man IS made in the image of God!

"For God created man to be immortal, and made him to be the IMAGE of his own eternity. Nevertheless, through envy of the devil came death into the world: and they who are of their side DO FIND IT"
This quote is from what book? The book of Wisdom in the Septuagint (2.23-24). What is the first name of the first public church? The Hagia Sophia! Sophia.

Man is made in the IMAGE of God. The Greek word is 'Eikona', i.e. Icon. As God can create---humans can create! We can create other human beings thru sex! Angels CAN'T do that! Humans participate to a small extent all the things that God can do! As God made things---Humans can make things. As God is free---Humans are free.

How did death come thru?----The ENVY of the devil. What did the Devil Envy? Why the Place of Man!

What does communism hate? Priviledge, Priviledge---NOT EARNED! What pisses off the Devil even more?!? What pisses off the Jews even more?!? That the Gentiles are PRIVILEDGED without having to earn it! Salvation is a Gift of God--not being earned. The Priviledge of Heritage. The Left is ensconced in Hate--it bathes in hate---IN envy. Envy of the higher classes is the envy of Lucifer.

Lucifer had all the gold, jewels, status of heaven! He is called the Morning Star. He had all possessions. What possibly could he envy? The Place of Man ABOVE the Angels. Angels are NOT made in the Image of God, can NOT procreate, can NOT create. Angels don't share in all the attributes of God as Man does.

As it is in Heaven, so shall it be on Earth--the hatred of position.

"Thou Shalt NOT Covet"
And that means someone's position in life! Communism/Socialism is all about destroying the European Caste system, about destroying Royalty, about destroying Aristocracy. It is all demonic.


Dictionary.com Unabridged

de·rac·in·ate –verb (used with object), -nat·ed, -nat·ing.

1. to pull up by the roots; uproot; extirpate; eradicate.

2. to isolate or alienate (a person) from a native or customary culture or environment.

Multiculturalism is about this. This is the Jewish agenda. Can anybody tell me why this is good? So why is the Church for Multiculturalism?

What is culture? Well, to describe and bring to bear the importance of culture let us compare that to ecosystems. Culture is like an ecosytem for human beings. An Ecosystem is a culture.

Cactus need a desert ecosystem. A fish needs a Water ecosystem. If you pull a cactus out of the desert and put in a rainforest it dies. Things in this world ONLY exist in the proper environment.

Well Culture is an environment. A Culture is specific to a race! Take culture out of the race and you destroy the race. Race and Culture go together. Race creates a specific culture and Culture feeds the race. Western Races need Western Culture---NOT multiculturalism. If you take an animal or a plant out of its natural environment it dies. The same thing for a human. Take a human out of his culture and it dies.

Culture and Race are interconnected.


I posted this earlier:

"Australian Jews led the effort to dismantle the "white Australia" policy, one reason for which was cited in an editorial in the Australian Jewish Democrat:
"The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-Semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian."


Then I write: It is all about them. They are ready to destroy all before them for their own sakes. It is all about them!

What does this all signify? Narcissism. Why if you look at Jewish created media--it is all Narcissistic; playing to pleasures, sex, violence.

They are all narcissistic--self-centered people. "It is all about them". The world revolves around them! They are narcissistic to the core. Even their Tikkun Olam is about making them "superior" because they are "fixing" the world.

Whereas Christianity is NOT about "fixing" jack shit but curing the sick soul by finding salvation in Jesus Christ and by aiding or helping our fellow man. There is NO "fixing" the world. There is NO narcissism in Christianity or in Christendom.


Here is the Fourth example of when Christendom is attacked and destroyed---a Jew sits in the seat of Power.

At the time of the Italian Reunification, Italian forces attacked the Papal states:

"After that, Rome was no longer the City of the Popes. It was become, this chosen city of Peter, the capital of an Italy controlled by anti-Christian forces. The time would come when the Prime Minister of Italy would be the Grand Master of the Italian Masons, Crispi, and the mayor of Rome would be Nathan, a Jew. How Saint Peter must have grieved, even in Heaven, to see his Master crucified anew in the city of his predilection, the new Jerusalem!


Interesting! Masons encourage rebellion, led revolts and then Jews sit on the seat of Power!

Here again, the paradigm proves true. Masonic forces destroy Christian countries---and Jews become the de-facto rulers! This is the fourth time in modern European history and now the grand Masonic state of America is ruled by a power elite called neo-conservatives.

This info comes from the writings of Father Feeney: FREEMASONRY IN THE LIFE AND TIMES OF POPE PIUS IX by Father Leonard Feeney M. I. C. M.

On the Wikipedia site it records that the first thing thru the breach Aurelian Walls at Porta Pia was:
"According to the tradition, the first member of the Italian army to enter the breach at Porta Pia was a dog, called Pio IX in disdain of the Pope. It carried a cart with some Protestant Bibles."


"This is why Pius VII’s allegation of the condemnation of Marsilius is so pertinent to his condemnation of the first tentatively totalitarian measure of the French Revolution. The error of Marsilius, as of the Revolution, was a monism, social, political, juridical. The basic Marsilian premise, derived from an Averroistic interpretation of Aristotle, was the unity of the state, as forbidding the organization of human life into two distinct societies, spiritual and temporal. Within this one state there is one sovereign, whose authority is absolute and all-embracing: “It admits of no limitation whatsoever. His ‘sovereign’ is not bound by the law of nature, and freely disposes of the law of God;..."
By destroying Christendom, based on a duality of church and state, all things devolved into a MONISM---this Monomanicalism.
"In striking at this dualism they were striking at the last defense both of the spiritual freedom of the Christian man and of the political freedom of the people.


The above quotes are taken from an excerpt of a book on the internet called "The Church and Totalitarian Democracy" John Courtney Murray, S.J.

The article is quite long but it is a very good read with footnotes. I heartedly suggest the reading of it. It is about how Christendom was once constructed and how it is destroyed by Enlightenment thought.
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"The totalitarian lines of this solution are very clear. Its cardinal assertion is a thoroughgoing monism, political, social, juridical, religious: there is only one Sovereign, one society, one law, one faith. And the cardinal denial is of the Christian dualism of powers, societies, and laws—spiritual and temporal, divine and human. Upon this denial follows the absorption of the Church in the community, the absorption of the community in the state, the absorption of the state in the party, and the assertion that the party-state is the supreme spiritual and moral, as well as political, authority and reality."
If there is NO Church---Ideology WILL Rule! There are no two ways about it. America is in this predicament. It is coming. The Party is the Church.

(From the link presented in the previous post.)


This comes by the way of Dr. Makow. It is posted on his website as of Nov. 18, 2007. He posts writings of an Australian grandmother and her studies of the Protocols of Zion.

"Act One: “societies demoralized by us” (23.3) under conditions wherein “capital is free to establish monopolies of industry and trade” (5.7). The political expression of this monopoly is a soviet. In 1917, the Jews get and accept the script of “responsible positions to our brother Jews” (8.3) in the restructuring of Slavic nations. Those nations were transformed from fuedalism into state monopoly socialist economies by the Bolshevik Revolution.

Act Two: “our fighting forces…Communists – our social masonry” (3.7) create “an intensified system of government in order to grip in our hands all the forces of the community.” (5.1) In the formation of the soviet superstate under the Communist Party, nations were restructured and “societies were killed off” (23.3) The wholesale killing of millions of Christians (mothers, fathers, children, old people), entire nations like the Ukraine, is an example of the “the killing out of the Goyim.” (3.7)

Act Three: nationalist uprisings against the Bolsheviks and the Party / the Jews. In this Act, Bolshevik rule is challenged by social uprising. This takes the form of pogroms against the Jews who are virtually the Bolsheviks in government, in the army and as population benefiting from Bolshevik rule. In Act Three, the Jews undergo management “as lesser brethren.” (9.2) This is ‘Anti-Semitism’ enacted as self-defense that translates into cruelty and atrocities that displace millions of Jews (mothers, fathers, children and old people) and drive them from the lands of their birth. Many will migrate to Palestine, which is exactly where Sion wants them to occupy.

Act Four: “if there is a rising against us, we will respond with the guns of America or China or Japan.” (7.5) World War Two was machinated by Sion Dynasts to crush resistance in Eastern Europe and finalize Bolshevik rule. Germany had to be set up for destruction, because the German people were the major obstacle to the Bolshevik takeover of Eastern Europe. Act Four does not appear in the 1919 Investigation of course. But we already know Act Four. (Fortes in Fide)

It is my feeling as well that the Germans were Set up to be destroyed! The Germans are the MOST European of the Europeans! I have come to the same conclusion as a grandmother in Australia. If you know German racial proclivities, their logical mindset, their analness (attention to detail), their organizational abilities, the religious fervor they put into an object, their martial character---it all makes sense! Karl Marx wanted the communist revolution to take over in Germany and England First! Antonio Gramsci came to his conclusions about communist difficulty in taking over a country by looking at Germany.

Germany was marked for destruction! Dr. Makow has an article today about Victor Rothschild, the Fifth Man. Victor Rothschild was a Soviet Agent--like a lot of Jews---And was very very cozy with Churchill---another Jew.

What was Dresden?

Dresden was the quintessential German city! Dresden was cultural spiritual center of Germany. It had NO military significance. It had to be destroyed! Teutonphobia of the Jews knows NO bounds and they got heretical Christians to bomb it into oblivion just like they got heretical Christians to bomb Serbia!


Did you notice the sentence above:

"'Anti-Semitism’ enacted as self-defense..."
We MUST protect ourselves from the Jews! Our self-defensive procedures are Anti-semitic. When the Church attacks so-called "anti-semitic" behavior, the Church strips us Christians and our societies from Defense measures! We are NOT allowed by the Church to defend ourselves, or our families from the predations of de-racinating Jews.

This is why they are quarantined, for the health of both of our communities! I wish some body will talk sense to these people!

What is the First Act in Repentance?

First thing in Repentance is to face one's sin! The Jews need to repent! They need to face facts---and this has got to be done COLLECTIVELY.

King David sinned against God mightily! King David---NUMBERED his men! This was Sin.

Did God punish King David?

NO.

God's punishment against David was the wiping out of over 100,000 people thru a pestilence! God punished THE PEOPLE, the Collective! God punished the Nation! The punishment for Sin is both Individual and Collective! God punishes the nations.

The punishment for wandering is a COLLECTICE punishment---NOT an individual punishment. The whole Jewish Community Worldwide--must REPENT! They committed the Act of Deicide!--They must FACE THIS FACT, Repent, and have the Curse lifted off!

Because all you are doing in your instransigence is harming yourselves and us! If you don't want to repent--you must be confined to the ghetto for our saftey and yours! You are an EASTERN people--Dangerous to the Western people! Your mindset is NOT our mindset---Why can't you respect that?

The Act of Deicide is a Communal Act, done Communally and Repentance of that sin must be done Communally!

Second, "Know thyself"! You are Easterners---NOT Westerners! Don't Go where you Don't belong! Can't you understand this simple law of nature---To stay in one's position---Respect others?

If the Jew wants to get out of the Curse---He must Repent---Communally!


"Evil mimics good".
This is the essence of where St. Paul says the Devil is dressed as an Angel of Light.

Evil mimics good.

What did Jesus say?
"You can't pour New Wine into Old Wine Skins".
One must pour New Wine into New Wine skins. Christianity is put into a New Nation, into New Wine Skins. Christianity is a complete break from Judiasm. It is a Greek religion. Hellenism and Europe are the New Wine Skins for the New wine of the Gospel.

Well, this "Can't pour New Wine into Old Wine skins" is a paradigm of reality. It can be used for good---or evil.

This is what Deconstructionism is. In order to bring about a New Order---The Old Order has to be DE-constructed. One has to demolish the Old in order to build the New. This is what is happening.

Evil is mimicing good. Evil is about deconstructing the Old Wine Skin. The New Wine is Globalization--One World Order, the Novus Ordo Secularum. You can't pour that into the duality of Christendom. You can't have exclusiveness. Inclusiveness is the rule of the day. Multiculturalism, anti-bigotry, anti-racism are all the New Morality, New Culture, the New Wine Skin for the New Wine of Globalization.

Evil mimics good.


Another quote from The Church and Totalitarian Democracy:

Proposition 3: Human reason, under no slightest regard of God, is the single arbiter of the true and the false, the good and the evil; it is a law unto itself, and of its own natural resources it is adequate to procure the well-being of men and of peoples.

Proposition 39: The state, inasmuch as it is the origin and source of all rights, possesses an authority that is without limits .


The second proposition is pure totalitarianism; its condemnation was a vindication of the political freedom of the citizen. The first proposition is the root of all secularist monism; its condemnation was a vindication of the spiritual freedom of man, which is rooted in the existence of a divine Reason in whose image man is made. And the two contrary assertions, implied by the two condemnations, are pregnant of the bases of the


Haloscan cut off the remaining paragraph:

"The second proposition is pure totalitarianism; its condemnation was a vindication of the political freedom of the citizen. The first proposition is the root of all secularist monism; its condemnation was a vindication of the spiritual freedom of man, which is rooted in the existence of a divine Reason in whose image man is made. And the two contrary assertions, implied by the two condemnations, are pregnant of the bases of the Christian dualism of laws and authorities at which totalitarian democracy struck: there are two orders of human life, and two authorities whereby they are respectively ruled. Each of these authorities acts by native right in its own field, and each of them, by reason of the inviolable distinction between them, is competent to limit the action of the other. It could be shown, were this the place to do so, that the preservation of this dualism in some functional form is the distinctive mark of true democracy as over against the totalitarian type.
You must read that excerpt from Fr. Murray.

Jesus Christ IS Duality. Jesus Christ is Fully God and Fully Man! We are made in the Image (the Icon) of Jesus Christ being Earth and Spirit just like Jesus is! Man is both Soul and Body. The Whole is no different from the parts. As Man is a duality---the State must be a duality. Christendom is built on Two Pillars---Church and State. As Jesus is, So must Christendom.

The one error of this excerpt is that Fr. Murray uses the term "democracy". Democracy IS a monism. Christian government can either be a Monarchy, an Aristocracy, an Emperor (such as the Byzantine Emperor), a dictator such as Generals Franco or Pinochet or the best form The Classical Republic. The Classical Republic is Mixed government; i.e. the Golden Mean. The best example of the classical republic is tripartite. The Trinity is a Classical Republic. The Classical republic is a mixture of forms; it is NOT a monism.


This is the error of Nazism:

"The social morality of totalitarian democracy must be absolutely homogeneous, like society itself, whose spiritual unity rests upon it. It must be obligatory on all, the single ethic of the state, of which the state itself is at once the source and the sanction. The diffusion of this social morality throughout the whole social body makes the state a true spiritual community, a sort of quasi-church.
This comes out of the French Revolution. The error of the Nazis is not their racialism or their anti-communism is that the state became a psuedo Church! If you destroy the Church--Nature abhors a vacuum---its similarity will be recreated elsewhere! In this case the state took over the function of the Church. You can read Adolf Hitler throughout that quote!

This is what the confluence of Atheism, Humanism and the Jews have wrought! You messed with the paradigm,---and it became a violent parody. The whole Enlightenment MUST be disavowed! ---And that means America! America IS an Enlightenment creation and it is following the path.

In Christendom, there were all sorts of particularisms, all sorts of distinctions, a caste system and all sorts of diversity. Christendom is the Old Order.


Then someone asks, "If a democracy is a Monism, why isn't a Monarchy a Monism?"

First off a true organic Monarchy presupposes an Aristocracy and commoners. No Monarchy exists by itself! Every Monarchy has an Aristocracy. And of course a Monarchy rules OVER something--there must be commoners.

In a Democracy--it is just the demos! There is no heirarchy. There is just the people! It is a Monism pure and simple.

And in Asian Monarchical Despotism--the King is the Church, like the Pharoahs, the Assyrians, Babylonians, the Medes and the Persians. Religion was NOT seperate from the person of the king! So Alexander the Great was a Asian Monarch, and his despotism shows. Same with the Roman Emperors.

That changed with the Church of Jesus Christ. The Church is Supernatural. The Church has an Independent and Divine beginning!

So Monarchy in the European sense is NOT a Monism! Democracy is a Monism! Pure and Simple!


Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life". Notice the word 'Way'.

'Way' is a road, it is a path travelled. Did Jesus say, "I am the Ways? NO. There is ONE Way.

There is NO Communist Way.

There is NO Fascist Way.

There is NO Enlightenment Way.

There is NO Libertarian Way.

There is NO American Way.

There is ONLY the Way of Jesus!

The Way of Jesus IS Christendom! Monarchy/Classical republicanism and the Church! That is Christendom---and there is NO other!

God thru His Son created Reality. God Thru His Son created Man. God in His Infinite Wisdom created reality and man a SPECIFIC WAY! There is NOT a plurality of realities or men! Man is ONE way. Reality is ONE way. Therefore, man's civilization, man's societies, in Europe, ONLY go a certain Way!---the Jesus Way---not the libertarian Way, NOt the Jewish Way, Not the Socialist Way---The Jesus Way. There is ONLY One Road called the Highway of Jesus Christ; you're either on it---or you are wandering in the desert lost.

