Sandra Gidley,
funny, I will post this link on my own blog
The ID-Card Debate in UK is important not only for you, but for the whole of Europa. If you introduce this ID Card I am very afriad that many other countries will follow. So please continue the fight for liberal values in UK.
Lars-Henrik Michelsen,
Bergen - Norway
ID dards could be a good step in protecting this country against terrorism. I would rather lose a few liberties than get blown up in the tube station.ID cards could also replace passports, hold more data and could be updated quickly if necessary. The war on terrorism is getting bigger by the minute and ID card could play a small and significant part in its defeat.
They will do nothing of the sort Peter. They will be there for your party to manipulate all of us and to find out our every movement. Your party has only made things worse at the end of the day and Blair should be ashamed of himself. I as well as many others stay within the law and feel this is an infrngement on our liberties that this country has been renowned for. Anyway, where are the all the billions of pounds going to come from in paying for this? Most probably from our pockets I would imagine. Wouldn't it be best spent on caring for the elderly that you moaned about recently?
Sandra
I found the link very funny, thanks for that.
On the politics of ID cards it does appear to me that this is one of a growing number of issues where the Labour is on its own and the views of LibDems and Conservatives agree.
I don't think the link is very funny at all. Peter's comments are not justified when we live in a country that cannot even exercise proper control over it's own borders. How can ID cards even combat terrorism when we have to put up with crackpot clerics making treasonable statements? Maybe they've been allowed to stay here in the hope by the government that they would vote Labour. Instead, they live off our benefits and preach hatrid. But the most serious problem I have with these stupid cards is that we could steadily see our freedom of speech melt away. We may not be able to speak our minds in the way we can in twenty years time. What will Peter say, or rather, cannot say about it then?
Clive seems to be suffering from reading to many daily mail newspapers his racism and bigotry has no bounds. There hundreds of law abiding muslim clerics in this country speaking out against terrorism and stand with us in the fight against Islamic extremists.The particular one he refers to has a heart condition which requires surgery here in the next few weeks.Still he is taking a chance in our hospitals as MRSA may get him in the end.
A classic from Peter...play the race card. He can't hide from the mess that his so called useless party has created. The facts go far beyond what the Daily Mail can ever produce. Even his left wing friends at the BBC have mentioned all this and have fallen foul to the bully boys that make up New Labour.
Clive you are not even worthy to kiss and wash the feet of our leader Tony Blair.He loves and takes care of his country and people. Thats why we will always beat you at the general elections.
Peter, you're having a laugh aren't you? The man is a fraud and has lost all credibility in running this country. You have as much self-worth as the local binman with your attitude. What is needed is something that will restore the pride and self-respect that our country has lost and to sweep you lot from the offices that you give nothing but contempt for.
Clive, you and your bunch of tory hillbillies and barflys should step out of the rotting and corrupt atmosphere of Romseys conservative drinking club and into the fresh air of the real world.Its 2005 and the popular Labour party has won the general election.Its victorious and beloved leader Tony Blair would win it again if he was gracious enough to stand at the next election. Gorden Brown will be our next prime minister and we will continue to defeat you torys for the next thousand years.
Peter. I think you've got a screw loose. You have a fixation with the drinking club. Where's your's then? The Tavern on a Friday? Labour is far from popular as they bluffed their way back into power by their sleazy tactics. Where's the debate on postal voting that you mentioned? Has the vote rigging been covered up? I think you are taking the mickey over Blair. I mean, a man that took us to war over the weapons of non-existance. Your assumption of staying in power over the next thousand years is a joke and a half. Even the Third Reich promises that and failed. When the opposition eventually gets it's act together, you lot will be out sooner than you think because you are a load of incompetants.
How odd, it was the current conservative leader who told the country he would have attacked Iraq without any UN resolutions doesnt clive even support his own party. Benjamin Disraeli once said a conservative government is an organized hypocrisy. I think in howard and clives case this is quite true.At least the lib/dems were honest from the start by not supporting the war.
unfortunately if they had their way Saddam would still be in power committing further atrocities and genocide on his own people.
