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How can they support the red devils then?
Isn't the devil offensive to Muslims?
I'll stop there.
fdm |
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02.09.06 - 12:42 pm | #
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Well put Wonko.
revinkevin |
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02.09.06 - 9:00 pm | #
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Actually there's evidence to suggest that the St George is older that the Crusades. people have fount document's in scandanavia which have a scandanavian version of the St George, it looks like the swedish flag only red and white. It was for Canute III for when he concured England. Also the English flag, originally flag of Genoa and then adopted by English ships to benefit from the protection of the powerful Geonoese fleet. So two ideas of how the St George came about.
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03.09.06 - 7:44 pm | #
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I am quite sure the Cross of Saint George will continue to be flown in the face of anti English bigots, from the labour government down to some of our Islamic guests, from here to eternity !
People generally are like that, they don't like idiots telling them what to do.
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04.09.06 - 2:17 pm | #
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Taken from Wikipedia St George entry:
"In Islamic cultures, the Prophet or Saint al-Khidr or Khizar; according to the Quran a companion of the Prophet Muwsa Moses, is associated with Jirjis (St.George), who is also venerated under that name by Christians among mainly Muslim people, especially Palestinian people, and mainly around Jerusalem, where according to tradition he lived and often prayed near the Temple Mount, and is venerated as a protector in times of crisis. His main monument is the elongated mosque Qubbat al-Khidr ('The Dome of al-Khidr') which stands isolated from any close neighbors on the northwest corner of the Dome of the Rock terrace in Jerusalem"
Regarding why we should venerate St George, his flag and why is a very good example even in the 21st century:
"George was born to a Christian family during the late 3rd century. His father was from Cappadocia and served as an officer of the army. His mother was from Lydda, Palestine. She returned to her native city as a widow along with her young son, where she provided him with an education.
The youth followed his father's example by joining the army soon after coming of age. He proved to be a good soldier and consequently rose through the military ranks of the time. By his late twenties he had gained the title of Tribunus (Tribune) and then Comes (Count), at which time George was stationed in Nicomedia as a member of the personal guard attached to Roman Emperor Diocletian (reign 284–305).
In 303, Diocletian issued an edict authorising the systematic persecution of Christians across the Empire. His caesar, Galerius, was supposedly responsible for this decision and would continue the persecution during his own reign (305–311). George was ordered to take part in the persecution but instead confessed to being a Christian himself and criticised the imperial decision. An enraged Diocletian ordered the torture of this apparent traitor, and his execution.
After various tortures, George was executed by decapitation before Nicomedia's defensive wall on April 23, 303. The witness of his suffering convinced Empress Alexandra and Athanasius, a pagan priest, to become Christians as well, and so they joined George in martyrdom. His body was returned to Lydda for burial, where Christians soon came to honour him as a martyr."
Doesn't all this mean that he is both venerated by some Muslims and was someone who stood out against religious persecuction?
The Rymer |
04.09.06 - 5:40 pm | #
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Best not to let facts or common sense get in the way of a bit of Islamification though eh? 
wonkotsane |
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04.09.06 - 9:57 pm | #
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Muslims want the whole world to belong to them, a bit like Jews realy.
Crusader |
05.09.06 - 2:21 pm | #
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Wanting to support the England team is a blind, this is another salvo at the infidel (us). So they'd prefer the 3 Lions would they? They'd like Richard the Lionheart's flag? Well, well!
Mary Roe |
05.09.06 - 4:41 pm | #
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Feel free to fuck off off back to Swaziland .
Paul Bell |
06.09.06 - 3:07 pm | #
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delianuova |
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15.12.06 - 4:50 pm | #
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I think those 4 guys don't know their own history. Also if they took a trip to Syria, they will find the cross of St George plastered everywhere. Nothing to do with the England football team.
Paul Johnson |
16.04.07 - 10:30 am | #
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St George is the patron saint of many countries.
wonkotsane |
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18.04.07 - 7:26 am | #
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Like we should be bothered you dont support our flag or teams support pakistan instead
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