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you're in all ur right to speak your mind, cause this is your blog and you can do whatever you want in here. but just take a minute to hear the song AND MAYBE you'll like it... for some of us the song is good but not everyone can like the same 
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10.25.06 - 1:28 pm | #
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The cover is HAWT! joke. I enjoyed your rant!
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10.25.06 - 8:38 pm | #
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Thanks, BsMx, but I'll pass it, I've never been fascinated by anything involving her. From what I remember, she sucks at singing live.
Yeah, XO, I enjoyed doing it myself also. You know, at least if you're gonna strip, do it decently. From the capture, I could tell the video was poorly done, they probably just threw a bunch of slvts in a sweaty room and shoot, because she can't get a fair amount of budget. And she's not that hot to begin with. She's skinny and flat-chested, so why bother go naked? Even some of the bitches lying under are kinda fat.
The entire thing is just tacky and cheap, relying only on shock value, aiming at a young, messed-up audience. I started to feel bad that I wasted so much of my precious time talking about this issue.
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10.26.06 - 10:50 am | #
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hey! i really love your blog and i have a suggestion for you .. you should really listen to john mayer's new album .. i know you might think he's too popular or whatever but believe me its incredible and from what ive downloaded from your site i think you would really like it espically the song "slow dancing in a burning room" thanks and keep up the good work!
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i call bullshit on your entire post...because if that cover (or the video for that matter) was put out by Gwen Stefani or Christina Aguilera or Britney Spears you would be declaring it as brilliant (or a step forward for women being able to embrace their sexuality...
i'm all for everyone having an opinion...whether or not i would agree with it...everyone should feel free to speak their mind or their heart or whatever...just be honest...the post you should have made should have said...
"I don't like Marion Raven...i didn't like M2M...and i don't care to listen to her new cd...or this single for that matter...i could care less that she writes her own music...i could care less that people think that this song/album/video are brilliant...i just don't like it...and becuase i had nothing else to blog about today i thought i would remind everyone how much i don't like her"
Marion Raven doesn't put parental advisory stickers on her cds...her record company does...for whatever the reason...Marion Raven doesn't label songs explicit on itunes...Apple does...to not listen to it and give an opinion about it is closed minded (and i support your right to be closed minded...because really what is free speech if everyone can't have an equal voice)...
but really...that's just my opinion...and what is that but a different point of view
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Okay, anonymous, let me make this clear.
I used to like M2M, when I was about 10 or 11. And up to this day I still had two of her songs in my iPod, for guilty pleasures' sake, and I admitted that she did have a couple of decent pop songs.
But let's face it. Do you think one day she just felt the need to shed goody-goody her image and shock her fan base? Do you really think she changed because she simply wanted to? She didn't do this alone. The record company is all behind this for a purpose. To sell more records. A cry for attention. Before, she's only well-known in Norway, Europe and Asia, but now suddenly she's on news of big sites and stuff. Why not release Here I Am first in the US? Why wait til now to release an EP and put out a saucy video?
See, if Gwen Stefani or Christina Aguilera or Britney Spears is naked on a cover of a magazine or cd, I wouldn't call it brilliant. I don't mind female singers showing skin, but there's always this invisible line not to cross and a good reason to do so. Those female singers you mentioned, they all have that kind of sexual appeal in the first place, so if they did that, it's a natural step up.
But what really pissed me off is the fact that she compromised to the media and sold out just for commercial purpose. If she wants to be different, there's plenty of ways to choose. Why not turn indie and release a stop-motion video? Why must she choose the sex route? Because sex sells. She knows it, and she makes use of it well.
I might be a bit ignorant when I refuse to listen to the song, but don't blame me because it's the backlash effects of the promotion itself. I still don't feel the urge to listen to it, so yeah I'm stubborn, but that's my opinion. Take it or leave it. End of discussion.
