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all muslims there expect to see mee and lots of very very angry people chained up to the gates
i mean honestly, if muslims wana come into this country and live a "normal" life then dont treat them with more cause than us!! if they get a muslim only day i want a british only day ONLY, were beer is free, evryones drunk n only fish n chips is sold, how bout that? no i didnt think so
what i want is a christian only day,no one else
I completely agree with the last 2 comments. Although I spose it beats giving them a house.
i dont wish to leave any details but i do think that some people are not being fair to the muslims why is it that people are so nasty towards them, i have to say there is good and bad in every colour whether you are white, black, asian, or scottish or irish but at the end of the day we are all human and we all bleed red blood but so many people have terned agaisnt muslims and to me it is so unfair as most of them were born in this country and desreve to be here just like white people
Sorry but im against this totally so why should some people who are hardly british come and run our theme parks
sorry but most of the muslims in this countty are brittish they where born here just like the rest of the briitsh people who live here and they have as much rights as every one else in this country
unknown, it's not really about muslims is it? This is about the society we live in where it is acceptable to discriminate against the majority of the population in order to pander to the minority but it is unthinkable to do the reverse. What you have to ask yourself is what would have happened if Alton Towers had decided to have a Christian-only day. It's inconceivable that this would ever happen yet they see no problem with holding a muslim-only day justifying it by saying that reinforcing the belief that muslims are different will help them integrate into society.
I'm sorry, I have nothing against muslims - I have muslim friends and colleagues and I get on well with them all - but there is a real problem here. This is racial discrimination, plain and simple, but because it's not against a minority it isn't treated as such. I'm still waiting for the CRE to tell me what they're doing about a book writing competition that was only open to non-whites - I complained about it nearly a year ago along with a lot of other people but nothing has been done about it. If it was a white-only competition it would have been denounced as racist and the authorities would have come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Well how does having a muslim only day help them intergrate into this society? It doesn't if they are British they are British their religion has nothing to do with anything. All this does is breed more resentment towards them and is fucking idiotic if you ask me. I totally agree they come here to this country and want things changing to accomdate their religion. If they don't like it go back to asia to an islamic state and see how long they last under islamic law.
I wonder if the BNP approached alton towers whether they would be granted sole acces for the day???? Or as some have suggested an all Christian, Jewish etc day?? This is reverse racialism. They can do what they like and because they all feel oppressed and feel as though the world owes them a living,we and our supid european laws can do nothing about it. England have the BALLS to stand up and say ' stupid request --go away and intergrate properly' eg speak english so that we can understand it would be a good start!!
Please also bear in mind that those poor oppressed ones who feel the need to sponge off the state ( ie your taxes) will probably get given tickets and free transport and food....paid for by your last tax deduction. Please can we all get together at some stage and either protest until the cows come home about stupid euro laws and all the idiotic 'do-gooders'around or start our own political party and encourage what we actually all think but dont say to happen?? No because we are WEAK and led by WEAK idiots and live in fear of upsetting anyone with a dodgy skin colour or belief.
i haveto say that there is a lot of white people out there who sponge of the state and do not work and get every think paid for so why are you knocking the muslims saying that they are lazy i have a lot of muslims freinds who work dam hard for the money they get and have paid for every think they own im sorry but you cant just say that muslims are idle and live of the state as that is wrong of people to think that of all muslims, what type of world to we live in here some times i am appalled to say i am white and some times i am a shamed of my colour i am in a mixed race relationship and i gte people look at me as if i shuld be with a white man and i think why shud have to go with white men i dont think colour has any think to do with it we shud live and let live and most of the muslims can speak excellent english why cant we have peace in the world
whats the point?
lets get all the muslims together so they can be with the british people!
the women in their religion wont be able to go on the coatsers or they will be condemned and stoned to death....
good idea by alton towers because it will be a no flies day for the rest of the country because they will be swarming round their filthy muslim scum heads well done alton towers
british muslims what a fucking joke they are still filthy scum lets get them out now !!!!!!!
This is not for Muslims only - non-Muslims can attend but will have to adhere to certain restrictions.
And so what if a private organisation hires out a service to another organisation? That's what's happened here. If the Girl Guides hired out Alton Towers would there be such a furore - of course not.
And every other day is a non-Muslim day, with as much beer as you can drink, just before you do a moonie off the rollercoaster.
Oh, and Muslims can be white as well, you know - it's a religion, not a race or colour.
Christ, there's some fucking dimwits in this country.
redavenger sucks muslim cock fuckin do gooder
Yea, well done.