Jesus said "I am the Way"! Jesus is the Logos! The Logos must be followed by Man! The Logos is BOTH Scripture and the Natural Law. St. John the Apostle called Jesus the Logos. It is a SPECIFICALLY Greek word! At the time of Jesus, the Greeks saw the Logos in the Cosmos! This is what St. John the Apostle is getting at!

There is ONLY One Scripture and there is ONLY ONE Natural Law! Only Christendom is built on both! There is ONLY One Way for Christians---return to the Old Order! Return to your tribe. Return to your Tribal Leaders (Monarchy), Return to Church and State!, Return to Christendom!

There is ONLY One Way!---Jesus's Way!


It's funny.

Role Reversal.

The National Socialists were against Decadence!

Doesn't the Bible teach:

"Turn away my eyesthatI may not behold vanity" LXX Psalm 118.37

"I have not set before mine eyes any unlawful thing." LXX Psalm 100.3


Again, the National Socialists were against Race-mixing!

Doesn't the bible teach that also?

I am wondering, If the Bible, If the Torah preaches against intermarriage, race-mixing, Why are the Jews going around preaching multiculturalism? Why are the Jews for race-mixing?

It is as if the National Socialists WERE FOLLOWING the Jewish Bible----while---while---the Jews were---following the Devil?

In the Bible were not the idolatrous condemned to genocide?

Everything that was against the bible was being done by the Jew in Germany---and the National Socialists WERE following the dictates of the Torah!!!

To all the John Haggees of the world out there--Why doesn't the Jew OBEY his own scriptures? If the Torah is against race-mixing---why is the Jew preaching it to the Gentile? If the Tanack is against filthy decadent things---why is the Jew making it?

Isn't the Tanack for Racial purity? Then, why is the Jew screaming Nazi at everybody that upholds the biblical viewpoint?

I mean look at what the National Socialists attempted to correct in Weimar Germany. They were following the Torah in Moral uprightness and in racial purity! Didn't earlier in this thread I quoted a piece where the Scriptures have the Jews divorcing their gentile spouses?

Isn't this quite funny/sad.


I want to revisit the letter of Baruch Levi to Karl Marx that is quoted earlier in the day:


"The Jewish people, as a whole, will be its own Messiah. Its domination on the world will be achieved by the union of the other human races, through the elimination of frontiers and of monarchies, which are the ramparts of particularism, and through the formation of a worldwide republic, in which the Jews will enjoy their rights everywhere. In this new organisation of humanity, the sons of Israel, who are now scattered throughout the world, will be able, without obstacles, to become everywhere the leading element, especially if they manage to place the working masses under the control of certain of their own number. The governments of the peoples constituting the worldwide republic, with the help of the proletariat, without this requiring any effort, will all fall into the hands of the Jews. Private property can then be subject to rulers of Jewish origin, who will control the state goods everywhere. Thus, the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled, according to which Jews, when the time comes, will possess the keys of the wealth of all the peoples of the world (cf. Revue de Paris, 35, 11, p.574).
Well, I am currently reading Jerry Dell Ehrlich's fabulous compedium, Plato's Gift to Christianity and on page 152, Prof. Ehrilich lays out the theme of the so-called Apocalyptic work of I Enoch:
"The Jewish theme of an earthly kingdom of Israel which will be supreme and will rule the other nations is found throughout the work as a means of giving hope..."

AND AND
"But the kings of the earth will be subdued, and God's chosen people will rule".

Notice the similarity between Prof. Ehrlich's summation of Jewish thinking and Baruch Levi. Notice the """"subduing of the kings of the earth""""!!!

What has been going on in the last two hundred years???? The Subduing of Kings and that when the Kings are killed----JEWS sit on the seat of Power and JEWS RULE.

This is all Materialistic! Communism is Jewish mentality and Jewish thinking!

Whereas Prof. Ehrlich points to the influence of Platonism in the Septuagint---its Transcendence! God's plan is being worked out MATERIALISTICALLY by the Jews in communism where as God is a Transcendence and Christianity works out God's plan TRANSCENDENTICALLY!

Communism and liberalism is all about the materialistic and banal fulfillment of Jewish aspirations for the world--The Destruction of the Monarchies of the World---then the De-racination of the peoples---and then the Clamored Jewish rule over the nations! This is for the Jews---materiallistically.

But seen transcendentically, Christendom is God's plan; i.e. Church and State. That the Church of Jesus Christ rules in the State as a co-equal partner with the Monarch. Jesus Christ rules all nations already. That the Jews thru Jewish Bolshevism is destroying the Church of Christ is an absolute tragedy, that the Jews really do seek the death of Jesus Christ. In their unbelief, they have set up their messiah complex into a wordly political philosophy called Communism--and since that is now dead, it has morphed into Cultural Marxism and Libertarianism. Only by splitting people and teaching people that they are nothing but individuals, (((and this is the crux of the malignancy))), the Jews can rule over a mass of mongrelized rootless individuals. The Jew will have his prophecy fulfilled.


Again, Prof. Ehrlich points out:

"The work (speaking about I Enoch), shows many Jewish nationalistic themes of hope, REVENGE, and the favor of God's directing history;..." (pg 152)(emphasis added)
Notice the word "Revenge". Revenge is the sign of the mean-spirited man! It is the lashing out of the child. Revenge is a deep-seated sentiment of the Jew! The bible is full of the Revenge of the Hebrews and the Jews! For instance, when their sister was raped, the Hebrews fooled the gentiles into circumsizing themselves and then came, when the men were immobolized, and slaughtered them all---That is Revenge! And add to this the Samson option. Ask yourself why does Israel NEED 200-400 Nuclear Bombs? Wouldn't five be enough? Why does she need 400? For the Samson Option of course!

Revenge is a deep-seated and integral part of the Jewish psyche. And the Jews are having their revenge upon Christianity! Jewish Cultural Marxism, institionalized and modernized in the Frankfurt School, is about dismantling the Christian West.


I will lay it all out:

The Christian West was doomed with the Enlightenment. The American and French Revolution is the first act and also the coffin of the Christian West. Christianity is Dead.

Everything after, the revolutions of 1848, the Italian revolution, WWI and WWII, the Spanish Civil War, ARE ALL addendums upon the American and French Revolutions. It is all a continuation.

The further dissolution.

The complete Marxization of the Church heirarchy, the academia, the intelligentsia, everybody is into the Globalization and its Culture--cultural Marxism.

Globalization can not be stopped.

One World with One World leader is coming. That One World Leader will be Jewish.

After the crys of Peace of the World has now been established---Hell will be unleashed upon the Earth.

The destruction of the World follows.

This process can not be stopped. Once you hit the Event Horizon of a black hole---You can NOT escape! As it is in the macro--so goes the micro. Christendom has hit the Event Horizon in the American and French Revolutions. There is NO Escape to the finality that is occuring!

Evil will be successfull. True apostolic Christianity is surviving in only a handfull of people in the fringes. The Corporate Church is all but dead. This handfull of people are all in the fringes, marginalized, de-legitimized, and powerless.

This evil can NOT be stopped---only by the Personal Intervention of Jesus Christ. This evil power is going to be soooo great that no person or what remains of the real Church can escape. Only the personal REAL intervention of Jesus, his Second coming, will this evil be stopped.


I was a bit confused where to place I Enoch. It is NOT in the bible but it is apocalyptic book of the Jews.

What does that mean? I believe that what is in the book of Enoch is also in the Kabbala. The same memes, themes, and paradigms are in the book of Enoch and the Kabbala.

Prof. Ehrlich is talking about Hellenized Judiasm and he is quoting sections of I Enoch:

"For the righteous Elect, however, there shal be eternal EARTHLY riegn of the Lord of the Spirit, where there is NO more injustice or WAR or shame."
No more War? Sound familiar--the socialist cry of Eternal Peace! on Earth!?! Notice also the "No shame", I equate that with "No Bigotry". No shame=No bigotry. There is no differences, no particularism.

Shame: a painful feeling of humiliation or distress caused by the consciousness of wrong or foolish behaviour.

Bigotry: Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

There is a similarity between the two words. Shame is a painful feeling or humiliation caused by Differences. Bigotry is Intolerance of Differences!

He continues:
"A second strong Jewish theme throughout the work is that Truth comes by means of revelations and visions, NOT from the works of man or earthly wisdom; revelation, NOT science, is the way to the truth."
Doesn't this sound eerily like Protestantism that rejected the Renassaince, rejects Philosophy, rejects the Greeks, is somewhat anti-scientifical? Isn't this what the E.A.T. (East Asian Times) columnist Spengler gets when he asks:
"If our nature inclines us toward the moral law without the help of revelation, it is not clear why God is strictly necessary.
Spengler is lamenting the fact of Natural Law, that it is scandalous that the Natural Law is Equal to the Hebrew Scriptures.

Most of the thoughts in I Enoch are """"definitely Jewish and NOT Hellenistic"""". He goes on to point to the Hellenistic features of I Enoch.

The Greek has NO problem with Divine Revelation and Earthly Wisdom--Wisdom founded on the Natural Law! Whereas the general Jew has a problem with the Natural Law, with Earthly Wisdom, with Science, with Reason.

The Greek holds both in a Harmony. Just like Jesus Christ is a Harmony. The Greek Christian holds Divine Revelation AND the Natural Law, the logos embedded in nature in a Golden Mean, in a harmony.

Communism/Cultural Marxism is the embodiment of the Jewish Psyche, the Jewish Angst, the Jewish personality. Communism/Cultural Marxism is about fulfilling the Jewish Scriptures and Kabbala. All of which is Materiallistic! Whereas Christianity is a Transcendent Religion. Christianity is a Greek religion---that fixes the Soul of Man---not the World of Man! Jesus Christ did NOT come to Fix the World---He came to fix the Heart of Man, To fix the Soul of Man! To fix the Relationship between God and Man---NOT fix the world! Communism/Cultural Marxism is the Jewish Mission!

Jesus transferred the Faith to a New People. A New Nation for a New Gospel. A nation exhibiting thought in Trancendence and Metaphysics, a sophisticated and philosophical people; a scientific people, a people led by reason, i.e. the Logos. Christianity is a Greek/European religion!


What did it mean that Christ came at the "fullness of Time"?

That the Faith was being upgraded. The Faith was coming into its own. That the people were ripe for the full Faith and of God.

First, the battle of Thermopylae and Plateia that secured the freedom of the West from the East. The West is Second Born. If the Persians succeeded, there would have been NO Plato, Socrates, or Aristotle!!!!

Second, Alexander the Great that brought Hellenism to all the known world, especially the Orient and more specifically Palestine. The Hellenization of Judiasm and the translation of the LXX.

Hellenism is in many respects Platonism. Plato is the Archtype of the Greek. Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were the Gentile prophets of Jesus Christ. Platonism had to be spread throughout.

Next, the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire came, conquered all but Hellenism conquered Rome. Furthermore, the Romans are in place to destroy Jerusalem. All things were in place. Hellenism was throughout the region so that Christianity would form around Plato and next the Roman legions were around to destroy the Temple and scatter the Jews.

The New Temple IS Jesus Christ! The Temple of the Faith is the Body of Jesus Christ which IS the Church!

That is what is meant by the "Fullness of Time" all things were there for Jesus to use and create and finish his mission.


As to racial purity.

Did NOT Abraham send a servant BACK TO THE HOME Country to find a woman from his own tribe to marry his son?

Did NOT Isaac send his son back to his HOME COUNTRY to find a woman from his own tribe?

My Grandfather after immigrating here to America, went BACK TO HIS Home country to get a Wife!

If the Hebrew Patriarchs were for Racial purity why is the Jew preaching Race-mixing?

Why if the Patriarchs of the Hebrews concerned with Marrying their own---that the Jew today crys 'NAZI' at anybody that so suggests?

We have here the DOUBLE Standard. Here we have the Hypocrites! I suppose now that the Tanack is a Nazi document since it preaches Racial purity!!!!!!!!!!!!


From Plato's Gift to Christianity:

"In the Lysis the relative argument for virtue is made and rejected by Plato. The Argument that there can only be good because there is evil is rejected because goodness is an eternal and unchanging virtue; its existence is as absolute as its purity, and in no way is relative to the existence of its opposite (Lysis 220-221) (pg 216)


Good is only Good when it is PURELY good! Good is an Absolute and Purity is an essential ingredient to Good!

Notice the word 'relative'. The war is between those that think that everything is 'relative' or 'grey' and those that have Absolutes!

What is Shame? Shame is about MORAL PURITY. Shame occurs when the Moral Law is broken.

What is Bigotry? Bigotry is intolerance. Bigotry is about Physical purity. Bigotry occurs when the Physical/natural law is broken. Bigotry keeps the purity!

If Truth is Absolute, then Truth MUST be Pure! Standards are Absolute--and therefore Pure!

See under Cultural Marxism is the age old disease of Relativity. All things are relative! There are NO absolutes. Well if there is no Metaphysical absolutes, NO spiritual absolutes, No moral absolutes, NO religious absolutes, then there are NO racial absolutes!

There will be harmony. If you think one way on a certain object---you will use your way in other objects! There will be uniformity amongst your set-up of the world. Because there is NO metaphysical absolutes--there can be NO racial purity! No bigotry.

In some cases Purity is needed! Purity is a Good thing.


Earlier I posted about Churchill as a Jew and his relationship with the 5th Man, Victor Rothschild. Victor Rothschild was a Soviet Agent. Now there is a third Jew with power with Franklin Roosevelt and Churchill. His name:

Bernard Baruch.

"At Hobcaw House he was host to such world leaders as Winston Churchill and President Roosevelt, who visited for a month in 1944.

In 1931, Sir Winston Churchill was hit by a taxi, while on his way to meet Bernard Baruch." From Wikipedia.


Wikipedia's article,Bernard Baruch even has a picture of Baruch with Churchill!

WWII and the unEuropean Unconditional surrender---were all Jewish Instigated. At the center of WWII is Winston Churchill a Jew, who was close confidants of both Victor Rothschild and Bernard Baruch, financier! WWII was a Jewish War.


On a voxday haloscan, this was posted by O'Conner:

""There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism. They come not to beg, but ask for that which is higher than all material things. They seek to have satisfied the unquenchable thirst after the ideal. They ask to become once again the messengers of right, justice, and humanity."
-Rabbi Wise The New York Times June 11, 1900, p. 7
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"In the world today there are about 13,000,000 Jews, of whom more than 6,000,000 are in the heart of the war zone; Jews whose lives are at stake and who today are subjected to every manner of suffering and sorrow,"
-New York Times January 14, 1915, p. 3: a letter from Jacob H. Schiff, read by Mr.Louis Marshall.
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"'The successive blows of contending armies have all but broken the back of European Jewry,' he said, 'and have reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth."
-New York Times, Felix M. Warburg, September 29, 1919, p. 7
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"From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help...Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life...In this threatened Holocaust of human life.."
-The American Hebrew, October 31 1919 By MARTIN H. GLYNN
(Former Governor of the State of N.Y.)
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What Mr. O'Conner has stumbled upon is Psych Warfare. Notice the dates---some 20 years or more before the final Solution in 1942! Notice the constant use of the magic number 6,000,000 and the word 'Holocaust'.

See, Socrates way back then is that "Concept comes before Knowledge". Those reports Mr. O'Conner quotes is about spreading concepts before the event ever happens! And the magic word "six million" is repeated and repeated again and again. It is psche Warfare.

Furthermore, it is like an incantation. It is like they are calling it forth, It is like they wanted it to happen! It is a magical incantation to call forth powers to make it happen. It is an incantation!


Again, notice the "They ask to become once again the messengers of right, justice, and humanity." This is the so-called Jewish Mission; it is the materialistic systems of Communism and Socialism. International Socialism is of the Jew.

What was WWII about? The fight over the process the Enlightenment started! See the Enlightenment was created by Euro humanists who read the Kabbala, but it was national Socialism as embodied in Rousseau. The program got hijacked by the Jews who added their internationalism and de-racination policies. It was about crushing European National Socialism for the sake of Jewish Bolshevism.


"According to the Book of Acts the church became more and more Hellenized as the years passed and also in accordance with the distance of the expansion from Jerusalem: for the church became more and more Gentile and further away from Jerusalem which was the historical center of Judaic influence. But Platonic influence was everywhere in the Mediterranean World: proportionately the little Judiac influence there was left faded and the Platonic influence which was the REAL SOURCE of Christianity anyway, increased, and slowly purged itself of all forms of Judiasm." (pg 267)

This quote is from Jerry Ehrlich's Plato's Gift to Christianity. Christianity is a Greek/European religion. What is constantly pointed out is that the Jews are ensconced in materialism. All the prophecy of the Bible is geared, as to their interpretation, of physical manifestations and a physical, this world, working out; of Israel supremacy and rule over the nations; the messiah to lead this physical world revival.

What Plato does is bring in Transcendence. All things revolve around the Soul---which is Metaphysical. The Jews are NOT a metaphysical people. Christianity is a Metaphysical religion--a Religion of the Soul. Immortality is NOT a Jewish teaching. Jewish immortality in the orginal Hebrew Scriptures is that of the Tribe; the life and continuation of the Tribe and male blood line.

When Plato states, "All Souls are Immortal", the focus of life is on the soul---not on the world. It is the grand transformation from Judiasm to Christianity! This is the theme of Prof. Ehrlich's book--the transcendent teaching of Plato is used to transform the faith.

