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Your article makes my point not yours. Second the $ 1800 dollar # was used by LA RAZA at a debate I was in. You can not find a legitimate study that backs up the illegal immigrants pay enough in taxes to cover the social services. Paul Krugman point is you can not fix the problem unless honest with facts.
Cesar Chavez would not be for a guest work visa program that supplies 10 to 20mm workers with no rights. That is what you are advocating if you support the program.
All I am saying is find the right number of immigrants that need to be here, that does not drive wages down for everyone. Also if they are here, make sure they have rights, healthcare and not living under ground. Also create trade deals that lift wages in places like Mexico, China.... not to exploit the workers and their kids.
) Immigration policy must strengthen the rights of immigrants in the workplace.
• Under current immigration law, immigrant workers compete with their U.S.-born counterparts on an uneven playing field—to the detriment of both groups.
• Because employers threaten undocumented immigrants with deportation, these workers cannot effectively assert their rights in the workplace by, for example, asking for raises, complaining about violations of wage and hour or workplace safety laws, or by supporting union organizing drives.
• As long as this cheaper and more compliant pool of immigrant labor is available, employers are all too willing to take advantage of the situation to keep their labor costs down and are less willing to hire U.S.-born workers if they demand better wages and working conditions.
• U.S.-born workers are left to either accept the same diminished wages and degraded working conditions as immigrants living under threat of deportation or to be shut out of whole industries where employers hire predominantly undocumented immigrants.
When immigrants lack rights in the workplace, labor standards are driven down, and all working people have less opportunity to enter or remain part of the middle class. So a pro-middle-class immigration policy must guarantee immigrants full labor rights and make sure that employers cannot use deportation as a coercive tool in the labor market
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04.14.06 - 7:42 am | #
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I have to agree and disagree. It can go both ways. There will always be strike breakers. For example, when the NFL went on strike, the owners still went out and found strike breakers and paid them less money. The nature of the problem, we let corporations run this country. Even if we were to put the laws into place that still doesn't garantee that will stay here. How are will going to stop them from going over seas or go South of the border to set up shop. We will still be unemployeed.
As for education, I don't know about GA but here in TX, state expenditures on public elementary and secondary education equal the sum of the state's contribution to per pupil expenditures in a school district plus the average per pupil share of state costs on general education administration and support services. The state share to an area's school district budget varies according to the resources available to the district. n general, the fraction of per pupil expenditure paid by the state varies inversely with the property tax collected by the school district. Average per pupil expenditure for each student is found by taking a weighted average of the per pupil expenditure of each school district by the average daily enrollment (ADE) figures reported by school districts to compute a district-wide average share of public schooling costs. The product of the PUMA's average per pupil expenditure and the average fraction for which the state is responsible yields a dollar figure for the state's elementary and secondary costs per pupil. This dollar figure is then allocated to every child, between 6 to 17 years old, who lives in the district and those who are enrolled which indicates "in public school." The state incurs additional costs for general education administration and management that are not part of a school district's per pupil expenditures. Additional education costs are incurred by limited English proficient (LEP) students who are eligible for special education services such as remedial skills and bilingual education programs. There is no satisfactory way to break out bilingual education costs without making gross assumptions about relative school district participation in these state programs. Per pupil expenditures are higher in school districts located in urban areas than in the surrounding school districts, partly reflecting the higher cost of education for LEP pupils. And remember that includes every student. It is hard to tell how many Spanish speaking students a school will have before funds are allocated. Sorry, I never bought into those numbers and are just fear tactics used by FAIR. The problem with groups like FAIR. The problem with think tanks, they are able to pull a con job because they know you will be too busy to look into the issue. Think about it, are you will be able to look into how everything is being funded. No, who has time. Say you make into Congress, will you be reading every bill that is submitted to you, not likely, not po
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I guess I have limit.
Revenues collected by the state that are paid directly by households include those from the gross income tax, sales and use tax, motor vehicle fees, motor vehicle taxes, alcoholic beverage tax, cigarette tax, inheritance/estate transfer tax, business personal property tax, and the realty transfer tax and 25% come from the coporate sector.
As I was saying, with all the information overload provided by think tanks, there is no way one person can read how things are funded. I just gave you Texas, there are 49 other states and the US territories. Each states does its own funding.
It is time for the corporate sector to share the wealth.
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XP,
If you flood the country with second class status workers with no rights how do you win? Why do you think Wal-Mart,Tyson... all want a guest worker program? By the way the latino and African American communties will take the hit harder than they are getting it now.You are doing the work for the multi-national corporations.
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