Now, crawl back under your stone and remember not to procreate - we need fewer people like you.
no redavenger cock sucker we need more like me not limp cunts like you enjoy your day at the towers with your raghead scum friends you are a vile creation of our society with a small cock
this is to the person who is writting anonymous we dont need people like you at all in this world as its stupid idiots like you that are causing all the hatred in the world and if you ask me your the vile creation not the muslims your a disgrace to white people you are have you never heard of giving people a chance in life there is good and bad people in every colour and race and i have to say that you are on of he bad people in life
very sorry for my comments i didnt realise you were a born again christian cock sucker who lives with his mother, do gooder cunts like you can leave this country with the rest of the fucking scum and make bombs together,hey i'll even buy you a rucksack you cunt get out
sorry but im no cocker sucker who lives with my mum i am a women who live alone and has her own independant so if you can be wrong about me then you can wrong about others a well and i am well offended by u call me a cunt who do u think you are may be u shud leave the country you waste of fucking space you are such a PRAT
i dont see wot the big issue is, if you want a christian day fucking have 1!And stop letting out all your dihorea
I am so sick off the Poor muslims this and that... They get a fuck load of stuff of the state. Where i live they live in the innner city and the local council has just renovated their houses... I am so pissed off with them... We are getting shafted up the arse by them.
Why do muslims need a day to intergrate..All the other faiths have done this with no problems its just them
they do not want to intergrate with a western society. If they do not like our
society well they can go back to where ever they came from. If they hate this country so much why stay here. I will tell you why its because of benefits, free health care i know loads of taxi drivers that are on a decent wage and tell the local dss that they are on a low wage so that they can claim benefits..I am so annoyed with our goverment that they dont do anything to slow down or stop the migration to our country.. Enoch powell was right when he said his rivers of blood speech but the powers that be took him out of power. He knew their way of life {he lived there for 7 years}He said if you let one you will be letting their entire family in and so on and now with have the situation what we have today.. WE ARE ALWAYS BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO PLEASE THEM WHAT ABOUT OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS?????
Enoch Powell said the following comment:Here is the means of showing that the immigrant communities can organise to consolidate their members, to agitate and campaign against their fellow citizens, and to overawe and dominate the rest with the legal weapons which the ignorant and the ill-informed have provided.This is from the rivers of blood speech. The speech was followed by strikes, in particular in London's docklands, both in support and in opposition. Powell gained considerable support from the public, receiving over 43,000 letters and 700 telegrams, which overloaded Wolverhampton's postal system. Only 4 telegrams and 800 letters expressed a form of hostility to him or his message.
Anonymous wrote:
"no redavenger cock sucker we need more like me not limp cunts like you enjoy your day at the towers with your raghead scum friends you are a vile creation of our society with a small cock"
Awww, bless your little cotton socks!
So, you're what, about 12, 13 years old?
Dearie me - so full of inarticulate rage and hatred for people you don't even know - still, there's always the internet for you to hide behind - and it has porn as well, so you can fulfill your true destiny as a right wanker, sinking ever lower into your pit of inadequacy and self loathing until one day you implode and leave nothing but a putrid stain on the walls.
I hope that you get all you deserve from life - tata!
Stop the personal insults please.
every one is making such as fuss ver the muslim day well i read in the paper yesterd that alton towers are alowinf=g the nudist to have a day at alton towers as well are you all going to make a big fuss of this as well i bet you dont !!!!!!! it is all to do with muslims that your all moaning about you shud all get a life and try and get on with every one
This is so shite..where is the WHITES ONLY day?? it's still our Fucking Country aint it?
why the fuck,
i want a white only day but no thats racist fuck you.
only good thing to some out of it is if someone drops a bomb on the fuckers
Let's have a Christians only day then, And then let's see the Muslims moan that it's rascist, If they want to integrate, they can integrate with Christians, As Most of Britain is Christian. We arn't discriminating against them, so they can't use that bullshit against us.
I'm dissappointed with Alton Towers, They sure as hell wouldn't let the BNP Privatly hire the park for a day would they??.
why is it the only answer that you all have it about bombing im sorry but you are all evil and nasty to the muslims when half of them have done no wrog just tryed to gte on with there lives for christ sake leave them all alone
I haven't had to censor comment on my blog yet so don't make me do it now. Please keep it civil and objective.
WTF????
The UK is a fucked up place people. Quit takin heed of what the wankers at SKY an CNN r doin. Welcome to the beginning of a new era for this world. The Human Race is not too far away from wiping itself out. How many of you white trash rascists have had treatment from an Asian Doctor? How many of your Families have had the same? Were you grateful? or was he or she just some fuckin dumb paki?
Don't Be a Lemming -You have a choice
Civil and objective applies to both sides of the argument.
I swear down I am disgraced by the amount of hatred that’s put towards the Muslims! I am not to surprise that they feel they need to have a fun day like this to get away from all the racial hatred that has been going on. And I don’t get it why do people look at Muslims as being just Asian and one colour!! I know some Muslims who are white and who’s parents are white but have converted to Islam and Britain is the only country they known and if some people think Muslim should leave the country then where are people like these suppose to go, and haven’t people got the right to be what they want, believe in what they want in piece rather then to be bullied and picked on because of their beliefs I mean isn’t this what Britain teaches us! I’m sorry but the way people have been reacting over this whole thing is shameful I mean if everyone really accepted these Muslims and involved them more in this society then they would have not have had a problem with this fun day. And if someone does want to book a fun day for Christians then by all means do so I am sure no one else would have a problem with this. And I don’t believe Britain is a white only place! I mean would u also be kicking out the people who you kidnapped from their own countries so that they could be slaves in yours are u suppose to send these back who didn’t come here out of choice! (black people ring bells) and yes i am aware this was more of an issue in America but if you look back in history it also happened in Britain! I believe this is gods land and the only one that can say get out is the one who owes it!! Only if everyone just accepted each other and just got on with their own thing rather then poking their noises about, this world would be such a brilliant place to live in!! Because of stupid idiots I have to suffer!!! Life is short so stop stressing over things that got nothing to do with you and enjoy every bit of it!!! That’s why I let things be and just get on with my own life because every moment spent you cant get it back so if I am going to sit and stress about what the Muslims are doing then I may as well sit and watch the news 24/7 and start writing a journal on every little thing they are doing wouldn’t that just be wonderful! So in other words people should just concentrate on their own lives rather then stressing over other peoples lives I am sure people have more to do then stress over this because I am sure we have other things to stress about such as bills, work etc and there defiantly isn’t a point of putting another little stress such as this to our depressive society which is filled with depression, and suicides I am not to surprised of this either!!!