There is NO such thing as judeo-Christianity.


For you latecomers to this thread, this thread started out by unmasking the Cultural Marxism in the Harry Potter series.

This has ballooned of course into what is Communism which JK Rowling who is influenced by Jessical Mitford a communist.

So this thread has expanded to "What is communism". There are two sides of Communism--economics and cultural. Communism does have a telos--One World Government, and this thread is about unlocking the secrets of this movement and how it has progressed.

If you start at the top, press Ctrl+F, type in 'wheeler', and find all my posts from the beginning.

THIS IS A BOOK being written ONLINE as it goes. Each post is like a page. This book is unraveling what is going on. I call it "The Great UNF#$#$^#" for it is about unf*ching the enlightenment and the whole sordid mess we are into. IT is about exposing the traitorious activity and motivations of the power elite to bring about their sacred (diabolical) telos.


To understand the misguidedness of the Jewish mission let us go back to the time of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ came with a Message, a teaching; that His Kingdom ---IS NOT OF THIS WORLD.

Well, what was the conceptions of the Jew?

He was looking for an earthly king to restore the greatness of Physical Israel. The re-establishment of Jewish liberty and Greatness. They were looking for a Physical Messiah---Not a Transendental, Metaphysical Messiah.

From the New Testament, we get the basic Jewish mentality and outlook---its Materialistic. Their minds are directed to the Physical, to the Material. What were the Sanhedrin? The Sanhedrin were the Traditional Hebrews that did NOT believe in Resurrection of the Soul! The Pharisees were the Hellenized Jews who were Platonized and believed in Soul, its Immortality and in Resurrection. This is all from Plato. Jesus had Pharisee friends and acquantices--You never hear Jesus with the Sanhedrin.

The Jewish mindset IS Materialistic. Then you can understand the BASIC Foundation of the Jewish Mission. The Jewish Mission IS International Socialism! It is about them working out their prophecies IN THIS World in a MATERIALISTIC fashion. They don't see Metaphysically.

This DOES put them in odds---WITH Christianity. Christianity and Judiasm or the Jewish Mentality---IS Worlds apart!

The Jewish Mission is at odds with Christianity! They are diametrically opposed. The Jewish Mission, this "the messengers of right, justice, and humanity", is the foundation of the Enlightenment or is piggybacked onto it.

Jewish "justice" is NOT European understanding, modality of Justice!

Aristotle writes,

"To Treat UNEQUAL things EQUALLY is INjustice!"


Traditional European Society HAS ALWAYS BEEN in the Caste Sytem. Jewish "Justice" is about dismantling European traditional Society by ending priviledge!

The Jewish concept of "justice" is NOT the European concept of Justice!


I have come to figure out what's up about the Jews. "The Jews are the bull in the China Shop of Europe". China is beautiful but delicate. Christendom was once a beautiful place. Christendom was intricrate and delicate. Christendom was like China. All smashed like china by the bull of Jewish Bolshevism.

The Jews are a very smart and intelligent people---but that doesn't make them wise. Wisdom takes philosophy and these people don't have a clue. They spread an ideology that is totally destructive of European culture and civilization. They are the Bulls in the china shop of Europe.


This is the original post that started this thread: "Passion and Potter".


"They were formulated in 1919 by Bernard A. Rosenblatt, a prominent Zionist, in his book Social Zionism. From it we cull only the following lines, not deviod of interest:--

A. The Jew as a social force in history:

(1) The prophets of Israel as the preachers of political, social and economic Democracy.

(2) The rabbis as the teachers in a democratic school of Jewish students

(3) The Jewish figures in political history almost invariably the leaders in Liberalism, Labour and Socialism."
Quoted in The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion By Sergiei Nilus, 1999
pg 261.


Rosenblatt's 1919 book lays out the Jewish mission, folks. It is ensconced in Democracy. They are the leaders of liberalism, labour and socialism. Extend Liberalism out to Libertarianism, and you get the feel for who created it and is in charge of that movement. The Jew is a "social force". What happened to Christianity? Where is the Christian leadership? Is our European countries going to be run by European Christians---or by Jews for Social change? This is it folks.

To be an anti-communist is to be Anti-juden. If you are NOT an anti-communist---you are NOT European. By nature to be European---is to be automatically Anti-Juden.


Here is an excerpt of a speech by Karl Marx at the International Meeting held in London on November 29, 1847 to mark the 17th Anniversary of the Polish Uprising of 1830:

"The victory of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie is, at the same time, victory over the national and industrial conflicts which today range the peoples of the various countries against one another in hostility and enmity. And so the same time the he last to wish for its restoration. But it is not only the old Poland that is lost. The old Germany, the old France, the old England, the whole of the old society is lost. But the loss of the old society is no loss for those who have nothing to lose in the old society, and this is the case of the great majority in all countries at the present time. They have rather everything to gain by the downfall of the old society, which is the condition for the establishment of a new society, one no longer based on class antagonisms."


Here it is in black and white, Karl Marx is calling for the destruction of the Old Order. No Christian can be for this! This is the Jewish Mission! It must be combatted. This is what is undermining America and Europe. The Destruction of the Old Order IS Masonic and Communist/Jewish Bolshevism!

What is the Old Order?

It is Christendom!

The rest of the speech and a speech by Engels is from here: Karl Marx's Speech of November 29, 1847


"When Germany occupied that part of Poland, Jewish bands armed by the Soviets were killing Polish anti-communist partisans."


"After the Soviets re-occupied ("liberated" from the Germans) eastern Poland, many Jews who survived the Nazis, often by being hidden, fed or otherwise helped by the Poles, denounced them to the communists for imprisonment, torture and/or death. Together with the Soviets they hunted down Polish anti- communist partisans."


"After the rest of Poland was "liberated", Jewish communists, having spent the war in the shelter of the Soviet Union, established a reign of terror in Poland killing thousands of anti-communist Poles, including those who returned to Poland after fighting the Nazis with the Western allies.


This is what the Jewish Winston Churchill and the Jewish Roosevelt did for their friend Bernard Baruch:

"Many Austrians were deported, some returned, but others disappeared forever. And it was on Austrian soil, in the East Tyrol, that large numbers of Russians and Cossacks who had fought against communism were clubbed half dead, packed into box cars, and sent back as "unpatriotic traitors"...Many Russians were killed on the spot:...15 were killed trying to escape the train, six committed suicide,"... 12 Russian Generals were also on this train transferred to Russia occupied zone. Leftism Revisited, Von Kuenhelt-Leddihn, pg 287


It was the British that did these deeds. They sent Prisoners of War to certain deaths. Christian soldiers sent other Christians to their deaths by the hands of Atheists! This is what you get with Protestant Government Run by Jews.

This isn't all of it. That Allied Powers forceably turned over all Anti-communist forces fighting for Nazi Germany to Russia so that they can be liquidated. This was done by Europeans against Europeans for the sake of the Bernard Baruchs of this world. They are in control---not you.

Winston Churchill, Victor Rothschild, and Bernard Baruch are the real criminals of WWII.


"The Hell of Lienz was followed by the surrender of the Domobranci, the CATHOLIC Slovene Home Guard, which had protected Slovenes against the depredations of Tito's partizani. (Tito was a communist) Thousands upon Thousands were rounded up, shipped over the Karawanken Mountains, to be mowed down in masses, their corpses used as Natural fertilizers for the fields." (This is after the war!!!) Leftism Revisited, Von Kuenhelt-Leddihn, pg 287.


The real enemy as you can see is the Anti-Communist. That is the real enemy of the World! To be an Anti-Communist--is to be a true Christian and European!

This is what Jessica Mitford, the mentor of JK Rowling, went to Spain to fight--anti-communists.


The info of post 11.24.07 - 9:29 pm came from this site, Papurec. Click on "Polish History" on the Left sidebar.


You need to read the articles from Dr. Makow's site:

"In his book "Conjuring Hitler: How Britain and America Made the Third Reich", (2005) economic historian Guido Preparata demonstrates how the two World Wars essentially were traps designed by London-based central bankers to destroy Germany as a national entity.

As one diplomat said in 1914, "the web was spun and Germany entered it like a great buzzing fly."

From: Bankers Planned World Wars to Destroy Germany By Henry Makow Ph.D. August 3, 2007

"The second most powerful man in Nazi Germany, Martin Bormann, was a "Soviet" (i.e. Illuminati) agent who ensured the destruction of both Germany and European Jewry.

Thus, he advanced two of the Illuminati's main goals: integrate Germany into a world government by annihilating its national, cultural and racial pretensions, and establish Israel as a world capital by threatening European Jews with extermination.

From: Did Bormann Run Hitler for the Illuminati? By Henry Makow Ph.D. June 2, 2007

These are just some of the articles Dr. Makow's site. For a further list see http://www.henrymakow.com/archives.html


"Tito's rise was aided by Churchill,..." Leftism Revisited, pg 474 n1027.


And why do you think that Churchill aided Tito and not the Royalist partisan forces? Why would a "seemingly Western, Christianized man" be aiding Communists against Royalty?


"It must be clearly noted that this entire concept of Paul's is Platonic in nature. Even the resurrection of the physical body which appears in Jewish apocalyptic literature is rejected along with its strong nationalistic theme of the righteous (Jewish) ruling the unrighteous (Gentiles) in the world to come on this material earth." from Ehrlich, pg 280
I can't stress this enough. This paradigm of "Righteous Jew" ruling over "Unrighteous Gentile" is still active amongst the Jews. This is their drive. They are attempting to implement this by castrating European men by destroying their ruggedness, pushing decadent media and programing and de-racinating him. This is what is behind the Communist Ideology.

What is the Old Order?

The Old Order is European Culture, European Civilization.

What is the New Order?

The New Order is Internationist Jewish Bolshevism. The New Order is Multiculturalism, Liberalism, Jewish political correctness. It is the anti-bigotry, anti-racism campaign. This is what is being instituted is Jewish Civilization with a Jewish morality for gentiles. This is Communist Ideology.


I stopped researching on Nazism because I was getting sick to my stomach. The more I look into communism, the sicker I become. It is becoming nauseating.

The nitwit thinking that goes on, and the deaths that happen because of this thinking--never concerns these people. They don't care HOW MANY people they mow down to get what they want. They think nothing about the consequences of their thoughts. I just find more information that is just mind-boggling:

"Imperialism has developed the productive forces of world capitalism to a very high degree. It has completed the creation of the all the material prerequisites for the socialist organization of society. Imperialist wars show that the productive forces of the world economy have outgrown the limits of the imperialist State and require the economy to be organized on an international scale embracing the whole world. Imperialism seeks to resolve this contradiction by paving the way with fire and sword for a single state-capitalist world trust which will organize the entire world economy.


And get this:
"Imperialist wars, on the other hand, growing into World Wars."


I mean you can read the whole American Neocon agenda in those words! I mean you can read that paragraph and see the Iraq war in it and the reasons for it. You have Norman Podhertz clamoring for WWIV! Where did WWIII go? These people think nothing but killing killing and more killing.

The deeper I go--the more I get sick. It is getting downright disgusting.

Quotes taken from The Communist International, 1919-1943: Documents By Communist International, Jane Degras, Royal Institute of International Affairs, pg 480.


What is the "Socialist organization of Society"?

It is really the Jewish organization of Society. And why is there such a thing as the "Christian Social Democrat party, I will never more. This is right up there with the best of the oxymorons.


On another November haloscan, I am now attacked as a Jesuit which I am not, but wouldn't mind being, seeing that the Jesuits were once the intellectual powerhouses of the Catholic Church.

I quote Fr. Seraphim Rose, a traditionalist Russian Orthodox Monk. Traditionalist Russian Orthodoxy has NOTHING to do with the Jesuits, but Fr. Seraphim Rose does say the same thing that I am saying:

"...how a politics that rejects Christian Truth must acknowledge "the People" as sovereign and understand authority as proceeding from below upwards, in a formally "egalitarian" society." Nihilism, The Root of the Revolution in the Modern Age, pg 28
Notice that the so-called American experiment itself declares that "Authority" proceeds from the "people". It is the same with Nazism, Communism, Libertarianism, Liberalism.

Now, here comes the kicker:
"It is clear that ton is the perfect inversion of the other; for they are opposed in their conceptions both of the source and the of the end of government. Orthodox Christian Monarchy is government divinely established, and directed, ultimately, to the other world, government with the teaching of Christian Truth and the salvation of souls as its profoundest purpose. ibid

Here, what does Fr. Seraphim Rose, an Orthodox Monk, declare that is the purpose of Government?-----Care of the Soul. The Purpose of Government is to direct its population to the other World Government, i.e. the Kingdom of God.

Church and State work in harmony to accomplish this task. So to the charge that "Church and State" are some kind of Jesuit conspiracy or Christendom is the work of Satan---Fr. Seraphim Rose----Conclusively demolishes the argument.

Fr. Seraphim Rose continues:
"Nihilist Rule--whose most fitting name, as we shall see, IS Anarchy---government established by men, and directed solely to this world, government which has NO higher aim than earthly happiness!!! ibid
If this is not a condemnation of the "American Way" or of "Libertarianism", I don't know what is could be.

The Purpose of Government, i.e. Christendom, is the Care of Souls, The Salvation of Souls! The American Constitution is all directed to the "here and now"! It says that Government is by the people. In the days of Old--Government was divinely ordained by God who Christened a man to be king. Very Different.

All Kings of Christendom had Divine origins---which means that they all had Divine authority.

The so-called "Protestants" killed the kings that were set up BY God!

So NO---the Government purpose of "Care of Souls" is NOT Jesuit---but is Old Order thinking in both Catholicism and Orthodoxy!!!!!!!!!!!

The book can be ordered here:Nihilism, the Root of Revolution in the Modern Age


One of the greatest ills of mankind is thinking that we are all alike. That other men act like ourselves. I fall into this quite often to my own deteriment. As it is in the individual, so it is with groups, i.e. races, of men.

Many Christians, and I mean many, think that the Jews believe the same things as they do except they don't believe in Jesus Christ. There is a lot more than just that.

Jews DO NOT believe in Original Sin!

The saying

"All of history is theological"

is not off the mark. Original Sin is a teaching of Plato that preceded Christianity. Jews do NOT read Original sin in the book of Genesis. Where Christians see Original Sin in the soul of man. Jews think this is inherent in Creation PUT THERE by God Himself.

This basic fundamental concept is what drives Jewish Messianism and Tikkun Olam. Whereas Christianity teaches that Creation is good, and that Original Sin comes from Adam's volution and passed to his progeny, Jews think it is there by the work of God.
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Jews, since they are supra intelligent, don't believe a word of the Bible! To them the bible IS myth. Their supra intelligence kind of makes them into supra Atheists! What did I say, "Even good in the wrong proportions leads to evil"? Well, the Jews are tooo intelligent for their own good.
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Many Christians think that since Christianity came from the Jews that there is some sort of affinity between the two. But they are diameterically opposed. Many things in Christianity is NOT in Judiasm. Original sin being the one of the biggest!
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Which now brings me to the other point:

DIVINE REVELATION.

The Jew being not a metaphysician can't comprehend that Divine Revelation can immantize itself, i.e. become REAL, become Concrete! This is the Metaphysical divide which is practically impossible for them to cross.

For the Greek is not hard to understand since the Greek was a student of the Natural Order. For being students of the Natural Order, they saw that behind the concrete were metaphysical laws. The concrete physical reality was a manifestation of the metaphysical. That reality is a REVELATION of the Divine. So the Greeks, the Gentiles, have a concept, have the core of understanding that Divine Revelation can Immanitize itself!

Jesus Christ is the Immanitizing of the Divine.

It is said, ""we think of God as immanent in nature" is the Greek conception. The understanding that Divine Revelation can be made CONCRETE Physical reality. The Jews have NO concept of.

Which leads us to:


Which now leads us to consider the impact of this.

At the basis of ALL Reality is Theology. Reality stems FROM Theology; i.e. God Created Reality.

An incorrect Theology, which is the foundation of human thought, then leds to an incorrect idea of Reality. Mistakes in Theology leds to mistakes in Philosophy for it is Philosohy that is the go between theology and the Physical sciences. Philosophy is Metaphysics.

"And so we see Christ is the Creator, as is also stated by St. John the Evangelist: "In the beginning was the Word ... all things were made through Him and without Him was made nothing that was made" (John 1:1, 3). St. Paul teaches the same thing: "God ... created all things by Jesus Christ" (Eph. 3:9); "by Him (Christ) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him" (Col. 1:16).

Thus, in traditional Orthodox iconography of the creation we see not Michelangelo's old man (the Father) creating Adam (as in the fresco in the Sistine Chapel), but Christ. Of course, it is the Trinity as a whole that creates: the Father commands, the Son creates, and in a moment we will see the Spirit participating in this work, as he "moves" or "hovers" over the waters." from Fr. Seraphim Rose on The Six Days of Creation


Jesus Christ is the Core of all of this. The Jews negation and unrecognition of Jesus Christ is what makes them Nihilist.

Fr. Seraphim Rose writes:
"The Nihilist, to be sure, is in some sense "sick"..."
This echoes Plato saying the "Malady" of Atheism. Nihilism/Atheism is a sickness.

And what is the basis of Nihilism?