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10.27.06 - 1:16 pm | #
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the reason that american record companies don't release her cd as a whole rather than as an EP is because she doesn't have a track record as an artist...even in M2M she had one minor hit with radio play and some MTV play and that was it...most import acts in the states wind up buried by their label when they try to release product in america...look at pop acts like Busted, Atomic Kitten, Sugababes, Robbie Williams (the biggest solo act in the world and all but ignored in America)...the list is endless...the ONLY reason that this EP is being released in America at all is because she is on Meat Loaf's new single and is touring with him as his opening act...without that exposure she would not have this EP or the record itself released at all in the states...it's a fact of foolish record company economics...
you are meerly speculating about why she choose the direction that she did...and yet when Christina and Britney did the exact same thing after their first records came out did you feel the same way?...what you are accusing Marion Raven of is the same as the transformation from Genie In A Bottle to Dirrty...there is no difference at all...was that simply done for shock value?...did you simply dismiss it based on her selling out her sexuality?...did you decide that it was the record company pushing her in that direction?...it's the same thing...and as for the invisble line not to cross...that is a line that you have drawn...everyone has a different line...there are people who thought Elvis was too sexy when he shook his hips...people who thought Demi Moore posing pregnant and nude on the cover of Vanity Fair was too much...people who think that any sexuality is too much sexuality...the line shifts and blurs for everyone...your line is drawn in the sand for you...which is expressed in your opinion
i know that the person that i was at 16 is not the same person that i was at 22...my tastes were different...the way i viewed the world was different...and i grew into an understanding of myself...my views of the world...and my own sexuality...have you not changed at all since hearing that first M2M single?...are you the same person that you were then?...wouldn't it be a shame for you as a person to not be allowed to grow and change?...because that is basically what you are saying about Marion Raven...that she should not be allowed to grow as a person and explore all parts of her being...
your opinion is that the singers i mentioned in the first post already had that underlying sexuality...that it is a natural step for them...but you would cut down someone else for the same thing (only difference being that you don't buy into her sexuality as you were willing to buy into the others)...by that theory it would be the same for Justin Timberlake who had no sexuality in the MMC and the begining of NSYNC and yet now is brining Sexy Back...is Liz Phair selling herself out because she decided to put her overt sexuality (especially on her first coup
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I agree with you...i was eager to see what she came up with after leaving M2M....and need i say i ways dissapointed? i was.
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Okay, anonymous, whoever you are.
To sum it up, let's put it this way. You're on team Pro-Marion, and I'm on team Anti-Marion. We were both trying to convince each other into the other's point of view while maintaning our own opinions. In the end, it's all about expressing what we feel is right, and I still respect you whether you agree with me or not, and that you spent so much time to weigh in your comments on this matter.
I'm really busy these days, and everyday I still have to check out about 20 new songs I download. So sometimes I have to be picky and choose what's worth listening to. There's plenty of acts there making great music quietly, prolifically without a gimmick to boot.
So all I'm trying to say is that it's her image makeover that blocks me from giving her credits and checking out her new stuff. It's okay, because I don't feel like missing much, and even if I happened to listen and like it, there's always that stain in the way, and you can't take a song seriously if you don't feel respect for the artist.
I don't devote all of my time to pop music. There are always songs I prefer not to hear. For example, Janet's new album. Take That's comeback single. And I think I'll be just fine.
I might be sounding like a ignorant snob here, but that's just my opinion. People have different tastes, so move on.
This is my last reply. I won't get back on this subject.
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10.28.06 - 11:33 am | #
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Actually, this is all Marion's idea and work.
She left Atlantic Records, who signed M2M and her as a solo act (and released "Here I Am" and the two singles) because they both had grossly different ideas of what direction she should take.
She signed to Mottley Crue's small, independent label, and took the songs she'd recorded for "Here I Am" with her.
They aren't interfering in her career at all, unlike Atlantic who forced her to work with Max Martin to create "hit singles." This is all down to Marion now; she has her own new management and team and a distribution deal, and they have got "Heads Will Roll" placement on the "Van Wilder 2" soundtrack, and Desmond Child, who she chose to work with on new songs, introduced her to Meatloaf.
She isn't even signed outside of America, as Mottley Crue's label doesn't exist outside of the USA; she is negotiating individual deals in each country.
It's only the same as Britney coming out as as 17 year old in a schoolgirl outfit, and then posing naked at 24.
If you don't like it, don't listen. Don't buy the songs. It's your choice, but slating her for taking a risk and making the artistic decisions she wanted to is incorrect.
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