Rixy, this is about Alton Towers having a muslim only day. It's not about the slave trade or whether muslims are on the receiving end of racism. I'm white and I'm on the receiving end of discrimination - I can't go to Alton Towers on that day if I want to because I'm not a muslim.
ok..well here I go.. I'm gonna risk putting up my own Muslim opinion, said from a Muslim perspective.. I've got nothing to hide and I hope I'm not gonna be booed out of here cos I'm a Muslim..but here it goes!!
Right. Let me tell you something about the Muslim community, especially the older generation. Post 9/11, a lot of them are very scared of going out, especially to places where they may be stared at or treated badly because of the way they are dressed... they feel intimidated by the general British public but don't realise what they're missing out on. They'd never go to a theme park ordinarily because
a) they don't want abuse thrown at them because they cover their faces, look different etc
b) they don't want to be in a place packed with half-naked people as this goes agains their own ideals and principles
c) they dont want to go somewhere non-islamic with lots of music, alcohol, gambling etc.
This muslim only day is providing them with the opportunity to check it out, without these fears, and once they see what the world has to offer, maybe they wont feel so scared and can integrate easily.
What's the big deal?? No one complains when rich people hire the park out for a party, and only people on the guest list can attend! These people will be paying good money for this, just like everyone... so it's a private party.. so? It happens all the time.. people hire the park exclusively all the time. No one makes a big deal then!
I'm really looking forward to going.. I go to theme parks anyway, but when I go, I do feel uncomfortable about all the topless guys, the girls in bikini tops, the occasionally girls who decide to flash the cameras when on the rides.. the way I get stared at cos I cover my hair.. the way I can't eat much cos it's not halal. So yeah, I'm excited about going without having to worry about all this.
For God's sake, it's only ONE day out of many. Please get over it and don't be so mean towards us!
I'm sure if some church did a Chirstian only day, no one would care. As for the ignorant comment about 'whites only'... Muslims arent just Asians.. there are plenty of very English people amongst us. Wake up and smell the coffee!
hi hanna you go fot it hun i am white and i been in a relationship with my muslim partner for over 5 years and me and him get stared at and i am all for this muslim only day where you can all go out and ave fun for he day and enjoy yourself, we dont go to many places together due t0 getting started at so i hope you enjoy your day at alton towers and have thefun you all desreve where u can rwlax with out being stared at and made to feel uncomftable, you go and have the day and enjoy your food. I hope that alton towers will do many more days like this but not only for muslims but what ever faith you are they shoud do it
Hanna, let me address your points:
a) they don't want abuse thrown at them because they cover their faces, look different etc
How often does this actually happen? I really have never heard a muslim being abused because of their looks or for any other reason. I accept that it happens but I don't think it's as big a problem as it's made out to be.
b) they don't want to be in a place packed with half-naked people as this goes agains their own ideals and principles
To be blunt, this is England and that's acceptable here. If you're offended by a bit of flesh then maybe you should think about going somewhere where it doesn't happen? I'm not saying this in a nasty way, I'm just being honest.
c) they dont want to go somewhere non-islamic with lots of music, alcohol, gambling etc.
Again, this is England and we aren't a muslim country. Music, gambling and alcohol are part of our way of life.
This muslim only day is providing them with the opportunity to check it out, without these fears, and once they see what the world has to offer, maybe they wont feel so scared and can integrate easily.
Or they might expect it to happen more often and at other places. Isolating a minority from the majority doesn't help integration.
What's the big deal?? No one complains when rich people hire the park out for a party, and only people on the guest list can attend!
The guest list isn't restricted on grounds of race or religion.
I'm sure if some church did a Chirstian only day, no one would care.
Probably not but this is a christian country and christians don't have to integrate with society, they *are* society - even atheists and agnostics still live by christian values (many of which are also Jewish, muslim, sikh, etc. values too) because that's our way of life.
Muslims arent just Asians
Correct but the majority are and white English muslims are already integrated into society.
unknown, you're obviously going to the wrong places if you're getting stared at for having a muslim partner. It's getting quite a common thing, even I don't see anything unusual in it and I was brought up in rural Shropshire and didn't meet my first Asian until I had left college!
hey.. well, firstly - I said what I had to say being a Muslim in this country - so I thought you would have appreciated the insight.