There is NO Absolute Truth.----Everything is Relative.

Truth is a Metaphysical question.
"The claim to any knowledge whatever---and no living man can refrain from this claim---implies a theory and standard of knowledge, and a notion of what is ultimately knowable and true. This ultimate truth, whether ti be conceived as the Christian God or simply as the ultimate coherence of things, is a METAPHYSICAL first principle, an absolute truth." Rose, Nihilism, pg 14


It is all a question of Theology. Communism is a Nihilist Creation. And this is why the Destruction of the Old Order is at the Heart of Communism.


"'Naive realism', or 'naturalism', does not precisely deny absolute truth, but rather makes absolute claims of its own that cannot be defended. Rejecting any "ideal" or "spiritual" absolute, it claims the absolute truth of "materialism" and "determinism". This philosophy is still current in some circles--it is official Marxist doctrine..." Rose, Nihilism, pg 14-15.

Materialism is Marxist philosophy. Materialism inherent in Jewish thought. Fr. Seraphim Rose continues that this materialism voids philosophy since it is determined, preordained.

Without true religion, and without absolute Truth, the absolute and the religiousity travels to another object like "race" for fascism, or the "Proletariat" for Communism.

Since Economic communism died out, it has become Cultural Marxism. Democracy is its carrier with political correctness being the absolute. Anti-bigotry and Anti-racism are Absolutes, material absolutes that must be carried out.

The reason why the things they are, are hidden from the Jew in his quest for his messianic mission. He doesn't care about how the world was made and why it is built a certain way. He is "blinded and astounded" to it.

The Jewish mission, materialistic, is about them re-ordering the world to their cares and situation. To their feelings of right and wrong. They have no belief in Original Sin, they have no belief in the Devil, they have no understanding of Jesus Christ and that there is hierarchy in the Trinity. Reality is a mirror of that Godhead which is yet One but diversified. They have a faulty theology married to prophecy that they seek to implement.

What should be directed to the metaphysical--they direct to the material. They absolute they seek is not put where it belongs---Jesus Christ---but in their own selves.

They are idolators. They worship themselves as the saviors of mankind. This is what communism is for them. This is the import of Cultural Marxism.


In this thread, Winston Churchill comes out a lot. He is the central character of WWII. His mother is Jewish. He was Chummy with Victor Rothschild and with Bernard Baruch.

Well, Pat Buchanan is coming out with a new book

Churchill, Hitler and "The Unnecessary War": How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World
This is should be a very interesting read.

Put it together with this book: Conjuring Hitler: How Britain and America Made the Third Reich, (2005) by economic historian Guido Preparata, and I think we have good enough grounds to understand that this whole thing WWII and the Holocaust was a massive deception and manipulation.


Jesus Christ is the Core of Reality. As is pointed out Jesus Christ is a duality; i.e. both fully God and fully Man. He is the center of reality and thru which all was made.

As it is in one part of reality, so goes the rest.

Is not man made in the Image of God? Is not man a duality? Is not man both Soul and Body?

Is not the family made in the Image of God? Is not the Family a duality? Is not the family composed of a Male and a Female?

Is not the Bible made in the Image of God? Is not the bible a duality? Is not the Bible split into Old Testament, New Testament?

Is not Christian doctrine made in the Image of God? Is not Christian doctrine a duality? Is it not split into Holy Tradition and Sacred Scripture?

Is not the Christian Church made in the image of God? Is not the Christian church a duality? Is it not split into Clergy and Laity?

Is not Christian Government made in the image of God? Is not Christian government a duality? Is it not "Church and State", two co-equal partners?

Is not Christendom made in the Image of God? Is not Christendom built on a duality? Is it not built on Divine Revelation and the Natural Law?

As you can see patterns and paradigms appear and reappear. Do they not point to a single source? And do not these seemingly opposites Harmonize? Is not Harmony the basis of the Cosmos? Does not a Harmony require two opposites for it to be? Is not a Family a Harmony between two opposites?

This is what Christendom looked like.

To the Greek, one is not used to the exclusion of the other. There is a Holy Tension between them all. A Push and Shove; A Give and a Take. That each has its proper shere and place. This is Greek/European thought. This is European modality. This is Christendom.


"All Excellencies exist in purity".


Is not God Excellent? Is God not Pure? Pure Goodness, Pure love.

Does not Truth have to be Pure? Truth can not mixed with impurity or falsehood!

Same thing with Logic or math!

The Excellence of Man, called Virtues--must they also be Pure? Manliness is Manliness. If it isn't pure, then it has some cowardice and then it isn't Manliness anymore.

Excellence is in the Purity!

What about Royalty? Doesn't Royal blood have to be pure? If it undergoes dilution, does the royalty remain royalty? NO.

Same thing with Aristocracy! In Spain, the word "Blue Blood" was coined.
"Blue blood is an English expression recorded since 1834 for noble birth or descent; it is a translation of the Spanish phrase sangre azul, which described the Spanish royal family and other high nobility who claimed to be 'pure', free of Moorish or Jewish blood, being of Visigothic descent." From Wikipedia

If Aristocracy is diluted--it no longer remains Aristocracy. Royalty and Aristocracy ONLY remain when there is Blue Blood!

What is the excellency of a Nation? There are three types of excellency, the spiritual, the metaphysical, and the physical. What is the excellency of the physical of a Nation?

Pure Blood! Pure Blood is the excellency of a Nation! Why would someone want second-best, or 'scrapings from the bottom of the pan'? You don't want to be 'excellent'? You don't want your children to be 'excellent'? Being a half-blood is a good thing? Being a Mongrel is a good thing?

I think not! Excellency is in the PURITY! The Excellence of National being is NOT found in being Mongrel---but in being Pure Blood! The Excellency of any breed is in its Pedigree! Is it not for Humans as well? Or are we not to seek for excellency? This is what communists and their ilk want from you--to become a Mongrel. That is NOT being Excellent!

Excellency only exists in its purity. The physical Excellence of a Race/Nation/Tribe is ONLY in its PURITY. (This has nothing to do with minorities living in the country! A Nation can have purity of its ethnic dominant group, and still have minorities in their enclaves who should ALSO be pure in their pedigrees!)

What is the Good? To be a Mongrel? Or to be Pure Blood? How is the Culture of the Race come to fruition if it is polluted, diluted and mongrelized? How can the ecosystem, i.e. the culture, of a specific ethnicity, come about if it has been mongrelized? What happens is that it is Stunted, and deformed! Being Stunted and Deformed is a good thing?


Karl Marx, a Jew, baptized Christian under faulty premises, the founder of political Communism, writer of the Communist Manifesto in 1848, wanted his revolution to happen in England and Germany first! He wanted violent Worker revolutions to carry the state and establish Rule of the Proletariat (workers).

This did NOT happen.

Antonio Gramsci was a Socialist Political Scientist. He was a communist. He wondered why the revolution didn't happen as Karl Marx predicted.

His answer---The Christian Culture of England and Germany prevented the Communist revolution!

What Antonio Gramsci discovered is that

"Culture defines Politics!"
Socrates and Plato said the same thing, but they weren't trying to undermine a culture but strengthen it.

Since it was the "Culture" that prevented the rise of the proletariat revolution, then the Culture had to be changed. Changing the Culture will be bringing about a Change in Politics.

The Government is NO different from the People that it represents.

Plato:
""Must we not acknowledge, I said, that in each of us there are the same principles and habits which there are in the state; and that from the individual they pass into the state?—how else can they come there?


The Bible says the same thing:
""As the judge of the people is himself, so are his officers; and what manner of man the ruler of the city is, such are all they that dwell therein."


It is a very simple maxim, The Whole is NO different from the Parts. Change the parts---you change the Whole.

Antonio Gramsci brought in another Strategy for Communism to succeed. Communism has Two Strategies, Violent Revolution OR "the slow transformation" the long walk thru the institutions.

What is going on now, is the transformation of society, you see it as "Cultural War". Well, cultural War is a manifestation of the Left seeking to undermine and then transform the society, the culture, in order to bring about their goverment.

The First part is 'Critical theory', the criticizing of aspects of that society. Another word for Critical Theory is "Deconstructionism". This is what is going on!

Christian culture is being replaced with Cultural Marxism! Political Correctness, anti-racism, anti-bigotry are all the New Teaching, the Communist morality that seeks to supplant the Old Order Morality and Conduct! It is about transforming Society.

Communism gets its job done either of two ways; Violent Revolution (armed force) or by Slow Revolution, (Cultural transformation). This was the difference between the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks wanted a Violent Revolution and the Mensheviks wanted a slow process.

Culture DOES DEFINE Politics! Change the Culture and inevitably, the Politics will change with it.

Here is the link for further information: Culture Defines Politics. This is the basis of Cultural War. Instead of guns---ideas, concepts, altered meanings are being used. This is part and parcel of Communist/Jewish Bolshevism.


Simple life forms exhibit simple blobs like amoeba. The higher life becomes, the more organized and complicated it becomes. Look at the DNA structure of Life. Very complicated, very structured. Societies are living organisms. Hence, simple societies, hunter-gather groups exhibit no heirarchy. As societies gather in sophistication, organization becomes paramount. All high societies exhibit stratification and caste system. It is natural.

Georges Dumezil in his study of European cultures found that Europeans order their societies in caste systems. Dumezil pointed this out easily in India where there are some nine castes.

Ancient Anglo-Saxon society was no different. English society was divided into three, groups, orders, and/or estates: these were the oratores, those who pray; bellatores, those who fight; and laboratores, those who work. This created the mixed form of British Government called a Classical Republic or Commonwealth.

This style is common throughout all of European society. A caste of Serfs, a caste of religious, and a caste of nobility.

In America, this European sociology was seen in the Jim Crow laws where the European Americans divided their society from the Africans. This is normal.

When you listen to Max Shachtman, (posted in a previous post above) you can hear him say that his mission is to dismantle Jim Crow laws. This is the Jewish mission. What the Jew sees as his mission of Tikkun Olam, of fixing all the "oppression" of the world, he is really dismantling European society and mentalities. The Jew is destructive. He has no care for the European style of living.

Europeans think in "Trifunctionality". It is order which is a concomitmant of Beauty. They order their architecture, their art, their music, their societies around order. This the Jew does not understand. This the Jew doesn't care about and seeks to destroy in his Tikkun Olam. The Jew instead of being quiet and to himself, is busy agitating revolution whereever he goes.

What order is, is Righteousness. This is the meaning of Justice in the European/Christian/natural law. Everybody has a place and they are to keep their place. This is Justice. Not so for the Jew. The Jewish concept of Justice is not the same as the European concept of Justice. His is monomanical egalitarianism, a regression of man. Jewish idea of destroying traditional European societies is about regressing European man back into the Stone Age.

This is Jewish bolshevism seeks to do.


A further looking into Jewish Bolshevism is that one has to look at the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto.
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1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
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All these planks have been instituted in America. The two biggest ones--the income tax and the Federal Reserve, all were voted in, in 1913.


Josh:

St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, a see started by St. Peter, who probably learnt from the Apostles themselves, said,

"For where there is Christianity there cannot be Judiasm. For Christ is one, in whom every nation that believes, and every tongue confesses, is gathered unto God...all those have been blessed who were ordained to eternal life in Christ." quoted in Plato's Gift to Christianity, Ehrlich, pg 320.


Prof. Ehrlich writes:
"Further evidence of Christianity's Platonic basis is shown that in every important teaching of the Church it chose to uphold Platonism and reject Mosaic and Prophetic Judiasm." pg 394


Jewish Bolshevism and its prodigy Cultural Marxism is destructive. Is is that way because "Culture defines Politics" and the basis of Culture is Race.

Mr. Maurice Samuel) who wrote:

". . . we Jews, the destroyers, will remain the destroyer forever. . . nothing that the Gentiles will do will meet our needs and demands". from: Chapter 3 of Douglas Reed's anti-Zionist classic "Controversy of Zion"
Secondly, I point out Jacques Derrida, a Jew, known as the "Father of Deconstructionism".
""...deconstruction begins with the existentialist dictum that there is no transcendent meaning, that meaning is a human construction. Deconstructionists go on to show that the way meaning is constructed is through language. Who is the originator of this. From: Gene Veith, Modern Fascism, Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview.
Another author, has written on Cultural Marxism and its instrument, Critical Theory:

"The stuff we’ve been hearing about this morning – the radical feminism, the women’s studies departments, the gay studies departments, the black studies departments – all these things are branches of Critical Theory. What the Frankfurt School essentially does is draw on both Marx and Freud in the 1930s to create this theory called Critical Theory. The term is ingenious because you’re tempted to ask, "What is the theory?" The theory is to criticize. The theory is that the way to bring down Western culture and the capitalist order is not to lay down an alternative. They explicitly refuse to do that. They say it can’t be done, that we can’t imagine what a free society would look like (their definition of a free society). As long as we’re living under repression – the repression of a capitalistic economic order which creates (in their theory) the Freudian condition, the conditions that Freud describes in individuals of repression – we can’t even imagine it. What Critical Theory is about is simply criticizing. It calls for the most destructive criticism possible, in every possible way, designed to bring the current order down. And, of course, when we hear from the feminists that the whole of society is just out to get women and so on, that kind of criticism is a derivative of Critical Theory. It is all coming from the 1930s, not the 1960s. from: The Origins of Political Correctness An Accuracy in Academia Address by Bill Lind
This sentiment of Destruction is in the Jewish psyche and this has become politicized in a political movement called Jewish Bolshevism and into an ideology called Cultural Marxism. This is prevalent everywhere in Europe and America.


David Yeagley, a conservative Comanche Indian, has also observed this paradigm of deracination:

"There seems a studied effort to obliterate nationality. This is manifest in two major cultural dimensions of the West: sports and pageants. The members of sports teams and the individual women in beauty pageants, all demonstrate the craze to destroy nationality and race."


He goes on to note that "...some time ago noted the fact that national sports teams, particularly soccer teams, were characterized by foreigners on the team"; and that "that the beauty queens of different countries nowadays often are foreigners."

Our whole society is saturated with Cultural Marxism. We live in communist culture where all national existence, racial bonds, societal cohesion, are being obliterated.

Dr. Yeagley remarks,
"Race-mixing is very much a part of the modern world,...
Race-mixing is the norm--because we all have been socially conditioned this way. WWII and the Holocaust is used to further the agenda and give it legitimacy.

Notice the word "Modern"? Modern is a code word for Marxism. We live in a Marxist world, in a Marxist culture and in a Marxist civilization. It is no wonder then, that race-mixing is ubiquitous, condoned and often encouraged. This is a sign of Jewish Power and the amount of influence they have.

Dr. Yeagley's fabulous article is here: Sporting With Race By Dr. David Yeagley. Dr. Yeagley is right on in his observations and conclusions; God created nations, why are we deconstructing them?


The argument is that the Russian Revolution was totally Atheistic. That the Russian Revolution was against religion.

Practically 95% of all Christian churches, monasteries, convents were destroyed in the Russian Revolution.

Did you know that NOT one Jewish synagogue was touched? Not ONE Synagogue was so much as vandalized during the Russian Revolution!

What does that say? What does that tell you? And when you hear people say that the Jews had nothing to do with the Russian Revolution, is that not a lie?


In an address to the U.S. Senate on 2/17/1950, Paul Warburg, member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the architect of the Federal Reserve System in America, had this to say:

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
Mr. Warburg is a Jew. The Council on Foreign Relations is about establishing One World Government. The necessary achievement for this is the destruction of the Old Order.

Paul Warburg in America and his brother Max Warburg in Germany colluded in sending Lenin into Russia aboard a sealed train. It is my belief that it was the collusion between the Warburgs, Bernard Baruch, and Winston Churchill that led to the purposeful start of WWI and then WWII---All in the name of destroying the Old Order for the sake of establishing One World Government.

You can't establish One World Government with races/tribes/nations/ethnicities. These all must be deconstructed, i.e. Culture defines Politics, in order to bring about One World Government.


On the score of the European trait of Trifunctionality, Europeans do things in Three. It is inherent in their character. From the Trisagion Hymn in the Greek Orthodox Church to the thrice sung Kyrie in the Roman Catholic Church, from the three major orders of the Christian clergy to the Trinity, Europeans do things in threes, instinctively.

What is the basis of European social thought; it is this:

"Dio, Patria, Famiglia."
Translated as "God, Fatherland, Family". This is what is important to an European. And these three are interconnected. God is Three; Fatherland is Three, Monarchy, Aristocracy, Commons; Family is Three, Father, Mother, Child. Fatherland, or Race comes from God as does the Family. All three are family.

The German Classicist, Prof. Karl Otfried Mueller, wrote that "What the Dorians endeavored to obtain in a state was good order, or cosmos, the regular combination of different elements."

What the Doric Greeks observed in the Natural Order is that all things in the cosmos are "combined of different elements that fit each other". A Family is One, yet made of three different things, a Male, a Female. The Trinity is a composite of different elements (Not substances); i.e. a Father, Son, and Spirit.

The same with a Nation or a Race. Inherent in it is a Royal Family, an Aristocracy, an assemblege of commoners and others. Just like a cell is composed of nucleus, mitochondria, etc; just like the body is composed of organs, muscle, and skeleton, Human society is also should be composed of different elements. This is heart and soul of European societies; the regular combination of different elements.

