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Gravatar One word -- Samizdat

Thanks for this, WP.


Gravatar Will do, Winter Patriot.

But we're not quite ready yet, for Martial Law. Not sufficiently post Peak Oil, and post Peak Food.

No need for Martial Law while the booboisie are still, well, boobs; while the soporific and semi-comatose have plenty grub and plenty media circuses to keep them fat and distracted.

Watch for the Obesity Quotient. When you walk down the street and see desperate, hungry eyes, and rib-cages showing, that would make a corpse seem nourished - then you will have riot, and revolution, and dissident round-up, and armed insurrection, and Martial Law.

Of course, I may be wrong. It may be tomorrow.


Gravatar * Crashing economy and a possibility of a market break down.

The biggest story no one's talking about! I experienced it first hand: We had to claim bankruptcy and lost our house.

Funny, no one mentions the new bankruptcy law may have been part of the preparing for martial law!


Gravatar "Samizdat" is Russian for "self-publishing" and it loosely describes the loose "system" by which information was shared during Soviet times.

if you came into possession of a forbidden document you were expected to read it, copy it, and pass it on.

In early days copies were made by hand. The samizdat publishers were literally scribes -- some books of hundreds of pages were copied by hand, over and over.

Later, carbon paper and typewriters enabled the samizdat publishers to make multiple copies much more quickly.

Mass copiers such as ditto machines were recognized as dangerous to the state and were kept under state control.

More on this stuff later.


Gravatar Here was the vote for the pro-credit card bankruptcy law. Of course, all the Republicans voted for it, but here's the Democratic SELL-OUTS we must not forget:

Daniel Akaka (Hawaii) senator@akaka.senate.gov
Max Baucus (Montana) http://www.senate.gov/~baucus/Em...us/ EmailMax.htm
Evan Bayh (Indiana) http://bayh.senate.gov/webmail.html
Joe Biden (Delaware) senator@biden.senate.gov
Jeff Bingaman (New Mexico) senator_bingaman@bingaman.senate.gov
John Breaux (Louisiana) senator@breaux.senate.gov
Robert Byrd (West Virginia) senator_byrd@byrd.senate.gov
Maria Cantwell (Washington) http://cantwell.senate.gov/mailform.html
Jean Carnahan (Missouri) senator_carnahan@carnahan.senate.gov
Thomas Carper (Delaware) http://carper.senate.gov/
Max Cleland (Georgia) http://www.senate.gov/~cleland/w...nd/ webform.html
Hillary Clinton (New York) senator@clinton.senate.gov
Kent Conrad (North Dakota) senator@conrad.senate.gov
Tom Daschle (Sorth Dakota) http://daschle.senate.gov/webform.htm
Byron Dorgan (North Dakota) senator@dorgan.senate.gov
John Edwards (North Carolina) http://www.senate.gov/~edwards/c...ds/ contact.html
Dianne Feinstein (California) senator@feinstein.senate.gov
Bob Graham (Florida) bob_graham@graham.senate.gov
Fritz Hollings (South Carolina) http://www.senate.gov/~hollings/...gs/ webform.html
Daniel Inouye (Hawaii) http://www.senate.gov/~inouye/we...ye/ webform.html
Tim Johnson (South Dakota) tim@johnson.senate.gov
Herb Kohl (Wisconsin) senator_kohl@kohl.senate.gov
Mary Landrieu (Louisiana) http://landrieu.senate.gov/webform.html
Patrick Leahy (Vermont) senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov
Carl Levin (Michigan) senator@levin.senate.gov
Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) senator_lieberman@lieberman.senate.gov
Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas) blanche_lincoln@lincoln.senate.gov
Barbara Mikulski (Maryland) senator@mikulski.senate.gov
Zell Miller (Georgia) http://miller.senate.gov/email.htm
Patty Murray (Washington) senator_murray@murray.senate.gov
Ben Nelson (Nebraska) http://www.senate.gov/senators/ b...ben_nelson.html
Harry Reid (Nevada) senator_reid@reid.senate.gov
Chuck Schumer (New York) senator@schumer.senate.gov
Debbie Stabenow (Michigan) senator@stabenow.senate.gov
Robert Torricelli (New Jersey) senator_torricelli@torricelli.senate.gov
Ron Wyden (Oregon) http://wyden.senate.gov/mail.htm

Democrats Who Voted No:
Jon Corzine, N.J.; Mark Dayton, Minn.; Chris Dodd, Conn.; Dick Durbin, Ill.; Russ Feingold, Wis.; Tom Harkin, Iowa; Ted Kennedy, Mass.; John Kerry, Mass.; Bill Nelson, Fla.; Jack Reed, R.I.; John Rockefeller, W.Va.; Paul Sarbanes, Md.; Paul Wellstone, Minn.