"ME: a) they don't want abuse thrown at them because they cover their faces, look different etc
WONKO'S REPLY: How often does this actually happen? I really have never heard a muslim being abused because of their looks or for any other reason. I accept that it happens but I don't think it's as big a problem as it's made out to be."
MY REPLY TO THAT: How would you even know, Wonko? Not many people hear about this as it's not something the old aunties who can barely speak English like to relay, but let me tell you - two weeks ago, I got punched, told I was a "terrorist bitch" and then had my phone stolen. About three months ago I got attacked on the tube for the same reason. I've been spat at. I've been jeered at. I've had all the comments, "bin laden's wife, terrorist, paki etc" (note: I'm actually half English, half Arab.) So please, PLEASE don't water down the fact that looking like a Muslim means you get trouble, because you do. And I'm speaking from experience.. If I went on to tell you experiences of people I know, we'd be here all day so I won't bore you. I've made my point.
ME: b) they don't want to be in a place packed with half-naked people as this goes agains their own ideals and principles
WONKO'S REPLY: To be blunt, this is England and that's acceptable here. If you're offended by a bit of flesh then maybe you should think about going somewhere where it doesn't happen? I'm not saying this in a nasty way, I'm just being honest."
MY REPLY TO WONKO: I know that's the way here.. no one's complaining, no one's disputing it.. I'm just saying it's difficult for people who are uncomfortable about it - therefore they welcome opportunities where it doesn't happen. Let me tell you what happened when I went somewhere it ISNT like that. My dad's from the Emirates, so I spend a lot of time there. I went to the famous water theme park by Jumeirah Beach in Dubai.. and obviously there were loads of people dressed like me. What happened? An American guy came up to me and muttered "why are you covered up, bitch? I wanna see your ass." He then proceeded to grope me. So we can't even dress like that in our OWN countries without problems from non-Muslims.
Me: What's the big deal?? No one complains when rich people hire the park out for a party, and only people on the guest list can attend!
Wonko's reply: The guest list isn't restricted on grounds of race or religion.
My reply to wonko: Neither is the guest list on the 17th September. I don't know if you did your research, but non-Muslims are welcome to attend - so long as they respect the rules of the day. So who's being prejudiced? All it means is that for once, the roles are slightly reversed. Usually, Alton Towers is full of non-Muslims with the Muslims as a minority, this time, it's the other way round. No where does it say that non-Muslims can't attend - they'll just have to purchase tickets from the Islamic organisation in charge, like the Muslims. That's it. Where's the prejudice???
Me: I'm sure if some church did a Christian only day, no one would care.
Wonko's reply: Probably not but this is a christian country and christians don't have to integrate with society, they *are* society - even atheists and agnostics still live by christian values (many of which are also Jewish, muslim, sikh, etc. values too) because that's our way of life.
My reply to Wonko: Please. This is a Christian country in name only... you know that as well as I do. Rarely do people go back to their Christian roots, aside from Christmas, Easter EGGS (completely ignoring lent of course) and the occasional christening.
ME: This muslim only day is providing them with the opportunity to check it out, without these fears, and once they see what the world has to offer, maybe they wont feel so scared and can integrate easily.
WONKO: Or they might expect it to happen more often and at other places. Isolating a minority from the majority doesn't help integration.
You're right. It might not work at all. So let's try it and find out, shall we?
I've enjoyed debating with you.
Peace Out,
hanna
Yes I am aware that this is not about slave trade of whatever I was just giving my views on the comments which had been previously been made here regarding how so and so should leave the country etc etc I will not go into detail of this as all the comments have been made on this page. However one of my main points I was trying to make was that, we should just all get on and if that’s what the Muslim want then by all means they should go for it rather then people just wasting their time in trying to prevent this and getting all angry over this and comments made by Hanna above should have taken any of your misconception regarding who is allowed to attend that day, and if you want to go them why don’t you book yourself tickets?, as I myself don’t mind going and showing support to my other British citizens and getting a feel of their way of life because that only makes you a stronger as a person and gives a broader understanding of the various cultures and religions in which we are surrounded by. Instead of people taking this as a bad thing why don’t people who are concerned about integration issues etc go an mingle in and show these people that not all British Christian are bad and that they accept them by seeing people like this showing support, wouldn’t that be a good thing and help integration further rather then to sit and cry why not turn the whole thing which people feel is bad into a good thing because that will show Muslims not everyone is the same or bad and not everyone is out to get them the way most of these Muslims feel….because at the end of the day if people prevent this wouldn’t this cause more problems and more hatred and segregation between Muslim community and the British people such as the British Christian and so forth, so why not try and figure out another solution to prevent this by showing your support rather showing your hatred….anyways nite nite peace xxx
This is definitely not right, a workplace to hire AT fair enough but a religious outfit?! Nah it shouldn't be allowed, it's not racist as they, the Musilms, are not a race, it's just a belief system.
Lets have an atheists day, leave all you brainwashed sad beliefs at home, idiots.
We should just turn up, and when refused entry kick up a fuss as we were unaware, demanding free tickets to make up for the wasted travel.