What Socialism, Bolshevism seek to do, is to get rid of all particularism; of a synoecism where all differences disappear. This is not the Greek/European way. The European way is to combine things together, like it is in the institution of the family, put they don't lose their particularism. A Woman remains a female in the family, she doesn't become a man. The more feminine a woman is in the family, the more the family is stable.

Different elements combine without losing their identity.

This is Traditional European society. This is Christendom. Christendom is based on this trinitarian formula:
"God, Fatherland, Family"


(This was posted on another Haloscan and am re-posting it here.) What is European Culture?

I wrote an article to the best of my ability on Wikinfo: Western Culture.

What is Western Culture? It is the Love of Beauty. Western culture is the Love of Sophia (Wisdom). It is about Beautiful music, Classical, it is about beautiful Architecture that incorporates Symmetry, Proportion, and Harmony. It is about the inclusion of the Golden Mean in Art, i.e. 1.6 ratio. It is about Order, a concommitmant of Beauty.

Western culture is based on the "Beauty, Truth, Goodness". It is about "Throne and Altar". Western Culture is in the majesty and pageantry of Royalty, the Aristocracy and the Roman Catholic Church. It is the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace. It is the White Smoke at the Vatican. Western culture is about the beautiful art and architecture of Europe. Western Culture is about Agrarianism, the Spanish saying:

Erik Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn writes that the perfect Roman Catholic "programme" is the Spanish saying:
Tener un hijo
Plantar un arbol
Escribir un libro
("To have a son, to plant a tree, to write a book") is the perfect "reactionary" pattern; a synthesis of patriarchalism, agriculture and artistry.

It is the German saying:

""Schaffen, Sparen, Haüschen Bauen". (Work, save, a little house build)


This is all of Western Culture where Hillaire Belloc wrote, "The Faith is Europe and Europe the Faith". Western Culture is about Duty, Loyalty, Patriotism. Western Culture is about fidelity to one's Monarch, to the Church and his Savior Jesus Christ.

The encapsulation of Western Culture is the Boy Scout oath:
"On My Honor, I will Do My Best(Arete), to do My Duty To God and My country"
That is Western Culture!

This is all what the European wants intrinsically. Notice the sayings from the two different countries, Spain and Germany. Notice the Trifunctionality. Notice the Triad.

Add to the above, "God, Fatherland, and Family". This is Western Culture.


Forgot to link information.

The first quote from Warburg comes from a Youtube infomercial: North American Union and Vchip Truth. This video points out the conspiracy; the manufacturing of the North American Union, the European Union, the African Union, the Asian Union. What was the Bolshevist Revolution called, "The Union of Soviet Republics". It is all about "Union", or "United" as in the case of the United States and the United Nations.

Is the conspiracy becoming clear?

The quote "God, Fatherland, Family" comes from a rightist party slogan in Italy, the FN, or the Forza Nuova, here at: Benito Mussolini is once again the poster boy of Italian politics, says Robert Fox.


Thomas Sowell wrote in a column "Is money's influence less now?" of Dec 7, 2007:

"The culture of the this nation is being dismantled brick by brick, but so gradually that many will not notice until the walls start to sag--just before they cave in."
This is called "Incrementalism". It is a gradual process where it is imperciptible. Aristotle noticed this a long time ago;
""People do not easily change, but love their own ancient customs; and it is by small degrees only that one thing takes the place of another; so that the ancient laws will remain, while the power will be in the hands of those who have brought about a revolution in the state."
This is called Revolution within the form. Interesting in that the coiner of the phrase, 'Revolution within the form', was Garett Garrett whose was befriended by Bernard Baruch. (source: Who is Garet Garrett

This method of incrementalism is the purpose of the Fabian Society. The Fabian Society is a Socialist organization for the slow transformation of the culture into the New World Order. Winston Churchill was friends with this society:
"Churchill had fallen under the spell of the Fabian Society, and its leaders Beatrice and Sidney Webb, who more than any other group, are responsible for the decline of British society." (from The Real Churchill)
Western culture is being deconstructed, and Multiculturalism is rising in its place, laying the groundwork for the United Nations, with the North American Union, the European Union, etc.

This incrementalism is one form of Communist methodology.


I want to point out the sociological implications of these two sayings.

"Tener un hijo,
Plantar un arbol,
Escribir un libro".

"Schaffen, Sparen, Haüschen Bauen".

See these two sayings tell you where the mind of the European is at. He is concentrating on ENJOYING life. Not in a playboy way, but the simple peasant pleasures of life. Both just seek the raising of a family. This is the mindset of most Europeans.

And this is why the Europeans are being led by the Jew. The Jew on the other hand has a "mission". Do you see a "mission" in those two European statements? Do you see progressive or revolutionary traits in those sayings? NO and NO. These two sayings are heartfelt sentiments, tradition and culture of Europe.

On the other hand, the Jew is ON a mission. Not only is the Jew on a mission that is progressive and semitic/Eastern, the Jew is on a Power Trip. He is fulfilling his scripture to Rule the Gentile. He has an Ulterior motive in the World. It is not beneficial. The Jew has no need to "plant a tree" or "build a house". It is about Rule and Power.

As was said earlier, the European idea of Justice is not the Jewish idea and the European idea of life is not the Jewish idea of life. This crap that all people are the same is just a smokescreen. Europeans are fooled that the Jew is just like him---and he isn't. There are racial differences and these make for Cultural differences--and then Political differences. There are differences. This tolerance propaganda is the swan song of death for Europe.


Two different authors have come out and labelled Churchill a war criminal.

Adam Young's "The Real Churchill"

Ralph Raico's "Rethinking Churchill." Excerpts from In The Costs of War: America's Pyrrhic Victories..

Winston Churchill worked mightly for the cause of both WWI and WWII. He wanted the United States of Europe, didn't he? Didn't Woodrow Wilson want the "League of Nations'? Didn't Franklin Roosevel want the United Nations?

These two world wars was about destroying Germany, destroying the Old Order to bring about a New Order in Europe!


Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel, seemed to have remarkable prescience. Invited in 1962 to predict what the world would be like in 25 years' time, he wrote:

"The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: the Cold War will be a thing of the past. Internal pressure of the constantly growing intelligensia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure of the masses for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of the Soviet Union. On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and farmers, and rising political importance of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a Socialist and democratic regime. With the exception of the USSR as a federated Eurasian state, all other continents will become united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished, and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the scene of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah. Higher education will be the right of every person in the world. A pill to prevent pregnanacy will slow down the explosive natural increase in China and India. And by 1987, the average life-span of man will reach 100 years." LOOK magazine, Jan. 16, 1962
All politics swirl around this. Combine this with the quote of Paul Warburg mentioned previously and the picture is that communism is Jewish Bolshevism and that its goal is the establishment of one world government by de-racinating.

The above quote is taken from Building the Third Temple: and demolishing the Dome of the Rock Peter Myers, September 12, 2001; update June 3, 2004.


Ben-Ami Shillony, The Jews and the Japanese: the Successful Outsiders, Charles E. Tuttle Company, Rutland, Vermont, 1991.

"While the Jews have developed much of the "software" of Western civilization: great philosophical constructs, new theories, and revolutionary ideologies,... (pg 224)

Whereas ... the Jews sought to revise, redraw, and replace the basic tenets of the West. (pg 64)
The Jews have written the software for the "West"? Jews sought to revise and replace the basic tenets of the West?

Ben-Ami Shillony is an Israeli Jew. In his book, he advocates a Japanese-Jew partnership.

And you can look at the early comments targeted against me as a kook. Yet, you run across statements like this and you question who is the kook. The Jews have NO place in Western Culture except in a ghetto quarantined.

It is also obvious that nothing today is "Western"; it is all Jewish.

Western Culture has to be re-constituted.

Thanks for the above quotations goes to Peter Meyers at Jews and Japan


Earlier in this thread, I mentioned the peculiar thread of the destruction of monarchies and the substitution of those monarchies with Jews in the leadership position.

Next, I pointed out the European mentality of "enjoying life".

And I pointed out that the Jew needs to get the monarchies out of the way and their need for power. Well, Mr. Ben Ami provides the reference:

"{p. 32} Yet quite often peace implies domination, and in many languages the word "pacify" also means "conquer". King Solomon could afford to be a king of peace because he ruled "over all the kings from the Euphrates to the land of the Philistines, and to the border of Egypt."

And
"The Jews ... were always inspired by the belief that in the future world of peace and justice they would serve as spiritual leaders {i.e. rulers}. This vision of a world mission gave them the strength to suffer severe persecution and propelled them to the forefront of various messianic and "idealistic" movements in modern times like those of human rights, socialism, and communism.
This is the Jewish mission. As you can see Mr. Ben Ami uses the word "mission" himself. It is a World Mission. It is about 'fixing the world' and that the Jew will rule the Gentile.

Getting rid of Monarchies. That was the Russian revolution, WWI, the Spanish Revolution.

Then, it is about De-racination. It is about effeminizing Western man and de-racinating him. This is International Socialism or Jewish Bolshevism.

JK Rowling's book is what one calls "Modern" literature. It is Marxist literature. It is about spreading this de-racination idea to all the people of the West in furtherance of the Jewish mission.


Well, from the horse's mouth comes this gem:

"... if Christianity is to continue to exist and function, it must come down to this earth, it must begin to concern itself about man, it must concern itself more about morality than about immortality, it must seek the Kingdom of Heaven right here on this earth, and to be enjoyed by men while they live right here. This means the abolition of exploitation, oppression, degradation and inhumanity. The Jews should welcome this revolution in the Christian world, and the Jews should show an example. It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism; all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews. The Jews should realize that Jehovah no longer dwells in heaven, but he dwells in us right here on earth; we must no longer look up to Jehovah as above us and outside of us, but we must see him right within us. ... from Rabbi Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews, An Answer to all Anti-Semites, A Program for Humanity, Committed for the Preservation of the Jews, NewYork 1939. pg 148
What a whopper of a revelation!! And this just counterdicts all of my detractors on this thread.

What he is saying is that Christianity must end being a "metaphysical" religion and start being a "force upon the earth". He is openly advocating that the Church be Judiazed. Jesus purposely set the Church on a NEW standard, that of Hellenization, of metaphysicalness. Jesus said, that his religion would be based on "Spirit and Truth". 'Spirit and Truth' are Metaphysics.

The Kingdom of Heaven is ON this Earth!!! is a total rejection of Christianity.

St. Ignatius, 90 AD, that said that
"For where there is Christianity there cannot be Judiasm." quoted in Plato's Gift to Christianity, Ehrlich, pg 320
Christianity is about Immortality of the Soul in the Hereafter!

Rabbi Waton then points out the "ending of oppression". Yes, in whose eyes? Semitic eyes or European eyes? The "ending of Oppresion" is about ending the rule of the Church in European society. It is about ending the rule of Europeans in the world and replacing it with the Rule of the Jews and the Religion of Noahides for Gentiles!


"That Judaism gave birth to Marxism".

That is right! What is hated by all and sundry is the "anti-communist". The Anti-Communist is exactly---anti-juden!

This is the enemy people!

And what about Peace on Earth? Karl Marx said,
"Peace is the absence of resistance to Socialism"
Let me put that in simple layman's terms. "Peace is when there is NO resistance to Judiazing". Peace is the destruction of the West, of Christendom, of Christianity, of Western Culture! Peace is when all Anti-communists are dead! That is the Jewish definition of Peace! Cultural Marxism/Political Correctness is Jewish! All resistance must be towards Jews anywhere in positions of influence; Resistance given to Zionism; and Resistance to the stupid Christian Zionists, to the John Hagees of this world!

The Jews MUST be quarantined. It is either they come for me, or me them! Europeans must start waking up!


The quote of Rabbi Waton is from Peter Meyer's site: Rabbi Harry Waton: the difference between Judaism and all other religions...why Christians must become Jews again.

It is time to fight back!


Now is the time to quote Thomas Freidman. Thomas Freidman is a Jew and a Globalist. He walks the corridors of power and has huge influence. Here is his quote:

""For globalism to work, America cannot be afraid to act like the almighty superpower that it is...The hidden hand of the market will never work without the hidden fist--McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonald-Douglas, the designer of the F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley technologies is called the United States Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps." (NYTs March 28, 1999)
Is this why I served in the Military?---to be the "hidden fist" of a hidden secret conspiracy? Thomas L. Friedman made this remark on the War in Kosovo where Slobadan Milosevic was charged with being a "Hitler" and that General Wesley Clark, General of the Air War over Kosovo, declared that
"There is no more room for 'ethnically pure' states".
Our elites and a conspiracy seek to undermine everything that is of the West and of Christianity; Open borders, Free Trade, Free everything, Wars in the Middle East.

I find this all disgusting. I am sick to my stomach.


I found the article in the Enquirer about Dizzy Warren's Healing of Racism.

"Warren said an "educators alliance" has been joined by every public school in the Battle Creek area, all Christian and Catholic Schools, the Calhoun Intermediate School District, Kellogg Community College and Miller College"

Notice that every school including Christian schools are on this Jewish Bolshevism agenda. Aren't you glad to see how stupid Europeans are--committing suicide and the Church is participating!

The plan calls for:

(1) Getting schol districts prepared to train internal trainers int eh National REsource Center's two-day Healing Racisnm seminars on an on-going basis, and to provide semiars for all teachers, staff and parents.

(2) Creating or enhancing youth diversity initiatives within each school district and holding an area-wide event to increase the discussion of diversity.

(3) Appointing at least two people with direct access to the superintendent and decision making power to the new "educators alliance", signifying each district's commitment to diversity initiatives.

"This is pioneering stuff", Durham said. "Because it's not only having reps from the schools be trained to work within their own schools, but in order to bring back the effectiveness of diversity, we know that we need a core group of facilitators that are diverse that can actually conduct the two-day Healing Racism workshops".

"The Marshall Chamber of Commerce has agreed to host a meeting of all county chambers of commerce to get them to collectively agree to institute Healing Racism training among their members," Warren said. "Then we'll have the foundation to work with them to create the business-retail response to structural racism". Quoted from the Battle Creek Enquirer, Oct. 4, 2007.
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This is Cultural Marxism. This is Jewish Bolshevism. This is the destruction of the European Character of America and of the West. Indoctrination of children into Marxist/Jewish ideology, of de-racination policies of the New World Order Crowd---and Christian Schools are also participating in this fraud.

Isn't it great---Commit Suicide. And the East Asian Columnist "Spengler" talks about people having a suicide death wish--speaking specifically about Europeans!

The Kellogg Foundation is funding this to the tune of $900,000 this year. As you can see everybody is involved. Since October 4, not one letter to the editor questioning this practice. There were NO editorials on this policy good or bad. No discussion. No debate. Just Acceptance by everybody.


In writing on this thread, I started out on one thing which led to another which led to another.

But now, there is a bigger picture emerging. In the next to last posts, something is emerging. A picture. What is really going on. It began with a single tidbit from Tom Todd on his experience on the American staff at the Nuremberg Trials. It got larger with the knowledge that Winston Churchill's mother is Jewish and then that Churchill, Roosevelt were both tight with Bernard Baruch.

This thread is now taking another turn, what is really happening. On another Haloscan that touched on the emerging US doctrine on kidnapping, that we don't live in Western Culture or in Western Civilization anymore.

What is emerging is the transformation of the West into Jewish Culture and Jewish Civilization. The West is being Judiaized.

Future posts here will now elaborate on this theme. That now the picture is being very clear and that it will put the beginning of my entrance on this thread, "The Cultural Marxism in Harry Potter" into context. Harry Potter is "Modern" literature. What is "Modern"? That it is Jewish and not Western Literature.

The Harry Potter series is just one dot of the whole matrix out there. It is one piece of the puzzle. The puzzle is that we live in Jewish Culture and in Jewish Civilization.

The thread is not changing course, but growing in dimension.


Why are Europeans hoodwinked?

Because natural rightist Europeans are not "on" an agenda. We don't have an "agenda". All a true rightist European wants to do is:

"Tener un hijo,
Plantar un arbol,
Escribir un libro".

"Schaffen, Sparen, Haüschen Bauen".

"Dio, Patria, Famiglia".

A friend writes to me:

"To me it was a shame that the Greeks, especially Plato, were not followed more closely by the west: then we would have taught that life on earth is beautiful and to be fully enjoyed, but simply not so beautiful that it is our final home. To enjoy the totality of our being (mind, spirit, and body) is to bring us the harmony that God had intended so that both our temporal and eternal existences would supplement and enhance the beauty of both. I mentioned Pope's poem and the phrase "to enjoy is to obey".

"To diminish either blessing, material or spiritual, is to rebel against the goodness of God.
Obedience is to enjoy, and praise is simply saying "Thank You."


"To enjoy life". That is what God created us for. This physical life is good, but it is corrupted.

Christianity teaches that a better life awaits--one where we will be resurrected like our God, Jesus Christ, our bodies will be restored to us--without corruption, and we will enjoy the company and relationship with God on a New Heaven and a New Earth.

The Christian mission is to "Save Souls". That the promise of a better life is in the hereafter, but to get there---one must be washed from sin. Sin cannot approach God.

Salvation is important. Without the redeeming waters of baptism, it is impossible to reach. But life we will have again if we are saved and born again--in the waters of baptism.