Maybe, but the current situation is something that cannot be ignored as it seems to be getting better, not worse. Blair lied to the country and for that, he should resign. Today's hypocracy, is inside New Labour.
An interesting tribute from Channel 4's racing pundit at Robin Cook's funeral. According to ITN his attack on Blair "snubbing" the Cook family was applauded outside the cathedral - and that was in Scotland!
Something along the same lines on id cards (needs microsoft media player)
http://video.freevideoblog.com/P...A9-
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the no2id forum has further details.
The bookie was an idiot and uncouth buffoon. Did he give his speech in tik- tak.
Mr cook would have not wanted Blair at his funeral and he would have been a hypocrite if he had attended.
I don't think Mr Cook could give a damn whether or not Princess Tony attended his funeral. In fact, I'm sure he would be up there laughing his head off at the bookies hard-hitting comments.
You torys fall flat on your faces when ever the monarchy walks by.You need to get off your knees tory boy. What is wrong with a British Republic and a democratic head of state as an alternative to the monarchy. Of course the Royals could continue to use the state assets andr former royal palaces and castles to attract tourist income and all parts of the property could remain open all year to pack in even more tourists.The royals could at last become free citizens like everybody else to decide for themselves.
You really have no pride in things do you Comrade Peter. The Queen has served the country well and will contine to do so for the foreseeable future. She will even see out Princess Tony in his last days. You are, I'm afraid not in the majority on this one so I cannot ever see you plans bearing fruition in your lifetime. Constitutional monarchy has protected us from the totalitarian state over the years. The trouble with your party Comrade is that they are leading us down this route with their expensive but unpopular system of ID cards. I would rather see the Queen walk by than a President Blair anyday.
Hopefully the Queen will outlast comrade sowerby and his daft lot.What has he done for this country over the last 53 years? Not a lot I imagine.
Turning closer to home Mrs Gidley once said that she held no particular Royalist sentiments.Does she agree with comrade sowerby? Does she read this twaddle? Does she worry about 125 votes?
Read my lips tory boy. The popular labour party won the general election. Your local romsey tory wannabe was defeated by the lib/dem Sandra Gidley.COME ON TORY BOY ADMIT IT AND GET ON YOUR KNEES AND THANK WHATEVER GOD YOU BELIEVE IN.
Popular indeed Peter. With only 36% of the vote and some dubious postal voting thrown into the bargain, not forgetting some sleazy campaign tactics, the "popular" Labour party is anything but that. Has it replaced "New" at all? Are you focusing your attacks on religion now?
Boys boys boys ..... any chance of kissing and making up?
Making up Sandra? Never! Who would want to kiss someone that, to me, resembles the bungled rhetoric of John Prescott? I'm sure you get that feeling, especially as you have to face the man from the other side of the floor every Wednesday.
You are wrong again clive. I have met John Prescott and found him to be a gentle, sensitive, thoughtful and kind man. He also gave me a wonderful book of his poems and speeches which he hopes to publish when he stands down as deputy prime minister. I hope you will buy a copy and begin to see things as they really are.You will find your his comrade too.
I have also read a copy of all of his blundering outbursts over the years. They are hilarious. Obviously, you think on his wavelength, hence being able to understand him when many of us don't. I don't see a man who wants to force regional government onto us through undemocratic means, dodgy postal voting and concrete jungles as being my comrade. He spent a lot of time travelling the world doing things like diving in the Great Barrier Reef and attended "very important" meetings on the environment but has anything actually come of this? Maybe that's why Greenpeace decided to raid his castle and offer to install solar panels. He lives upto his gas guzzling image as "Two Jags", especially when his wife got into one to travel just a hundred yards down the road to prevent her hair from blowing in the wind! Actually, if you would like to know, a friend of my mother worked with Prescott on the boats and he was hated among the crew as he kept on telling everyone what to do. He does like a good Chinese and so do I which is one thing I have in common with him though. But really, looking at him reminds me of Les Dawson, playing all the wrong chords on the grand piano, except Les was genius at what he did.
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