And you have to wonder about the queues in the womans areas (!!!unbelieveable) when they get off the rides, 100's of ninjas trying to find which after ride photo is them.
Maybe we could hire another theme park:
Ozz Fest at the wailing wall?
A pig roat BBQ and hippy rave at the Hajj, you know that big black cube thing that people go to look at.
Come to think of it didn't the apes dance around a big black cube thing in 2001:Space Oddysey? They evolved...
lol @ Stu..the ninja remark was kinda funny I must say. The rest? Ignorant, waffling from an illiterate racist. Yawn.
asefaf
Just to clarify:
The day is for all - it simply states that all requests go through a specific website.
This is not about non-Muslims not being 'allowed' to go - as long as you don't mind the non-pork/non-alcoholic drinks/no music - but how many of you can actually have fun without it???
I have Muslim and Non-Muslim friend with varying opinions - its the Non-Muslims who actually want to go more than the Muslims cos they're fed up with the drink culture goin on anyway!
This is not about Muslims taking over - many are born here and the religion is the fastest growing one on earth.
Alton Towers was hired privately - all have this right whether you are Christian/Jewish/Athiest or whatever - so stop moaning and get hiring yourselves if you have a problem with it!
Non-Muslims go to predominantly Muslim countries and don't live like Muslims. Look at the beaches/alcohol/pubs abd bars/call girls in places like Saudi/Dubai etc. Do all you who are against go abroad and live like locals??? I think not! Take a look at Spain - you can't even do it there - you have your own fish & chip bars, you own English areas, your own hair dressers....give it a rest and let peopl live how they want to live!
i jus think that we should all try and be civilised
well i think its wrong if muslims have a muslim day at a famous british attraction where people go to have fun, fair enough i dont care whos there but i jus dont want to be stopped from doin things in my own country
i have nothin against muslims my boyfriend is muslim jus i think they come to this country to have a better life so if they respect us we will respect them
and people should stop stereotyping not all muslims are the same and people who say they are british muslims yeah u might be but ur mom and dad or grandparents would have come from somewhere abroad and they come to this country tto give there family a better life so if it wasnt for this country u wouldnt hav the life u have now
always treat others as u would like them to treat u
IN MY OPINION IF MUSLIMS COME INTO OUR COUNTRY THEY OBIDE BY OUR RULES. CAUSE I KNOW IF WE WENT INTO THERE COUNTRY WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THE SAME. THEY ARE CAUSING THE RACIAL HATRED IF YOU ASK ME!
Clealry u havent read the previous posts emma... non-muslims go to muslim countries all the time and DONT abide by their rule. Since when is Alton Towers synonymous with Britain?? Muslims are abiding but British rules all the time.. who's saying they're not? This is about hiring out a venue for a big party.. the people doing the hiring can choose the rules, that's it. You know what? I'm tired of arguing with you ignorant people.
shame to all u fukin jelus prats out der hu cant evan tke da fact dat us muslims made da step first to hire out alton towers!! us muslims du av a fast nd cleva brain den u jelus twats!!!! newayz its not a muslims day onli if u gt ur facts ryt ull knw by now dat its a day where derl b no alcohol, no pork shit, no gambling nd no fukin crap music ov urss!
u gets meh!!
nd by ad way y u plonkerz keep sayin dat its racist ow da fuk is it u twatz! its jst a religious day aswel as a fun day 4 ne 1 as wel as da whole muslimz community! its gna b bre jkes 4 all ma bruvaz nd sistaz
oh y nd if wen i go der nd c christianz, sikhs, hindus, jews ect.... im nt gnna giv a damn i mean lyk its gna b a fantastic day 4 all da muslimz nd i ope no muslim is gna react to c ne christianz or sikhs ect.....dwn alton towers special day 4 muslimz cz i knw dat owa religion is ISLAM ND MASHALLAH its a beautiful religion nd da best in da univers wich no oda religion can beat!!!
I have nothing against anyone who wants to come and live in our country and raise a family etc.. Come and enjoy the freedom and other benefits that living in the UK offers but what message is this sending to their kids? You may as well tell them that everyone else is an infidel and that you can't mix with them, good one. I'll be in the queue with my top off, a beer in one hand a bacon sandwich in the other, too fucking right, freedom of speech and choice if you don't like it fuckoff to somewhere else!!
a muslim 4lyf, I don't charge per letter to leave comments, please feel free to use all 26 letters of the alphabet as many times as you like.
I saw on BBC News today that a couple who booked their wedding at Alton Towers 18 months ago have been told they might need to change the date because it clashes with this muslim day. They have been told that they are welcome to go but they won't be able to go on rides together, she will have to cover up and they won't be allowed loud music.
If a muslim wedding had been booked there (at a cost of £10k by the way) and they were told that they would have to go on rides together, the bride wasn't allowed to cover herself up and loud music would be played throughout, would that be acceptable?
Wix, don't post here again. There was no need for what you said.