Human beings are both Earth and Spirit. We are to enjoy both, neither to the exclusion of the other. The Earth is good, but the real value is Heaven; the Beautific Vision of God who is Pure Beauty, Pure Truth, Pure Goodness.

In this regard, Europeans are into "Enjoying Life".

On the other hand, the Jew has nefarious designs. His mission is to "redraw", "redesign", "re-order" Western Culture. The Jew has a Worldly mission by putting all people under his feet. He is manipulating, socially conditioning, Europeans; effeminizing, de-racinating, superficializing.

Europeans are being molded into something they are not. Europeans are becoming Judiaized because the Culture is Jewish!

The European does not have an agenda so that disarms him. The effeminizing, the political correctness and the superficiality of the culture is blinding the European to his death. And naturally, a European has no agenda. This leads him to be led by others who have an agenda.


The term "judeo-Christian" is about changing the West. This term is a foundational phrase---meaning it is about restructuring, redrawing, revising the West. "Judeo-Christianity" is was created, is being used to undermine the West. It is about transforming the Christian West. It is about Judiazing the West. "Judeo-Christianity" is a psy-war word. It is about transplanting concepts that have no place in Western Culture. It is about changing the mental climate of the West.

No true Christian should ever use the word "judeo-Christianity". There is NO such thing. Refuse to use it. Condemn it when others use this phrase and attack it at all times.


"“The white race is the cancer of human history.” Susan Sontag’s words of 1967 express the central idea of the age that we live in." from: The Inverted World
By The Realist • 12/10/06

Susan Sontag is Jewish.

Now, connect this with Dr. David Yeagley's comment:
"There seems a studied effort to obliterate nationality."
The Realist recognizes that all sorts of minorites are allowed to be racist and have racism---but it is forbidden for the Europeans to be racist or to have racism.

Why is that?

The Realist points to the origin of this myth:
"There is no better illustration of the impact of the Holocaust on the West’s image of itself than the ideas of Theodor W. Adorno. Born in 1903, this philosopher and social thinker was the leading figure in the influential Frankfurt School, a group of scholars associated with the Institute for Social Research, which used the ideas of Marx, Weber, and Freud as a basis for a critique of capitalism. Although the institute had been founded in Frankfurt, it relocated to the US during the Nazi years because all of the scholars associated with it were of Jewish descent. The works of Adorno that I discuss in this article were products of his American years."
Theodore Adorno is Jewish. The Frankfurt School is Jewish. And so what is Adorno's conclusion of why of the Holocaust?
"Adorno’s work was an obsessive search for the roots of fascism, and everything was suspected: capitalism first and foremost, of course, but also science, popular songs, films, patriotism, and white racial identity. For Adorno, the Holocaust was the natural outcome of the basic forces underlying Western culture and expressed their essence. As he indicated in his famous 1967 remark, “to write poetry after Auschwitz is barbaric,” Adorno believed that the Holocaust required the ethical person to reject Western culture entirely."
This man is a total idiot! For instance, I ask you what does "NAZI" stand for? It stands for "National Socialist Workers Party". Who created "Socialism"?

The Jews!

So the barbarity of Fascism is the natural outcome of the basic forces underlying Western culture and expressed their essence?

What stupidity!

Eric von Kuenhelt-Leddihn quotes Hermann Rauschning who heard Hitler say of himself that:
"(He is) the conqueror but also the executor of Marxism---of that part that is essential and justified, stripped of its Jewish-Talmudic dogma." Leftism Revisited, pg 158
Adolf Hitler grew up in Vienna watching the revolution of the Social Democrats, i.e. the Mensheviks, the soft communists. He was in Bavaria watching Kurt Eisner destroying a Catholic Monarch and taking the reigns of power to establish a Soviet Republic.

To say that Fascism is the "the natural outcome of the basic forces underlying Western culture and expressed their essence" is absolutely ludicrious!!! Fascism is the Hegelian dialectic of Communism! Fascism in part is Jewish inspired!!!!

Second, I think that I have touched on enough, is that the Jews brought on WWII! Winston Churchill, Bernard Baruch, the Warburgs, all conspired to bring this on. The gall of this Adorno idiot to claim that Fascism is of Western essence---is just the greatest lie on earth! WWII was purposely instigated.

Third, we are listening to a Jew write about history that his people in a part caused. Why do we listen to people who have an agenda? Why do we listen to people who are "blinded and astounded" (as the Bible teaches in Deuteronomy ch. 28)? Instead of listening to Christians such as Eric Von Kuenhelt-Leddihn, our intelligentsia, Academia are listening to the likes of Adornos.

Fourth, Adorno points out it was "white racial identity" that caused the rise of Fascism. Why would Europeans be concerned with "white racial identity" if it weren't for Jewish Bolshevism teaching de-racination ideology in the first place?

This Theodore Adorno is so full of BS. This man is about full of it. The man is blind and deceived---yet it is people like him that drive our culture today. It is Theodore Adorno, the Jew, that has power, because his fellow Jews in the Media and in Academia make it like that. This is all very disgusting. This is all so stupid.

The rest on Adorno's work: Origin of the Myth of Whites as a Cancer.


What is One of the Central Aspects of Western Culture?

Duty.

What is Duty?

Duty is Sacrifice. Duty is an inherent Western Cultural trait. What marks the East and Eastern Peoples is Self-centeredness; business is part and parcel of that. Business was founded in the East; in the Fertile Cresent.

What is the major motiff of Western Culture is the Crucifix where Jesus Died on the Cross--for all of mankind. It is a Sacrifice---but it is also God's Duty toward Mankind.

In a way, Duty is outward looking. It is not narcissitic. What marks the Greeks, especially the Doric Greeks is their Manliness, their Masculinity and how that culture was centered around Man being a Man. In a Masculine Culture, true men have an outward look. It is about him looking out and finding someplace where he must do his duty to his God and his Country. Doing 'duty' is not self-serving---but self-sacrificing. Duty is hardship and pain. And in some small way, when a man is doing his duty, he is sharing in the cosmic sacrifice of Jesus Christ. When a man is truly masculine, he is outward looking. A true man rushes to do his duty. A true man finds his fullfilment in doing his duty.

When a man becomes effeminant, he has no regard for duty but becomes narcissitic. When a man loses gravitas, then he becomes superficial; vain and he loses sight of Duty.

""The Communist Rules for Revolution was captured in Dusseldorf, Germany, in May 1919 by the Allied Forces. In part it states: "(A) Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness."
You can read the Death of the West in that statement. Making men "superficial" and destroying their ruggedness turns man into being SELF-centered.

Agrarianism, living in nature, makes a man rugged--hence manly. As a man is manly, he is more outward looking, he turns towards Duty. With a society full of narcissitic males, what happens? It self-deconstructs. A society dies. A society only survives on Sacrifice---on Duty. The Western Code of a Man begins
"On My Honor, I will Do My Best, To do My Duty, to God and my Country..."
Only in Western Culture, is there taught "Duty". Duty is a Public Responsibility. Duty is actions required, but not of physical or material demand---but demand of the Metaphysical. Duty is tied to the Metaphysical of Truth, Beauty, Goodness, and ultimately God. A Country, Nation, Race is a Metaphysical construct as well.

Duty requires Sacrifice. Duty is a Metaphysical construct. As the West has been dead, duty has disappeared. As an Eastern people, who are materialists, who are metaphysically crippled, gain, control and shape the culture in the West, Metaphysical ideas are dying out. The West is marked by the Metaphysical. Without the Metaphysical component, there is NO West.

When a majority of Western males are effeminized, and become metaphysically stunted, and are made puerile, the West dies. In order for the Jewish mission to succeed, Western Man must be puerile, effeminate, superficial, materialist (non-metaphysical) and de-racinated.


Notice: I never use the word "white"!

God did NOT seperate man into "color". God seperated man by language! That means that God seperated man by his Soul!

To use "color" is the easy, cheap, and very inaccurate way of classifying the different segments of mankind. It is very wrong to use "Color"!

I am a European First and Foremost of the Hellenic Race, of the Doric Tribe. This is how I describe myself. This is the proper, Christian, Old Order Way.

We are "Europeans" first and foremost! Using a "color" has NO connection to heritage, culture or history. But to say "Asian", "African", Semite, European, or South American, all have immediate meaning! They all have context. Using a "color" has no immediate meaning and many times Semites use "Color" to fit in and claim "we're white" so we are with you! Wrong.

Never use "color" as a racial designation. Always use one's Tribe or greater Tribe--but never "color".

Refuse and condemn the use of "color" as a racial designation.


Edith Hamilton was an American Classicist. She taught Greek and Latin for many years. She wrote one of the most popular books on the Greeks called The Greek Way. Here is what she said of the Greeks;

"To rejoice in life, to find the world beautiful and delightful to live in, was a mark of the Greek spirit which distinguished it from all else that had gone before. It is a vital distinction. The Joy of Life is written upon everything the Greeks left behind and they who leave it out of account fail to reckon with something that is of first importance in understanding how the Greek achievement came to pass in the world of antiquity. pg 23
The Greeks are the beginning of the Western World and Civilization. It was the Greeks that wrote the 'software' for Western Culture---not the Jews. This is at the core of Western Culture---this "Joy of Life", not the power trips of Semitic Hebrews.


In a confirmation of much in this thread, General Erich von Ludendorff, a famous German General of WWI, who joined Adolf Hitler in an abortive coup attempt in Weimar Germany after WWI, published a book in 1927 titled, The Destruction of Freemasonry through the Disclosure of its Secrets.

"He revealed that 'the secret of Freemasonry everywhere is---the Jew. The Freemasons were agents of the Jews; when they talked about their 'brothers in the society' they meant the Jews...when he converts to Christianity: 'a baptized Jew remains a Jew'. pg 230
Now, get this, earlier in this thread I talked that the reason of de-racination is so that the Jew can hide, be not distinguished. Well, Ludendorf beat me to it:
"The Jews were in favour of Liberty and Brotherhood because if they could persuade the Gentiles to believe in these ideals, then the Gentiles would grant liberty to the Jews frist to enter, and then to dominate, political and social life in every country of the world; and people who believed in brotherhood would welcome the Jews."
These quotes are the summaries of the British Historian Jasper Ridley in his book The Freemasons. If one thinks and reflects it is not to hard to know what the agenda is. I have never read Ludendorf's book until I read that review by Jasper Ridley but I was able to see the same thing and reach the same conclusions. Truth is Truth.


In 1931, one of the supporters of the National Socialist Workers Party, wrote under the psuedonym, Dr. Custos, an expose of Freemasonry with this title: Freemason, the World Vampire. It seems that the Nazi party then published its own book titled Freemasonry, the Road to Jewish World Domination.

Now, Jason Ridley riducles these attempts as "insanity". But I have begun reading one of Albert Pike's books and in it the Jewish Kabalah is everywhere. So no, there is a connection between Masonry and Judiasm. Where there is smoke there is fire and there is a connection between Masonry and the New World Order.


In The Freemasons, Jasper Ridley recounts:

"Quisling (the Germans appointed Major Vidkun Quisling to administer Norway under German occupation) had been an intelligence officer in Russia during the First World War, and later was Minister of Defense in the Norwegian government. He was filled with a deep hatred of Bolsheviks, Jews and Freemasons. He was convinced that the Jews and Freemasons were behind the Bolsheviks, and that only Adolf Hitler could lead the crusade to destroy Jewish masonic Bolshevism". (pg 237)
After the War, Quisling was shot by the Norwegian government and his name has become synonmous with being a traitor.

But I think Quisling is onto something very important. He was an Intelligence officer in Russia were Revolution erupted. He would have been privy to all sorts of reports, knew history, who was involved in current history to be an intelligence officer. He knew something---a lot of things. He is able to put two and two together. "Tolerance", or this anti-bigotry campaign is very very important--it is the key to the NWO, Jewish supremacy and it is taught by Freemasonry!

Jewish masonic Bolshevism. Adolf Hitler had the Freemasons thrown together with the Jews. There is a reason for that.


What country is Rowling from?

England.

What country has a huge Masonic influence!?!

England.

Where did Benjamin Disraeli and Karl Marx get their start in?

London, England.

Much of the Soveriegns of Catholic and Orthodox countries saw England as the seat of revolution in many cases. Edmund Burke, the great standard bearer of conservatism, was a Mason as was De Maistre.


A French Roman Catholic priest, working in Japan, wrote an anti-masonic text titled, Mimitsu Kessha (The Secret Society).

"It warned that Freemasonry was a movement which believed in absolute freedom and equality, and would therefore destroy any social system based on hierarchical authority." (pg 238)
In Ridley's book, the phrase "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" keep on popping up. I count it being used by Ridley four times as connected to Freemasonry. Albert Pike, who wrote a book on "Morals and Dogmas" of Freemasonry in 1850, also used this phrase. This phrase, "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" was used as the catalyst and motivator for the French Revolution. Masonry is hierarchical itself; yet it does teach subversive doctrines.


Generalismo Franco wrote another expository manuscript about Freemasonry under the psuedonym 'J. Boor', Masoneria. Jasper Ridley does acknowledge that Franco's attempt is "a little more rational" than Ludendorff's attempt.

"He pointed out that Communism, Freemasonry, and the Judiasm revealed in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, were three different phenomena. The Communists and the Freemasons were bitter enemies; the Communists were anti-capitalist and the Freemasons supported capitalism. But they had united against Spain..." (pg 242f)
The Spanish Civil War was a viscious affair. It was a revolution of republican forces against the forces of reaction. Jews, liberals, two brigades from America fought on the Repbulican side. The Republicans were communists, anti-hierarchical. Franco was a defender of the Church and the Throne.

There is a common theme amongst all of this and it is the Jews. Jews fomented the de-racination ideology of Communism. The Kabbalah is throughout Masonic literature. I have to finish Pike's book to see more clearly the impact of the Kabbalah.


On the contrary the West; the ruins of Christendom, owes its culture and freedoms to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and to the Jews who passed on this incalculable gift to us. Do not forget that they are Jesus' blood relatives.

As Europe has apostacized and the rest of the Anglo-sphere is following rapidly, the prior pagan beliefs, laws and customs are reasserting themselves -
with the three markers of ideological fascism:

The rejection of the concept of the transcendant objective, signified - that there is a creator God who can and has spoken,

The rejection of individual moral responsibility as both bourgouis and Jewish,

And the elevation of the group will to power as the sumum bonum (think feminism and queer theory, "Aryan" identity and black power)

Along with the sacrifice of babies to Molech///Mamon and the redivinization of the State.


No genuine regenerate Christian can be an anti-Semite (leaving aside cases clinical insanity)


If Labrialumn would read this thread from the beginning, his remarks would have been answered in earlier posts; for instance the "re-divinization" of the state is the effect of the destroying of the bi-polarness of Christendom of 'Throne and Altar'.

I was going to include other posts from Haloscan here but instead link to them. You will have to do the same thing; press Ctrl+F, type in 'wheeler', and find my posts.

This link: Hellenism and Christianity is about how Hellenism formed Christianity! Not Judiasm. There are many quotes there, esp. from Jerry Dell Ehrlich's book, Plato's Gift to Christianity. That "Transcendence" is a Greek trait not Jewish in a sense. The Materialism that Labrialumn in the previous post alludes to is Jewish, not European. Jews read the scriptures in a materialistic sense. Most activities of the Jews, i.e. Communism has for the basis of its philosophy---materialism, as does Libertarianism. This link has a bearing on the essential differences between Judiasm and Christianity. There is NO such thing as 'judeo-Christianity'.

The second link is Nurember Trials and the Jewish Century. This link is to prove this point in this thread that Western Culture has been transformed. We now live in Jewish Culture and in Jewish civilization. The West is Dead! is Caput! Everything from Law, music, architecture, literature, politics, foreign policy is Jewish. The Nuremberg Trials has no precedence in Western Civilization, it is totally a new creation, idea.

And in answer to Labrialumn, Jews are an Eastern people---not western. There should be a natural little enmity between the Eastern and Western. The West is not the East and the East is not the West. The East destroys West.


I want to go back to Generalismo Franco. Franco was a very effective general in fighting the revolutionary forces in Spain. He was there. He participated in the fighting. He was in the center of it all! Then, he witnessed WWII. He allowed some 50,000 Spaniards to participate on the Eastern Front with the German Wehrmacht.

On this subject of Masonry, here he is writing a book in 1952. Seven years after the War. He has plenty of time for reflection, to put his thoughts together, a head of state privy to intelligence reports and ambassador reports. Moreover, he is old school Catholic with a very discerning education and upbringing. His mental powers would have been finely tuned; also, he is standing on truth and the teachings of the Church. This would have enabled him to compare and contrast and find the errors and place of masonry on the world stage.

I have not read his book but his perspective ought to be huge and important. Someday I would look forward to it. I think his testimony speaks volumes of what is going on.


To bolster my thesis in this Haloscan thread, I point to the cover of Jasper Ridley's book itself! The title is The Freemasons, A History of the World's Most Powerful Secret Society.