Not Voting:
Barbara Boxer (California)


Gravatar Notice, Paul Wellstone voted "NO".


Gravatar Sea Dreamer: "No need for Martial Law while the booboisie are still, well, boobs; while the soporific and semi-comatose have plenty grub and plenty media circuses to keep them fat and distracted."

Exactly.


Gravatar That's an amazing list of sell-outs, BD. Under the heading of "Things That Make You Go 'HUH'???

And Wellstone - well he was always voting against the Takeover.


Gravatar Notice, Biden, Clinton, Byrd, Cleland, Daschle, Edwards, Feinstein, Landrieu, Leahy, Reid, Schumer, Lieberman, and Zell Miller (remember Zell Miller???).


Gravatar Hah, BD. How could I EVER forget that traitorous TURNCOAT Zell Miller??? Or Lieberman???

They should have been TARRED & FEATHERED & run out of town on a rail.


Gravatar * Refuse to use private transportation. Be ready to work but demand that the government provides sufficient public transportation for everybody to go to and from work. They cannot force you to use your private car to travel to and from work.

Not sure I agree. Get on a public train that takes you to a Dachau?

Get on a public bus that takes you to a Treblinka?

No thanks.

"Standing up for public transit" is a grievous error. It assumes those running public transit are well-intentioned.

That's a dangerous and naive assumption, not unlike calling the Democrats the "lesser evil."


Gravatar A big gulp of reality with the morning coffee. Haven't even taken a bite of the toast and already I think I am going to puke.

Hey Winter, thanks for keeping the burnt out light bulbs on the path to enlightenment replaced with new/fresh light bulbs so we don't wander in darkness - stumbling needlessly along on our way.

A total Fascist takeover of our government and the institution of martial law - and a list of counter measures citizens might take if so inclined - who wuda thunk ?


Gravatar Hey z,

Whaddaya say we join Blackwater? It would be fun! We could round up those commie pinko dissidents and put them on trains to a mass extermination & grave site in the Nevada desert. It would be great fun, almost as fun as supporting the Democrats!


Gravatar Uh, Dan, the nasty Bankruptcy Law was passed in 2005. Wellstone did not vote either way on it, nor did Edwards.


Gravatar Thanks, M.K. Wellstone met his fate in '02. I hadn't had my coffee when I read the list or I might have noticed that impossibility!

For that vote:

Repubs: 229 Yea; 0 Nay
Dems: 73 Yea; 125 Nay
Bernie Sanders [the sole Independent] voted Nay

No difference between Repubs & Dems.


Gravatar Just remember: if you support the lesser evil, Blackwater thugs will not take you to the concentration/extermination camps.


Gravatar Remember, the GOP is the evil evil evil evil of the evil empire! They are WAY MORE EVIL! WAY MORE!

Vote Dem for the lesser of 2 evils!

Always better to have small evil than to have goodness.

ALWAYS.


Gravatar And remember: a vote in Congress is the ultimate test of whether you are TRUE EVIL or tiny evil.


Gravatar And remember:

Oversimplifying things is the surest course to pacifying the tension in your mind. It will make you feel better.

Who cares if it continues the present situation.

At least your mind is pacified!


Gravatar Geez - somebody forgot to take their meds?


Gravatar That type of response says it all, Kira.

Thanks for your indirect honesty. You don't have a rational response, so you resort to insult.

Well done. Very well done.

Vote for Hillary! She's not GOP!


Gravatar While you're on a roll of GOP-hating posts, Kira, I thought I'd show you what it looks like to just blanket a comment thread with silly postings. Did you get the point?

I doubt it. I don't think you care about much besides getting people to support Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

I'm sure they're proud of you. What's the going rate per post from the DLC these days?


Gravatar Maybe it's too much libation.


Gravatar Given our present system, if one does not vote for the lesser of 2 evils, but for a 3rd choice, one usually ends up with the greater of 2 evils. Not a good outcome.


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Gravatar Perhaps the gravity of the situation we collectively face would suggest a level of discourse which rises above the personal and the partisan.When you are neck deep, your words should be chosen carefully.


Gravatar How on earth is the cabal going to control the United States? 6 Years in Iraq along with 50% of our budget and they don't have control of the road to the Airport outside of Bagdhad. There are 60 major airports in the United States.

On any given Saturday in the fall of the year there are no less than 200 college football games in progress with 24,000,000 Americans in attendance. I suppose these folks are going to roll over their constitutional freedoms just because Dick Cheney says so? Will they just call the games off and quietly walk to the nearest internment camp?

I feel it is counterproductive to announce that we need to prepare to establish a martial law underground when there are 51,000,000 Americans who own guns and are fully aware of their constitutional rights. I remind you that many of these folks are retired military and know how to use a gun.