This is out of order, all the things the English people cant do in our own country nomore! I should be able to go anywhere in my country however I like and not get turned away! I cant believe it, they take the piss. If they dont like our lifestyle or didnt want to mix in with us, or if they recieve racial hatred then they should F*CK OFF to their own country, to put it blunt!, this is England, people wont change!And Im also proud of by beliefs
Also dont they realise this is going to cause trouble on the day, outside the park!
oh for petes sake there is no need to get ur nickers in a paddy...its just one damn day...i dont think anyone would care if there is 'white day' take teh inititive of organising and go for it....bte previously Alton Towers was hired out for just BT employees and their friends and family...you didnt see the other telephonecompanies ie NTL in protest
Anonymous, as I said previously - corporate functions don't exclude people based on race or religion, just employer. If BT hired out Alton Towers for only Muslim employees there would be a similar objection.
like we keep saying, it's not exlusively for muslims! bloody hell, what part of that dont u understand? everyone's welcome, it's just hired out by a muslim company.
i agree with the wedding thing..that's not right. if that was the case, alton towers should have told the company to book for another day - how are they supposed to know? now that they've paid 150,000 for it, there's no turning back is there?
why is is ok when corporate companies hire it, with only people on the guest list allowed? it's discrimination against all non-BT staff according to u! use ur brains man, and dont be stupid.
gaydar have hired it out and no kids are allowed... is that discrimination as well?? u dont hear anyone making a fuss about that!
Let's get a few things straight. It has been reported that anyone can attend as long as they abide by the rules of the day which means women have to cover up, mixed sex rides are out, halal food is the only thing available and there will be no music. Muslims schoolkids have took this government to the High Court because they have been told what to wear - against their human rights - well it's my human right to wear what I want - especially in my own country. The fact of the matter is that this country is a mixed sex, mixed culture country. I'm not coming out in support of Muslims - this is wrong - you wanted it multi-cultural - well here it is! We should ALL be allowed to go to Alton Towers or anywhere else as a public venue when a) it is open for business and b) when we have paid the required ticket price. I think they are taking civilisation right back to the days when blacks had to sit at the back of the bus. Racism - if you want the root cause look at what the minorities are doing to tackle it. They abuse western civilisation and its people although they frequently take full advantage of its benefits and laws to their own ends. They continuously segregate themselves voluntarily but complain when we do the same. They come out in support of terror attacks and perpetuate their differences by teaching their kids different values and telling them that non-Muslims aren't as good as they. It's about time this country got its priorities right and stopped this. This is England. Here we have English beliefs, laws and values and these should be respected above all. If I had my way I would ban ALL religion as I find it deeply offensive that a group is allowed to persecute others because they don't believe the same things. We all believed in Santa and the Tooh Fairy once but grew out of it. I am an Atheist (I was a Christian until I was 8 and then realised that it was ludicrous)and have in the past been called vile names by religious types because I don't believe in a god despite the fact that I a) don't eat meat or mistreat animals in any way b) do more work for charity than almost anyone else I know c) try and tolerate others as long as they do right by me d) don't fiddle with little kids which some religious people do ALL THE TIME and e) don't start wars. You show me a group of atheists and I'll show you a group of upstanding and considerate citizens who do right by their old folks and take an interest in what is going on around them. I hope there is a massive protest outside Alton Towers on "Muslim Day". I do believe we are still allowed to protest? They did when the Mohammed cartoons came out. Maybe a few placards with "Death to all Muslims" would be appropriate - although being a non-muslim you might get arrested immediately which just goes to show how out of whack this whole situation is. By the way - I live in Leicester. You can't get more multi-cultural than that. We get violence between cultures here sometimes but to be honest it goes both ways baby!
In addition to my last comments - I have just looked at Islamic Leisure's website and they are advertising the event as the 1st Islamic Fun Day. Looks like Hanna's comments about them just trying it out were misguided. This may be the first of many and we may have the prospect of a future where everything will at some point be exclusively for Muslims. Asking for trouble. I personally don't care. Alton Towers is crap.
yeah - 1st. But it could be the last. Like I said, we won't know until it's tried and tested, and after all this drama, it probably won't happen again so you'd be happy then, wouldn't you?
The schoolkids suing them is a load of crap - there hasn't been any mention of how to dress etc. BUT, yeah, it does say that the day will be according to Islamic ways - so if those kids don't like it, they should go on a different day! It's no infringement of human rights - no one's put a gun to your head and told you to attend.
It's like having a School Dance Party.. people can only go if they purchase a ticket and have to dress like a school kid - if you dont like ddressing that way, DONT GO! Jeez. How hard is that to understand???
Surely people have better things to worry about then this? It's not about disrespecting British law - it's about living according to British law while continuing practising your faith -which is what i do every single day, and I'm fine with it. The people hiring out the park have a right to say what rules they want on the day - they're paying enough money for it and the demand is there.
You're acting like they're demanding that Alton Towers is changed forever to suit Muslims - they're not. They've hired the park, the want some rules - if you don't like the rules, don't attend. Simple as.
Just like a handful of deranged Muslim terrorists give Islam a bad name, a handful of ignorant yobs and chavs give Britain a bad name.
SORT IT OUT!