First off, nowhere does Mr. Ridley point out in the book why it is "powerfull". He goes out of his way to say Masonry is innocuous but has this adjective, "Most Powerful", to describe Masonry. Why din't he say, the "Most Misunderstood" Secret Society because that is the content of the book. But why is it the most powerful----He doesn't say. He only scantily mentions in quips the actual teachings or morals of the society. His is a history book on events and personages but there is no philosophical or religious understanding, or exposition of Masonry.

But what does the cover have?

A painting of "The Tower of Babel" by Pieter Brueghel. In the myths of Freemasonry, they say of themselves that they were the builders of Tower of Babel! In the picture, the back cover of Ridley's book says,

"...and Freemasons' Lodges are shown at the foot of the altar."
The cover makes the case for the title that the contents don't fit. But this British author or his publishing company did put the Tower of Babel on the cover. The Tower of Babel that God Destroyed.

Many of the critics of masonry have pointed this out. The ideals of Masonry, its following of Jewish mysticism, and strict Jewish monotheism, its tolerance, the principle of Universal brotherhood, does lay out the pyschological and philosophical framework for One World Government.


I meant to type "foot of the building".


VD, I listened to the podcast of the interview of Jonah Goldberg linked in the first post of this thread.

I think you have made some egregious errors in your thumping praise of his book and calling him 'an intellectual giant'. After listening to that eyepoppin' interview, made me dig a little deeper into this guy.

First off, the Bloomin' man went to a WOMAN'S College! That's sick. Really sick.

"his development into a significant intellectual figure of the future on the American right.
This is the background of a significant figure of the American right---a bloody effeminate that thinks that he ought to become one of the first members of a once ALL Woman's College?

I entered the F#%!@#$ Marine Corps---This man entered a Woman's college?

There is something way twisted in this man's mind. That a man, any man, would consider going to Solely Womans' college---why so he could get laid more often?

This is a man of intellect that we all must bow down and follow? I suppose we are supposed to seperate a man from his character. This is Unbelievable. I would have NOTHING to do with this sick turkey.

Jonah Goldberg a Man that goes to a Woman's College!

The first rule of being on the Right---is being a F#@%#@$% MAN. What bloomin' man goes to a Woman's college for an education? How can one speak on Conservatism---when goes to schooling at a Woman's college? And this is our 'future' intelligentsia? And we are talking about the Fascism and its feminism? How about the effeminant decision to, of all things, to join a woman's college!

Jonah Goldberg, the woman's college graduate, the Flagstar of the American Right? Bahhh-Humbug!


I posted the previous post in the wrong place! Sorry.


On this thread, I have talked about roots for man which is race/nation/tribe/ethnicity. I have pointed out the Jewish bolshevism agenda of de-racination. One of the afteraffects of de-racination is rootlessness.

Furthermore in this thread I have talked about WWI and WWII and that they were purposely instigated for a specific purpose. Fr. Seraphim Rose alludes to this plan:

"In this regard we must make note also of the two World Wars, whose violence has helped to destroy forever the Old Order and the old humanity, rooted in a stable and traditional society, and has had a large role in producing the new uprooted humanity that Marxism idealizes. Nihilism, The Root of Revolution in the Modern Age, pg 81
The purpose of WWII was to produce a golem to discredit even the hint of loyalty, longing, patronage to one's ethnicity. That the Marxist idea is purposely to produce an """"uprooted"""" humanity. Why?
"We have already cited the most striking forms of Nihilist Vitalism, whose cumulative effect has been to uproot, disintegrate, and "mobilize" the individual, to substitute for his normal stablity and rootedness a senseless quest for power and movement, and to replace normal human feeling by a nervous excitability. ibid
You can observe this "nervous excitability" everywhere in society. An example--extreme sports. Marxist de-racination is about creating rootless individuals. This is on purpose and to keep people from returning to the Old Order, to Old Traditional Society, the canard of Hitler and Nazism is thrown around to beat anybody down who even thinks of returning to the old ways.

With a New Order, must be a New Man. A New Man, de-racinated, conformed to a mentality of human rights, driven to liberty and freedom, free from religion, the natural law or anything.


In this thread, I point to the connection between "Throne and Altar", that this is the basis of Christendom, the Old Order whether it be Orthodox Russia or Catholic Europe.

Throne and Altar go together. There is no seperation, one without the other. Hillair Belloc's statement "The Faith is Europe and Europe is the Faith" is the synthesis achieved under Christendom.

In 1789, Pope Pius VI ordered the arrest of Giuseppe Balsamo, who titled himself Count Cagliostro.

"He was charged with being 'an instigator and propagator of the Freemasons sect' and a member of the Illuminati, who aimed at the 'total destruction of the Catholic religion and monarchies'. Ridley, Jasper, The Freemasons, pg 124

A French priest named Abbe Barruel would find asylum in England and wrote on Freemasonry. Barruel stated,
"...that 'about the middle of the century in which we live, three men met; all three of them were filled with a deep hatred of Christianity. These three men were Voltaire, d'Almbert, and Frederick II King of Prussia. At the meeting, according to Barruel, Voltaire and the philosopher Jean Le Rond d'Alembert,...planned the course of events which were to lead to the French Revolution; for the attack on the Church was a prelude to the attack on the monarchy, the assault on the altar being a necessary preliminary to the assault on the throne.

Barruel thought that Frederick perhaps did not appreciate that the throne could not survive if the altar fell, and did not realize that by destroying Christianity and the Catholic Church he woudl destroy the monarchies of Europe." ibid pg 142
Barruel said the secret words of masonry were "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" and that masons and revolutionaries ran thru the streets shouting this slogan.

Today you hear this reformulated as the "Cause of Freedom" as if that was the telos of mankind.

Abbe Baruel is right, Throne and Altar go together. This is what makes Christendom. And this is the object of scorn and derision. Both had to be destroyed. Both were pulled down. A Christians duty is to Throne and Altar; to the re-establishment of the Old Order; of a return to Christendom.


I mentioned in this thread about how the words "six million" and "holocaust" were being used in the 1920's and earlier 20 years before an actual holocaust claimed the lives of some reputed six million. I called this an incantation that brought forward its design.

Well, lo and behold, Dr. Makow as of 2 January 08 has posted this about Leonard Cohen and his song "First we take Manhattan and then we take Berlin". It is prophetic song that many take to prophecing 9/11. His site is here Dr. Makow's site. Leonard Cohen is mixed up with a Kabalah group called Chassidim. This is what they do:

"The word “of God” is to be understood as a mandate to action. And, naturally, Chassidism, activist and polarizing as it essentially is, has no doubt that the secret-enshrouded role of “God’s executioner” has fallen to be its lot. To accomplish this mandate, the prophetic visions (of Judaism) given millennia ago, serve as a blue-print for action.

Hence, these latest times, Chassidic scholars labor to understand the prophecies of the Bible. They search for the obvious, the obscure, and the allegorical, to analyze and to decode the prophecies with the aid of the Cabbala, Astrology, and ancient number and letter symbols, in order to align them to the present time-line. Their findings are passed on to political activists, whose responsibility it becomes to set the stage in the political landscape by creating events leading to the accomplished (prophesied) facts. This practice, like that of the Biblical sons of Issachar, who knew the secret teachings concerning the symbolism of letters serves to predict the (signs of the) times in store and to discern the actions necessary for Israel to take. (Footnote 3, p. 19) (The quote is taken from "Leonard Cohen: The Occult Background of a Prophet" by Wolfgang Eggert from his "Erst Manhattan, Dann Berlin" translated from the German for this site.)
Sounds exactly like Tikkun Olam. I don't make this up. These people are looking upon the Hebrew Scriptures and purposely trying to fulfill them. When the Scriptures says Israel will rule the Gentile nations---they are busy trying to accomplish this task. They are prophesying and then putting into place the prophesy.

That these people are dangerous is an understatement.


"Hitler will have no war, but he will be forced into it, not this year but later.


Emil Ludwig, Jewish novelist in June 1934.


"The organization originally consisted of only five members. It was founded by Adam Weishaupt, a Jew by race who had been baptized a Roman Catholic university of Ingoldstadt in Bavaria."
....
"Weishaupt believed that he and his handful of Illuminati could overthrow all governments of kings and bishops in State and Church, and then rule the world; for only the Illuminati could introduce a tolerant and libertarian regime on earth.
...
Weishaupt decided that they should infiltrate the Freemasons." The Freemasons, A History of the World's Most Powerful Secret Society, Jasper Ridley, pg 114-115.

Destroying the monarchies was a prelude to destroying race. It is all part of the agenda.


Dread, another poster on the VD haloscan posted a quote from Bertrand Russell which is revealing:

"" I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology....Various results will soon be arrived at: that the influence of home is obstructive....although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen....Educational propaganda, with government help, could achieve this result in a generation. There are, however, two powerful forces opposed to such a policy: one is religion; the other is nationalism....A scientific world society cannot be stable unless there is a world government." (1958)
Yes, the two enemies of world government is what? Religion and Nationalism. Let me demonstrate by changing words. What other words can Religion mean? How about Church or Altar. What other words can Nationalism mean? Race or Throne.

So what is Betrand Russell pointing out that are the detriments to a world society? "Throne and Altar". Where the "Throne" is monarchy that defended Race. Getting rid of Monarchy was the first step in getting rid of Race.


I just got banned from Taki website magazine. He has a right to do what he wants.

What was happening, and was constantly happening was that Roman Catholics--supposedly "conservative", were attacking anybody that stood up for the integrity of nations or race was called a "race crank" or "race idolator". This is the level of Roman Catholicism today. The RC is in heresy over this matter.

The actions are in the comment section of this thread.http://www.takimag.com/site/article/ pope_benedicts_secret_teacher/

I concluded before I got banned with this statement:

"“It is a partner with Communism to promote advance the New World Order which is the destruction of nations and hence races!”


The Roman Catholic Church is in flamin' heresy. It's social teaching is communist thru-and-thru.

There are a few of us standing, but the gates of Hell sure look like they are fast prevailing against Truth in the Church.


The thread is here:
The Pope's Secret Cabinet


A friend of mine wrote in response to me being banned: "Banning those who some of us may feel (I think unjustifiably) are “clerical fascists” or “racists” and so on is nothing less than an imported leftist-style managerial to homogenize the Right."

Now ask yourself, "Why was I banned from Taki's website?"

Think real hard.

See if you are a "racist" you are immediately banned from Catholic websites, Orthodox websites, from Conservative websites and from of course Leftist websites. Why? who wrote this morality? Who teaches this?

The Jews. We live in Jewish Culture and in Jewish civilization. We are forbidden to talk of "race" because it raises the spectre of the dreaded "Adolf Hitler" and the Nazis. So here we have Jewish control, manipulation, and hegemony over "Western Morality". Jews teach. And because they are the "victims" (and as they should be the instigators), they have the so-called moral authority to dictate morality. The Jewish control of the media is much that they have implanted in the minds of many that being a racist is being a Nazi when in fact being a racialist was what men were from the beginning. It has nothing to do with German National Socialism.

It is their morality and the Church has adopted the Jewish way of seeing things. This is not European or Traditional Christianity. It's all Jewish. Christians and Europeans are judged on whether they are Politically Correct. Political Correctness is the Jewish Ethos.


Here again, is another example of the dominant ideology current in all the world, that of destroying homogeneous racial states and replacing them with multicultural ones:

When former President Bill Clinton told a group of black journalists that America
"can live without having a dominant European culture. . . . We want to become a multiracial, multiethnic society,..."
Compare this Nicholas Sarkozy, Winston Churchill, General Wesley Clark, so on and so forth, the whole agenda is for race-mixing. In order to have race-mixing, one must have the program for anti-bigotry morality and tolerance programs. This is Cultural Marxism.

Quote from Cultural Marxism, the Vivisection of America


This thread started out as exposing the communism of JK Rowling. And then this has morphed into

"Western Culture is Dead. We live in Jewish Culture and in Jewish civilization."
This is the thesis of this thread. From the previous link comes this:
"Nature abhors a
vacuum. When one culture dies, it is replaced by another until nothing is left of the former. And when Western Christian culture is destroyed, it will be replaced by chaos, anarchy and violence as a norm. All this without any casualties on the
side of the conspirators.

Cultural Communism encompasses all of the modernist changes that have
invaded America including—but not limited to—multiculturalism, feminism,
racial and gender quotas, school busing based on race and so forth." from Cultural Communism by By F.C. Blahut
Notice the "multiculturalism" that is part of the Cultural Marxism's agenda. What is a necessary adjunct to Multiculturalism? Why it is anti-bigotry! The Anti-bigotry program is Cultural Communism! JK Rowling is part of this Cultural Communist matrix. Her books are perfect Modernist literature.

Western Culture has died. It is nomore. Something replaced it. Cultural Communism has replaced Western Culture. Communism is Jewish. The Frankfurt School is nothing but Jewish. We live in Jewish Culture and in Jewish Civilization.


From Orestes Brownson on the "generation of consititutions":

"The distinction between the providential constitution of the people and the constitution of the government, is not always made. The illustrious Count de Maistre, one of the ablest political philosophers who wrote in the last century, or the first quarter of the present, in his work on the Generative Principle of Political Constitutions, maintains that constitutions are generated, not made, and excludes all human agency from their formation and growth. Disgusted with French Jacobinism, from which he and his kin and country had suffered so much, and deeply wedded to monarchy in both church and state, he had the temerity to maintain that God creates expressly royal families for the government of nations, and that it is idle for a nation to expect a good government without a king who has descended from one of those divinely created royal families. It was with some such thought, most likely, that a French journalist, writing home from the United States, congratulated the American people on having a Bonaparte in their army, so that when their democracy failed, as in a few years it was sure to do, they would have a descendant of a royal house to be their king or emperor. Alas! the Bonaparte has left us, and besides, he was not the descendant of a royal house, and was, like the present Emperor of the French, a decided parvenu. Still, the Emperor of the French, if only a parvenu, bears himself right imperially among sovereigns, and has no peer among any of the descendants of the old royal families of Europe.

There is a truth, however, in De Maistre's doctrine that constitutions are generated, or developed, not created de novo, or made all at once. But nothing is more true than that a nation can alter its constitution by its own deliberate and voluntary action,..."
This is the failure of the Left and the American and French Revolutions. You can't make a society "de nuvo". Monarchy had a Divine origin. It is there for a purpose and it serves a point. The destruction of monarchy is a gross error of judgement. Cultural Communism is an assault on everthing divine. Everything.


What did Satan do in the Garden of Eden?

He told Eve essentially in his lying that the meaning of the Tree of Good and Evil is not the meaning that God gave it. Satan changed the meaning.

Everything is about Meaning. And each meaning has specific and concrete consequences.

This is what "tolerance" and "anti-bigotry" is---it sucks meaning out of Race. Race has NO meaning. There are no consequences to any particular race. This is the hidden agenda of Tolerance.

Tolerance is a form of Relativity. All things are Relative, there is NO absolute Truth. Relativity is the first step in Nihilism. This whole thread has been about the destruction of the Old Order. It is about Nihilism as Fr. Seraphim Rose has pointed out in his book with that title: Nihilism IS the Root of Revolution in the Modern Age. I will take it even Further, the Modern Age is Nihilism.

Nihilism or Relativity deconstructs meaning. And the major focus of this thread is the major error of this age Communism/Masonry with its Universal Brotherhood of Man and its program of the deconstruction of Race/Nation/Tribe/Ethnicity. It is all being deconstructed. There are No boundaries because nothing has meaning. The African race, there is no absolute truth, there is no meaning; therefore they are Equal and can live among Europeans without effect. The Jews, there is no absolute truth, there is no meaning, they are not Cursed, they are not iconoclastic, they are not nihilists, they are not dangerous, they are just like you and me; they are Equal and can live among Europeans without effect.

This is the essence of the whole thing. There is no Truth in a thing. All is relative. That is what Equality teaches, that is the presumption of Equality---all things are relative. And if there is No Truth, no absolutes---there is no meaning. The nihilist agenda is that Race has no meaning. Hence, all races are equal.

Many times I thought this thread was over but it kept on growing and leading and I kept finding more information. But now....I think I have concluded this thread. I have taken it to its logical conclusion and found the essence of it all. I understand this reality and see clearly thru the smokescreens. And there is Hell to pay because man has done away with meaning but God has not and the repercussions of this Cultural Marxism is absolutely disastrous. Western Culture and Civilizaiton is dead and over.

God have mercy our souls.


I keep on thinking and wanting this thread to end; especially since it is a disgusting subject that deals in death. But there are two pieces that have come out that back my assertion that Western Civilization and Culture are dead.

Philip Weiss has done a book review of Jacob Heilbrunn They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons entitled The Long Fuse to the Iraq War where he points out that Mr. Heilbrunn outs the Neo-conservative movement as totally Jewish.

Kevin MacDonald in his blogspot affirms the conclusions of both Philip Weiss and Mr. Heilbrunn; The Neocons as a Hostile Conservative (!) Elite.

"What neoconservatives really dislike about their “allies” among traditional conservatives is simply the fact that the conservatives are conservatives at all—that they support 'this notion of a Christian civilization'..."
What these Neo-cons have done is force traditional European conservatives from their jobs and posts at Conservative periodicals and think tanks like Joe Sobran and Pat Buchanan.

What is Western Civilization?

It is Roman Catholic.

Who are Joe Sobran and Pat Buchanan that Kevin MacDonald notes has having been removed by these people?

Roman Catholics.

