Well, when 3,000 Americans die in a firey attack you can pat yourself on the back for being courageous enough to stand against pouring water in people's faces.
Well done.
Ahhh, c'mon Rob, you know you get all those shiners because you just don't listen.
1. Waterboarding IS torture, one which I'm sure would make you shit yourself before the Seran Wrap is even torn from the roll.
2. Torture IS NOT an effective means of procuring information.
3. Banning torture is what makes the US special and morally superior. Torturing captured enemies is what short-lived, third-rate thugocracies do to those they fear. (Maybe you do know that and that's your type of utopia)
4. You spelled "fiery" wrong. At least learn your own buzzwords, you twit.
Hmmm, I seem to recall several wars in the history of the U.S., hundreds of thousands of fiery deaths, and not a single case of officially-sanctioned torture.
How did we ever survive as a nation?
Oh yeah, by being courageous and smart, rather than debasing ourselves like cowardly thugs.
I think your number 3 is right on, Pither. And I'm sure that Rob already knew 1 and 2. The pro-torture crowd, of which Rob is obviously a member, is just trying to redefine "torture."
If Rob truly believed that waterboarding was a-okay, he wouldn't lie about what waterboarding really is.
Really Julie, which wars would those be? Do you honestly think that this sort of stuff wasn't done just because the New York Times didn't right sensationalistic exposes on them?
Give me a break.
And its you guys who are trying to re-define torture. Anything more sinister than a firm handshake has you idiots going into vapors.
Which wars? All wars. Name one in which the U.S. claimed as an official position the right to torture prisoners.
And there you go again, defining torture down. Waterboarding is mock execution that even trained CIA agents can't tolerate for more than 14 seconds. It's much more than a firm handshake.
I don't have a problem with some forms of rough interrogation, such as a slap to get attention or stress techniques to wear down resistance. Even cops use stress techniques to wear down a suspect in an interrogation. I haven't seen anyone claiming that is torture.
But this Administration is officially, openly claiming for itself a new definition of torture, contrary to long-established law.
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