I AGREE WITH WHAT UR SAYIN HANNA WELL JUS THIS BIT ABOUT GIVING BAD NAMES YEAH THERE IS ALOT OF STEREOTYPING IN THIS COUNTRY AND OTHER COUNTRYS. TO ME EVERYONE IS THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT COLOUR OR RACE AND WHAT EVA THEY WEAR OR EAT IF GOD MADE EVERYONE THE SAME IT WOULD JUS BE BORING
I THINK THAT ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD RESPECT EACH OTHER NOT THAT THATS EVA GONNA HAPPEN
AND IM GOIN THERE ON THAT DAY AND ILL WEAR WHAT I WANT IM GOIN WITH MY BOYFRIEND (HES MUSLIM)
LETS SEE WHAT KIND OF DICRIMINATION THAT WILL BE AIMED AT ME.
Will somebody go in clothes that aren't acceptable to muslims and when confronted about it say that it is a human right to wear your own clothes and let me know what the outcome is?
SOMEBODY ENLIGHTEN ME!
WHERE IN THE MUSLIM BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT WOMEN HAVE TO COVER UP FROM HEAD TO TOE. I KNOW IT MIGHT BE THERE CHOICE I HAVE BEEN TOLD IT RELIGIOUS IZ IT ?
why dont u go and do it yourself wonko??
mostdays my opinion is we all live under the same roof (the world i mean, not just england) and peace and tolerance is the way forward, we are all the same race and at the end of the day, we should look out for eachother regardless of creed race etc...then i see some thing like this and it makes me think all militant for the rest of the day, lets bomb the cunts for coming over here and trying to take over then lets exterminate them like the vermin they are etc etc...would alton towers let us have a white only day, or a bnp or kkk day? would malls in birmingham ban santa's grotto if it wasnt for muslims? why dont we go to pakistan and see what they do when we ask for a christain only day at their best theme park (although im sure the pair of donkeys would enjoy not being sodomized for the day) a large scale muslim trip to alton towers wouldnt bother me at all, but to ban christains for the day? fuckin outrage.THIS IS BRITAIN AND WERE A CHRISTAIN COUNTRY!
Hanna, I don't want to go. I've never been to Alton Towers and I really have no desire to go.
Tammy, I wish you the best of luck wearing what you want. Go in something that isn't acceptable to muslims and tell me what response you get.
How childish...wearing soemthing to ourage the muslims...its just soudns like alittle kid trying rebel aginst its parents.
u calling this country a christian country? well it may be but just in name most people living here are atheist...
so your teling me all the muslims in the nightclubs getting p1ssed chatting up white girls thinking they are hard are following their religion.
they don't listen to music, don't gamble, don't watch pornos or read porno mags and masturbate, load of crap.
they hide behind community of racial equality and do what they want and the police are scared to do anything.
my point exactly not all of us are extremist as most people like to believe when they see a muslim on the steet.
There are some very ignorant people out there like 'anonymous'(why are you anonynous? Too cowardly?), RedAvenger and White Loyalist. Did you poor things never get an education? Awww. You are confused. Let me give you a lesson. Asians and Muslims are two completely different groups, are you a bit muddled up. Guess what, I am WHITE! And I became a Muslim. Yes, you heard right. Or should I say it a bit s-l-o-w-e-r, in case you dont get it? And im so so proud, especially when I hear racist thugs like you who just want to beat people up, im glad im not like you. Are you just jealous because Muslims could afford to PAY to hire Alton Towers and have it to themselves? Why dont you do the same? Oh, sorry, no job? Sponging off the state? Aww, never mind, let the hard-working people hire places they can afford and you go crawl back under your ignorant pit. Some of us understand that Islam means PEACE. The educated ones who understand Islam and the Muslims wouldnt say things like you do. What you are doing is called ignorance, you are still living in the dark ages. I feel so sorry for you. There is such beauty and tolerance in Islam, if you maybe read about it (I doubt that you read books) you may not be so rude. Oh, and the swearing? Its so undignified, why do you stoop so low? If you want to say something, write like an adult. You threaten and abuse Muslims in your emails, is it any wonder I dont want to integrate with people like you? Hah, and you say MUSLIMS are violent? hee hee, thats funny!
Oh, by the way, theres a nudist weekend at Alton Towers in November. so what? They have paid and they can do what they want. Are all the ignorant yobs on here going to complain about that too? Honestly, get a life.
oh wateva get a lyf wil u stop bein childish all ov ya man i mean lyk 4 gods sake ITS ONLI 4 1 DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nd if u dnt knw wat 1 day is its 24 hours nd reli i meanlyk in dat day our speshal muslim day is gna b 4 lyk onli 7/8 hours!!
jst tke a chill pill man!!!
Paul, will you find the nudists day offensive? Also, Islam = peace ... depends on which interpretation you follow doesn't it? Some people are devout muslims and believe they have a duty to kill non-believers. Isn't one of the aims of Islam to convert the world to Islam by whatever means necessary? Doesn't that leave the whole peace/violence thing a bit open-ended?
I'm not ignorant of Islam or any other religion. I don't believe in any religion and that's not because of an ignorance of the facts but because I have decided that I don't believe anything any of the religions preach.