I feel it is waste of energy to frighten readers with the thought that we, America in 2007, are similar to Poland in the 70's. Poland has a population of 38 million on 120,000 square miles. Lech Walesa had no guns and no constitution. He was also leading a group of people who had nothing but a general concept of civil liberties. Walesa was also faced with the combined might of the Warsaw pact. A military force that outnumnbered NATO forces in the region by 200 to one.

There is absolutely no method to gain control of the 3.5 million square miles that make up the contiguous United states....none. Are you going to assume that 100% of the US armed forces would fire on their neighbors and families? Small groups of poorly trained and thoroughly unmotivated local police are going to round up entire towns where they are outnumbered 400 to one?

There is already a mutiny at the highest levels of our military. Stop pretending it is a 1930's socialist uprising and remain confident that the cabal will screw this up as badly as they have botched the rest of their blind stabs at world domination.


Gravatar Well I'm sorry, tstorey, but you haven't convinced me of anything so far. In particular don't understand how a discussion about resisting martial law could possibly be counterproductive.

Personally I hope that it would prove to be unnecessary. But here's the thing: the more we talk about such things as false flag terror and martial law, the greater chance that they will prove to be unnecessary.

In other words, there's nothing wrong with being prepared.

Prepared for what? We don't know.

And that's the problem.

Americans in general know nothing about political resistance; we are the fattest most ignorant lab rats ever grown, constitution or no, guns or no.

In any so-called "developing" country, if stuff went on like what's gone on here lately, the streets would be FULL of people and they would not go home until "the cabal" (to use your term) was over and done with.

But no! We've gone to football games instead. Or else we've sat on our big fat asses for all these years and watched our "constitutionally protected rights" eaten away, one big gulp at a time. At least we understand big gulps.

Please note that in this regard, our 51 million gun owners haven't helped us one little bit. Some of them may know their constitutional rights and others may not; some of them may be ex-military while others are clearly not, and lots of them obviously know how to use a gun, but seriously: other than a huge domestic homicide rate, what have all these guns given us?

The constitution is already shredded, or more accurately it has proven to be worthless in a political environment where one faction controls the White House, the Congress and the Supreme Court, and (perhaps more importantly) where all three are entirely adverse to the application of what we used to call "checks and balances".

This is a unique moment in American history, a unique moment in world history as well. None of us even knows what's up, let alone what's to come. I am explicitly not pretending that this is a 1930s socialist uprising and I'm not pretending this is 1980s Poland either. (It's just one straw man after another, isn't it?)

You haven't inspired any confidence so far, but I would love to know more about the "mutiny at the highest levels of our military", so if you really want to inspire some confidence, tell me how the military is going to save us, ok?

Thanks very much.


Gravatar Already did. Minot to Barksdale B-52.

With extensive research, you will find that the removal from storage (Minot AFB)and the transport of nuclear weapons to (Barksdale AFB) involves presidential involvement. For nuclear tipped missiles to be mounted into launch position on a combat platform (B-52) the D.O.D custody regulations require a signature from the White house.

Media reports said it was a series of unfortunate "mistakes."

Research reveals the impossibility of five different two to four star generals signing off on a mistaken shipment of 50 kiloton+ stealth cruise missiles.

The "event" is one issue that has been widely discussed. The ONLY important issue that came out of the fiasco is this, The Military Times is run by Gannett. I am old so I know some big shots in the newspaper business. It is a violation of a litany of national security regulations to release a story involving "treaty regulated" transport of nuclear weapons. It is NOT done. The first publication to carry the report was the Military Times, from there it spread to the wire services. THIS IS NEVER DONE. This was a private "family matter" that would be released years from now.

The flight officer at Minot AFB knew he had just released a flight with live nukes. The flight officer at Barksdale AFB knew he was in receipt of a flight live nukes. What happened next?

A two star general responsible for the AF region got a phone call. This "general" arranged for two "unnamed" officers to "report" the incident to Gannett and we are off to the races.

Keep in mind the next step. The Military Times cannot print ANYTHING without it being vetted by an officer. Either a full colonel or a brigadier. With a review of this post you will find that no fewer than four generals were involved in the order to get the missiles mounted on the B52 and no fewer than three in ANNOUNCING the event to the world.

This is mutiny. This is brass against brass. The senior officer who vetted the story for release knew he was "covered" by still higher ups....Winter patriot, the Military Times, a division of Gannett media group, was ORDERED to release the story of the B-52 Nukes. Somebody from Washington DC with many stars gave that order. Somebody with so much juice that they knew they would survive.

The cabal is not popular with the US military. I will suggest that this is hope and that hope is good. The US military are what stand between us and martial law. Every officer signs his commission with the statement to uphold the US constitution. What if most of them do?




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