Kevin MacDonald's conclusion?
"That the New York Times can call Kristol a conservative without shame or irony is a striking commentary on the death of American conservatism."
What is Conservatism? True Conservatism is Western Civilization. European Continental Conservatism is Christendom. Though he did say "American conservatism", American Conservatism did include large chunks of True conservatism and Anglo-Saxon, European character.

But now? It is all dead. How the Jews have forced all Europeans out and they themselves have taken over control of the levers of conservative thought and culture.

Conservatism is dead---that means Western Civilization is dead. Let me remind you that civilization means "advanced". The destruction of heirarchy, of church, of monarchy,...the rise of monomanicalism and egalitarianism is the sign of regression, of dismantling of civilization.

Jews have taken over America. They drive morality of political correctness. They coined it, they shaped it. They are like the parasitic cowbird and the cuckoo who lay their eggs in other birds nest, when upon hatching, push out the natural birds offspring to their deaths.

And Christians actually enable their killers. No Western Civilization---No Christianity. This is the principle folks---Culture defines Politics and Religion. Greeks have a saying---"Gifts blind a man". It is also said, "Friendships blind a man". Christians have been socially conditioned by the 24/7 holocaust media memorial events and have allowed friendships enormous with Jews. Christians have been blinded and therefore are being led to their deaths. And deservedly so. "Beware that thou be not decieved" escapes them.


Irving Kristal follows in the footsteps of Benjamin Disraelli:

"[O]ne can say that the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy."
Neo-conservative is again Jewish idealism about deconstructing European Culture and replacing it with Jewish Culture and Jewish ideology. It is all about the shifting the culture.

Quote taken from Lawerence Auster's View from the Right, Dr. Kristol or: How I Learned to Stop Being Angry and Love McCain.


J.K. Rowling in a sense attacks "priviledge". What grants priviledge is "pure blood". This allows the pure bloods to have a "bigotry" to maintain their class and status. This, J.K. Rowling is what she is against.

"As Aristotle has pointed out (Politics, III,viii,204), equality and hatred for the extraordinary man, the priviledged person, is the main postulate of democracy and, therefore, of all leftist thought". Eric von Kuenhelt-Leddihn, Leftism Revisited, pg 390 #455.
This is what the Harry Potter series is teaching to children--the communist hatred of priviledge. "Priviledge by Heritage" is the greatest crime of the 20th century.


On 10.30.07 - 9:07 pm, I posted the following:

As of 30 Oct. 2007, Dr. Makow has on his site a letter from Kevin Ambrams titled "A Jewish Response from Kevin Abrams, Co Author of "The Pink Swastika". Kevin Ambrams is the author of the Pink Swastika. Here are the pertinent quotes:

"...the Jewish mission to the world is liberation FROM bondage and freedom FROM slavery... for all mankind."

And then Mr. Abrams quotes another Jew:
""And as Viktor Frankel, author of Doctor of The Soul, and survivor of Auschwitz observed, "there are only two types of people in the world, builders and plunderers."
I want you to notice this word "Builders". Notice it real good.

Now I went to a site today about good ol' AH and guess what good ol' AH said:
"Hitler’s main ‘theories’ regarding Jews most likely stemmed from the Bible, not the occult. The majority of the evidence supports the argument that Hitler’s “hatred for Jewish religious beliefs” was based on the teachings in the Bible. The very first item listed under the introduction to Hitler’s notes reads, “The Bible – Monumental History of Mankind.” Hitler notes that there are “two human types” in this world, “Builders and destroyers-----Children of God and Men.” This most likely refers to the tribes of Shem, one of which was the tribe of Judah, and Japheth."
From this article, Hitler was also a great reader of the Talmud. Now, where Oh Where, does Hitler and Kevin Abrams, the Jew, get this idea of a "Builder"? Why are two divergent types saying the same thing? Coincidence? NO. No. and NO.

National Socialism is an offshoot of International Socialism of Karl Marx. What is socialism about? Building the New World Order. Why are all these people talking about "Builders" for?

I am sick and tired of all this BS. I am sick to my stomach.

Here is the article from where the quote from Hitler comes from: "Hitler’s Persecution of Jews: The Influence of Christianity". This article also mirrors a lot of what I said in this thread about the Jewish need to rule the world.


Well, part of this thread was about the Jewish instigation of WWII and possibly of WWI also. It is just disgusting.

Well, I found more corroborating evidence: How The Jews Prompted a German Backlash.

"JEWS WERE KEY ADVISORS of the Versailles Treaty of 1919 which carved Germany into pieces just after WWI. Rabbi Stephen Wise advised President Wilson about the impending treaty before Wilson left America for the Versailles peace conference. The Jew Bernard Baruch advised Wilson at the conference. British Prime Minister Lloyd George was advised by the Jew Phil Sassoon. French leader Georges Clemenceau was advised by his Jewish Interior Minister Georges Mandel aka Louis Rothschild.

Representing the American banking interests was Paul Warburg, the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. His brother, Max Warburg, the head of the German banking firm of Warburg and Company, was there as a representative of Germany.

By the Treaty of Versailles the German people were thoroughly humiliated."

The Germans did NOT start WWI, they were the last to mobilize. The Jewish plan was to totally destroy the Old Order and replace it with a New Order. In the way stood Germany. Germany had the racial proclivity to bring Total War. So, the Jews controlling their Auslage Goys to bring destruction upon Germany in hopes of bringing in a communist revolution and unseat the German Monarchs. They drove Germany to her knees and therefore caused a backlash against the Jews.


Ran across more information.

Fr. Columkille wrote a book, That Ungrateful Christendom, and has an excerpt on his website of it; the footnotes is this gem:

“By writing this book, I became familiar with the major writings of the two intellectual founders of the most important secular religion of the modern world, Marx and Engels. By reading Sidney Hook’s From Hegel to Marx, I also stumbled onto the existence of the shadowy figure who converted Frederick Engels to communism in 1842, Moses Hess (1812 -1875). He was the son of a successful Jewish businessman."
Moses Hess was known as the communist Rabbi. Here is an excerpt of his book Rome and Jerusalem:
"To-day I could have apologized to this German poet, for, as I see clearly now, it was by no means intended as a personal insult. It is impossible for any man to be at the same time a Teutomaniac and a friend of the Jews, just as it is impossible to love, simultaneously, the German military rule and German democracy. The real Teutomaniacs of the Arndt and Jahn type will always be honest, reactionary conservatives. The Teutomaniac, in his love of the Fatherland, loves not the State but the race dominance. How, then, can he conceive the granting of equal rights to other races than the dominant one, when equality is still a Utopia for the large masses of Germany? The sympathetic Frenchman assimilates with irresistible attraction every foreign race element. Even the Jew is here a Frenchman. Jefferson said long ago, at the time of the American Revolution, that every man has two fatherlands, first his own and then France. The German, on the other hand, is not at all anxious to assimilate any foreign elements, and would be perfectly happy if he could possess all his fatherlands and dominions for himself. He lacks the primary condition of every chemical assimilative process, namely, warmth." (From Wikisource, Fifth letter)

There is much that is interesting in that book of Moses Hess. It is the philosophy of what is and the essence of Communism and its Jewish roots can be seen it. Also in his letters, he attacks "Dualism" which is a central philosophical principle to Christianity. This is what communism destroys. Communism is Jewish ideology and mentality which is foreign to Christianity. He also attacks the "Immortality of the Soul" which of course is Platonic in its origin.

This work of Moses Hess shows the Jewish mindset. IT is his pure thoughts. And in it one can see this Messianism that consumes the Jew and is part and parcel of communism. What the Hess excerpt does is show the Jewish hatred of "Teutonmania" and this is why Germany had to be destroyed. Germany is quintessentially Indo-European--and that had to be destroyed.


Moses Hess:

"The race war must first be fought out and definitely settled before social and humane ideas become part and parcel of the German people, as was the case with the Romance peoples which, after a long historical process, finally defeated race antagonism." from Wikisource Sixth Letter

Race antagonism has been there from the Tower of Babel on. It is part and parcel of the Natural Order and hence the Natural law. All races have that to keep them from coalescing.

This quote from Moses Hess is one of the cores, essences of Jewish Bolshevism and the drive to end it all. This is the lesson JK Rowling. Instead of using "racial purity", she is using the technique of allegory by replacing racial purity with Wizard purity. She is teaching Communist/Jewish ideology in her books. She is aping Moses Hess. She by transposing Racial blood with Wizardly blood she is teaching communist ideology and teaching this to children.

WWI and WWII were Race Wars. It was about destroying the German Race, about destroying "Racial Antagonism" that is so hateful to the Jew. Also Moses Hess outs himself and the Jews as Materialists that hate the "idealism" of the German; their metaphysical life.

What is the essence of all this?

The Jew, as I have said earlier, HATES reality. He has NO understanding believes nothing in the Bible. It is plain and simple----They have no understanding of their covenant. They have no belief in the curse. They don't understand their place. They are ignorant and then become spiteful. The 20th Century IS the Jewish Century! For all things revolve around the Jew and his escapism from reality, from punishment, from God. They are the Jonahs---run away, run away. They can't face facts and so have destroyed Christendom in their effort to re-make the world into their Jewish materialist messianism.

You know what I say to this---Go the F#@$% to Hell the whole lot of you.

Instead of Holocaust museums, which every single one needs to be destroyed. The Jews owe us an apology. Not only do they now have to repent of killing their Christ, but because of the Hesses, the Marxs, the Luxembergs, the Eisners, Baruchs, the Warburgs, the Soros, the Kristols, the Wises, the Rothschilds, the Sassoons, etc, they owe us an apology for the destruction of the 20th century; they have to repent of instigating the Versaille Treaty and WWII; for fomenting social revolution everywhere and for anarchism. If AH is the founder of Zionism, The Jews are the founder of AH. You people are Stupid from the word "Get-go".


Wow, earlier in this thread, I pointed out the monomanicalism of the Jews that rest in their theology; their theology that rests on an imperfect idea of God, i.e. the biblical Moses saw ONLY the backside of God. Moses did NOT see the fullness of God.

Well more confirmation of this fact of Jewish ideology that drives their mindset:

"Our modern Sadducees, Pharisees and Essenes, also I mean the reformers, the rabbinists and the Chasidim will disappear from Jewish history after the crisis has passed, the last crisis in universal history, when all ,the nations, and with them the Jewish people, will have awakened to a new life. Judaism does not allow either spiritualistic or materialistic sects to exist in its midst. Jewish life, like its divine ideal and goal, is undivided, and it is this Monism of Jewish life which acts as an antidote against modern materialism, which is only the reverse side of Christian spiritualism." Moses Hess, Sixth Letter of Rome and Jerusalem
Their thought is simpleton. All is a Monism; it is all monomanicalism. This is the essence of Communism.

Christianity on the otherhand is simple yet complex. It is incomprehensible to the Jew just like Jesus Christ is incomprehensible to the Jew. Jesus Christ IS a Duality that exists in a Monism that is particularized into three parts. Christian thought is 1-2-3. Christian thought is a Triangle composed of Duality composed in a Monism. Difficult thought that a Jew can not comphrehend.

Reality is Theological. One can only comphrehend the fullness of reality by contemplating the fullness of the Godhead.


In Henry Ford’s 1920 book, The International Jew, (Chapter 3, Victims or Persecutors, third-to-last paragraph), he writes:

"One parallel between the Protocols and the real hopes of the Jews is written in the common Jewish prophecy that Christianity is doomed to perish. It will perish, to all intents and purposes, by becoming Judaism."

This is why I excoriate judiazing within the Christian church and abhor the term "judeo-Xtrianity". They work for the destruction of Christianity. Henry Ford knew this 88 years ago and it is getting worse and worse.

It is interesting also that the above link also quotes the Fourth Protocol of the Elders Zion, to which:
""It is for this reason that we must undermine faith, eradicate from the minds of the Gentiles the very principles of God and Soul, and replace these conceptions by mathematical calculations and material desires."

It is about ending the metaphysical mind of the European. To turn him away from God. What is the single most characteristic of the Jew? His Materialism. Materialism is the opposite of Metaphysics. It is about replacing the European modality of Metaphysics with Materialism.
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Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., in his speech, "The Influence of Marxism in the United States Today", points out something very disturbing:

"In the light of what we have just seen, can anyone doubt that the United States has been deeply infected by Marxism. However, I believe we can say even more. Our country is a Marxist nation, Dare I say still more? The United States of America is the most powerful Marxist country in the world.

This thesis deserves not just another lecture, or even just a semester of class. It should be the bedrock of our understanding of what the Vicar of Christ is telling us. As we come to the close of the twentieth century, we are seeing the gravest crisis in the history of Christianity. In my judgment, at the center of this crisis is the deep penetration of Marxism into our beloved country." (The rest of the article can be found here:The Influence of Marxism in the United States Today)

He is exactly right. One thing that Fr. Hardon is unaware of and fails to point out, is the deracination ideology inherent in Marxism. And in this we can clearly see how America is Marxist in that America, its religious leaders, its politicians, its academics, teachers, practically everybody has adopted Marxist ideology, terminology, morality when it comes to race.

To further drive home the point a poster, anticommunitarian, (Niki Raapana) on Majority Rights, way back in 2005, "Most Americans support Marxist solutions to national problems", points out:
"President George Bush is openly a communitarian. Many of his staff are communitarian thinkers. Communitarianism is the synthesis in the Marxist dialectic. They count on the fact that Americans don’t know what that means. Bush has proposed, implemented, and supported numerous communitarian laws, programs, and wars. If we support Bush we may know we support violent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, but we might not know that these are Marxist takeovers. The “red” states unwittingly also support many new Marxist solutions for America, including redistribution of property, compulsory volunteerism, Rebuilding [communist] Communities, a National-International ID database, and a central Military - Police organization appointed by the President. The Bush neo-cons are said to follow Lenin’s more harsh and murderous political ideals.

Democrats who don’t admit their Marxist tendencies are kidding themselves too. Ex-President Bill Clinton and V.P. Al Gore are openly committed communitarians. The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) and its Ultimate Third Way agenda endorses Marxist induced laws. The “blue” states could know their leaders created many Marxist solutions for America, including outright confiscation of private property, compulsory volunteerism, Rebuilding [communist] Communities, a National-International ID database, and a central Military - Police organization appointed by the President. The Democrats are said to follow Trotsky’s softer face of totalitarian communism, aka a communism where people are genuinely happy with their slave status. Democratic candidate John Kerry is a Liberal Internationalist who supports the global system too." (The rest of the article is here: http://www.tinyurl.com/ys6z46 )

The American people have been thoroughly Marxized. They are taught to HATE their heritage called in Marxist terms DWEM-"Dead White European Males" which means the Graeco-Roman heritage and the basis of European Civilization. Americans use Marxist Terminology. Americans Judge things through Marxist Morality. Americans work toward Marxist goals such as "Equality". None of this is European Culture, European Civilization or Christendom. That Americans would turn to man's opinion and that of Marxists instead of Divine Revelation is the mark of the end of the Transcendent, of metaphysics, the loss of the spiritual vision. Modern America is a Marxist Nation.
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What is apparent in this thread is that every where the Jew goes or does, it is materialistic. Communism which is Jewish is Materialistic. That this is inherent in Jews and Judiasm has also been noted by Brother Nathaneal:

"#4 Christianity tells Jews that they must value Spiritual things above worldly things. (Jews are crass materialists.)" from "What Jews fear the most"

Christianity is a metaphysical religion. It's priority is the spiritual realm. It is Metaphysical. This is why "judiazing" Christianity is so dangerous. Christianity is the way it is because of its European character.


Earlier in this thread, I quoted a work by Rosa Luxemburg entitled
"The Nationalities Question in the Russian Revolution". Google the term "Nationalities Question" and one gets hundreds of hits. This "Nationalities Question" is on many a Marxist website.

There is one in particular.
J. V. Stalin
THE NATIONAL QUESTION
AND LENINISM
(March 18, 1929)

[Published for the first time
in Stalin's Works, 1954]

Here is the interesting quote:

"It is possible that, at first, not one world economic centre will be formed, common to all nations and with one common language, but several zonal economic centres for separate groups of nations, with a separate common language for each group of nations, and that only later will these centres combine into one common world socialist economic centre, with one language common to all the nations.

In the next stage of the period of world dictatorship of the pro]etariat -- when the world socialist system of economy becomes sulficiently consolidated and socialism becomes part and parcel of the life of the peoples, and when practice convinces the nations of the advantages of a common language over national languages -- national differences and languages will begin to die away and make room for a world language, common to all nations.

One can see the two step process, First, there is a convergence of countries in "economic zones"; i.e. that is the North American Union, the South American Union, the European Union, the African Union, and the Asian Union. After all these are united---then One world Government when all these zones will be put under One World Government.

This plan was followed by President Woodrow Wilson. President Franklin Roosevelt instigated war with Japan so that he could enter America into the European War to bring about the United Nations. Prime Minister Winston Churchill wanted also a United States of America. IT is all Marxist. In order to prepare for this, the culture has to be changed and this is why the neo-communist JK Rowling is so important. Her books plant Marxist ideology into children.

For the rest of the article is here: The National Question and Leninism


Sentence of Churchill should read: "Prime minister Winston Churchill wanted to create a United States of Europe".


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