I know that Christianity and Islam are essentially different branches of the same religion. Jesus was a prophet of Allah but he wasn't the son of God in Islam. Islam teaches much the same morals as Christianity and every other religion - cleanliness, hard work, respect for others, etc. These are basic concepts that ensure preservation of the species, hence the same set of values in all religions and even in tribes that have had no contact with civilisation. This is one of the main reasons why I think religion is a load of bollocks - it's nothing to do with God telling people what to do, it's simple preservation of the species in a written form. If you are a leader of people and trying to teach people how to preserve their society and control them at the same time, religion is the best way of doing it.
so wonko if christians were holding a christianity day would you react da same way?
It depends. To put it in the context it would have to be an Orthodox Christian day because then it would be as alien to our own way of life as an Islam day is. If that was the case then yes, I would object as well.
Hanna, as a Muslim and a woman you really don't have a valid opinion as women in Islam are secon class citizens, however, I will respond to your comments.
I wasn't talking about schoolkids going to Alton Towers, I was actually talking about the high profile case in the High Courts about a year ago wherein a muslim schoolgirl - despite being pandered to by her school and them providing an adequate moderate muslim school uniform for her - took the school to court as she wanted to wear full Ninja regalia. She was "encouraged" the whole way by her extremist brother and using taxpayers' money.
Secondly, I don't know how many school dances you have been to (you're probably not allowed out the house these days, eh?) but the last one I went to we definitely didn't dress like school kids!
Oh, and by the way, check out the facts. This "one day only" has now been extended to two days - 17th AND 30th September.
And as for other comments posted by Muslim supporters on this subject - I don't know any chavs and I have a job and an education.
As far as I can see Muslims are the only ones who have so far insisted on trying to change the way Britain is to suit them. I know lots of Hindus and Sikhs who have managed to integrate just fine.
And as for the nudist day at Alton Towers. This is totally unacceptable and any grown ups who parade around little kids should be arrested immediately. You see? We are not all immoral bastards just because we don't believe in a god.
Oh, and Paul Healey? Last I heard`Islam didn't mean peace - it meant killing a few thousand people in New York and 52 people in London. Ring any bells? Only a stupid arse English person would convert to Islam. Cat Stevens was assessed for his mental health when he did it. Twat.
As for some of you saying its racism, may i remind you that Musllim/islam is a religion not a race
Correct, it's not racism - just plain old discrimination.
lol.. a lot's been happening in the few days I decided not to annoy myself by reading these posts..
Thank u "voice of reason" for your insightful post. It was interesting to see your perception of Islam - as incorrect and biased as it may be.
You call yourself educated - maybe you are, according to the secular system, but it's really sad to see that for all your education, you still remain narrow minded and ignorant.
So you're basing Islam on September 11 and 7/7? Right. So let's call all Christians mass-murderers because of what Bush has done to Iraq, Afghanistan.. and what he hopes to do in Iran. While we're at it, every single Jew should have to pay for what's happening in Palestine and now Lebanon. Yeah, and let's not forget the Irish - they should all be made to suffer for what the IRA did...NOT!
Surely you must be smart enough to realise an entire race, nation or religion should not be judged according to the minorities actions?? If you can't see that, your education was clearly a waste of time and effort.
P.S... As for checking out the facts, I just rang Islamic Leisure and they said it's only for the 17th NOT the 30th. So please, take your own advice check the facts out YOURSELF. Loser.
PPS. I love the way you began your post - saying I didn't have a voice as I'm a woman. Clearly, you've misinterpreted facts ONCE AGAIN. Islam is what liberated women in the Arabian peninsula upon its conception.. giving women the same rights in inheritence, respect and being treated as first class citizens. If some dodgy Muslims dont treat women as our Prophet stated, it's because of their own backwards culture NOT the religion. So please, don't sterotype and assume all Muslims are the same - clearly, they're not.
Well its cancelled now, thank fuck. Even the thicko Muslims realised what a shit day out it would have been without proper food, music and gambling.
I accept that Alton Towers as the right to lease it's theme park to any group it wishes, it has a Gay day, and a Nudist day, but I guess, (and I will be told if I am wrong) that anyone can turn up on these days if they want to and enjoy the parks facilities, without having to be Gay or run around naked.
This is where the problem lies, Alton Towers should have told the Muslim organisers that they can book the site, but other visitors will still have access to beer, and be able to ride with their wives, daughters etc on any of the parks rides. This changing of the park for a day to a reilgious group only angers people and goes no way toward any kind of intergration. I feel sorry for the couple who can't enjoy their wedding without the women having to wear headscarfs, or be able to have a glass of Champagne. I thought religion was about tolerance, and understanding, what religious leader can stand there and make someone follow the rules of his religion based on the fact that it is a fun day for muslims only. I wonder what would happen if a group of Muslims had booked a party at Alton Towers only to find it clashed with nudist day, and the nudist's demanded that anyone allowed entry be naked?
We have the power to change Alton Towers policy, not of allowing anyone to book the park, of course do so, but anyone who wishes to go along and intergrate with that group, be it gays, nudists or Muslims, allow them to enjoy they day dressed as they would normally and if they wish have a beer with their fish and chips at lunch time.
Boycott Alton Towers, let them see that we are not happy with their policy.
I think they should have nudist day. Muslim only day will just be a bore.
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